V8 Foxbody Mustang gets Vibrant Aluminum Exhaust
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ค. 2024
- This exciting episode has a guest fabricator: Mark Gentile from Proper Fabrications. It was great to have Mark come by Vibrant Head Office and give some insight on some of the tips and tricks he has to offer with his 20 years of fabrication on automotive exhaust and automotive metal fabrication. In this episode, he builds a completely Aluminum exhaust system using some NOS Vibrant Performance Aluminum Mufflers that have long been discontinued. Should we bring these back? Let us know in the comments!
Catch the next episode early next week, where we will have Kashus show you how to build and assemble PTFE Lines and which Fittings are the right ones for the application.
Time Stamps:
0:00 Introduction
4:00 Header Modification
12:36 Exhaust Fabrication
14:00 Creating Turndowns
15:41 Mocking up the Exhaust
16:48 Finishing Touches
17:03 Exhaust Review
18:49 Sound Clips
19:39 Outro
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I definitely want to hear a version with an X or H pipe
Having no H or X cross over makes it sound weird
SMH...sound.
I agree and loss of power
@@chezeface1142 I’d like to see proof of that
@@mogulme6190 right here
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@CHEZEFACE no loss of power.I run all my old Ford v8 engines like that and they make big torque and power.
X pipe would sound awesome. On another note, never ever use rags on a bandsaw. Ever. That's the most perfect way I've ever seen to lose some fingers. You're watching your cut, not the rag. The rag is moving with the work piece (towards the blade). When the blade grabs the rag, and it will, it's gonna take both your thumbs with it. Go get some ABS plastic cut in 2 and fasten it to your table and leave it there for whatever you're cutting. Sounds pretty good, good looking welds too, but expect your floorboards to be flaming hot due to heat transfer from the aluminum.
and never ever wear gloves on any rotating machinery!! make a push stick
I saw what you're saying about the rags that could've ended badly for him really quick and if I were him instead of using rags why not sit the piece of metal that you are cutting on a piece of 2x4 long enough your fingers are away from the blade safely and just have the saw cut the metal and the wood at the same time unless the blade is strictly for metal or strictly for wood then that's the only way that won't work but if it's a universal blade you would be able to do that
@@keefespencer1173 aluminum is soft enough that wood blades on most cutting tools can be used on it, usually works better than metal blades because they get galled up by the aluminum often.
He told me directly it wouldn't get any type of crossover. "It was designed that way".
Hey, when he's ending the 1320 @ 8,200RPM in a 302ci SBF.....he's got his mind set on what he's doing.
I doubt that lol
Thanks to Vibrant for making this old girl look so good on camera 😅! Our products are truly phenomenal!
What's the part # to the mufflers? I want my 71 Ford Maverick and 302 to sound like that!!! Amazing!
So glad to see you kept the 79 to 82 tail lights!!!
You should put some nitrous on the car and get it into the 9s but low 10s for an N/A stick shift car is pretty damn good especially for it to be full weight and everything and I think you should go to @Old Man's Garage on TH-cam and call out his Malibu he has a 79 Malibu with a 421cid nitrous SBC in it and his is also a daily driver and it is full weight full interior and has heat and A/C and he drives it on a daily as well and I think it would be a good race between the two of you except he likes racing in the 8th mile
@@keefespencer1173 that would be badass! Nitrous is in the plans for this season. The Hoskinson’s are awesome people I would love to line up beside the Old Man’s Malibu
I loved your aluminum mufflers, please do bring them back!!!
Definitely taking this feedback to our product development team!
@@VibrantPerformanceTV nothing on this video mention why ALu was chosen? was it just light weight for drag racing, would it hold up to large milage? cheaper than TI?
18:13 the actual reason is that the motor is offset in the engine bay almost 2” to the passenger side to make room for the brake booster and steering linkage. That’s why one side is straight and the other is kicked in a little.
Nice to meet you Art! The 440 in my 93 Cobra is begging me to be more VIBRANT! Love your AN fittings and black braided hoses!!!! I build a few cars a year exclusively with VIBRANT.
Really happy to hear that feedback! It's always great to get feedback and suggestions on what else we should offer to our product line from customers, thanks again Arturo!
@@VibrantPerformanceTV I really like a lot of your products, and I'm sorry if I come across as harsh on other comments regarding the design choice of the system. I comment from a performance and design standpoint.
I have these exact same mufflers on my 394Ci 6.4L stroker Ram 1500, I used these to make my exhaust quieter.
That's an awesome old school Fox!😊
My mans with the MoMo steering wheel. This thing got class
I would say this sounds pretty good, and has some good practical benefits but have noticed for a long time that any longer Titanium, Aluminium exhausts, basically anything not on a bike or something with a layout like a Dune Buggy can run into big issues with rasp if that is a deal breaker. Can be mitigated with supports or added resonators, most of that sort of rasp comes from the literal pipe itself vibrating around a bit causing a knock on effect you hear all the way through the pipe (other more static cause would be if merge at headers is harsh, not very high quality, BMW syndrome.) High quality Stainless is heavier but consistently the cleanest sounding in this regard, feel free to look up identical engines with similar or practically same exhaust setup with normal Steel and Stainless if you don't believe me.
Great looking 4 eye fox.
First thing I noticed was no X or H pipe. Disappointed 😢It doesn’t sound like a Mustang but that is some nice welding for sure. Why wasn’t there an X pipe or H pipe? Just curious. I love the Weld wheels, they still look good to this day. Classic!
Sounds awesome.
Sounds good!
Adding an X pipe within 18" from the collectors gives the best sound hands down. Just saying
Have these with an X-pipe on my truck. Sounds ok, definitely not as good as the Borla ATAKs, but these mufflers are great for being quieter.
Cool build and car!
Last longer an weight reduction
I would love some vibrant mufflers to quiet down my q50 3.7 but not lose any performance. Any recommendations? And that foxbody is clean and sounds healthy!!!!
Going to be making a video on our videographer's Q50 3.5L in the very near future! Keep an eye out this summer on our channel and be sure to subscribe so that you don't miss out!
What is the point other than weight savings ? I'm genuinely curious. I love my SLP stainless, but it's always cool to see new things.
No reason other than weight savings. From my previous stainless setup which ran the exact same way and dumped the same location i saved just at 20lbs
Sounds great
Such a beautiful exhaust.
Yall should get in contact with taylor ray, hes always using your clamps on his projects, and absolutely loves your products
Heck yeah! Love Taylor's content
Wow proper fab on the house! Mark is one if not the best fab guy in southern ontario 🤘🏼 fantastic video as always vibrant team
awesome. i love this daily driver mustang.
damn that thing looks mean. Good job owner.
I did a full aluminum exhaust in my pickup. 2001 4.0 ranger tuned up on nitrous. Not bashing on the work as this is a really nice job, however this setup is going to be very short lived. Every single joint is a butt joint putting all the stress on the welds and 1,000% I would never use 5356 filler in a high heat cycle application. Every single time I've used it with or without post weld heat treating, the welds fail. It gets very brittle at temp and in this situation. 4043 and 4943 are far better choices. Aluminum is a bit tricky in a heat application due to the tendencies to crack at temperature.
@Vibrant Performance TV
I've used your guys stuff personally and it's all good stuff. I would highly highly suggest you guys use slip joints in this application to fix the welds failing. Especially with the mufflers/resonators, those should be slip joints regardless of the base metal.
Good work regardless just personally kinda sucks to have comebacks on stuff like this and have to fix it down the road. Been there done that not fun. Lol keep it up guys, nice looking car and a really nice exhaust!
people have got far to into "pretty welds" for the sake of the look and not making the best engineering choice instead.
YEP!!!! That's the ticket right there!!!!
Kashus is an awesome dude
You guys are awesome! Thank you!
That sounded very good considering the lack of an x pipe… props
I'm guessing this tig welder primarily welds aluminum! Feathering the pedal with the dabbing, could use a cup that is half the size with a lens. Also, 308l filler is designed to weld mild to ss, and lastly, the gas only needs to be 11 to 15 cfh.
isnt that whats he was doing mild header to SS flange?
Would have been nice to have a crossover in there. Can still add a H style crossover tube.
@@arturozarate1752 the car will not get a crossover. Its setup this way for a reason. Im not looking for a “balanced sound” think of any drag car, pro mod, old school hot rod, a/c cobra. No mid section 😃
As far as the finish goes. It will not dull. The aluminum dissipates heat quickly. Think turbo piping 😃
@@Kashusr There are a lot of people that think an x pipe is a supercharger and if you don’t have one you’re either dumb or you sit down to pee.
Its a known fact that H pipe and X pipes create more Horse power Especially on Ford Small blocks.
@@Kashusr bimetal corrosion? A concern?
@@zackjay71 if I'm understanding his replies, the owner is out for a particular sound.
depending on the use... would be helpful to either go H or X on this car... H helps in the lower range and X in the upper
First exhaust I've seen made out of alloy. Thanks for sharing, it's ferocious
Your comment looks bot-generated lol
its aluminimum not alloy, alloy is a mix of two metals.
Beautiful car
What’s the part number on the mufflers?
Why isn’t your aluminum muffler available on your website?
Unfortunately they were discontinued years ago, i was lucky enough to find a pair brand new in the box. Should we bring these back?!
@@Kashusr had 2 rotaries setup with this. With 3.5 inch aluminum after downpipe 2 of your mufflers. Held up great, sounded amazing, and lightweight. After I saw no longer available I just did your stainless version. But I would love these in aluminum again.
Will definitely bring this over to our product development team! Thanks!
Neat on an NA car, I tried on a turbo car and melted holes in the pipes. EGT just gets too high. Don't park it on grass either.
It may be the video idk, it sounds ok, not great. These are really just straight thru resonators aren't they?? Some of the sound also changes with different header design
The whole car is nice though 👍
Aluminum used for exhaust?? No way?? Thats insane!! Ive never ever heard of that wowwwwwwww!!
I have the ghetto version of this, I need to find a good place to fab up a nicer set up. Couldn't find an x pipe that would clear the T56.
8:20 them going to be some toasty elbows!
I need these mufflers!
You will be the first when they come back. Maybe some titanium 👀
Why add the aluminum exhaust, other than the weight reduction? It sounds great. I dont see it adding that much of a difference other wise?
Weight.. even bigger advantage if you're running all the way out the back with aluminum mufflers. 30+ lbs is probably a safe estimate vs similarly configured steel exhaust. If you do, would definitely recommend coating with something like Cerakote if you want any longevity out of it.. especially if you're anywhere near the coast.
Shii mint🔥
I could just see that going badly with the rags getting caught up in the bandsaw
Why no crossover pipe or x-pipe?
Looks great besides the missing h pipe.
Kashus!! Wattup bro!!
Chaz! Whats happenin buddy! 🙏🏾
BRING THE ALUMINUM MUFFLERS BACK ASAP!!!! I WILL BUY THEM!!!
Know the rubber 5/16 fuel line fits inside of the 12AN line, just use Permatex ultra as lube and stuff them together... 5 inches in, 100psi going nowhere. several years, still not coming apart... can put a 5/16 steel tube in a 5/16 ptfe line so the 5/16 rubber hose can clamp onto it the bubbles and heated flair on the ptfe make a lip that holds it on, but eh... if it gets thrown out its going onto what i'm doing, just to some day get all the right parts but never all at once.
Needs to do more videos of his car on his channel....
Got another coming up next week 👌
What are the benefits of aluminum exhaust? Just curious.
Weight difference is a big factor & the main reason for most to build an aluminum exhaust system, but it also has a different resonance which means it will sound a good bit different than steel.
@MixxedBoyyBuilds oh ok I got it, I'm assuming that would be the same difference with titanium exhaust as well
@@TraysComedy ti would be a little heavier but far more durable.
@krusher74 thank you
Mark always does impressive work, incredible talent in the Toronto area 🙌
Do a setup for f150 cat back v8
would have been nice a before and after sound to compare
Bring back the alum mufflers!
How much for a h pipe back exhaust set? Nice video
You would have to consult with your fabricator, we manufacture all the parts to make it, but these videos are used as aids to give you ideas of what our product range is, as well as what finished results are. If you need help finding a local fabricator, you can always email us at info@vibrantperformance.com and we can help!
@Vibrant Performance TV Kool just asking
I hope they bring this back but make them out of a thicker material so they dont crack after a few heat cycles! From what ive heard they had major issues and thats why they got discontinued
Alu inst a great choice, Ti is the better choice but expensive.
bring back the aluminum mufflers
so i think i know what im building my exhaust from thanks.
What name brand mufflers?
All materials are Vibrant Performance, including the mufflers
Jordan Peele has a clean Foxbody
😂😂😂
It has a motor cycle type roar. Need to hear it in person. Not sold on it. Other than weight reduction.
Hey guys, really suggest investing in a better quality microphone to do your product better justice.
didnt know vibrant still made the aluminum mufflers?
oh yeah most racers use custom bent aluminum exhaust expensive AF but light as hell
Why no crossover?
@lenny person So sounding better and making more power with proper exhaust scavenging is gay? Right..
@lenny person WHY DO YOU TALK IN CAPS?
Sound have used a balance pipe and smooth out the exhaust note. Sounds trailer parkish to me.
could always be the camera too! Sounds different in person.
@ 13:59 if I hadn't been watching from the beginning, I'd clearly know that the car belongs to either "Jack" or "Sledge" of the "Hammer" brothers.
"Rookie"! Sourced everything else but a larger hump cross member. Maaaan...
Unfortunately no better clearance cross member for a foxbody 👎🏾
@@Kashusr rubbish! REALLY? I haven't been under my Cobra in forever....
What specific cross member are you using and what pipe diameter are you trying to clear? I clear 3" od all the way to the bumper through Flowmaster 3" tailpipes.
Those were popuular back in the highschool days of selsun bloo
In-line engines are way more balanced than a v setup because the pistons are going in different directions.
I was waiting to see someone else chim in on this.
you sir are correct!
Get that man some tig gloves 😂
No x pipe?
It sounds lumpy but doesn’t have that 5.0 Mustang classic sound…..
Do you sell these anymore
To each they own.. I dont like the noise.😎
Gotta do a redemption video with some better audio equipment next time!
Satan likes that you suggest rags for the band saw...Killer tip
satan loves a guard taken off a grinder too.
A xpipe that comes together will have more horsepower facts
The welder sounds like John Malkovich.
not a bad thing!
Needs full tailpipes
Unfortunately no tailpipes in this cars future 😃
I would have kept the six and turbo it
needed a x pipe for sure
Where's the crossover? LOL.
No crossover 😀
Cobras dont have an H or X pipe and thats why they sound like that, a v8 doesnt have an equal firing or per bank being the prime reason for the lumpy idle sound even on a bone stock engine
4043 would have been a better choice. 5356 should not be used for materials that will be operating above 150 degrees.
Why not?
@@NathanaelNaused it stress cracks above 150. I can’t lie tho, I’ve used 5356 on high heat applications multiple times and it’s held up so far
@@belloautomotive1522 Cool, good to know 👍🏼
Sounds like a loud chevy truck 😂😂😂😂
Cool but don’t put it on any booster cars or high hp na cars
Today we build an exhaust with miters instead of bends and then make a video about it as if this isnt a shit way to build an exhaust
There is a reason nobody uses aluminum for exhaust but alot of radiators use aluminum. Heat transfer, and the floor board will get very hot and in the summer time well the cab of your vehicle south of Canada will get hot very hot, hope your ac if you have one work very good cause your going to need it! Why do they coat headers and exhaust pipe with ceramic, I guess to keep heat in to cut down on heat transfer under hood and close to floor boards?
Rust is the reason why stainless steel is the go to metal for exhausts.. He may have went with "aluminium" to save weight..lol i would just turn the exhaust after the front tires, in my state it's ok for an old car.. God bless TX..
Aluminum does not retain heat like stainless does. These exhausts are located underneath the vehicle, and there is a LOT of air flow there. You will notice our line of heat protective shielding is made from aluminum, that is because it blocks the heat from entering, but also if you expose a section of the aluminum heat shield (also the reason why heat shields hang so low on vehicles) to an open airway (such as underneath the car) then all the heat that absorbs from the exhaust tubing will transfer out the exposed area.
This car does not have AC and it is not a daily driver. This is a street/strip car.
@@P71ScrewHead I'm an old guy, been doing hot rod stuff for awhile and if you drive it on the street you going to hit red lights and traffic jams 🎸, if it's a track car straight headers no need for exhaust pipe weights to much your at the track right. Nascar uses aluminum exhaust pipe and other metals to. It gets so hot inside those cars that the driver loses more water or fluids than any other athlete or any athlete if you don't consider them athletes in one race. It gets really hot inside those cars and they have close to two hundred miles per hour of air flow. I'm just trying to give car guys a heads up on the cons of aluminum exhaust parts. Hope you don't get in a traffic jam in Texas, I'm from the Great state of Louisiana and love Texas like Texas to
@@VibrantPerformanceTV Nascar cars have two hundred miles per hour of air flow and the drivers loses more fluid weight than any other athlete in one event not even close because wait for it, it gets really hot inside the cab of a race car! Now if I'm on the street I might run into a red light or two and a traffic jam on a hot day in Texas or California or well you should get my point. Look I've been car crafting for years I'm an old guy. A track car doesn't use exhaust pipe at the strip, weight to much. Open headers or header mufflers if required. Look I'm giving car guys the skinny on what you make money above the whole truth guys. Bud light though it would be a great idea to put a man dressed up as a woman on their beer cans, don't be that company!
@@tracytalbott9259 I have a/c bcuz of the heat.. i think these ppl are in Canada?? Might not need a/c, plus i think the video said it's a track car.. On my car ]i use electric exhaust cutouts after my longtubes for sound purposes, if not i'd leave them open all the time.. Shout out to Louisiana, we share similar political beliefs n y'all most times back TX when we stand up against corrupt federal government..
Was told aluminum is weak 4 exhaust
Rusts faster than stainless steel but weighs less..
You must have been told that because assumption was that thin wall aluminum is weak for exhaust, which it is. If you are using a Stainless muffler with aluminum, then you will also run into issues. Keep in mind a lot of promods use Aluminum on their downpipes in turbo cars (as seen in the Mustang at our PRI booth, video is on our channel showcasing the vehicle)
@@VibrantPerformanceTV I Tried a 3 inch vibrant aluminum exhaust, with stainless mufflers, dumped under the car, and it blew holes in the pipe about 4 inches away from the collector. Keep in mind this is on a 900hp LT4 camaro. Doubled up the first 12 inches of pipe after the collector, then the whole inside layer blew apart and put a gigantic hole in the middle of a 45 degree bend. I wish it worked for me, but I went back to stainless
@@Cdub427 horsepower has alot to do with it I’m sureThis thing only makes 400hp 😂😂
@@Kashusr I’m jealous! I can’t run aluminum 😭 unless vibrant makes some custom .080+ wall 3 inch 👀
Needs H or X pipe. It just sounds like crap with out that iconic sound
Rev is average. Idle and acceleration is awesome
stick welding gloves with .035 wire lol
Spintech sound better
Please Add an H for the next video
Camera audio was terrible
i dont understand, safety first, wearing a full mask. but the grinder dont have a schield/cap. you can loose a finger.
No crossover tube or X pipe, this system isn't ideal.
sounds like a truck lol
WTAF why was there f#%^ing music playing the entire time the car was running! I literally skipped forward just to hear it and that’s what you do?!
please dont put music on exhaust sound clips.............wtf
we'll remember that for the next one! Our bad!