KryoSheet.. bit on the expensive side, but doesn't dry out or need replacing when handled properly. Highly recommend to builders who aren't confident with thermal paste application and plan to keep their CPU for a long time. Only issue with it is you need to handle it delicately. It can even be reused.
Why not just use on of those replacement CPU frames from themallite or thermalgrizzly? They fit pretty snug around them , even the AMD and pretty much does the same thing as that piece of plastic... And you don't have to worry about it potentially melting on the CPU if it happens to overheat
There's no need for a CPU frame replacement on an AM5 socket which is already robust enough and won't bend like Intel LGA1700 sockets. The Noctua thermal guard is designed to withstand temperatures up to 130C, so it won't melt. AM5 processors are designed to not go over 95C for extended amounts of time.
@@little_fluffy_cloudsare you a bot? You're pointing out stuff that has nothing to do with OPs comment. OP is talk about thermal paste seeping over the sides, not about overheating nor bending.
@@painexotic3757yeah, I was also taking about the plastic frames for AM5 chips that are intended to prevent thermal paste seepage and I was pointing out the Noctua ones don’t melt. And in case it wasn’t obvious to you, no, I’m not a bot. Are you?
Are you putting the thermal paste on plastic @2.33? What new fangled contraption is this Noctua kit? I thought the thermal paste had to be in direct contact with the CPU.lid.
I use a Kryosheet on my 7600, as I only game, no issues whatsoever. I don’t do any CPU intensive tasks, so the CPU is never under a full all core workload.
So, what are your thoughts on using the Thermal Grizzly Carbonaut or Kryosheet? I am using a Carbonaut on my i9-13900K and not having any issues, and no mess.
@@TheProvokedPrawn And the Carbonaut is reusable. The Kryosheet seems more fragile but with a better termal conductivity... Could be an interesting video comparaison with termal paste. ^^
@@TheProvokedPrawn I've been using the IC graphite pads (which TG copied) for about six years now, and the difference really only happens with extreme overclocking. With a decent overclock, and a good thermal paste, you're only going to see around a 4 - 5C difference at most on full stress test load (which you'll rarely be doing with most applications). It's only when you're going higher that it would really matter, but then you probably wouldn't want to bother with normal thermal compounds anyway. They seem to last indefinitely, and it also makes it easier to take off the heat sink for transportation purposes if you're using air, instead of liquid. The only downsides I can think of would be that depending on how good the contact with the bottom of the heat sink is, and whether or not it has any "micro valleys". You can also tear them depending on the heat sink type as well as with some AMD chips, and also some of them are electrically conductive, so you would want to be extra careful around a chip like the one in this video. Lastly, I think the hardest part of using them is simply keeping them in place, or at least across the entire surface area of the chip while you're actually mounting your heat sink or cold plate, because they love to shift around very easily.
@@Efoure4 i mean im personally running one with a 7950x3d it's perfectly okay when i was using thermal paste nothing ever got to the bottom of the cpu or inside the socket i since switched to ptm7950
I would think the whole idea of that bit of plastic is to stop spreading thermal paste off the cpu. Once it’s spread, you remove it. Then add your cooler. That plastic could very well melt if your temps stay high for a long period of time.
😅 I now keep watching till the end to see if the brutton outro gets changed lol and between me noticing it and you saying you need to redo it I've watched a video on you leaving your day job and committing everything to TH-cam. So at this point I'm thinking it's a deliberate tactic to make me watch till the end. + can you do the membership bit in the middle of the video?
this happened to me, thermal paste overflowed BUT not to the insides of the cpu but like the outer layers and like the green part, should the cpu be fine? it didnt get to the bottom either.
Interesting. (F)or (Y)our (I)nformation as long as the paste isn't conductive then there is no worry about spillage. Who is gonna know if there is spillage anyways and since it's not seen - is it a real concern?
While AMD and Intel fanboys fighting over who has the best CPU, for me the choice was always clear: no more Intel until they fixed those annoying plastic pins, AMD wins because screws. It's been the most important factor I pondered and now my next CPU will be Intel unless AMD fixes these stupid holes on the sides.
That I don't know but the official advice from Noctua is to leave it in place, so I assume it's resistant or not enough heat reaches the edges to matter
Not likely, most thermal pastes aren’t electrically conductive. Those that are still aren’t very likely to cause any issues. So long as you don’t get any in the socket you should be fine.
Wondering if it was simply to stand out from previous CPU IHS. I can't stand it. I've always been able to clean up any previous CPU before pulling it from a motherboard. These AM5 cpu's are a PITA to fully clean. I buy those thermalright plates for $9 and sadly some compound still gets past them. ANd to make matters worse those contact plate somewhat stain and don't wipe clean like a CPU does.
If you only use as much paste as necessary, nothing will run down the side. Instead of spending money on such a frame, people should better learn to apply the paste properly, then they will save money rather than spending extra
Eh This is more so a product for the "I want it 100% covered" than the "just good nuff" crowd As shown, people are using these to spread the paste all over. And it's probably a God send for the Liquid Metal guys who actually have to worry about messing up with that stuff. Bout $10 for peace of mind on a CPU you will spend about $300-400 on. It's a drop in the bucket.
KryoSheet.. bit on the expensive side, but doesn't dry out or need replacing when handled properly. Highly recommend to builders who aren't confident with thermal paste application and plan to keep their CPU for a long time. Only issue with it is you need to handle it delicately. It can even be reused.
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why not ptm 7950?
I recommend the MJ M12, both price and performance are very advantageous, also after all, suitable for newbies!
Why not just use on of those replacement CPU frames from themallite or thermalgrizzly? They fit pretty snug around them , even the AMD and pretty much does the same thing as that piece of plastic... And you don't have to worry about it potentially melting on the CPU if it happens to overheat
I replaced the base socket with a thermalright protector. Since then I have a problem that my computer randomly shuts down.
There's no need for a CPU frame replacement on an AM5 socket which is already robust enough and won't bend like Intel LGA1700 sockets. The Noctua thermal guard is designed to withstand temperatures up to 130C, so it won't melt. AM5 processors are designed to not go over 95C for extended amounts of time.
@@little_fluffy_cloudsare you a bot? You're pointing out stuff that has nothing to do with OPs comment. OP is talk about thermal paste seeping over the sides, not about overheating nor bending.
@@fiskus5781you're the second person I've seen say this. I wonder why that is. But most people don't seem to have this issue.
@@painexotic3757yeah, I was also taking about the plastic frames for AM5 chips that are intended to prevent thermal paste seepage and I was pointing out the Noctua ones don’t melt. And in case it wasn’t obvious to you, no, I’m not a bot. Are you?
How does the heat from the cpu/mobo/case not just obliterate that plastic?
It is polycarbonate. It withstand 130c.
Literally ordered these 7 hours ago. This weekend is going to rule.
Have fun
Are you putting the thermal paste on plastic @2.33? What new fangled contraption is this Noctua kit? I thought the thermal paste had to be in direct contact with the CPU.lid.
No, it's just the light. The plastic only sits off the edges
Reminds me info commercials that making cutting a piece of paper with a stand pair of scissors look impossible
I use a Kryosheet on my 7600, as I only game, no issues whatsoever.
I don’t do any CPU intensive tasks, so the CPU is never under a full all core workload.
Thanks for the vid. No idea why AMD went with this chip.
So, what are your thoughts on using the Thermal Grizzly Carbonaut or Kryosheet? I am using a Carbonaut on my i9-13900K and not having any issues, and no mess.
I've used those sheets before and they're great. So much easier. I've not tested the thermal performance Vs paste but for usability they're excellent
@@TheProvokedPrawn And the Carbonaut is reusable. The Kryosheet seems more fragile but with a better termal conductivity... Could be an interesting video comparaison with termal paste. ^^
@@TheProvokedPrawn I've been using the IC graphite pads (which TG copied) for about six years now, and the difference really only happens with extreme overclocking. With a decent overclock, and a good thermal paste, you're only going to see around a 4 - 5C difference at most on full stress test load (which you'll rarely be doing with most applications). It's only when you're going higher that it would really matter, but then you probably wouldn't want to bother with normal thermal compounds anyway.
They seem to last indefinitely, and it also makes it easier to take off the heat sink for transportation purposes if you're using air, instead of liquid. The only downsides I can think of would be that depending on how good the contact with the bottom of the heat sink is, and whether or not it has any "micro valleys". You can also tear them depending on the heat sink type as well as with some AMD chips, and also some of them are electrically conductive, so you would want to be extra careful around a chip like the one in this video.
Lastly, I think the hardest part of using them is simply keeping them in place, or at least across the entire surface area of the chip while you're actually mounting your heat sink or cold plate, because they love to shift around very easily.
I really like the CPU Holder/Corrective Anti-Bending Fixing Frame from Thermalright for this reason
I have a bad enough time trying to clean up paste from intel cpus. Can't imagine how annoying it is on these ryzen chips.
Have you tried the CPU guard from Thermal Grizzly? I works the same way but is a gasket that you place on the CPU itself.
I haven't but thanks for sharing
Alternatively the thermalright contact frame gives you the same effect while actually giving you proper mounting support on your cpu
Yeah investigate that for us :P They seem extremely cheap and if they do what they say then it should be a no brainer to use.
@@Efoure4 i mean im personally running one with a 7950x3d it's perfectly okay when i was using thermal paste nothing ever got to the bottom of the cpu or inside the socket i since switched to ptm7950
Im using the Thermalright Contact Frame. Works great. Paid like 10€ for it and it even came with 2g of thermal paste
It would be cheaper and much better for cooling to replace the ILM with an aftermarket contact frame that has those notches built into it.
I use pointed Qtips, specifically Ci Kyan, with a bit of isopropyl alcohol to clean my thermal paste messes.
Can I just use some sort of spatula and spread it
I would think the whole idea of that bit of plastic is to stop spreading thermal paste off the cpu. Once it’s spread, you remove it. Then add your cooler. That plastic could very well melt if your temps stay high for a long period of time.
You'd think that but the official advice is to leave it in place 🤷🏼♂️
@@TheProvokedPrawn fair enough. Thanks for the video
@@mikebaker2927 I did wonder myself but I looked it up and that's what Noctua says to do. Thanks for watching, as always
i wouldnt put a piece of plastic there. Id just use a thermalright contact plate, cheap and keeps your cpu clean.
About to build on the AM5 platform. Any chance you could provide a link to what you're talking about mate? Would be much appreciated.
I did think you were going to use the sheets on this video as the alternative to paste.
😅 I now keep watching till the end to see if the brutton outro gets changed lol and between me noticing it and you saying you need to redo it I've watched a video on you leaving your day job and committing everything to TH-cam. So at this point I'm thinking it's a deliberate tactic to make me watch till the end. + can you do the membership bit in the middle of the video?
I need to find time to do it. Stop shaming me 😂😂
Thermal paste is non conducive so it’s not really a huge deal if you get some splurge out the side lol.
Exactly. As long as you aren't dumping a ton on there, it really shouldn't even be an issue
"...cleaning off my shame" 🤣
Appreciate the video!
Glad it was helpful!
If the thermal paste goes over the edges of my 7800x3d will it reduce its perfomance or produce some negative effects?
No
I don’t know about you man. Wouldn’t let you near my computer!
That's ok I don't want to go near your computer
this happened to me, thermal paste overflowed BUT not to the insides of the cpu but like the outer layers and like the green part, should the cpu be fine? it didnt get to the bottom either.
just clean whatever you can and you'll be fine it really doesn't do anything to the cpu nor the motherboard if it isn't an excessive amount
@@N0Motion thx
Interesting. (F)or (Y)our (I)nformation as long as the paste isn't conductive then there is no worry about spillage. Who is gonna know if there is spillage anyways and since it's not seen - is it a real concern?
People are very fussy
While AMD and Intel fanboys fighting over who has the best CPU, for me the choice was always clear: no more Intel until they fixed those annoying plastic pins, AMD wins because screws.
It's been the most important factor I pondered and now my next CPU will be Intel unless AMD fixes these stupid holes on the sides.
what to do if its one the backside?
Use thermal gaurd it will help allot 🙂
Looks like a real waste of money at $10. If it was only a few bucks maybe. Also it's got very poor ratings on Amazon.
how does the plastic guard react to the heat from the cpu in the long run?
That I don't know but the official advice from Noctua is to leave it in place, so I assume it's resistant or not enough heat reaches the edges to matter
It's designed to withstand temperatures of up to 130C, so it'll be fine, even in the long run.
when it overflows, can it damage the cpu?
Not likely, most thermal pastes aren’t electrically conductive. Those that are still aren’t very likely to cause any issues. So long as you don’t get any in the socket you should be fine.
This problem caused by amd design .
Wondering if it was simply to stand out from previous CPU IHS. I can't stand it. I've always been able to clean up any previous CPU before pulling it from a motherboard. These AM5 cpu's are a PITA to fully clean. I buy those thermalright plates for $9 and sadly some compound still gets past them. ANd to make matters worse those contact plate somewhat stain and don't wipe clean like a CPU does.
Like the video please
If you only use as much paste as necessary, nothing will run down the side. Instead of spending money on such a frame, people should better learn to apply the paste properly, then they will save money rather than spending extra
Eh
This is more so a product for the "I want it 100% covered" than the "just good nuff" crowd
As shown, people are using these to spread the paste all over.
And it's probably a God send for the Liquid Metal guys who actually have to worry about messing up with that stuff.
Bout $10 for peace of mind on a CPU you will spend about $300-400 on. It's a drop in the bucket.
carbonaut is better
how so?
no mess@@LordAngelus
You guys act like the past is conductive lol
It's just people not liking mess
This video made me cringe the entire time.. so messy
Thanks
Just use Honeywell PTM7950