Cheers for the vid man. Ive got an elite 2, i play COD about 3-4 hours a day n have taken really good care of it yet its starting to break already. Thumbsticks are starting to tighten up, controllers randomly turns on and off and it just does not feel like the controller i bought. Im going to give the PowerA Fusion a go, looks like itll fit better in my hands 👍
Personally, as someone who only used normal controllers up until about 6 months ago and only plays console, I would say that the elite 2 is the best. It has the best feel in weight, it’s grip feels not great at first, but after hours of play, it feels great, and the battery life is amazing. I’ve played for 2-3 day (of about 5-6 hours) without having to charge it and when I do need to charge it, I just put in in the case at night and it’s fully charged by morning. That being said, I had reacently had a problem with this controller that I’ve never had before in which the controllers started bugging out and there was a buzzing inside. Very disappointed by that, I would still say that IF YOU WILLL USE THE CUSTOMIZATION FEATURES it’s worth the price range. If you just want a goo controller that feels good, I’d still recommend he base controllers.
@@Lisa-oj9oe not for me 😂😂 i don't even throw them or anything man. Controllers last about a month for me. It's such a joke. Microsoft need to start bringing out controllers with good joystick modules that aren't cheap and cause drift stick 🙁
I just wanna say thank you for not having a cheesy, typical intro. You know... the "heeyyyy youtube were back again with another video... etc." Its lame.. Instead you gave quality content and just got into the information we clicked on your video to hear about. I subd immediately and I hope your channel grows as big as you want it to. I know I'll be watching you from now on.
I use the power a on my pc. Had it for 2 months. Have had absolutely zero issues for $100 cheaper. Owned a scuff and the lb button snapped off within 2 months
I dont feel it on mine the controller isn’t that good for almost 200$ most literally come with drift i would rate it a 6.5/10 you can prob find better ngl
Honestly, Everyone I know, including myself, has had issues with the Elite S2 having thumbtick drift and issues with bumpers either not working or double clicking.
For me the razer controller is the best. I’ve had it for 2 years with absolutely no problems. The only problem was I broke it but the controller didn’t break itself.
I have the razer wolverine ultimate bought it last year, sometimes I get thumb drifts and another thing that the grip is turning color from grey to brown also everytime it gets some dirt that you need to remove with your finger even tho I put it in its case whenever I finish, But overall its so good.
Elite controllers get stick drift just as fast as a regular xbox controller (I've had 2 Elites and about 6 regular xbox wireless controllers). They literally have the same exact internal parts for the thumb-sticks, so no surprise the Elite controllers get stick drift just as easily. The Razer Wolverine (I had the Ultimate version) lasted about twice as long for me. Both the Elite and Wolverine controllers felt great to me. I just ordered the PowerA Fusion Pro, so I can't give any feedback about it yet, but it does have an anti-stick drift function since you can re calibrate the sticks if they start to drift.
The Razer Wolverine Te is the best controller hands down. Have had mine for almost 3 years and have had no issues. Except for stick drift, which can be easily fixed by cleaning the sensors in the joystick module.
Triplee Thanks I was wondering what controller to buy by watching these videos I was gonna buy the series 2 but everyone said it breaks to easily and hearing a controller lasts for 3 years+ is very useful instead of buying a 180 pound controller every year
I don't really comment often on youtube, but I have to say, this was an extraordinary and insightful review. Thank you very much, I ordered a Fusion Pro based off this. Your tone and personality is really calming to watch.
Awesome review. I'm a 50 yr old PC & console gamer. Controllers are the utmost importance for me. +I have the Elite 2 Controller for PC, but will be checking out the PowerA now as well. TY Sir !!
I think objectively, the $80 dollar price point, giving you all the practical features the Wolverine and Elite 2 have and luxuries they have for so much cheaper, it's the clear winner for me. Good weight, customizable thumbsticks, carrying case, 4 easily programmable paddles that feel very nice, it's an easy win. Thing is durable too. Just my thoughts.
I did get the power a Fusion in august 2020 from your video, waiting on response from them after my L3 not responding when trying to sprint. Wish me luck 😬
Same, I like to customize my binds and use the sort of “double/extra” RB/LB buttons that are really clicky, bind those to left and right dpad, and use that to switch weapons, build a pyramid/floor, and I use the regular LB/RB buttons to edit and pull my Pickaxe out respectively. Left stick to build btw :)
I got the PowerA from watching your review 😏. I've used it for a few days now and I love it! I'm getting into the pro scene but I'm not made of money. PowerA is definitely the best bang for your buck.
Just ordered mine. Can't wait to try it out. Been through 2 xbox one standard controllers and can't stand the right thumbstick DRIFT on BOTH. (In fact there is an active lawsuit against Xbox about that)
I had one of the power A controllers before and the left bumper broke from normal use, then there warranty took a few weeks but I received another one and that one got bad stick drift after a few days. I store the controllers in a case so not sure why they break :( might give them another go. Knowing they do send a new controller if it breaks with no questions asked.
Because "Microsoft listens to gamers"... quoting all the fanboys who overlook past flaws with every new release. Its the best elite controller (garbage) since your last elite controller (garbage). Hard pass
I've just bought the PowerA as my Elite Gen1 broke and I have to say, I am very impressed by it. The only problem I do have is the paddle box at the back sticks out a bit, but I'm sure I'll get used to it.
the razer ultimate version (the upgraded version of the one shown here) is the best console controller for the fact that I have owned over 35 controllers and most have issues EVEN THE ELITE 2 (stick drift) the ultimate has stood the test of time and just feels great
Do you know of the stick control is better on the ultimate compared to the tournament? I’m thinking about switching so I can use 4 paddles and then use the extra bumpers up top for less important things than x and y
Rodeo Francisco I’m probably switching to main kbm because I learn things really fast and switched back to kbm and have been destroying on console/pc... getting new pc soon though... would recommend playing on whatever controller you know is the right size for you and finding optimal binds you can add me on fortnite epic is “adept_flo” pretty sure
Forgot the elite 2 has tension adjustability in the thumb sticks. And the charger in it's case is removable. Also can be played plugged in and even charged through an opening in the back of the case
I'm on my second elite series 2 controller and the left bumper has failed yet again. gunna exchange it for a 3rd -- it's the best feeling controller I've ever used when it works but if you're going to pick one up I'd strongly recommend getting a protection plan that allows you to swap it out for a new one if any components fail.
I own the Series 2 and it’s a great improvement from the series 1. Had I known about the Fusion Pro I would’ve still bought the Series 2. But I can’t deny the fact that the fusion pro is a GREAT contender. P.S I already have a bit of stick drift in the series 2 even when cranked to maxed thumb stick resistance and the bumpers are now clicking twice per click and I have been using the controller for almost 5 months now.
Elite Series 2 is made to break I think. Everyone says the bumpers and sticks mess up within 6 months. I am one of them people that this has happened to. I honestly hoped better for this controller 😪
TGG CrYpT me too, it’s a shame because it a great controller. I ordered the Fusion Pro because the RB stopped working completely now. I really do hope that they fix all this with the series 3
Definitely Xerberus My elites are dead it’s only been 5 months ( got it Jan 31st) stick drift is so extreme it affects my in game fights and my rb doesn’t work at times
My power A fusion pro was bought in October of 2020 going into 2022 the controller has done very well I got mine for 70 bucks In 2020 and so far there is only minor damage. The top right (holding the controller regularly) paddle is super sensitive and is no longer a "button" to push and the left trigger has a squeaky spring. All of the trigger stoppers work well and there is no stick drift. So for 70-80 bucks its a steal. The input delay is the same as a standard xbox control so other than it being wired the controller is amazing.
Good review but you missed sooo many things about the elite controller. The ease of swapping joysticks, you can adjust the tension of the joysticks, the extra joysticks for your preferred height, the different d-pad, the warranty and I can keep going. Elite hands down the best to get if you’re a gamer.
Except for the fact of stick drift after a single month, bumpers falling off the controller, the grip wearing out on the back of the controller... its awful if you're a "gamer" its great for casuals tho.
Glad I found your videos man. You do a great job of breaking down the things I care about. I am also a converted Xbox-PC player but some games like Halo and Cod I feel much more comfortable playing the way I always have. I used to have the elite controller but the thumbstick drift annoyed me among other things. I was going to buy an Elite 2 and hope the quality issues were fixed but the prices are inflated stupid high. So last night I went and bought the Fusion, cant wait to try it out next week. I would have used your affiliate link but I wanted a white one and they were sold out so I resorted to ebay, sorry! The least I can do is subscribe. Looking forward to more. Thanks a lot!
I recently wanted to get a fancy controller for my PC. Googled few articles, watched few youtube videos...Consensus was: Elite 2 is the best thing since invention of sliced bread. So I decided to spend that much money on the controller. Came back home from the shop, unpacked it, took it in my hands... WOW this thing feels amazing! Triggers feel great! Sticks you can adjust resistance! WOW amaaaaaaaazing. Started playing games..... "A" button is not registering presses or sometimes registers 2 at a price of single press. Initially I thought it was something wrong with me...But no...did some testing in controller app and it was clear as day that controller is messed up. Went back to the shop, asked for replacement. Guys in the shop did not even ask any questions (they knew). Brought back home the replacement.... Same issue. Played on this controller for few days hoping it will go away. It did not. Went back to the shop, they asked me what I would like to do. I said that I am tempted to see if 3 times makes a charm...but the guy said they do not have any more of them in stock and I tried last 2 they had. That they do not stock them anymore after a lot of people complaining and returning them. So I got PowerA Fusion 2. Half the cost. Buttons feel waaay better - each press is crisp and sharp, super tactile comparing to very lackluster Elite 2. Triggers feel worse but totally fine. They are just much lighter / have less resistance Paddles....I am not too impressed with placement comparing to Elite. They stick out further from controller body making it easier to press by mistake. And they are a bit ....Wobbly. All in all... Elite 2 is a freaking joke considering price they are asking for it. Quality control is non-existent. Considering how many people have issues with them, it is unforgivable that Microsoft did not recall them and dealt with the issue.
The elite can adjust the movement and tension of the sticks and the activation point of the trigger for immediate response it’s built more for FPS games
Only problem with your thumb stick comment is that the Elite 2 comes with a tension tool so you can make them as smooth as you want. I had the Elite 1 and it’s much smoother but non adjustable. The Elite 2 did feel more resistant but was able to change it right away. Other then that good review never seen these other ones. Looked into SCUF as well before going for the Elite again. MS has warranties so even if there is stick drift they will replace it. Scuf didn’t have that option unfortunately so if there are problems you have to buy a new one.
@@TooMuchTech i actually went out and bought the PowerA Fusion because of this video. Didn't realize it was that good of a controller at that price point really.
You forget to mention that you can change the analog stick tension on the elite S2 to three different tension sets and you can also swap out dpad and analog sticks on the S2 and it comes with different sticks and dpad buttons
Wait a few months....i loved my Elite 1 until it got stick drift after 2 months and had to be repaired...3 times in a row. Now the warranty is off, i still have stick drift and the grip rubbers fell off. From what i've heard, the Elite 2 has gpt the same issues...
@Korvus It was returned as a warranty case 3 times and got stick drift after a while in each case. The store refused to replace it with another one, had none of them in stock anymore and told me they would need to send it to microsoft.
Now I’m not sure if you had the same problem but A while ago I purchased the razer wolverine controller and the response on the thumb sticks were very odd compared to a normal controller and if you’re like me where your sensitivity had to be specific it just messes up your whole sense. I think that it’s more sensitive and has no response curve so it’s instant and that really messed me up🤔lmk what you think
@@DarthAscension I usually get double input on my lb rb after the first month and sometime my left stick drift after the second month other then that I don’t experience any other issue
I never had any drift issues with my elite controller, I suggest you switch your sprint from left stick click to one of the paddles, its way better gameplay wise and also saves you from drift
You can change the tightening of the sticks on the elite controller, so if it’s too loose or too tight you can change it. There are 3 levels of tightness for each of the sticks
Great video thank you man. You actually covered all the important things when looking for a new one with great detail thank you man this was very helpful
I’ve had the elite v1 and the powerA, my elite lasting longer but broke with thumb stick drift and the bumpers stick. My powerAs headphone jack broke within about 1 month of owning it. Sooooo idk I may go with elite v2 but only if it comes with a multiple year warranty
Hey dude. I just found your channel and I gotta say your content is great. Very straight to the point. However, I'd like to point out one minor issue. It's your camera's auto focus. As you talk and wave your hand close to the camera, the focus shifts to your hands and then back to the product. It's making me a bit dizzy. Other than that, keep it up and I hope your channel grows.
I must say that although I'm not at all closer to deciding if to get another controller and if so - which? - but I really like your reviews. No beating around the bushes, straight to the point. You're one of the few guys on TH-cam I now trust to actually have used the things you show instead of just making a nice ad for a sponsoring company. Kudos! Besides that, I like the wolverine TE but it seems like that it's now discontinued by Razer and the wolverine 2 seems more like a downgrade. Too bad!
@@TooMuchTech I used to use to Xbox Eliminator Strike Pack (4 buttons instead of 2 paddles) and if your gonna buy a Strike pack get the Eliminator. Its sooo comfortable and the buttons at first look uncomfortable but they fit perfectly on the extra fingers that you use to grip. It also helps with Input lag. Mine broke tho 👀
thx. realy helpful at my decicion for a new controller. still between the xbox elite and the Power A. Power A would be clear the better buy, but i tend to go wireless, even i sit near at my Rig. So i must think over it again, after your good Hints. ^^ Thank you Dude, good Channel, go on. & Stay Healthy
@@mkm6896 bro right on, I actually did end up buying the Power A Fusion Pro and I LOVE IT. I've been playing MnK lately so i haven't put much time on the Fusion, but once i do im planning on making a review video. I already took some footage unboxing, I just need to put in some more controller time before spouting off my take on it. so far its hecka solid tho!
@@BLOODGRIMN Nice bro you made a good choice altho i would've gone with the enhanced version just because of better paddles but the fushion pro is also very good happy gaming !
I love your videos dude. You're super relatable and have realistic expectations, which is surprisingly hard to come by on TH-cam reviews 😂 Keep up the great work!
Also the Elite 2 definitely has an issue with buttons sticking. My mate got one and in 2 weeks the A button was jammed and he had to exchange the controller, which was no problem. The lifetime warranty makes elite worth it in my eyes! Haven't personally had an issue with the stick drift
What’s the difference between the white and black fusion pro? One is marked 80 the other 60. I saw reviews over the black fusion pro and the paddles are loose.
Added bonus. The PowerA Fusion Pro has a 2 year warranty by PowerA. All the more reason to pick it over the M$ Elite controller which only has 90 days.
PowerA is the best in my opinion, I prefer having actual paddles than buttons, and the mapping being on the controller is a lot more convenient and allows you to figure out what you want to bind them to while never tabbing out.
I've been a pro controller from day one. Started with the wired controller until lightning ran into my system and through the wire after that wireless was the only way to go. The elite version 2 has almost a 40 hour life until charge is needed. Plus the app on the xbox is a game changer. But this is just my opinion.
Good video, missed the fact that elite controller has thumbstick tensioning, and sensitivity settings, there is a massive amount of customization for the elite controller that the other 2 do not have at all
What’s the best wireless controller for the best price? I jus want better more precise left stick control. My series s controller is a little erratic at times.
Would any of these be good for flight sims or war games that have flying vehicles? I understand the joystick or HOTAS but I don't have that kind of space. So been looking for a good joystick like this in general. Been gaming for years and just need to get something to play a different range of games that aren't great with keyboards WSAD and mouse. I'm leaning towards the ES2 though. The Razor would be second. Should it be this difficult to choose? LOL
I have the fusion pro and the only con is that the paddles feel somewhat cheap. The paddle layout is perfect but they could make it a bit better. Something else I want is that when I’m on k&m, my extra mouse buttons are their own type of button and if they had that for the pro controllers, it would definitely open up more opportunities
I have used Xbox elite v2, Fusion Pro, and Scuff Prestige. Favorite is the Microsoft Elite because the short trigger stops actually work. But I had to open it up to lubricate the right bumper after ~5 months of use. The short trigger stops on the Fusion Pro don’t work right in Destiny 2 on Xbox. And for the Scuff, my hands are too small to use all four back paddles.
Its was a big bummer for me when i found out that with the Fusion pro on destiny 2 the trigger stops didnt work, also the lower paddles seem not to be very responsive at all compared to my elite V1 and Wolverine Ultimate wiche sucks bc i only play fast paced fps games so response time of paddles is key imo.
My A button doesn't register standard presses, presses that would otherwise register on the regular version of the controller. Elite V2 also disconnects constantly on Destiny 2, and it takes about 20 mins of disconnects for it to start to stay connected; emphasis on "start to." I'm not sure what's more disconcerting, the hard to register A button, the Destiny 2 disconnection issues, or that I bought the controller online thru antonline. If I didn't have to ship the controller, i'd already returned it. Only reason I'm holding on to it right now is to try to break in the A button with Sonic Mania. If I don't get the A button to work properly in the next 5 days or so, I'm shipping it back.
the Xbox elite controllers last about 3 months than the same 2 items break down, and that's the left thumbstick click and the lb button i dont know if they are manufactured stress points but ive had three xbox elite controllers and both of them defect in the same locations and not to mention they are over 200 bucks in canada
How reliable is the PowerA? I have elite series 2, but the problem with elite series 2 is that after playing for a few month the buttons stop working and stickdrift appears.
After one full year of using my elite series 2 controller the right bumper is failing to register anymore. ridiculous I thought they pass these problems with the elite series 1. I am probably going to go ahead and give the power a try ..
How did you miss analog stick tension? This is a key feature that matters for FPS. It's the reason Evil controllers offer higher tension (200 grams of force) analog stick upgrades. An option that lets you dial in your aim in FPS games.
My Elite 2 broke within 3 months. Look online and you will see a number of quality issues with it and I had 2 of the main issues - faulty RB button and stick drift. For $160 its not worth it. I will try one of those other 2 next. Thanks for the info, it was well put together. Be cool!
@@chrisstrong7584 I have gone thru 3 of them all start double pressing lb and rb im omw to buy a powera pro im done with elite until i get another series 1 that one never broke im sad I traded it in to end up buying 3 elite 2's
I have linked all my old reviews of all three said controllers in the description!
Cheers for the vid man. Ive got an elite 2, i play COD about 3-4 hours a day n have taken really good care of it yet its starting to break already. Thumbsticks are starting to tighten up, controllers randomly turns on and off and it just does not feel like the controller i bought. Im going to give the PowerA Fusion a go, looks like itll fit better in my hands 👍
Too Much Tech elite 2 you can change the feel of the sticks.
Dang man that’s really unfortunate! Yeah the Elite 2 durability wise is just not where it needs to be!
Personally, as someone who only used normal controllers up until about 6 months ago and only plays console, I would say that the elite 2 is the best. It has the best feel in weight, it’s grip feels not great at first, but after hours of play, it feels great, and the battery life is amazing. I’ve played for 2-3 day (of about 5-6 hours) without having to charge it and when I do need to charge it, I just put in in the case at night and it’s fully charged by morning. That being said, I had reacently had a problem with this controller that I’ve never had before in which the controllers started bugging out and there was a buzzing inside. Very disappointed by that, I would still say that IF YOU WILLL USE THE CUSTOMIZATION FEATURES it’s worth the price range. If you just want a goo controller that feels good, I’d still recommend he base controllers.
you should review the mod eliminator
I do believe that controllers do not last as long because it is a lot harder to hurl a keyboard across the room
hammer fist work pretty well haha
I lol’d Thank you
I used to stomp on it then I cry NOOOOOOOOO and have nothing I've learned to control that anger don't really lose controllers anymore.
I gotta say the default XBox One controller is pretty durable. 😂
@@Lisa-oj9oe not for me 😂😂 i don't even throw them or anything man. Controllers last about a month for me. It's such a joke. Microsoft need to start bringing out controllers with good joystick modules that aren't cheap and cause drift stick 🙁
This dude so underrated
100 percent works for powerA 😂
Idk hes to soft, I feel no confidence in buying anything after watching his videos
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I just wanna say thank you for not having a cheesy, typical intro. You know... the "heeyyyy youtube were back again with another video... etc." Its lame.. Instead you gave quality content and just got into the information we clicked on your video to hear about. I subd immediately and I hope your channel grows as big as you want it to. I know I'll be watching you from now on.
Appreciate it my man✊🏾 we always have a lot to talk about so we might as well get right into it!
I completely agree. I just found this channel a few days ago and I love the content. Keep up the good work bro!
Also subbed this guy needs to blow up!
Bro the PowerA Fusion does have profiles, I found that out not too long after I got it. It is on Xbox One I don't know about pc though.
Dang lmao see this is why the comment section exists😂😲
@@TooMuchTech it's all good lol I just thought I'd let you know cause a lot of people don't know about it.
Right!
I use the power a on my pc. Had it for 2 months. Have had absolutely zero issues for $100 cheaper. Owned a scuff and the lb button snapped off within 2 months
Dylan lol what do you need to do to get the pc to get it working with the powerA
Here's what I’ve done:
-Xbox Standard Controller: $60
-Scuf/Collective Minds Paddles: $30-$40
-Kontrol Freeks: $15
-(Optional) Grips/Trigger stops: 15-25
Total: (Min) $105 (Max) $140
The GRIP on series 2 actually “activates” when your hands become sweaty. It’s the beat for hands that get sweaty during play,
I dont feel it on mine the controller isn’t that good for almost 200$ most literally come with drift i would rate it a 6.5/10 you can prob find better ngl
Honestly,
Everyone I know, including myself, has had issues with the Elite S2 having thumbtick drift and issues with bumpers either not working or double clicking.
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I had this issue with the Series 1 Elite.
Came here after my series 2 got a left stick drift after like 3 months 😥
Bro I had this issue with both of those pos controllers.
The only problem i have had is the rb button stopped working and now i have to apply more pressure down so it can actually function
For me the razer controller is the best. I’ve had it for 2 years with absolutely no problems. The only problem was I broke it but the controller didn’t break itself.
Razer, i choose you!
Prob the safest choice on this list lol
Too Much Tech I just ordered the tourney edition. What would u rate it outta 10
I have the razer wolverine ultimate bought it last year, sometimes I get thumb drifts and another thing that the grip is turning color from grey to brown also everytime it gets some dirt that you need to remove with your finger even tho I put it in its case whenever I finish, But overall its so good.
The main reason why I would of gotten it is for the ascetics of the controller (the rgb lol)
Elite controllers get stick drift just as fast as a regular xbox controller (I've had 2 Elites and about 6 regular xbox wireless controllers). They literally have the same exact internal parts for the thumb-sticks, so no surprise the Elite controllers get stick drift just as easily. The Razer Wolverine (I had the Ultimate version) lasted about twice as long for me. Both the Elite and Wolverine controllers felt great to me. I just ordered the PowerA Fusion Pro, so I can't give any feedback about it yet, but it does have an anti-stick drift function since you can re calibrate the sticks if they start to drift.
The Razer Wolverine Te is the best controller hands down. Have had mine for almost 3 years and have had no issues. Except for stick drift, which can be easily fixed by cleaning the sensors in the joystick module.
Triplee Thanks I was wondering what controller to buy by watching these videos I was gonna buy the series 2 but everyone said it breaks to easily and hearing a controller lasts for 3 years+ is very useful instead of buying a 180 pound controller every year
Jovanny Gallego I just followed this tutorial: th-cam.com/video/MoqW3PukDK0/w-d-xo.html
I don't really comment often on youtube, but I have to say, this was an extraordinary and insightful review. Thank you very much, I ordered a Fusion Pro based off this. Your tone and personality is really calming to watch.
Awesome review. I'm a 50 yr old PC & console gamer. Controllers are the utmost importance for me. +I have the Elite 2 Controller for PC, but will be checking out the PowerA now as well. TY Sir !!
I think objectively, the $80 dollar price point, giving you all the practical features the Wolverine and Elite 2 have and luxuries they have for so much cheaper, it's the clear winner for me. Good weight, customizable thumbsticks, carrying case, 4 easily programmable paddles that feel very nice, it's an easy win. Thing is durable too. Just my thoughts.
I would agree
I did get the power a Fusion in august 2020 from your video, waiting on response from them after my L3 not responding when trying to sprint. Wish me luck 😬
BRO the elite controller build quality is garbage lots of sticky buttons and unresponsive thumb sticks
@@Marcusfigs In my experience, I’ve just experienced the left stick. That’s it
definitely gonna have to say i like the razer one most cause of button positioning
Same, I like to customize my binds and use the sort of “double/extra” RB/LB buttons that are really clicky, bind those to left and right dpad, and use that to switch weapons, build a pyramid/floor, and I use the regular LB/RB buttons to edit and pull my Pickaxe out respectively. Left stick to build btw :)
Toolace are you in combat pro
@@AntVaz7 Nope
The razor is literally worse than the default Xbox controller I fucking hate it I wasted 150 on a razor
@@b3njys235 what's wrong with it?
something that few people consider is you really need to map your stick clicks to paddles to prevent stick drift
I got the PowerA from watching your review 😏. I've used it for a few days now and I love it! I'm getting into the pro scene but I'm not made of money. PowerA is definitely the best bang for your buck.
Just ordered mine. Can't wait to try it out. Been through 2 xbox one standard controllers and can't stand the right thumbstick DRIFT on BOTH. (In fact there is an active lawsuit against Xbox about that)
David Gatlin me to its good
I had one of the power A controllers before and the left bumper broke from normal use, then there warranty took a few weeks but I received another one and that one got bad stick drift after a few days. I store the controllers in a case so not sure why they break :( might give them another go. Knowing they do send a new controller if it breaks with no questions asked.
@@wino3310 Thanks for the feedback. I will monitor this. So far so good. No problems for me yet!
GSP Friends if it starts to break email them and they should send another. Maybe the fusion pro is better build, let me know how it goes!
I love how you talked about your needs and how you chose your picks! Great video thank you
Great video. Just to add some info, the Elite 2 still has quality issues. Controller drift out of the box and malfunction of the bumper and A buttons.
Because "Microsoft listens to gamers"... quoting all the fanboys who overlook past flaws with every new release. Its the best elite controller (garbage) since your last elite controller (garbage). Hard pass
I can vouch for this.
Lol mines chillin had it for 1 years
Yeah just had to return my elite for the 4th time, same issue the right bumper broke
i had the first elite controller for 5 years and it just broke now. Worked perfectly all that time, j guess i got lucky 🤷🏻♂️
You’re my new favorite TH-camr! Great content brother.
The Elite 2 is a piece of Junk.
And there thumb Sticks are really bad Drifter sticks.
I am so disappointed in that one.
Only problem ive had are left bumper not registering often and sometimes its disconnecting randomly
@@cjjackson2650 only thats enough for me to send back
@@bryansam5457 i wouldve but i got it as a gift and didnt discover it came with a warranty until after it was too late to register it
Been loving the Elite 2
OverFlow Beats how long have you had it?
Thanks for the honesty.
I am thinking of getting a controller with the paddles on the back.
Thanks for the vid, it helped and your channel is underrated
I've just bought the PowerA as my Elite Gen1 broke and I have to say, I am very impressed by it. The only problem I do have is the paddle box at the back sticks out a bit, but I'm sure I'll get used to it.
Does your wired headset work with the power a controller
@@deeking91 mine works they also have a firmware update you can download from their website if the mic has any problems👍🏼
@@deeking91 yea mine works. Like the other guy says, there is an update but that doesnt take more than 5mins.
the razer ultimate version (the upgraded version of the one shown here) is the best console controller for the fact that I have owned over 35 controllers and most have issues EVEN THE ELITE 2 (stick drift) the ultimate has stood the test of time and just feels great
Mine has stick drift? Owned for a month or so
My elite 2 had a LB and RB problem, I switched to Razer like 1 week ago and it’s slick
Do you know of the stick control is better on the ultimate compared to the tournament? I’m thinking about switching so I can use 4 paddles and then use the extra bumpers up top for less important things than x and y
@@alexflores7532 I would also like to know without dropping more money first. Good question
Rodeo Francisco I’m probably switching to main kbm because I learn things really fast and switched back to kbm and have been destroying on console/pc... getting new pc soon though... would recommend playing on whatever controller you know is the right size for you and finding optimal binds you can add me on fortnite epic is “adept_flo” pretty sure
Forgot the elite 2 has tension adjustability in the thumb sticks. And the charger in it's case is removable. Also can be played plugged in and even charged through an opening in the back of the case
I'm on my second elite series 2 controller and the left bumper has failed yet again. gunna exchange it for a 3rd -- it's the best feeling controller I've ever used when it works but if you're going to pick one up I'd strongly recommend getting a protection plan that allows you to swap it out for a new one if any components fail.
Dinomikeus mine just broke on me recently.. a month out of warranty. RIP
If you have the Razer Wolverine Te if you’re bumpers ever break you can just map it to the extra buttons in the front.
Triplee yeah, that’s why i was thinking of just getting the TE
U can fix the bumpers
Jed Daniels yeah how
I have all three now and I was wondering if anyone did a review of them all. Good job!
I own the Series 2 and it’s a great improvement from the series 1. Had I known about the Fusion Pro I would’ve still bought the Series 2. But I can’t deny the fact that the fusion pro is a GREAT contender.
P.S
I already have a bit of stick drift in the series 2 even when cranked to maxed thumb stick resistance and the bumpers are now clicking twice per click and I have been using the controller for almost 5 months now.
Elite Series 2 is made to break I think. Everyone says the bumpers and sticks mess up within 6 months. I am one of them people that this has happened to. I honestly hoped better for this controller 😪
TGG CrYpT me too, it’s a shame because it a great controller. I ordered the Fusion Pro because the RB stopped working completely now. I really do hope that they fix all this with the series 3
Definitely Xerberus My elites are dead it’s only been 5 months ( got it Jan 31st) stick drift is so extreme it affects my in game fights and my rb doesn’t work at times
Xerberus I have had my series 2 controller since the release date and I have had no problems
@@xerberus5007 i know its late but would u say the fusion pro is betyer than the elite series 1?
My power A fusion pro was bought in October of 2020 going into 2022 the controller has done very well I got mine for 70 bucks In 2020 and so far there is only minor damage. The top right (holding the controller regularly) paddle is super sensitive and is no longer a "button" to push and the left trigger has a squeaky spring. All of the trigger stoppers work well and there is no stick drift. So for 70-80 bucks its a steal. The input delay is the same as a standard xbox control so other than it being wired the controller is amazing.
Sensibility on sticks of the XBX Elite S2 can be adjusted.
I do want to try the PowerA Fusion Pro, my elite has right stick drift after 3 years of use.
U should get it I have it and it’s great
You can adjust the tension of the sticks on elite 2
Gimmick
So true. But you cant adjust the inevitable drift. wah lol
@@DeepishMoog no shit on that one. Lol
Don’t adjust it or it will drift
You can alter the tension of the thumb sticks on the elite v2
He looks like a we bear bear in real life and its amazing
Yes
That’s lowkey racist 😭
ArsenalSZN not really
What the hell
ArsenalSZN how? you fucking idiot
Good review but you missed sooo many things about the elite controller. The ease of swapping joysticks, you can adjust the tension of the joysticks, the extra joysticks for your preferred height, the different d-pad, the warranty and I can keep going. Elite hands down the best to get if you’re a gamer.
Except for the fact of stick drift after a single month, bumpers falling off the controller, the grip wearing out on the back of the controller... its awful if you're a "gamer" its great for casuals tho.
Glad I found your videos man. You do a great job of breaking down the things I care about. I am also a converted Xbox-PC player but some games like Halo and Cod I feel much more comfortable playing the way I always have. I used to have the elite controller but the thumbstick drift annoyed me among other things. I was going to buy an Elite 2 and hope the quality issues were fixed but the prices are inflated stupid high. So last night I went and bought the Fusion, cant wait to try it out next week. I would have used your affiliate link but I wanted a white one and they were sold out so I resorted to ebay, sorry! The least I can do is subscribe. Looking forward to more. Thanks a lot!
Haha no prob my man, thanks for watching and appreciate your comment!💯
I recently wanted to get a fancy controller for my PC. Googled few articles, watched few youtube videos...Consensus was: Elite 2 is the best thing since invention of sliced bread.
So I decided to spend that much money on the controller.
Came back home from the shop, unpacked it, took it in my hands... WOW this thing feels amazing! Triggers feel great! Sticks you can adjust resistance! WOW amaaaaaaaazing.
Started playing games.....
"A" button is not registering presses or sometimes registers 2 at a price of single press. Initially I thought it was something wrong with me...But no...did some testing in controller app and it was clear as day that controller is messed up.
Went back to the shop, asked for replacement. Guys in the shop did not even ask any questions (they knew). Brought back home the replacement....
Same issue.
Played on this controller for few days hoping it will go away.
It did not.
Went back to the shop, they asked me what I would like to do. I said that I am tempted to see if 3 times makes a charm...but the guy said they do not have any more of them in stock and I tried last 2 they had. That they do not stock them anymore after a lot of people complaining and returning them.
So I got PowerA Fusion 2.
Half the cost.
Buttons feel waaay better - each press is crisp and sharp, super tactile comparing to very lackluster Elite 2.
Triggers feel worse but totally fine. They are just much lighter / have less resistance
Paddles....I am not too impressed with placement comparing to Elite. They stick out further from controller body making it easier to press by mistake. And they are a bit ....Wobbly.
All in all...
Elite 2 is a freaking joke considering price they are asking for it.
Quality control is non-existent.
Considering how many people have issues with them, it is unforgivable that Microsoft did not recall them and dealt with the issue.
Fam my elite s2 got thumb stick drift within 3 weeks. Not to mention, both my bumpers are now completely unresponsive.
I recently got the Fusion Pro and their is no stick drift it also comes with two different thumbstick
Thank you so much I really appreciate this I've been wanting to buy a new controller
The elite can adjust the movement and tension of the sticks and the activation point of the trigger for immediate response it’s built more for FPS games
Yes, and it’s also built to break lol
@@TooMuchTech as all tech is built to break
i have had the wolverine for a little over a month now and i love it. Best pro controller for claw players if you want extra button (+rgb) :)))
What is rgb?
Only problem with your thumb stick comment is that the Elite 2 comes with a tension tool so you can make them as smooth as you want. I had the Elite 1 and it’s much smoother but non adjustable. The Elite 2 did feel more resistant but was able to change it right away. Other then that good review never seen these other ones. Looked into SCUF as well before going for the Elite again. MS has warranties so even if there is stick drift they will replace it. Scuf didn’t have that option unfortunately so if there are problems you have to buy a new one.
I had the elite 2 and took a crap on me 6 months in! Love the controller but man how do you justify the price tag with no durability.
Exactly!
@@TooMuchTech i actually went out and bought the PowerA Fusion because of this video. Didn't realize it was that good of a controller at that price point really.
I prefer the Razer because I like it's back buttons best of all. The Power A paddles constantly seemed to fall out when I had it.
welp the wolverine ultimate basically fills in all the problems of the tournament, except slippery paddles and like 1 more thing.
@nick junior you sound like you've never owned a Razer wolverine tbh
You forget to mention that you can change the analog stick tension on the elite S2 to three different tension sets and you can also swap out dpad and analog sticks on the S2 and it comes with different sticks and dpad buttons
Stephen Whitney doesn’t matter if you get stick drift in 3 months🤣 I have full reviews linked in the description
Loving my elite 2, first ever pro controller so no frame of reference but I’m never going back lol
Wait a few months....i loved my Elite 1 until it got stick drift after 2 months and had to be repaired...3 times in a row. Now the warranty is off, i still have stick drift and the grip rubbers fell off.
From what i've heard, the Elite 2 has gpt the same issues...
@Korvus It was returned as a warranty case 3 times and got stick drift after a while in each case. The store refused to replace it with another one, had none of them in stock anymore and told me they would need to send it to microsoft.
Yeah you’ll love your series 2 until to get stick drift on the left stick ! Enjoy
It’s nice until it’s out of warranty. The bumpers and joysticks are prone to messing up. My bumper is not consistent anymore and costs $70 to repair.
@RedRagLoko where did u take your Elite 2 to be repaired? I need mine repaired.
Now I’m not sure if you had the same problem but A while ago I purchased the razer wolverine controller and the response on the thumb sticks were very odd compared to a normal controller and if you’re like me where your sensitivity had to be specific it just messes up your whole sense. I think that it’s more sensitive and has no response curve so it’s instant and that really messed me up🤔lmk what you think
Keep hearing about how all of these elite 2 controllers keep breaking makes me not wanna get it anymore lol idk what to get now
I bought my 3rd elite controller one month ago already has got problems if you do get one make sure you abuse the warranty Microsoft give you
@@requestinguavz what issues, I just got a elite s2...
@@DarthAscension I usually get double input on my lb rb after the first month and sometime my left stick drift after the second month other then that I don’t experience any other issue
I never had any drift issues with my elite controller, I suggest you switch your sprint from left stick click to one of the paddles, its way better gameplay wise and also saves you from drift
Finally, a good pro controller review. No lame attempts at humor and proper camera focus.
You also got to look at when your playing and you hit a paddle accidentally.
You can change the tightening of the sticks on the elite controller, so if it’s too loose or too tight you can change it. There are 3 levels of tightness for each of the sticks
I own the ultimate the paddle lasted nearly 2 years i say nearly because i dropped it 1 too many times and it broke
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Isn't it difficult to hit the extra top buttons without accidentally hitting RB/LB? I've only every used double paddles on the backs of controllers?
Great review and comparison.After all my reading, this has help me with decision. Good job
Great video thank you man. You actually covered all the important things when looking for a new one with great detail thank you man this was very helpful
1 thing he forgot to mention: The wolverine is indestructible
my left thumb stick doesn’t register anything anymore for the wolverine but other then that i’ll have to agree with you there
I’ve had the elite v1 and the powerA, my elite lasting longer but broke with thumb stick drift and the bumpers stick. My powerAs headphone jack broke within about 1 month of owning it. Sooooo idk I may go with elite v2 but only if it comes with a multiple year warranty
He used mongraal “ that is a controller playerrrr !!!!” 00:06
Woah crazy fortnite player freaks out becuase a shit streamer is famous!!
Hey dude. I just found your channel and I gotta say your content is great. Very straight to the point. However, I'd like to point out one minor issue. It's your camera's auto focus. As you talk and wave your hand close to the camera, the focus shifts to your hands and then back to the product. It's making me a bit dizzy. Other than that, keep it up and I hope your channel grows.
Based on your video, I bought a PowerA. Greetings from Germany 👍🏻
updates?
@@jstratton6236 returned it. Quality was not satisfactory
I must say that although I'm not at all closer to deciding if to get another controller and if so - which? - but I really like your reviews. No beating around the bushes, straight to the point. You're one of the few guys on TH-cam I now trust to actually have used the things you show instead of just making a nice ad for a sponsoring company. Kudos!
Besides that, I like the wolverine TE but it seems like that it's now discontinued by Razer and the wolverine 2 seems more like a downgrade. Too bad!
I feel like the powerA is gonna be insane
I have the PowerA and like it more than the elite 2. I didn’t get the wolverine because I didn’t like the back paddle placement.
You forgot Scuf, Battle Beaver, and Collective Mind's attachment.
I have the collective minds dominator pack. I love it, but I want a controller with paddles. I wanted a Scuf but I've heard horrible things.
Yuppp! Just posted a review
@@TooMuchTech I used to use to Xbox Eliminator Strike Pack (4 buttons instead of 2 paddles) and if your gonna buy a Strike pack get the Eliminator. Its sooo comfortable and the buttons at first look uncomfortable but they fit perfectly on the extra fingers that you use to grip. It also helps with Input lag. Mine broke tho 👀
Also the extra 2 buttons
thx. realy helpful at my decicion for a new controller.
still between the xbox elite and the Power A.
Power A would be clear the better buy, but i tend to go wireless, even i sit near at my Rig.
So i must think over it again, after your good Hints. ^^
Thank you Dude, good Channel, go on.
& Stay Healthy
7:41 , the Wolverine has profile feature
On the elite you can change the stick tension or whatever it called with a special tool in the case
I was about to buy a Scuf on cyber monday... resisted. I might go with the Power A.... Thanks for this review bro! I appreciate it!
Dont buy man, its overpriced shyt with only 6months warranty lol check out power A enhanced is really good for under 50$
@@mkm6896 bro right on, I actually did end up buying the Power A Fusion Pro and I LOVE IT. I've been playing MnK lately so i haven't put much time on the Fusion, but once i do im planning on making a review video. I already took some footage unboxing, I just need to put in some more controller time before spouting off my take on it. so far its hecka solid tho!
@@BLOODGRIMN Nice bro
you made a good choice altho i would've gone with the enhanced version just because of better paddles but the fushion pro is also very good happy gaming !
The only thing stopping me from getting a Power A is the fact that there's no extra buttons next to the triggers like my Wolverine Ultimate.
Ive had a powerA for over a year its is still as good as i bought it, also the triggers get better the more u play, such as a week
saw your channel and cant stop watching! love your vids
I love your videos dude. You're super relatable and have realistic expectations, which is surprisingly hard to come by on TH-cam reviews 😂 Keep up the great work!
Great video. Just swapped out my razor thumb sticks for original xbox one thumbsticks to use xbox kontrol Freeks. Works perfectly 👌
Also the Elite 2 definitely has an issue with buttons sticking. My mate got one and in 2 weeks the A button was jammed and he had to exchange the controller, which was no problem. The lifetime warranty makes elite worth it in my eyes! Haven't personally had an issue with the stick drift
What’s the difference between the white and black fusion pro? One is marked 80 the other 60. I saw reviews over the black fusion pro and the paddles are loose.
Added bonus. The PowerA Fusion Pro has a 2 year warranty by PowerA. All the more reason to pick it over the M$ Elite controller which only has 90 days.
seeeee seeee
PowerA is the best in my opinion, I prefer having actual paddles than buttons, and the mapping being on the controller is a lot more convenient and allows you to figure out what you want to bind them to while never tabbing out.
I've been a pro controller from day one. Started with the wired controller until lightning ran into my system and through the wire after that wireless was the only way to go. The elite version 2 has almost a 40 hour life until charge is needed. Plus the app on the xbox is a game changer. But this is just my opinion.
Nice I'm also a controller
@nick junior really I noticed any problems
A pro controller player 😂😂 every1 is a pro
@@lonelywolfcnc2126????
Good video, missed the fact that elite controller has thumbstick tensioning, and sensitivity settings, there is a massive amount of customization for the elite controller that the other 2 do not have at all
Wasn’t an in depth review, but I have links to all three in the description if you want to check them out further
You can pull the Angolan stick on the controller to remove stick drift
That sounds horrible to spend that much money and consider that a solution.
What’s the best wireless controller for the best price? I jus want better more precise left stick control. My series s controller is a little erratic at times.
Just ordered a Power A so i’m happy to see it’s your favorite, thank you for the review❤️❤️
Would any of these be good for flight sims or war games that have flying vehicles? I understand the joystick or HOTAS but I don't have that kind of space. So been looking for a good joystick like this in general. Been gaming for years and just need to get something to play a different range of games that aren't great with keyboards WSAD and mouse. I'm leaning towards the ES2 though. The Razor would be second. Should it be this difficult to choose? LOL
Dude, dope review! I really liked the format and info. Thanks
I have the fusion pro and the only con is that the paddles feel somewhat cheap. The paddle layout is perfect but they could make it a bit better. Something else I want is that when I’m on k&m, my extra mouse buttons are their own type of button and if they had that for the pro controllers, it would definitely open up more opportunities
A other thing is that my pro controller is regular USB not a micro USB
What kind of kontrool freeks do you use I use a low rise vortex and a high rise inferno
Is it true you have to update the software of the pro fusion?
I have used Xbox elite v2, Fusion Pro, and Scuff Prestige. Favorite is the Microsoft Elite because the short trigger stops actually work. But I had to open it up to lubricate the right bumper after ~5 months of use. The short trigger stops on the Fusion Pro don’t work right in Destiny 2 on Xbox. And for the Scuff, my hands are too small to use all four back paddles.
Its was a big bummer for me when i found out that with the Fusion pro on destiny 2 the trigger stops didnt work, also the lower paddles seem not to be very responsive at all compared to my elite V1 and Wolverine Ultimate wiche sucks bc i only play fast paced fps games so response time of paddles is key imo.
Xavyra I did not notice any problem with back paddle response. I guess they are a little squishy so there isn’t good feedback
My A button doesn't register standard presses, presses that would otherwise register on the regular version of the controller. Elite V2 also disconnects constantly on Destiny 2, and it takes about 20 mins of disconnects for it to start to stay connected; emphasis on "start to." I'm not sure what's more disconcerting, the hard to register A button, the Destiny 2 disconnection issues, or that I bought the controller online thru antonline.
If I didn't have to ship the controller, i'd already returned it. Only reason I'm holding on to it right now is to try to break in the A button with Sonic Mania. If I don't get the A button to work properly in the next 5 days or so, I'm shipping it back.
Wolverine Ultimate has a similar remappable button solution as the Razer Wildcat. I’ve been using the Wildcat for over 2 years with zero problems.
the Xbox elite controllers last about 3 months than the same 2 items break down, and that's the left thumbstick click and the lb button i dont know if they are manufactured stress points but ive had three xbox elite controllers and both of them defect in the same locations and not to mention they are over 200 bucks in canada
How reliable is the PowerA? I have elite series 2, but the problem with elite series 2 is that after playing for a few month the buttons stop working and stickdrift appears.
After one full year of using my elite series 2 controller the right bumper is failing to register anymore. ridiculous I thought they pass these problems with the elite series 1. I am probably going to go ahead and give the power a try ..
How did you miss analog stick tension? This is a key feature that matters for FPS. It's the reason Evil controllers offer higher tension (200 grams of force) analog stick upgrades. An option that lets you dial in your aim in FPS games.
My Elite 2 broke within 3 months. Look online and you will see a number of quality issues with it and I had 2 of the main issues - faulty RB button and stick drift. For $160 its not worth it. I will try one of those other 2 next. Thanks for the info, it was well put together. Be cool!
Steven Brooke I would definitely go for the Wolverine Ultimate if you can afford it.
Those are my exact same problems 5 months in. Stick drift on the left & RB button not working at all.
@@chrisstrong7584 they upped the warramty from 90 days to 1 year i just called em and am getting a new series 2 for free
@@chrisstrong7584 I have gone thru 3 of them all start double pressing lb and rb im omw to buy a powera pro im done with elite until i get another series 1 that one never broke im sad I traded it in to end up buying 3 elite 2's
@@itzjizmakig any updates on the new controller I’m thinking about buying the elite 2 but idk