Watch This Before Buying the Intel i7 14700K!
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- If you want to buy the Intel i7 14700K, watch my review on it first. Intel 14th gen, or this i7 14700K is here! However, I feel that this Intel i7 14700K is a hit or miss. DO you want to know why? Watch my review of this Intel i7 14700k to find out!
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The performance is so close, it really is almost negligible. 99.9999% of people are not going to notice any difference in gaming between the i7 1400K and the 7800xd. Additionally, it remains to be seen which one will be more stable over time for various other pursuits outside of gaming like video and photo work. So far, I am getting better performance for non gaming tasks on the i7, but it's very close. I actually had to build two new PCs for my household and I built one AMD with the 78003xd and one with the Intel 14007k and I can say that there is very little difference in performance. Artificial benchmarks are cool, but real life performance is really good for both CPUs. I have also found much more headroom in my testing on the i7 in terms of over clocking so far. Definitely, if power is an issue, go with the 7800XD, otherwise, it's pretty much a wash.
Awesome point Sanctus17! Thank you for pointing this out. Yes i agree with the long term part of this. It would be a good experiment to see how of your 2 machines work after 1 or 2 years. What kind of tasks for you do?
Good morning. I do a lot of photo editing and video editing with the heavier load being on editing photos in Lightroom and Photoshop. I have definitely seen a slightly faster processing time using the 14700K when doing photo and video work, but the 7800XD is really close. With gaming, I can't really tell much of a difference unless I turn on the frame count monitor. When I do, and I leave the frame rate uncapped, I see a higher frame rate in most of my games on the 7800XD. I don't see as much of a difference as I have been reading about which is interesting. When I play Starfield on both PCs, the i7 outperforms the 7800XD, but again, the difference is slight and I would probably not notice with the stats off. The one thing that I find interesting is that my thermals are slightly better on the Intel CPU although I am using the same AIO. I have noticed a core temp variance of about 5 degrees Celsius which is admittedly minor, but flies in the face of the greater power efficiency of the 7800XD. I really think both are good solutions and will make any builder happy once they complete their rig. I would be happy with either one.@@RealMelTan
@@TheSanctus17 thanks for the testimony, I’m tied up picking between the two processors, your comment helped me decide that the i7 is probably the better choice for me
1st time Builder here and I’m just tryna buy my PC and do regular work/usage and game a little bit on there. What processor would you recommend for today ? Mind you I’ve been on console since I was a child haha
@@infinitymiddlefinger8957I'm also trying to build a new PC and am very confused which one to get, personally I prefer i7 because gaming is my second priority, but they say 14700 has some issues, and to my surprise didn't hear anyone says their 14700 has problem! Fking confusing! 😅
What I want to see is some benchmarks and temperature tests on the i7 14700 non K variant. There’s basically nothing on TH-cam about it and to me it seems like the better purchase having a 65 watt TDP, minimal difference performance wise, cheaper price and despite being locked down when it comes to overclocking, barely anyone overclocks these days anyway.
The non-k version just means that it is locked, that means it can't be overclocked. The k versions are unlocked but aren't overclocked yet, you still have to manually overclock it. All of that is firmware not hardware. So if its fresh out of the package both are the exact same cpu. If you don't plan on overclocking then get the non-k version.
@@Zivinthey’re actually not exactly the same. 5.4ghz vs 5.6ghz max turbo boost. 1.5ghz vs 2.5ghz efficient core base. 65w-219w vs 125w-253w. Apparently the K version has approximately 10% more performance but also runs hotter and draws more power. Haven’t seen many benchmarks unfortunately but the way it’s looking, the non K version is the better purchase due to its efficiency . Read that that it’s also binned better too.
Its funny to me how all those TH-camrs are like "the difference between 13th Gen and 14th Gen" isn't worth it." and here I am, extremely happy I paid 40€ more to upgrade from 4th Gen to 14th Gen instead of 13th Gen 😂
damn man, 4th to 14th! i am sure u will be extremely happy hahahaha
@@RealMelTan well not yet, bought a Mainboard that does not support 14th Gen prior to a bios update and has no USB BIOS flashback.
But I will enjoy it starting Monday.
To anyone reading this, there are quite alot ASUS Mainboards below the $300 threshold that got an LGA 1700 but are not compatible with 14th Gen prior to a BIOS update, to get that running you either need a 12th or 13th Gen CPU or pay money again at a tech store to let them do it.
So be careful with your build, don't be like purplehain 😂
Most MSI got USB Flash Back, so with those you likely have an easier time than me to upgrade your BIOS.
Flashback works pretty well, but you can always grab one of the new GB Aorus X boards that come ready for 14th Gen out of the box. I got a ROG Strix board initially, but now I am saving that for another build and I went with the GB Elite X for my new 14th Gen i7. At 300 or less, it is probably my current favorite board for 14 gen@@Purplehain
what WC models do you recomend for the I7 14700K? its for rendering, working, not games.
Great review but you can't compare the temps if the intel is using a 360mm AIO and the AMD is using a 240.
I just bought this CPU today. Now I'm enjoying full speed fan noise and insane heat waves coming out from my PC case. I guess liquid cooling won't help.
Look at Jayz2Cents video on undervolting. You should be able to set an undervolt, lose zero performance, but significantly reduce the heat generated. A big problem is alot more power is being delivered to the chips than is actually needed. His video was done with 11th Gen but I'm sure the same still applies. Basically brought the temps of the CPU cores in cinebench from the high 80's to 60's under full load.
@@tsdobbi I'm very sorry for asking and possibly rudeness, but do even understand what are you talking about? Undervolting without performance loss? It's the same you pee in your car's tank and still be able to drive it without performance loss, my dear friend.
Now here are some basics and my experience of undervolting. -0.03V for 14700k causing 10% performance loss. Limiting turbo boosts from 253/135 watts to 110/110 and core turbo ratios to 42 from 55-56 gives you the same 10% performance loss but temperatures not over 63-68 degrees. That's what I did after multiple tests and wasting tons of my precious time for this fkd up ancient 10nm CPU sold by scamming Intel.
I'm curious what ur rooms ambient temp is, like ur cooling system can only do so much if ur in a already hot room.what are u cooling it with now, air, aio or custom loop?
@@def-po8tu I live in tropical county, so without air-conditioner the temperature in my room is about 29-30 degrees 🥵
I'm still using old Zalman x9 performa black with limiting turbo boost power to 110/110 and all cores turbo ratios to x39 or 3900mhz. Lost about 14% performance, but CPU temperature never goes over 66-68 degrees.
I just tried 14700 and I will return it. It eats power and overheats. I was able to cool it properly with a new 280mm liquid cooler and 2 new 140mm high pressure fans. Now it runs without power limits, but I still dislike it. I will be going back to my 12900, it is so much easier to cool.
IMO if you are building a new PC from scratch then buy it, or wait for the new intel release because i have a feeling they will release it next year or 2025. There's also AMD's 7k series and it's a more sensible buy TBH. But if you already have the 12th or 13th gen, then this 14th gen is just a waste of sand, I mean money.
Yup! AMD 7k is definitely a good option. But if you are just gaming, even a 5000 is good enough, or a 12th gen as i mentioned. I even think 13th gen is good enough
I’m coming from 8700k. So I could either upgrade to 12th, 13th, or this 14th gen. I chose the later
well , clear straight to the point talking. Good review :)
Thank you Tommy! In your opinion, what else do I need to improve on?
I have a 13600K and a 4080 for my main gaming rig in 4K 120 FPS. Maybe in a year or 2 I may get the 14700K.
Yes I think your 4080 will be your main powerhouse for 4k gaming. So the CPU upgrade is only required after a few years. Unless you plan to play in 1080P?
@@RealMelTanI plan to build and use a 4080 with a i7 14700k is that a good pairing ? Or should I pair it with the i7 13700k (I play call of duty/warzone only) I’m a performance hog and I also rather play in 1080p for the increase in frames. Any advice pls?
I can't speak to the 4080, because no way am I shelling out what they want for one of those, but I can say the 14700 pairs well with my 3080...I'll trade...lol@@adriannn413
@@adriannn413Compare it to the i9 13900k, also even though I assume you’re going to be using it gaming rather than other task, what other tasks do you usually have on like music, discord etc?
14700k great pairing with 4080@@adriannn413
WHat about studios? For photo editing, even using older CS6 Photoshop and Lightroom6 (All non-cloud versions). You should consider this market that by default we often follow gamer channels, but, like Tech Notice has made a huge difference, but he is only 1 when there are 100s of gamer channels.
i nearly went with 14600k untill i realised 14700 is almost 14900 with 4 less efficiency cores which is insane considering its 100 more than 14600 but 200 less than 14900 thats just crazy performance for the price with 8 perf cores and 12efficiency cores
Please include the 1% lows in gaming scenarios. Those are the most important thing for esport games.
Im curious, is the 7800X3D good for daily use like streaming? for games its insane but say u stream and watch vids at the same time then do a lil video editing. Which would be best, cause i see so many confusing responses.
Intel is better for all around experience
I would say the 7800X3D is really for gaming. You could definitely multi task, but it would not compare to an Intel or non X3D Ryzen CPU
I have both builds and they are both good, but I would give an edge to Intel for stability, performance and compatibility with video and photo apps. For example, even in low level stuff like lightroom work, I have crashed a couple times on the 3xd, but so far never on the 14 gen i7. Of course there are a lot of factors like RAM, other software, cooler, MB, etc, but I lean more towards my Intel build for video and photo work. That being said, you would be fine if you used a 3XD, I just find the Intel CPU to be slightly more stable so far.
I'm wondering if recent Intel CPU releases are mostly to avoid losing market share to AMD.
Before Ryzen, Intel had effectively monopolized the CPU market, so didn't see AMD as a threat, as they had a small market share which wasn't growing. Consequently, while there appeared to be consumer choice, most buyers actually opted for Intel.
However, since Ryzen released, AMD is becoming a more popular gaming or budget choice, while Intel are suffering from problems, but if they admit this, by not releasing a new CPU each year, then they risk losing sales to AMD, so they rebrand and release as much as possible, forcing AMD to do likewise and it becomes a vicious circle, with each of them releasing new CPUs for marketing reasons.
Can the 7800x3d temp be compared with the intel ? Considering your using 360aio vs 240aio
Rtx 4070 super , Core i7 14700k
Ddr5 6Khz(2x16gb) , PowerSupply asus tuf 850w , Msi B760M , Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120EE , Samsung 980pro 1TB. Its good build or no can u help me???
Technically yes, but I would get a 1000w PSU instead to A) give room for power consumption spikes. B) Let the PSU last longer by not stressing it to its near max all the time C) Future proof.
4070 Super uses a lot of power on its own and with the 14700k uses 300-ish watts on intensive loads I would just pay the extra $10-15 on getting 1000w instead of 850w to make myself feel better.
This guy doesn’t tell you the most important thing, this POS cpu is extremely trash out the box. You will need to undervolt and pray your cooler can keep up. I’ve had problems for weeks with this cpu and still unstable
Yes sorry for that and thank you pointing that out. Because it takes so much power, i always use a 360 for this cpu n other intel going forward.
in multi tasking, it rocks. WE use the cpu for more than gaming
Set Wattage limits in bios dooood! You DID OC the 14700k you just did not know it. You let your bios turn off cpu wattage limiter. Its not suppose to exceed 254watts
I am so confused! I am building a new PC, with an 4080 super card. Cant decide between rysen 7800x3d and i7. In my mind, the i7 is the better overall choice, but that power usage is crazy! But on the other hand, it is really annoying to browse slower, extrac files etx with the ryzen.. Have thought about this for days now 😛
Also ordered 4080S with i7 14700K.
Don't worry about power usage. You won't be running 250W non-stop, assuming you'd go for 1440p.
Intel is the better experience and future proof for video editing/business work etc.
Hello. Very good and informative video. Thanks for keeping it short! I want to upgrade from i7-9700k to a i7-14700k for gaming. In germany the price diffrence from 13700k to 14700k is 33€. Should i buy the 14700 to save more money in the futrue or should i go with the 13700. i just want to game i am not gonna use it for render or something else. My mainboard is the NZXT N5 Z690 (LGA 1700, Intel Z690 (DDR4). 32GB 3200mhz Ram and Nvidia 3070.
I went with 14700k from 9700k. Made the desktop more snappy, no regrets
What did you end up buying?
Just nabbed a 14700K an hour ago for $375, upgrading from a 9700KF. Not feeling disappointed!
mine from i5 haha just cope a bundle micro center
@@marvin6119 same here
im still on a 2600X :(
Do my 30$ 6 pipes air cooler is enough to cool this 14700K?
Is this overclocked? Because the point of intel cpus is overclocking them and the memory, it will surpass the amd card
Hey Abrioso, these are out of the box frequencies n power loads. I did not OC any part of the CPU, except for turning DOCP (XMP) on. Perhaps I should try to OC the CPU?
@@RealMelTan thanks for the clarification!
if im on the LGA 1700 socket should i go with a new mother board and get the amd cpu or what cpu should i get in that socket?
The LGA 1700 is the newest socket for Intel CPUs, ONLY Intel CPUs. You can use Intel's 12th, 13th, and 14th gen CPUs with that socket. The 2 CPUs in the video being compared will both work for your motherboard. The 13700k is a 13th gen intel i7 CPU. The 14700k is a 14th gen intel i7 CPU.
do i really need water cooling for i714700 and rtx 4070 super?
If you want it to not throttle then yes, especially if you get a k model and overclock it. You can put it under an air cooler, but it wont be running at boost speeds very long.
im going from i7 930 to 14700 so worth it for me lol
This is my first PC to build and the chip fits my budget. Intel did a tremendous job with this i7 14700K
Wow! Thats nice! U always wanted to try intel?
Huh? 'tremendous'' sure bud.. sure.
@@RealMelTan I have been in research and have 2 master in technology. I am going in data science and deep learning in cybersecurity. Of course, I chosen Intel.
what is this comparison??? so many of these graphs were gpu bound not cpu a 4070 is not pushing the limit of either this cpus in most tests.
AMD 7800x3d has a far lower heat and power rating...
Yup that's true. You do need a lot more power for the 14700K.
These benchmarks are so incredibly wrong. Lmao.
I do need help with the benchmarks. What is your advice to improve on it?
I want to build a pc for streaming and gaming at the same time maybe also for content creation with the 4070 32g of ram but i dont know if i should take the 7800x3d or the 14700kf maybe you can help me
I do not really recommend any of the KF CPUs. I know u can save a bit more going for the one without built in graphics, but The Intel IGPU (built in graphics) does give it some advantage in apps like Photoshop n Premiere Pro. The 7800X3D is really good for gaming, but i wont say for content creation compared to the Intel or non X3D counterparts. If you can afford, go for the 14700k (non F)?
But whats your budget?
@@RealMelTan Why not KF CPUs? I'm looking at a new prebuilt pc with RTX4080 16gb and can't decide between i7-14700KF or i9-14900KF. I don't game at all and only do professional creative work. What do you think is best of these CPUs above?
I had my 14700 KF peak at 310W in Cinebench 2024 and spike to 340W in one of the CPU tests in Passmark's Performance Test. Went and lowered PL1, PL2 and max current in the BIOS (all set more or less to "unlimited" with stock settings) and also lowered the "CPU Lite Load" setting quite a bit. AFAIK, this is an MSI-only feature (or at least the name is) which will add more voltage under load to increase stability. Default setting on my board was "9" - I lowered it to 5 and left it there - I didn't try anything lower, but I might be able to get away with that. Others with identical configs report reducing this to to 3 or 2 while still retaining stability.
All these changes resulted in max VIDs going down from ~1.45V to ~1.36V in all-core, 100% loads like Cinebench 24. Power draw is also a lot lower now as is heat. Benchmark scores only "suffered" very mildly from this - the loss in scores is so little that it might actually be within margin of error/normal variance between tests. Since this means I won't have to immediately upgrade my 240 AiO, I'll leave the settings like that for now. Performance is still way better than my old 12600K.
OH nice! Thank you for the update and instructions.
Yes I don't see any simple way or "CPU lite load"on the ASUS motherboard. But there's an ECO mode, perhaps thats the one which may reduce the power draw n temps for the 14700K.
How hot is your CPU with your new settings?
@@RealMelTan Day to day (gaming, normal work, browsing the web, etc), it's very manageable. Neither BG3 Act III nor IL-2 in VR on a Reverb G2 raise temps to anything worrying - in those situations it's usually around mid 50s to mid/high 60s on a few P-cores, with highest power draw usually between 50 and 75W. Loads like Cinebench are a different matter of course, but it's still acceptable (just) for the occasional test-run.
EDIT: Crap.. looked at the wrong results-screenshot. Recorded max temps with the reduced settings were between 78 and 88°C on the P-cores in Cinebench 2024, with P-core frequency peaks between 5.5 and 5.6 GHz. Max power-draw was 243 W. I'd say that 240mm AiO *just* manages at these settings.
Still: I don't think cooling is ideal and I wouldn't recommend a 240 to someone building a new system around the 14700K, but since I don't use this chip in high load, all-core work outside the occasional benchmark or rendering a video, I'm not too worried about the 240. I do see a 360 in my future though - if only to check how much of a difference it makes. But I do wonder if even that would be capable of dealing with 310 to 340 W of power draw ... :)
I'm happy to hear you say that. I just ordered a 14700k and was kind of nervous if my arctic liquid freezer ii 240 would be enough. It is one of the best 240s with the thick radiator but still a little nervous.
However it cools my 13600k exceptionally well and maintains 5.1ghz for all 10 minutes of cinebench, not throttling whatsoever. Not that I care about cinebench, just testing my coolers effectiveness. But what I really want from the 14700k is that extra cache, the extra p cores and the extra boost clocks for gaming.
What do you think about disabling some ecores to save power/lower temps. I get that they're helpful for background tasks and what not but somehow I doubt I need 12 cores to run chrome while I game. Perhaps 4, or 8 would be enough?
@@jessefisher1809 I haven't tried it yet, but from all I gather from guides/how-tos, the E-cores aren't really necessary in gaming. Might as well give disabling them a shot to see if they reduce power-draw/heat and by how much.
Having played around with power-settings a bit more (this time using Intel XTU for added convenience), I *think* what really did it on my board was lowering that VCore/VID offset setting ("CPU Lite Load" on my MSI board). Default was "9" and I reduced it to "5" for the time being. Left it there and then upped the power limits and current limit into territory that before would've resulted in temps near 100°C and power-draw of ~300W and .... everything stayed within reasonable values that time. VIDs still maxed out in the mid 1.3V-range, not in the mid 1.4V range they had reached with higher PLs and the "Lite Load" setting at default.
I would also definitely give it a shot with that Arctic Freezer of yours. AFAIK, that's one of the best overall and bang-for-buck AiOs currently out there and I always see it ranked towards the very top in most round-ups I've seen. Just don't expect it to be quiet at max load... my Lian Li Galahad 240's fans will spin up to over 2000 rpm at max and they do reach that speed when I run Cinebench or something like that. OTOH and as I've wondered before: I'm not sure you'd be able to run even a 360's fans at anything lower than 100% speed with a 100%, all-core load on the CPU, either.
@@1SaG Thanks. I have my fingers crossed that undervolting works for me. Kind of a long story but with my mobo I need to use a workaround that gigabyte put in there and nobody seems to know if it will work with 14th gen, even gigabyte themselves.
What is pointless is people who think they need to upgrade every year.😅
I was there. Wanting thst yearly dream +20% bench fix.
Now I upgrade evry 5-7years and i enjoy my 300% fix😂😂😂
Yes hahah, u make a good point. And this is the last generation on the LGA 1700 platform. I haven't upgrade in a while though :(
What CPU are u using now?
@@RealMelTan
8700k😅 in a HTPC with 3070FE
For some light gaming and frame interpolation when watching movies.
Got the itch now because I saw a cool Silverstone Gd11 case and I think I can mod and hack the hell out of it for some watercooled 14 series goodness.🙂
you should if you can afford it ;)@@smetljesm2276
I used to upgrade almost every Generation too... P4 > Athlon 64 4200+ > e8400 > i7-920.... but then I stopped at the 3930k. Haswell-E & Broadwell-E, Nah. Skylake-X.... nope... then I upgraded to the E5-1680 v2. Not super long after Alder Lake came out I won a newegg shuffle along with a discount on a 12900k/z690 Strix motherboard/DDR5-6000 RAM and I went for it. The 1680 v2 was hanging in there, but overall lga1700 has been a good upgrade.
Since 14th Gen Meteor Lake's cancellation for the desktop, Intel should've focus their energy on releasing 15th Gen Arrow Lake in 2023 and not waste time on Raptor Lake Refresh or better yet, don't release anything until Q4 2024 if they're not ready. The i5 15600k or 15600 non-k version would've been an interesting budget option for Y2023. Intel just had to put something out there in the market to make the moolah. 😅😅
yup u make a lot of sense, this refresh is just a filler i guess. I think they feel the pressure to release something every year now. But Arrow lake may not have been ready for this year
Arrow Lake is on the new 20A node.....Intel's version of 5nm. But..... Intel is still not ready for that one yet.
@@m8x425 Why i'm still holding on to my 4th Gen Haswell i7 4790k in 2023.🙂
Thank you for the video, this shows how trash the 7800x3d is. Trivial fps difference and very poor for productivity. 14700k all day.
Thank you for your support! But I guess it is also a matter of longevity. AM5 would stay for a while longer than LGA 1700. Unless Intel gonna make some magic, if you want 15th gen, you will need to change mobo for example.
@@RealMelTan people always say that “upgrade path” when i dont know a single person that upgrade cpu every generation. Its a weird concept when people tend to upgrade gpu far more often than cpu. I myself upgrade a cpu every 4-5 years and sometimes more. Im just saying, longevity of socket is nearly irrelevant as far as im concerned.
Yup it differs from person to person. It's like a person who always chases after the newest tech gadget@@justanobody4983
Just bought 14700k to upgrade my PC from 8700k. In my country there is 10 euros difference between 13th gen and 14 th gen i7. So no way 13th gen. And 7800x3d is good 4 1080p gaming. Who use that resolution anymore? :D
10 euros? wow nice! mine's at least $80 in difference. 7800X3D does not bad at 1440p too hha
I am not sure, do people playing fast paced fps (like CS GO) game in 1080p or 1440p these days?
NO POINT WATCH , BEST CPU , FOR TODAY
Thank you for the best comment :) This CPU is indeed powerful
If you will explain how to decrease temperature from 90-100 to at least 70-75 then I'll be a very happy person, because now I'm having 90-100 in games.
@@VYM SOME WRONG , TRAY CHANGE AGEN THERMO PASTE , OR YOU MEYBE FORGET TAKE OUT FROM COOLER PLASTIC
@@monacocross4241 very funny, bro, thank you for your reply. I guess I forgot to take out the CPU from the paper box 😂
@@VYM from cooler were thermo paste meybe forget take off seal
It's tough. It's really price to performance for most. I just did a build for a friend got an open box 14700kf $100 less than a 7800x3d I basically had no choice. He's hoping to stream and edit video so it's not a bad match especially for the deal.
🚀Building my first gaming rig and content creation powerhouse! with i7 14700 on MSI Z90 board
Is it ok for 14700kf on a b760m motherboard with 3200mhz ram? Will it affects too much performance?
same question here
@@Manos_Assa I already tested this combo and benchmark it and it says lower like 5-10% of performance than average i7 14700kf build, I would recommend save more money and getting a cheap z790 motherboard and a ddr5 ram
I am in the process of buying a new system for productivity. I am stuck between 13600k and 7700x or 7700 and 13500. It is important that it remains stable and does not overheat. What is your suggestion? Are non-3D Ryzen models as stable as Intel ones?
when it over heats clocks speeds fall down .. I saw in other videos I7 is acting like i5 after falling clock speeds due to heat .. so this is serious issue .. powered users have to care about .. on top of that power drawing is too much on intel .. My self I am intel user all theser years .. now I really have to think about amd :(
The 20 core can be good if you play one game and then side load another afk game while screen share in discord and then watching TH-cam with out losing much performance
Yes you are right. But it also depends on what games you play?
But i think most games do not use that many cores anyway, and most of the work is done by the GPU.
How many cores does OBS use?
need 40 cores for tarkov lol
@@RealMelTan forexample I usually play war thunder while tarkov on the second monitor for crafting and then TH-cam playback on third with discord watching other friends stream and I turn on streaming my self. I currently having a duo Intel Xeon Platnium 8173m setup, compare with my old build which is a Ryzen 9 3950x 16core, although the single game performance is a little lower, but multitasking performance is way better then before. In this use case I think the 14700k can benefit this kind of use case as well because the number of extra e core it has
@@man1cs171 56core 112threads for tarkov 👀
Great video! I'm a game developer, currently using an old i7 4770, need an upgrade now. Would this 14700k be the best option? Building all frkm scratch. Thanks
Thank you Jacobs! Before that, may i ask what is your budget? and what GPU are u using?
@@RealMelTan hey, I have the same cpu and want to upgrade as well. The only better component from my pc currently is the 5700 xt gpu, which I want to keep for now, but change later on. I have a budget of around 1000 usd to get a motherboard, cpu, cpu cooler and ssd. Would you recommend this cpu or what alternatives would I have with am5 ?
@RealMelTan thanks for the reply. Currently using a RX590 and I won't upgrade GPU as it's great for testing optimization on low end devices (our target systems). Budget I can go up to 1k usd, almost same scenario as alex (need cpu + motherboard + water cooler + memory).
I gotta add, that 4770 is an awesome CPU. I can say that on my intel build, I got a big jump from the 10th Gen to the 14th gen in terms of performance. I think if you want to save a little cash and still get a huge boost in performance from the still awesome 4770, you could go 13th or even 12th Gen. Other than all the details people like me will argue with, it's hard to go wrong with these 1700 CPUs, especially for overall system performance and stability. I would recommend a good AIO cooler though.
@@TheSanctus17 it’s funny in my country the 13700k is the same price as the 14700k
I'm still on i5-3570 from 2012...
how is it going?
@@RealMelTan my Intel i5-4670K works fine till this day. but looking for replacement.
For someone in my shoes, it’s $70 USD off, and compared to my 12900F, the 14700 is better in all specs except for thermals, and wattage.
Thats good! Hopefully we see better thermals n power use with next gen :)
What if i have 9700k? Would it be good upgrade?
I think it would be a big upgrade?
yes i did! but again do you want it now is the question.
I appreciate that you're doing this testing with an RTX 4070 and not a 4090 like everyone else is. A lot of these armchair PC builders think the CPU performance you get with a High End GPU will be the same no matter what GPU you're using.
hahah thank you man! Appreciate your support and care on this part. Yes i figured out a mid to high end CPU should go with a mid to high end GPU?
bbought my i7 13700kF brand new from local for $300..>I am happy.....was going to spend 400 for the 14700KF.....no need...
Yes good point, esp if you are gonna upgrade to something else in the future. Did you change your mobo?
im coming from the 12600k and i just want the final upgrade for the lifetime of my motherboard.
What's your budget ? haha
Then get the 14900k
are you planning to live 4 years bud
@@Raikas No
The CPU that doesn't make sense is the barely changed i5 14600k over the i5 13600k. 13600k is the same thing but cheaper. 14700k actually gains an additional 4 cores and threads over the 13700k
POV: you just bought a 14700k
If i don't want to overclock or don't want to get hot temperature by 14700k, can i buy non-k CPU of 14700 ? Please help me to get suggestions from u that i am planning to have desktop PC in my bedroom to have mid range not very expensive, but somehow in speed, multitask speed to choose i7 series. My main purpose to do for phtoshop, for video editing generally in 2k resolution atleast, for gaming like military action games like call of duty and other advanced gun fighting games, fast video conversion, have good protection in motherboard, and overall protection. So i don't want high watts consuming in CPU, also in graphics card too. So if i choose 14700(not k) or 13700 with 4070 dual fan or three fan of graphics card , also z790 motherboard to have advanced features than 760 , is it okay for motherboard?
Plz tell ur opinion or suggestion by my above purpose?
But non k cpus are stripped of this possibility for purpose. They are worse chips which are very hot and overvoltaged to remain stable.
@@adrs2oh oh...but i see intel specifications in these models K, KF have both Processor Base Power is 125W, Maximum Turbo Power is 253W, but non-k, F says less power 65W & 219W.
I didn't understand how non-K is overvoltaged to remain stable ?! Plz help me to understand why non-k is overvoltaged to remain stable by any other sources in youtube or in other websites to understand better for me?
@@arulprakash2000You can undervolt the K chips to get better performance per watt. Go for the K. Even if you don’t plan on overclocking.
@@adrs2 why are They are worse chips which are very hot and overvoltaged to remain stable?
How is your fps so high, im on 14700k, ddr4 mobo and 6900xt and i dont think i hit any 300fps kn cs2 😂😂😂(1440p)
I’m upgrading fine my 8700k. Do I get the 13700k or 14700k?
What is your budget? If you can afford it, the 14700k. If not, the 13700K would be a slightly cheaper alternative. If you want to upgrade and get something now, I would choose the 13700k.
@RealMelTan do u think a 420mm aio will keep the 14700k cool enough
13700k and 14700k were the same price, so i went with the 14700k 🤷♀️
1080p is so 2020
well some gamers still want the highest fps in games such as Valorant or CS. But i could be wrong, may be they are playing at 1440p or even 4k res now?
@@RealMelTan true
14700K ONLY, 14700KF got time more of cut video problem
I seen this literally get same fps against i9 13900k and cpu intensive games specially running at 5.8 it looks good, disabling hyper thread and ecores can also give good performance with good temps
Asus Prime B760m Ddr5 motherboard , 16 gb ddr5 Ram, Cooler Master 240 mm, Rtx4060 ti 16 gb gpu,700 w Zalman psu enough 14700k?
Is there a good guide for tweaking the z790e gaming wifi with the i7 14700 k cpu for best overall performance
How do I cool it?!?! It runs so hotttttttt. Came from a 6900 and the 14700k was the same price as 13th gen, rightly so XD
I’m on a 7800x3d platform currently. Yes gaming is amazing. But for stability reasons, I am going back to intel. I cannot stand the random 5 second freezing that occurs that lock up the pc and longer boot time. I have changed hardware and drivers yet same issues occur for me. Maybe i just had bad luck
But what if im upgrading from a 5820K and building a nrw computer after 10 years?
@ 3:51 Thank you for the permanent ear damage.
Hallo... I'm running a i7 12700K with an Asus Z690-A gaming wifi ddr4 motherboard. Do you think its worth upgrading the processor or should i just upgrade to ddr5 motherboard instead?
Just wait for 15th gen intel no need to upgrade really.
Installing mine tomorrow. Coming from i8700k (non overclocked). Got a great deal on the CPU for $235 plus RAM & Mobo sold in kit. My 8700k was showing its age in photo editing. No plans to game and pairing it with 2080.
What? wow man! How did u get this CPU for just 200 plus ? damn
Do a review for my i7 4770 please.
Built my 1st with nzxt is 4070 super with this cpu good? For 1st build
Wong tam
Can a 240mm aio cool a 14700k ? My graphics card is the 4070ti super, it will only be used for gaming
Depends on the cooler and mounting. I would go with a 360, I heard of problems using new i7s under 240mm AIOs. Use a contact frame as well, may not be needed but I've read they can help, again depending on how the AIO is mounted. These CPUs tend to run hot. If you cant use a 360 you could always try undervolting it. I have a 12600k slightly overclocked under a 360 AIO and a 4070. Getting really good FPS at 1440p with temps never over 70 degrees while gaming, do see 75 degrees when benchmarking though.
@@stephenhood2948 i got the 360 nzxt aio, i am running the 4070ti super with the i7 and everyone has been saying the 240 mm aio would be fine but the safer and smarter option is the 360, thank you!!
Does this count for the 14700kf too?
I dont think so!hardcore gaming is for that cpu for sure!just choosing which motherboard for it!
in your opinion is an aircooler like Deepcool Ak620 enough for the 13700K or 14700K?
From personal experience with my Lian Li Galahad 240 AiO: The 14700K (KF in my case, but same thing, really) runs very hot when you leave the power limits on stock settings. AFAIK, a lot of boards (mine included) are set to unlimited PL1/2 and current out of the box. As I've stated in my own post here, I saw power draw peak at 340 Watts with this thing and PL1/2 set to 4096W. No OCing, BTW, outside of XMP and letting the board send as much power to the CPU as it wants. My AiO couldn't prevent temps hitting the red zone (100°C) on two or three cores during my runs in Cinebench. With limits lowered and the chip "only" peaking at 255W power draw, that Lian Li manages to keep things in the mid 80s. In gaming or simpler tasks, all this shouldn't be an issue, but if you plan on running this chip in high load/all-core scenarios a lot, I probably wouldn't use an air-cooler. In fact: With no limits set in the BIOS, I'm not even sure a 360 AiO would be able to keep temps under control in super high load scenarios. Can't prove it since I don't have a 360 available, but 310 to 340 Watt is a bit of a challenge for any cooling solution, I reckon.
thank you @1SaG for the reply! Yes i agree with him. With the power draws and temperatures for both CPUs, I would recommend at least a 240 for the 13700K. The 14700K, a higher end 240 or 360 AIO would be better.
@@1SaG Thanks a lot for your thorough advice 😌
@@RealMelTan Thank you 😁
I agree with the posters here. I use a 360 Coolermaster AIO for my 14th gen i7
In your opinion if im trying to build a high end gaming pc now with a rtx 4080 then should I purchase the 7800x3d or go for the intel cpus if so which one?
It depends. If all you do is game, probably the 7800x3d. Care about power efficiency? 7800x3d. Do a lot of multitasking? Probably the 14700k, thought both would be fine. Do you do productivity work? Definitely 14700k. Care about high speed ddr5 compatibility? 14700k. Care about longevity of the platform? 7800x3d. Both are good gaming choices, both with their ups and downs.
Alright thank you good to know!@@jessefisher1809
@@jessefisher1809 hey bro, when it comes to multitasking when you brought up 14700k, specifically what multitasking? Like running multiple apps at the same time like chrome, media player, a game, etc?? I dont use those apps like vray or cinebench
@@dathip Yeah most general computing multitasking should go better on a 14700k because of all the extra cores.
The 7800x3d is absolutely the best at gaming. But only when its just gaming. When you have chrome, and discord, and your anti-virus, and a windows update running and whatever else, while you're gaming, the 14700k would do better.
But of course it also draws more energy, now that can be lessened to a degree by undervolting and or setting in place intel's recommended power limits. Still the 7800x3d will use less power.
I guess would say like, if all you care about is gaming, go 7800x3d, but if you want general computing + gaming at the same time, intel may be way the way to go.
And no you don't need to run cinebench for this to matter. I agree that benchmark is pretty unrealistic.
ok sorry Im getting a z790 motherboard 1700 lga. And to reply to your comment
"When you have chrome, and discord, and your anti-virus, and a windows update running and whatever else, while you're gaming, the 14700k would do better."
Yeah that is exactly me. I have discord, chrome, updates downloading the background, sometimes manually installing game drivers, etc, game in the background, its better to go 14700k?
@@jessefisher1809
What a mess. Get your shit and graphs right! Good luck!
Hello! May I ask which graphs and which numbers I can improve on ? thank you.
All of them. Slow down by about a .5 sec. Let viewers see your results. Good luck bud! Hope your channel gets big.@@RealMelTan
Almost bought the 14700k. Good thing I watched this video first. it is ridiculous for a desktop CPU to consume that much power and to require AIO as a minimum for cooling.
Well I think that's how CPUs of this range are gonna be going forward? I'm not sure.