Ryzen 7000 Runs HOT but Does it even Matter?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 มิ.ย. 2024
- Some people say the 7950X, 7900X, 7700X and 7600X run "hot". But does it even matter when you compare CPU performance and clock speeds? That's what we wanted to find out with different AIOs and air coolers. And the results are pretty shocking.
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0:00 - Ryzen 7000 Run "HOT" or not...
0:51 - The Cooler Lineup
1:27 - Ryzen 7000 Temperatures vs Ryzen 5000
2:15 - Desktop CPUs that Run Like Laptops
3:05 - Benefits & Issues of a THICK IHS
4:51 - Walking off the Temperature Cliff
6:04 - Ad Spot
6:38 - Is the Cooler IRRELEVANT?
7:44 - 7950X Temperature vs Clock Speeds
9:04 - 7950X on a $30 Heatsink!
10:06 - 7950X vs Air & Water Cooling
11:10 - 7600X Temperatures vs Clock Speeds
11:54 - 7600X vs Air & Water Cooling
12:41 - This is REALITY for Most of you
13:16 - 7950X GAMING Temperatures
13:58 - 7600X GAMING Temperatures
14:42 - This Changes EVERYTHING
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This testing was extremely well done and well explained - great work! This makes me feel way more comfortable choosing a cooler that’ll be best for my build
Ryzen 7000 is as hot as 12y schoolgal 😜
@@davidjones5059 Hol'up
I couldn't have said better than that.
Nice works, HC! 😊
@@davidjones5059 Creep
Finally, someone trustful who actually tested gaming scenarios temps. Everyone is just rushing towards synthetic benchmark to hit the headroom of the CPU for their audience, but little did they know, most of their audience are gamers and are looking into gaming performance benchmark. Glad we got people at Hardware Canucks, who think outside the box. Who knew the 7000 series were running below 70c for gaming? Not me, well until now.
Exactly.
This review I found much more informative and realistic than artificial stress testing. Cheers.
Excellent charts, been looking at these for really heavy workloads so these kind of performance-loss to temperature charts really helps as a rough gauge. Thanks for doing this testing.
Thanks for the credit. It took a while to figure out how to display the results. Glad to hear it worked out. :)
Hi, thank you for the full explanation and greatly appreciated it. I tested the 7950x, yes it does stays 95 degrees but and clock frequency does depend on the cooler’s capabilities. But if you tweak in PBO2 by lowering the PPT by 1/2 which is 115w instead of 230w you can still hit the 5ghz mark with boost but with a lower temperature. I do agree with you if allow to, best is by getting the best cooler pc builders can get. Am running off a 420 aio which benefits the clock frequency and boost.
This video helped clarify alot, thanks! I was worried that my high temps (48-68c idle and 70-80c at load) were related to that whole exploding chip fiasco.
These illustrations are top notch and make the issue very clear, great video thank you guys for the hard work
Great video. Shows the comparison between the cooling solutions and puts it into perspective. Good stuff!
So Ryzen 7000 has made liquid cooling redundant, that is ironically cool.
Yes but no, more cooling = more performance at high temps. If your room gets too hot then it becomes redundant.
Kinda it’s more what cooler you use determines your cpu power/ghz
@@schwalmy8227 your room isn't going to simply get more hot because of your computer. Thermal dynamics doesn't work that way
@@zakkeith1508 True, it depends on the size of the room and the air flow, however my 3080 and 9900k kick out a ridiculous amount of heat and cooling your room starts to become just as much of a problem as cooling your computer
@ÃTrollÄššÑigga Then next big thing will be chimney heat pipes attached to PC case, other end connected to room exhaust fan 😁😁
Great video! Thank you for all your effort. Is nice to know that the heat is manageable. Now it only the motherboard and memory prices would go down.
And the CPU prices.
This was very interesting. I recently bought a 7700X and the Wraith Prism fan ramping up and down due to temp spiking was driving me nuts. I had an old Deeopcool Gammax 400 that I put a Noctua fan on as a temporary solution...temps and frequencies are about the same as as the Prism but much quieter. During typical gaming sessions the 7700X hovers around ~70C with the Gammax 400.
I changed the cooler for the same reason, noise level. I even keep fan speed max 400RPM for all fans. Its fine for hardware to run hot and most of the cases there is no performance penalty.
Exactly the video I needed. Thanks!
Mike's cooler videos are imo the absolute best content Hardware Canucks makes. It really revitalised the channel.
Oh thanks! - Mike
Great subject and it was so well explained. Thanks for the video.
This is awesome! I just got a deep cool ls520 because I have the MSI k240 and the temps seemed off, but after looking at all the videos the temps seem fine. Now I'm just looking into which seemed likes better quality product and the possible longevity of the coolers.
Thank you for going into the gaming bit. So many people think that when their cpu says 100 in game on an osd that it means the cpu is maxed out in every way. They also associate 100 usage to highest temp. This will go a long way to correct this issue with some.
Great info here thank you!
Would be interested to see these with Noctua’s new cooler and de8aur’s dilidding tool.
Thank you! Very informative.
Fantastic testing and info. Thanks.
This was very informative.. Thank you. Just bought a Ryzen 5 7600x and the budget cooler. Guess I should consider upgrading. :)
It was exactly the information I wanted to know. Thank you.
Excellent information, thank you!
Great video explaining the weird temperatures I get from my 7600x. Thank you so much!
Insanely good comparisons, was just looking for gaming performance and cooling factors for the 7600x, this helped tremendously!
What I'm waiting is to see the X3D version eventually, how the heat and clocks will be managed this time around. Should be interesting especially since they plan to release more models.
I’m hoping they can also make the ihs thinner with the X3D. More chip should mean less space to compensate for.
@@andyruse4670 This is my hope too. I'm excited by the idea that they still hit 95C but can push way faster 😄
@@andyruse4670 x3d versions have the same die height so ihs will be the same
It's idiotic to run these CPUs stock. You need to run these undervolted, or at least in ECO mode. That's how you manage power consumption and heat.
@@reptilespantoso for most people, they game. and CPUs aren't running 215 watts in gaming, probably between 70 -120. if you really care about your power bill and power consumption you should be more concerned about your gpu
This video was very well done. Thank you so much
Absolutely excellent review. Just what I wanted to know. I'm still going to use a custom loop 120 in my DIY custom case, as it enables me to place the radiator in a separate open-air chamber outside the CPU Chamber. So the extracted heat will go nowhere near the motherboard. Similarly the GPU will be in its own open-air chamber. So both the CPU Cooler and GPU will draw fresh cold air and expell hot air back into the room. I had been hesitating between a 240 radiator and a 120 radiator plus 3 x 3.5" hot-swap drive bays for 2.5" SSDs. Now I know. So many thanks. BTW my whole case will fit in my briefcase.
It would be nice to also see the measured TDP with these charts: how much more power and voltage can be fed to the CPU under better coolers. I guess that's ultimately what determines the clock speeds that can be reached? And on that note, if higher temperatures need more voltage (and power) for the same stability, would be interesting to see how these CPUs could be tuned to perform on lower target temperatures. Though on the other hand, the higher the temperature delta, the better the heat transfer is, and that again means more power and voltage for the higher clocks...
Thanks for this video. It was very useful.
Fantastic review Mike, best video out there on this stuff.
as a gamer i run a 7600x and the ak620… 4k and 120fps and i’ve never tripped north of 60c or so. my cpu fans stay nice and quiet. all core work yes, the am5 chips are fuente. but for every day computing or gaming, you’ll be fine. great video, it helped me make my purchase.
Brilliant explanation! Many thanks 🎉
Best (most informative/useful) damn 7000 series content I’ve seen yet
Beautiful methodology, data visualization, and presentation
This video is very useful. I'll be building my first AMD build and helped to undertand which cooler I should be going for. Great work!
Good vid. well explained (y)
A great explanation Mike 😇👍 about how the processor works and for most people, gamers, you don’t need a super high cooler for max per 😱🤯🤩👍. I’ve been commenting for over 10yrs now that mobile tech will be the future of pc going into the future, and it appears that Ryzen 7000 CPUs are doing that as you explained. I feel the future of tech is going be truely amazing 🤩
Fantastic video. I've never been a fan of AIOs so I brought my Dark Rock Pro 4 forward from my 3900x build to my new 7950x. The very minor loss in performance on extremely heavy workloads is fine by me.
The only other thing I wanted to see that this video did not cover is how long it takes to return to a baseline temperature after being on a max load for a sufficiently extended period of time.
You are a strong person in explaining. Thank you for the information. I will buy one soon. Thank you
Thank you so much for this video i love you man keep up with the videos❤
Amazing work here, you get a sub and a like, fantastic video guys!
Thank you for such a video!
What a great video. Subscribed
This is the video I've been looking for a long time. Like a did a week worth of research on whether I should pick AIO or Air cooler once I get a 7950x3D. Now I can be confident that a good Air Cooler like the D15 can perform on par with other good liquid coolers.
I love you, thank you so much for this video, solved all my problems!
amazing video man thanks
great breakdown, thank you
really good video, was debating sould i go all the way to 360 aio and this video makes me think i don't need an aio at all just that they look ggood
I like that the ak400 and ak620 are the ones representing the budget and high-end air cooling in these charts. These two coolers are absolute gem from deepcool and blows the majority of other air coolers out of the water in terms of price-to-perf in the current market.
(I'm kinda biased coz I'm using the ak400 myself, such a nice cooler)
Super informative video.
Very good test. Looks like I'm gonna get a 360 AIO and upgrade the fans to the Phanteks T30 to keep my Blender renders in check.
However you left out one question: What about undervolting? Does it reduce temps?
Yes it can help but 95C may be hit anyways just at higher speeds, you also do have the option on most boards to override the 95C temperature target. For example you can set your board to a target of 85C, which will result in a small performance loss obviously, but for extreme sustained workloads may be worth it in terms of performance per watt as well.
My personal plan due to working in a sound sensitive environment (music studio) is to manually cap the fans at around 40%, and set the temp target to 85C. In theory the PBO should take care of the rest and find the frequency that works to achieve that fan speed and temp balance.
tl;dr you pick the temperature and the chip will ramp up until it hits that temperature. CPU cooler decides raw peak performance rather than the temps as the temps will be the ramp target.
Very good video nice work and tnx :)
excellent test 👍
Great video🙏👌
This review changed my mind about the 7000 series. Now I wonder how the mobile processors will perform.
Really well explained. Here I was, going worried crazy over the 95 degrees occasional max temps.
I have a noctua air cooler with three 140mm fans mounted in the top of my case blowing down on it and while I see temp spikes to 95C under heavy load, it immediately cools to under 50C the moment load is removed. Throttling until you hit your thermal cap is AMD's way of squeezing as much performance out of these things as possible.
Man, this video is a gem, thank you!!!
I ordered a AK620 today before been able to watch this video (to most likely go with a R5 7600X), but after watching this video Im starting to think its a bit overkill - for gaming only.
A smaller cooler would probably be easy to install and be more compatible with motherboard and RAM.... Now I do not know what to do... should I go with the AK400 or Arctic Freezer 34 esports duo or similar options?
The AK620 is perfect, especially if you run into an odd scenario where a game loads the CPU a bit more.
How did it go? Are you happy with your decision?
@@oscargranath93 The cooler is very good, but yeah in my particular case I had trouble because my RAM is very tall. Im waiting for free time to be able to do the change in my current system, Ryzen 5 3600. I think removing the front fan will be the easiest solution and Im guessing will still bring very good temps when loaded.
I will also see if I can add the front fan to the back lol, perhaps it will help there.
Once Im able to upgrade to a Ryzen 5 7600 (non-X) I will get smaller DDR5 RAM sticks so I can put the front cooler back. (Saldy where I live stock are very bad and prices have gone through the rooft).
@@rodrirm I am getting Kingston Fury Beast 2x16GB. Will it fit?
Absolutely great test and explanation👍. It save me lot of time and nerves as with such temperatures I will never go for this AMD series.
Nicely presented-
I wish you had tested it with the power limitat set tl 105W or 65W. I've seen reviews saying there wasn't that big of a performance impact and thermals were a LOT tamer.
But why sacrifice performance? Its meant to be ran at 95. You cohld say fan noise i guess, or you could just tuen the fans down ans let the CPU just stay at 95c at lower freq.
@@conradical5941 7950x sometimes is 40+% better (almost to much considering 13% ipc uplift). Everyone was happy with how much better 5950x was then 3950x. So conclusion you can still have 25-35% improve, however without a penalty in heat, longevidity of cpu (95°C is not good for cpu period, my current one is 8 years old and will keep lasting cause of it's 65°C game workign temp.) The power consumption ALSO is gigantically much to high for 3-5% improvement (0% in gaming). Conclusion, 105 wat eco mode makes a ton of sense on the 7950x. You remove the 95°C spike temp in all but rendering, you remove the doubling of power usage, and you still retain a massive advantage over 5000 series, and you have am5 wich allows further upgrade.
@@des0lation_ Maybe you are right, maybe not, i don't wanna take the risk. Also the fact that the temps seem 'locked in the chip', not getting out (all sort of tests confirmed this, the bad head spreader locks the temps in), i really dont like.
Secondly a 40-65°C gaming cpu (I5 3570k), already give some heat on the super hot days (38°C in schadows last year in belgium, new record). I dont want my pc to give heat. For me already going to 80-85° (wich is basically giving some leeway to amd, while i already love and prefer 65°) is the max for me. Going instantly to a perma 95° during heavy task, NO THANKS! You may like and trust it, i dont.
Have you pur your hand in 45°C water? then try in 60 degree, or on metal that hot, or on stones in super hot day? It feels incredible destructive, for metal i trust it handles it, for transistor by transistor specific design, with some soldering? Nah. no way, maybe in early stages, but not later. Also amd could not have tested them for more then 2 years (24/7), i used this pc 8.5 years! And guess what, my new cpu will be higher end then ever, to make sure that it... wil last 8+ years. And guess what the longer the cpu must last, the lesser risks i can take, especially out of warranty, no thanks to 95°.
@@Matti6950"95°C is not good for cpu"
"my current one is 8 years old and will keep lasting cause of it's 65°C"
And this proves your point how exactly?
I saw Pentium 4 that run at constant 85C for 15+ years due to incorrect cooler installation (plastic cover was not removed, lol).
Everything was fine with it.
@@cheshirsterand most people probably gonna change their pc or upgrade their part , mainly gpu and cpu after 6 years at best lol
Wow that is a really good vid ^^
well done very good test
i just wanted to request gaming results :D thanks for that. This realistic scenario isnt really mentioned anywhere.
Great video, and I know it's a little old. Just got my first rzyen CPU. I wonder if there is really an advantage to undervolt the CPU for max'ing performance?
the great things about these CPU's is that you can under volt them lower the over all temps and get BETTER performance.
very nice to see that budget coolers are viable for ryzen 7000 series
they are viable because nothing can pull down the temps, so its a win by surrender lmao
Very informative video, where many/most scenarios are covered and explained. But after reading comments, there's still a lot confusion about HEAT. I've watched many Ryzen 7000 video "studies" talking about 95°C, where people keep asking about heat, but the only answer we get is "no worry, 95C is now 65C" -which (to me) sound like avoiding to answer & explain actual question. Saying (here in comments) "Just because something runs hot, doesn't mean it outputs more heat" isn't really helpful (even it's true!) -it needs an explanation. Not to mention stupid comments like "Gamers have proven with this launch that they REALLY don't get physics." What many wish, is the clear answer to the question: will now more heat come out of PC? And if yes, by how much?
Measuring unit for amount of heat is Joule and measuring unit for power is Watt. How these two relate? The answer is: 1W=1J/second. We can see, that amount of heat only depends on power (equation doesn't contain temperature). That is, temperature has nothing to do with amount of heat. First thing that comes to mind is "wait... but 95°C is hotter than 65°C.. and so it must create more heat.". No, it doesn't! Here's an example which hopefully explain this:
Let's assume we have a CPU (with some "normal" cooler), which has temperature of 95°C when powered by 100W. Now we only change the cooler with a better one and CPU temperature drops to 80°C. Does that mean, we generate less heat now? Of course not. Amount of heat can't just vanish by changing the cooler. By changing the cooler we only reduced CPU temperature -because better cooler dissipates (the same amount of heat) more efficient. Again, amount of heat only depends on input power. And this also explains the following claim: at given power, the amount of heat dissipated out of PC case remains the same, regardless of CPU temperature and what cooler is being used.
In short: if one CPU has 95°C and another has 80°C, and both consume 100W, then both PC's will increase the room temperature by exactly the same amount (because both dissipate the same amount of heat). The only way to reduce (or increase) amount of heat, is by changing power.
Thank you for reading
Hardware Canucks is doing very well on the Ryzen 7000 reviews and solutions.
You guys seem not to be fully NDA mouth shut to talk about concerns where the consumers should look at.
Bravo!
Thanks but seriously AMD, Intel and NVIDIA all allow us to say what we want.
So basically I've been worrying about my 7700X hitting 95 degree with an 240mm AIO for nothing, thanks for the video! Makes me feel less stressed when I see the temps, haha!
yeah exactly same case scenario here i replaced my noctua low cooler thinking that was the problem with corsair h115i
@@simpledev6066 I'm just using the stock fan right now but I think I might get a liquid cooler just a squeeze a little bit more performance out of it. The only issue I have is I just wonder about the longevity of the CPU but I would imagine AMD did take that into consideration when they were building the processor in the first place.
@@ProfligateGhost I think they said that everything is fine and its designed to be this way, right now Im using my pc for about 10 hours and my min temps were 53 and max 82 hard multi tasking but I usually get 50-65
Yeah, I was downloading Microsoft Flight Simulator last night, and was worried that it was at a constant 75 degrees C
I've also figured out that one of the reasons why it was running hot was because my motherboard had precision boost overdrive on by default. I disabled it and now my temps are definitely about 60 maybe 70 when I'm gaming. And I haven't really noticed the performance hit at all. So that might help too
I would have loved to have seen performance differences between full bore BIOS settings and eco mode at 105w or 65w…
i really wanna see a person who runs fans on 100% :D
ill be not surprised if EK or other brands start releasing backplate(mean behind the motherboard) water cooling to absorb heat.
What was the boost behaviour like on the 7600x in game? Did it hold 5.4ghz steady on the AK620?
It's hard to say "steady" since every game load is different.
This was incredibly helpful, I mostly game with a few multimedia workloads, so there's no point in spending all that money on an expensive AIO for my use case. I can wait the extra 60 seconds with it running at 5.0ghz instead of 5.2 in those instances.
Thank you! I am about to order a 7950x (for wordprocessing 😆 ) and wondered if my nzxt kraken elite 280 would do and with this test i am confident it will :)
Thanks Deepcool. Listen, I have a 280EX if you make a white 280mm LS version, and it performs just as good as the EX I have, I'll buy it.
thank god! I was worried that the thermal paste or the air cooler was bad or something (ID cooling 224 XTS), I am rocking a 7600 non X and the temperatures pass the 80°C while gaming (2-6 hours at day) so this is a relieve! This is all stock fan speed and fan curve including case fans and gpu fan curve so if I can tweak this and also see if I can undervolt the cpu so I can reduce the temps and make it stay at least 75°C or less. Note that the Case is a Matrexx 50 all tempered glass with 4 fans preinstalled (bad choice for temps, there is a same model of the case with mesh in the front panel so in case you are wanting to buy this same one, I would recommend going mesh in the front panel).
Edit: I had a FX8350 in the past and boy that thing went 90°C with stock cooler and with a shitty case from the early 2000s, I remember to this day the fan going 7000rpm and it felt like a plane taking off inside my house. So I had a little PTSD while monitoring the temps on this one.
I was gonna upgrade my i7-3770K to a new Ryzen 7800X complete build, but have since decided to abandon this idea and instead buy a mini PC, which greatly lowers the overall cost.. Specifically I'm looking at the 6900HX with the RDNA2 integrated GPU, the GTR6 by Beelink coming out next month. For my needs this is the perfect desktop PC upgrade.
You know... amd is working on a proper apu right now. Rumors say graphics close to a low power mobile 3060.
Just something to keep an eye out.
Honestly, I got an AIO but it was only so I could mount it on the top (as exhaust). I know it's probably not helping my CPU performance much, but what it does do is it takes all the heat from the CPU and sends it directly out the top of the case, so it doesn't heat up anything else in the system. Which is still probably a very marginal benefit, but it's something.
Well, I've just installed my 7950x with a Dark Rock Pro 4 aircooler earlier today, and at idle it sits around 45-50 degrees celcius.. Right after I placed my order, I looked around a bit, tempering my anticipation, and was slightly concerned that almost all of the builds I saw being done with that CPU used beefy AIOs, and people talked as if air coolers are impossible to even think of using with it because "oh noo it'll throttle!!1one"..
But it works just fine. Sure when I load the CPU as heavily as I can, it hits the 95 degrees, and there is a drop of about 85hz (maybe I was a little lucky in the silicon lottery), but that's synthetic load testing.. 20 minute hammer test, which doesn't at all resemble the heaviest stuff i'm doing myself, which is at most around 5 minutes of heavy loads here and there maybe up to 10 minutes, and that doesn't even bring it to the throttle point, at most it hits around 80-85 before my actual work loads are done, and usually I'll start those and walk away to do some dishes or something, so by the time i'm back to review, it's back down to the 45-50 degree idle temp again, ready for another run. I'm well satisfied with the 7950x on air so far.
That got to be a bit of a longer comment than I intended.. anyway..
TLDR: big beefy air coolers work just fine all the way up to the 7950x, provided your workloads aren't long you won't even get to the point where you could feasibly 'notice' throttling :P
(My heavier workloads are mainly some occasional molecular/atomic simulations, lighter workloads being BLASTing some DNA/RNA sequences - I suspect video editors especially might want to plan cooling solutions for longer workload runs)
Yes it does, it gets hot enough where I live. But the 7950X's 105W eco mode is where it's at.
To keep my 7950x under control, I set a maximum thermal limit of 85 C and set the PBO curve optimizer to undervolt by 10 mA on all cores (I didn't test going any lower, but I could potentially save more power/heat that way). I'm getting the same scores in cinebench as stock, but it never gets over 85 C. It keeps the fans from lifting off like a jet too.
yeah, the problem is not really the 95c temp of the CPU
it's more the speed of the fans of the cooler which are causing issues. too loud.
the fan curves are design to keep our CPU at a lower temp, new fan curves are required now.
but yeah, CO can do a great job.
we'll have to check the next bios updates, certainly some enhancement coming
Can always manually set fans or make a custom curve
@@willgart1 the IHS is twice as thick as last series, that's the problem. They should of made the chip so a simple IHS design would cover all the SMD hardware instead of what they did.
@@willgart1 I plan to just manually set my max fan speed to around 40%. In gaming it should never hit it. in rendering I will lose a few 100 mhz but my system stays quiet. So yeah, new fan curves ftw.
@@chaon93 check the SkatterBencher channel
you'll see a lot of details on overclocking these beasts 🙂
Well explained.
So you're saying the Integrated Heat Spreader (IHS) diffuses or um... spreads heat?
Is the mass of the 7k IHS more than the 5k one? I haven't seen numbers on it, but have heard people comment on it qualitatively as "hefty" for the overall CPU when they were first unboxing a 7k chip. That mass could explain the soak time for the first few seconds of a benchmark when coming up to temp.
Thx for your video, really thx
just bough a Ryzen 5 7600x , with Corsair H100 capelix XT , and rise above 80 in game.... I immediatly shut down the PC and put more thermal paste than just the AIO corsair had, got 50 in Windows, something like 75 in game now, apparently , if I understand correctly ur video, it's correct for this kind of CPU , Ryzen 7000 get hot quickly ...
I will just paid attention to it, but thx to show us, they just get hot in normal use, was thinking there was a problem 😁
Great info in this video! Thanks a lot! So, you lose ~5% in MT apps (and nothing in less stressful apps) with a 7950X using a $30 cooler vs a $200 cooler. A no problem to me then.
Got introduced to this problem with the 5800X, after extensive reading and finding the quote from the AMD engineer themselves that it was designed to do this, I admitted defeated and became content with the 90c it was hitting. I was able to get a NH-D15 and it made max under 80c now, AMD are just doubling down on this mindset with 7000.
It's just trying to boost as much as it can and any tweaks are at the cost of performance, so it all comes down to what you value more, temps or performance.
Yeah I've got a bad sample 5950X, combined with a board that seems to run it hotter still. I managed to compare it to someone else's in a smaller case with a smaller cooler, and it was 20C cooler at stock. PBO was even better without even needing core optimizer on theirs.
I have a 5800x and use Corsair h100i get 70°
@@g1984AF try it with prime95 smallFFT and tell us the temp :)
I was overthinking about if I should just use my ak400 or get a different one for my Ryzen 9 7900x with a 4060 Ti [ This really helped thank you ]
So the Optimum operating temperature is 82 deg c ?
Would it hurt the shelf life of AIO or cause water leakage, to have close to boiling water, example 95 deg c water, fluid flowing about in the rubber or plastic tubing and pump head ?
I hope the 8000 series doesn't accommodate for older coolers with artificial Z-height in the IHS. That and adjusting the values in the curve optimizer should give the respin lower temps with more boost headroom.
Makes me feel better. Rendered only a 2k video on a 7900x today and saw 81.4c max. Thought it was high but guess not.
@@NajiSibin thermaltake TH360 ARGB sync liquid cooler.
@@NajiSibin yeah I thought it was. Thought I built a hell of a machine but got scared seeing the temps. But again all good I think after seeing this. Can’t believe they have a max of 115°c
This Video helped me a lot man thank you. I redid my thermal paste and everything. 🤣😭
Just wait for the delid kits 20+ c reduction in temps we will again see new IHS hopefully thinner. Can't wait for derba8er delid and direct die frame.
So buy an additional load of kiddie designed expensive crap to fix an overheating, overpriced processor. Er, OK.
I can't even tell you how fantastic this video is from a practical perspective.
Ok that final analysis was what i needed (the gaming section). It seemed to me that the 7000 series just went straight to 95 no matter what it was up.. and i thought that kinda sucked, especially losing performance, unless you have the absolute best cooling. Knowing that they dont is assuring. Lol. I know it sounds silly, but from all the marketing id seen.. it just looked like the 7000 series went straight to thermal max and good luck to you. Haha
Ok so I’m a little confused. I have the Ryzen 5 7600x and a deepcool LT720. And any time I download a game or put any stress on the cpu it almost instantly shoots up to around 90 degrees Celsius. And even in some games it will shoot up to that point. But I’m curious if that’s normal or can I turn down the clock speed in bios and feel more relaxed.
Well done. Expertly explained. 1 Small thing you could have covered the eco mode settings. That makes it more of a nothing burger. 100% awsome.
hi thx a lot for that i have tried with my 5700g with cinebench r23 and it dropped from 4540 to 4040 surprising that this 5700g in benchmark scorses almost as much as my 3900x in my other gaming pc
And it's even better with undervolting and some motherboards integrated temperature limit options... 👍
Brilliant, this is exactly what I was wondering about and feel like everyone interested in the 7000 series should see this. Great piece, HC!