$8 Fix for AMD Thermal Problems? | Thermalright AM5 Contact Frame
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- This Thermal Right Bracket, can be had for $8 on aliexpress, and with reports of how well these brackets work on Intel (tests to come), I decided to give it a go with both water cooling and aircooling. And well, it's hit and miss.
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00:00 The bracket, what's in the box and mounting the unit.
01:03 Installing the bracket, was there anything wrong?
01:55 Checking Water Temps with both 7950X3D and emulated 7800X3D.
03:15 What about air temperatures? checking with the snowman.
04:25 Final Results and Conclusion, it's good for some and not for others.
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1 degree difference is tough to attribute to the bracket. Could just be the variance between re-pastes and mounts
Because it wasn't made to decrease temperatures, but to stop Thermal Paste from running down the CPU's edge due it's shape.
@@Nethan10Troi it doesn't even do that as it doesn't have a tight seal around the IHS. You'll need the rubber gasket variant of this for that
It's simply a product to make things pretty... Under a heatsink.
@@silvershines that is what it is being advertised for. It helps applying the TIM to a certain degree.
@Nethan10Troi it's irrelevant to actual usage though as TIM application doesn't really do much around the outer edges of the heatspreader. And it's no more difficult to apply TIM to the center of this heatspreader than any other.
It's understandable why Thermalright did it. They wanted to have something out in the market since they have been making these brackets for a long time and no one paid attention until LGA1700's warping issue. Now it's a product designed for those who want to make things pretty, as people can get quite OCD about non-rectangular shapes.
They had a similar product for AM4 designed to prevent the CPU from coming off the socket, that was the origin of this whole "Secure Frame" product name. This product is still called an AM5 Secure Frame on their main site; what exactly is it securing? Idk go with with the flow...
At least the 1g of TF-7 thermal paste provided in the package is above average.
The brackets for am5 were made to prevent thermal paste from making a mess all over the cpu
Yeah, this was the main motivator for me to use one of these.
Thank you for clearing that up. Seeing the video I am racking my brain on why AM5 needs a contact frame. For your info, I am using contact frame on my intel 12th for the bending issue, so this video really confusing me as the AMD cpu has a totally good, square and solid lid.
you can get some stickers of some sorts instead of this bracket i think they are more expensive but atleast you dont need to install a bracket
I thought these brackets were designed to keep the CPU from being bent? That's the description.
@@optikon4658 i think the cpu being bent were the intel cpus and not amd am5 platform im not too sure
Thanks for testing these brackets! I've always wondered if they did anything for AM5 and you've scratched my curiosity itch!!!
AM5 doesn't have a warping of the CPU issues like LGA 1700 does due to the square nature of the CPU AMD uses. Intel screwed up with 12th and 13th gen
According to der8auer, they made the ihs thicker or something to make the coolers from am4 compatible or something and this may have altered thermal conductivity for the worse.
May wanna double check since I could be wrong id your interested.
@@Derpynewb they did, they wanted to have cooler compatibility so they matched the z height of the am4 platform. And adding material, no matter how thermally conductive it is, will only make things worse. Would have been better to send out dummy CPUs and motherboards to cooler manufacturers ahead of the release so they could make either brackets for existing coolers, or design new coolers around it.
Distortion is always present to some degree with LGA socket retention mechs, going right back to the very first ones, just not to the gross degree seen with Intel 12th/13th.
Yup thats the reason im not buying this bracket cuz pressure problem does not exist in AMD mobo
@@nathanhamman418 Or just don't push CPU way above there efficiency point. Non X parts don't have any problems with cooling and 30-40$ 120mm cooler will work just fine, when X parts is burning even with 360-420 aio...
The AIO used in the video is supposed to be mounted with an offset so that the cold plate is centered over the Ryzen Chiplets under the IHS. Basically you have to move down both of the two pieces which you screw the waterblock onto so that the uppermost drilled holes are used instead of the bottom holes. Offset mounting is the right way to use the Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420mm on Ryzen 7000. I have mine just like that mounted with the offset, the waterblock and coldplate are centered right over the chiplets.
Could you please explain better what you mean by this? I just ordered 7800x3d with arctic liquid freezer II
@Yurmun So when you get your cooler.
You have to place the two black colored plates supplied with the cooler on the AM5 socket as far down as possible. They basically align with the topmost drilled holes on the plates. And then you place the waterblock the same way and it's holes should align properly aswell. This way the waterblock sits as far down over the IHS centered over the chiplets under it. You can mount it normally as well but then it will sit further up not exactly over the chiplets. It's not mandatory but it's preferable to mount it with the downward offset.
@@Gielderst is that also true for the liquid freezer 280? Does it also include the same brackets?
@Yurmun I think it's true. Cause they're all basically the same cooler just in different sizes.
I have the Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420mm ARGB.
And have mounted it with the offset as far down as possible so that it's right over the chiplets cause i'm cooling a Ryzen 9 7950X3D with the 420 lol. Arctic is awesome. The 420 is so big that i placed it outside my PC case ontop of it and the top panel over the cooler radiator. It looks like a PC sandwich lol. But i like it and the cooling potential as well.
Thanks for testing this.
If youre having heat problems with 7800x3d or 7950x3d a simple non invasive trick to drop temps by 15-20 degrees celsius is go into edit power plan>change advanced power settings, scroll to find porocessor power management>maximum processor state, and change from 100 to 99. 1% drop in performance is worth the trade for -20 degrees temperature.
It's not %1 performance difference only, It completely disables CBP. Just dont do nothing. It desing to work hot. Just buy better cooling instead or slightly undervolt.
Lmfao disable core performance boost or precision boost overdrive.
I purchased one of these brackets for my 7900X new build. Did a before and after since I was putting it together. I reseat a few times just to make sure I was getting a steady and correct reading temp wise. I ended up with a 5c difference. Using a custom loop system. So there is something to be said for purchasing one at such a cheap price.
Nice
I call bullshit.
Total bullshit. The cpu cooler presses against the top of the CPU heat spreader and has no contact with this. Thermalrite dont claim it makes a temp difference, they claim it prevents thermal paste from spilling over the sides. For Intel, they had bending issues. AMD didnt have those issues. it was just the odd shape meant thermal paste was getting squeezed through the gaps. I ordered one just cos it looks cool and to keep thermal paste out. but dont understand why idiots have to make up bullshit claims lol get a life.
I know it likely does nothing but, there is something just so right about the way it looks when installed that would probably make me buy one.
Sometimes it's nice just to do a job with something that little bit higher quality if it looks/feels so right.
And yeah I know it's not visible once the cooler is on, but you still know it's there and done better.
I mean the price is worth the satisfaction and dopamine hit from the installation anyway.
its visible with a cooler on, especially a aio, so make sure you get a color you like.
If you were to lap IHS and cooler plate flat you might find higher drop. Lapping doesn't usually help using the factory retention mech because it deforms the IHS slightly (actually quite a lot with Intel 12th and 13th, as much discussed) - the frame would maintain the profile of the IHS (the cooler plate also needs flattening because they're usually manufactured either slightly arched or domed to conform to that IHS distortion).
Lapping it makes the am4 coolers incompatible
It's Intel's fault, I really hate the design of their latest sockets, it's too wide on one side it's clearly made to be bent on purpose and I think they look uglier than ever specially when they have the highest prices and look less high-tech visually...
Love the content. I was wondering if maybe a contact frame would make a difference on AMD also. I would grab one if was on the shelf in front of me for sure, just for the fun of it. Thanks Bro
I haven't had issues with AM5 temperatures. I'd definitely look at motherboard options for temp improvement when needed.
What's your build? My cpu keeps fluctuating temps and hits 85°C constantly while gaming
@@skeptical597that's normal i think and what CPU do you have?
@@skeptical597 that’s normal for Ryzen 7000
Nice test. Do you think horizontal or vertical orientation of the motherboard would matter? With a vertical orientation I can imagine that the bending effects with a large air cooler are more significant than in horizontal orientation. I was looking if this was bracket would be helpful with my air cooler. For now I'll keep that 8 bucks in my pocket.
It solves the issue with the thermal paste going all over the processor grooves. I would prefer this to the thermal grizlly pads as it looks much nicer.
so true!
Except that is not an issue at all unless someone is using a conductive paste, and there is no good reason to do that on AM5
@@TheBackyardChemist I change my thermal paste regularly, if you have an AM5 chip and you remove your cooling solution you’ll see why I went with this bracket. The grooves get gunked pretty bad with the exposed cutouts.
@@TheBackyardChemist well, quite aware of that. Not an issue per say as for cpu operation or what not. But an issue for OCD people lol , cleaning the past overspill is pain, well at least for me.
Noctua makes the paste guard to keep the toes clean.
You should make use of your Arctic AIO offset mounting, you using AM4 default mounting, but if you have a Ryzen installed you should use the upper 2 holes of the cooler mounting bracket, giving you another 5 degree off, and its centered on the hot spot.
But thats am5. The cores are not in the same place as in am4.
The limit is the CPU cooler you selected (even with 2x fans in a push-pull configuration you won’t have better temps, only less noise). You have to go with a *Dual Tower Cooler* (or a big cooler like the *Black Rock*) that has the capability / thermal capacity to dissipate more heat in order to see a significant difference. Just my two cents. Thanks for the great content!
I'd argue that the water cooling test is a good estimate to how much it differs with a bigger air clooer. Not perfectly, but close enough.
I’m running a 13-gen 13900K with one of those blocks on an Asus mobo. Running full tilt rendering (forensics) with a 4090 sharing the load. It averages around 47C with full fans. I’m running it bone stock as the newer chipset on the latest boards has issues with XMP and over clocking -with the current bios. Cooler is a 480 liquid. We just put those blocks on 2 more of the same systems. Personally I like them.
Does this bracket also stop paste from getting on the cpu sides, seems like a nice way to keep it clean.
This bracket is pointless for AM5. The only reason this was made for LGA 1700 is that the crappy stock socket mount bent the CPU and created an unequal surface area for coolers. It's not an issue with AM5 as it has tightenings on both sides not just on one and the CPU "head" is not the longer version like with LGA 1700 CPUs.
Hey bryan, recently I've noticed that you can undervolt any 13th gen CPU without losing performance after changing the CPU microcode to version 104 (it takes a bit of effort), and this is very easy if you are using an ASUS motherboard since they allow you to change the microcode directly in the BIOS (advanced settings --> tweaker's paradise). By doing this you can undervolt the CPU just as usual !
Wait, has undervolting been removed from 13th gen?
@@Eduardo1007 the performance would drop dramatically if you try to undervolt the 13th gen. My 13600kf got only 1/4 of the normal score or even lower in CPUZ after I reduced 0.1V. However, by using the method I explained earlier, you can undervolt the 13th gen just as usual.
I'm still using older contact frame that come bundled with thermalright AXP-100H Muscle on i7-9700, and when I first buy one it's meant only for haswell CPU and it made from plastic.
I would like to see that bracket tested with highest end of desktop AM5 APU's when they come out. ❤
speaking of the snowman mt4, just got one for $11 usd (converted) free shipping too, -10c both idle and full load (r5 3600) coming from the stock cooler its well worth the money, the initial install with the default am4 clip brackets is freakishly unnerving tho, seems like excessive force pushing down on the 2nd latch lol
Have you tried the offset mounting for the Arctic cooler? Any differences between the standard mounting and offset?
I have a 7950x and I've never had any kind of thermal issue. I did hear that they ran hot before I bought it so went with a 360mm AIO cooler. It does the job perfectly, I've never seen my temps go above 75.
so your only gaming on it?
@@OPTIMUS6LTRgaming doesn't get it anywhere near 75c
My 5600x runs 15 degrees cooler than that just running a wraith prism and undervolt 😂
I bought the thermal right lga1700 for z690 and i7 13700kf with Artic freezer 240 mm. The temperature reduction was insane, dropping from 70C to 55C at 5600Mhz OC.
I highly recommend these products if you plan to overclock or just want a lower cpu temp.
Yes, but only on Intel LGA 1700, since that socket has mounting issues all the way. So bad, that your problems can range from "only" memory instabilities up to booting right into a bsod.
If you're on Ryzen 7000 you would benefit more from lapping the cpu or delidding it, the IHS is actually the most hindering factor when it comes to thermals and clockspeeds, and keep in mind: Zen 4 is designed to push for those 95°C first when setting the clockspeed and voltage automatically.
the worst part is intel knew this was going to be a problem, I refuse to believe they didn't. My evidence for that claim is being a user of the LGA3647 socket, another socket that is nothing even close to square. The solution to the potential cooling issue was using the cooler to apply the mounting pressure from above rather than at a couple of points on the edge, the bulk of the pressure being where the lines intersect, right in the middle of the chip. AMD still made a square chip, so the warp of having an oblong monstrosity who's pressure is applied centrally isn't the issue, but as some have speculated the thicker IHS may be to blame. If so the fault of both parties was trying to maintain a broad cooler compatibility through using more or less the same mount design and Z height respectively.
There may come a day when more performance necessitates a return to direct die, or at least I hope it comes to that.
Thank You for video
I actually used not predominantly for thermal, but to keep the CPU thermal paste from covering the exposed parts of the CPU.
My thermalright LGA 1700 contact frame dropped temps on my 12900K like 20c. Before when I would tweak the bios and put on a mild OC like 5.1 ghz it would immediately break 95c plus when I would put on a short stress test. After the contact frame I can hit 5.4ghz stable with an avg temp of 55-60c while gaming. When I stress test max temp it will reach is 78c for a brief second. It's nice to be able to actually OC my 12900K to try to close the gap on bottlenecks with my 4090 when i'm running 1440p benchmarks or just gaming.
Not that I would ever buy anything from Aliexpress but that bracket does look like it would make Thermal paste cleanup/replacement *WAY* easier.
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Did the clocks change with the bracket vs without? Cause AMD's strategy with Zen 4 appears to be to use all available cooling overhead and clock the cores higher instead of dropping temperatures at the same clocks.
I bought this to prevent thermal paste accumulation in open parts of the CPU in addition to the presumed anti bending action
The only reason I would buy that bracket is because it looks like it would do a real good job of keeping thermal paste out of the cpu. The open design the AM5 cpu's have, makes me paranoid about thermal paste getting in there. It looks pretty good, too but then once the cooler is on it can't be seen anyway, so that's a very minor plus.
I bought this off Amazon I heard it stabilized the cooler mount.
I'd like to see you use a premium air cooler like a NH-D15S or better since you are comparing it to a 420mil liquid cooler.
It would be interesting to see if it helps reduce heat transferred into the motherboard around the socket.
Is it possible to use this bracket on AM4 aswell? Looking to install a 5800x3D into my Crosshair VII X470 AM4 board.
Can i use this safe with the thermal grizzly kryonaut sheet or should i worried about electric conection ?
These work and work well. On 12/13 gen or AM5 series.
hmm i think if youre planing on to an itx case with an 7800x3d and a cooler that is at max. 39mm height, this thing is maby better for that case? or still waste of money? what do you think?
1 degree Celsius is margin of error. The problem With the 7000 series CPUS is that the IHS is thicker than what was used for the AM4 CPU's. The CPU's may be soldered but they increased the layer through which the heats needs to travel to reach the CPU Cooler.
They're incredibly thick
yes and no, X series chips are also designed to run up to 95c just like your GPU
I guess if people want lower temps on aircooling, you need to DE-LID the AM5, and of course get a slightly better cooler than a Snowman.
I use a Skythe Fuma2 with 2 full size (not slim) 1800rpm Kaze Flex fans on my 5950x and it works very good, probably for AM5 not enough though unless people delid the CPU.
Hi Brain, i have one for my 13700k just to stop the cpu Bending and what not. But its very easy to install and setup.
Its for setting problem's. If the cpu or mob start to get a gap do to the heat cycle or other things like clamping power. Amd just adapted it after Intel needed it
Thanks
Put a little thermal paste around that bracket so it helps soak heat from the sides of the IHS and it may help a little more.
its made of foam
@@Nethan10Troi As an owner of this bracket, you're 100% wrong
@@ElSkeppo must be confusing it with the CPU Guard then. Cuz thats what this basically is, but a bit fancier.
I have a doubt, can I use the normal water coolers for AM4 ?? Or I need to see if it’s compatible with AM5?
Honestly I just like these brackets cause it makes cleaning the paste off and re-pasting easier. If they have a slight temp improvement even better.
Am5 socket don't need this kind of bracket because it makes even tension across the cpu thanks to "tabs" and square desing , on lga1700 the socket is not making even pressure and this is why it helps :P
The cpu throttling, that wasn't because of the thermalright bracket right? I bought one mainly to keep the paste from running down the sides of the CPU, but I wouldn't want it to make anything worse.
I am building a new AM5 computer soon, but im planning on using Liquid Metal will this help with the security?
But did you get a higher benchmark? The way am 5 cooling works, you should max out on air and get the same temps but different performance
*Hey Bryan, I think we can get better results IF you would "LAP" that bracket (the underside) down !* Anywhere from 0.2 to MAX 0.8 mm !
The contact frame is much lower than the cpu die surface so there is no way to transfer heat to the cooling plate. If it is accurately lapped to the same level of the CPU surface plus a bigger cooling plate area, I think it helps.
You wouldn't want to lap it to the same level, there would always be a gap on one end and you'd created even more stress when there's thermal expansion, which would definitely result in a slight difference in the heights between them. But heatsinks aren't really designed to cool from the entire surface area of itself, only the parts directly below the heatpipes will actually cool down, while the more solid parts will remain hot. So heatsinks are cooler in the center, which is where all the cooling takes place as the hot water inside rises and cools and falls back down, and that's what actually cools everything. I would say this bracket is actually cooling the chip, but in a different way, by making the hot spots less hot, the hot spots that actually reach above max temp but cool off quick enough before the temp sensors themselves get to register it, which is normal in CPU's, since the temp sensors are spread throughout the CPU, and can't be everywhere at once, so over very small areas, the CPU temps actually get even higher than the number stated. So while the temps look the same with the bracket, it's also likely helping to reduce those micro areas where temperatures get extra high. So you end up with overall the same heat being sensed, but it's actually being spread out more evenly even if it is the same temp. I think what this design really needs though is fins on it, cut out from grooves in the surface, like a static heatsink. Just like any other passive heatsink. By doing so, the surface area would increase and it would show better results. The fact is, the aluminum didn't need to be this thick. Just a few millimeters would have been good enough to keep things stable, with the rest being fins cut into the top surface. It'd probably add at least 5c of cooling like that.
@@peoplez129 You have a point there but on thermal expansion, what expands more, the die (with higher temps) or the contact frame?
As mentioned by others, this bracket is not for thermals and testing it as such is pretty much pointless. This bracket is there to prevent the thermal paste getting down into the cutouts.
useful for preventing the thermal paste go into the sides of that goofy am5 IHS which is a pain to clean
Is the bracket snug enough to stop liquid metal from leaking onto the conductive parts of the CPU? Does it make it safe?
It's not a 100% fit. So you got very minor play. But that minor play might be gone when the CPU heats up and the material expands a littlebit. So I can't tell you for sure but it definetly helps keeping thermalpaste out of the cpu gaps.
Good product, just not for the regular consumer, they do nothing to temps though, and do not help with paste either, what they do is distribute mounting pressure, and if you lap them down allow you to lap the cpu past 1.1-1.4mm, although ihs in theory allows you to lap 1.4mm due to having retention on 1 side tolerances are more like 1 to 1.2mm, so you need to replace that to lap the cpu
What happens if I use a Thermal Grizzly KryoSheet Wärmeleitpad, will I have problems with an electrical short? Since this product is conductive, the opposite of thermal paste. THANK YOU!
Did you like this aio on amd cpu?
This bracket is just meant to help stop thermal paste from getting all over the place. nothing more, according to the product description. It does look nice though.
LGA sockets should all use the dual retention arms like 2011 (X79) and 2011-3 (X99) sockets did.
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Can you do a video of the AMD A620 entry-level chipset motherboards but add VRM heatssinks to improve the mobo performance.
Now make a video sanding the IHS and record the temperatures per height lapped and/or sanded! I believe that 1mm less on that IHS just make enough difference.
Honestly, the main thing of note I've found in using this with my 7950x is that, in a new pc build, there's no reason not to put this on your CPU. Worst that could happen is you don't drop temps and your CPU is held down more secure than the build in bracket.
Motherboards should come with this out of the box. It feels like it was made for this.
This is reminding me to not be lazy and install my contact frame for my 13700k. Seems a bit overkill on AM5 though, I don't think they have the warping problems LGA 1700 has.
13th gen undervolts like a champ too. They seriously overvolt the crap out of them. Really good clocks at ~1.2V can be attained compared to 12th gen.
It cannot lower temperatures on AM5, since if it would then the CPU would boost higher and hit the same temperature as before.
It is like that by design. Perhaps on the 3DVcache die a little bit since that cannot boost.
yup got me one of those in red.
Is it fit with 7800x3d? I try other but not fit one. Please answer
1 or 2 degrees is negligible, $8 pretty good price to get more improvement in temperatures. Is there reason why AM5 has issues of temperatures for the CPU die contact with the cooler?
btw ppl i have am4 have an x370 board and a 5600x cpu my temps were a bit weird would fluctuate i tried everything to get my all core oc stable it wasnt happening, I ended up lapping the cpu and realised my chip was made so uneven so defos if you cant get your temps down on amd ryzen lap your cpu down to the copper i did some asus realbench and got a max temp of 70-80 at 1.396-1.406v ... then i played my game of choice vr chat in vr mode it was getting in game 55 degrees then i slept in vr woke up thermal paste settled overnight and now its running at 45 degrees which is amazing btw before the lapping i would run asus realbench at 94 degrees and this was a reading after replacing my thermal paste several times , also the reason i wanted an all core overclock is because i tried pbo oc and although the cpu gets to 4.85ghz it doesnt perform as well as an all core oc even at lower all core clock speeds.... so definately use all core oc's in the bios i went for 4.75ghz on all cores also i noticed all my cores are within a few degrees of each other like 1-2 degrees across all cores after the lapping and i had tried pbo and all core testing with two different cpu coolers and am now using bolts and nuts instead of the am3 hardware that fits on am4 mounting so yeah also got plenty of cooling fans in my case airflow is amazing
I bought and used it on my recent 7800x3d build.
It should be standard with both AMD and Intel.
Intel has an additional issue to solve though. It's still quite easy to damage the pins on the motherboard. You're never really sure about the alignment. There's too much room to wiggle the CPU around inside the socket. Even if they stick with pins on the motherboard they could at least provide a mechanism to improve perfect alignment. Just one pin on every corner would do.
You are awesome.
Let's go new content
It protects the chip and board from excess thermal paste, but no tests show a temp improvement. Only the Intel one had temp effects.
Is this safe to use with Kryosheet? I know it's conductive so i just wanna cross my T's and dot my I's
I HAD thermal issues but it was because my AIO sucked. (Thermaltake 240) The processor kept getting over 89⁰C and shutting down. I bought the Alphacool Eisbaer Pro Aurora and my temps dropped all the way down to 32⁰C - 50⁰C. Big difference.
Aio not working before lol
@@MicaelAzevedo Hence it sucking.
I thought they were just so thermal paste doesn't get under the IHS
I put a razor blade on my 13700K with the original ILM and the ThermalLight bracket, the ILM bends the IHS
can you use them on am4?
Part of me just wants it because of the annoying corner shapes on AM5. They seriously annoy the heck out of me.
I have one I like it a lot, its well designed and high quality
I’m pretty sure the reason these exist is to you don’t get paste in the gaps.
That's what I thought
The contact frame on AM5 is more to avoid thermal paste to go Everyware than to fix any bending issue. Not sure why you was expecting to see any temperature drop with it.
Contact frame made from Fiberglass was superior than metal in LGA1700 in Igor's lab test, maybe Brian could try to replicate!
I used the thermalright 12th gen bracket for my 13900KS and I was able to overclock a Vcore of 1.62V, 355W, single core 6.3G, triple core 6.2G, and all core 5.8G without disabling efficiency cores, the cooling solution is an Asus ROG Strix 360 ARGB AIO and Coolermaster Cryofuze Violet thermal paste, and it never gets past 94C, normal operating temp is around 40-50C. However, that being said, this system with an overclocked Asus ROG Strix 3090Ti OC LC at 2.2Ghz,1.3V, 600W, I can never play Genshin Impact at 2k 60Hz, whereas all my other computers can.
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Would only bus this just to put and the thermal paste easier. I almost spilled some on the mobo socket 😢
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So its cool but its not required as AMD unlike intel design there IHS properly .
Is there one for AM4? :(
Nice, but 3 months after release and no stock in europe, yet? Strange.
i remembered Thermalright sell the contact frame with a thermal paste in china , because they knew it doesn't do much, if $8 only get you the frame than it is not worth it, but if it came with a thermal paste than I guess it is fine
Thermal throttling is intended behavior on Ryzen 7000 on default settings... It's not surprising you're hitting that limit on an air cooler.
Default behavior boosts till it hits whichever limit comes first, power, temp, whatever, if it's all good it'll just keep boosting.
this bracket is not made to lower temps, it's made to give the ihs protection from getting thermal paste below it lol.
I tried too, I have -3 degree different and I live in a hot country, south Italy
Does the 7950x3d run much hotter than the 7800x3d? My 7800x3d runs way cooler than this with a cheap 60$ 280mm aio it uses the stock amd mounting too, like the little plastic things i did undervolt but gah damn this runs hot compared to mine.
you should test in close case, intel and amd chips
The snowman cooler is a copy from the sunbeamtech core contact freezer 120... yep its old tech and only supports 90+W cpus... I have one and as far as I can tell, its good for the ryzen 3 1200 but can hardly contain the heat from even the FX 8370E.. even when using high rpm DELTA fans, even if you use the snowman MT-6... its hardly enough to dissipate the heat from the 7800X3D. Your best bet would still be the NH-D15 but this will not fit most cases....I know this because it hardly fit on my converted Dell XPS 710 case and this thing is huge.