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@@wileecoyote5749 Your comment is sarcastic but is also true. He does have great genetics. How many 60 year-olds in the world can bench 500+ raw and 1000+ equipped, even on PEDs? Without great genetics as a foundation, elite performance is not achievable.
@@Asiansxsymbol how many people have used peds to prove this? how many people are on peds for 50+ years to know it's his "genetics". I truly believe roids can have anyone doing what he is doing. Strength is directly reliant on roids. Real sports aren't. That's why you don't see guys like this coming into real sports. You can't just roid up and become an nba player,nfl star,track star, or gymnast.
Scott Mendelson 715 raw WR and 1008 Equipped WR. Shirts nowadays are thicker, more aggressive, elastic, support, and tighter therefore add more 100s of lbs. Ryan Kennelly is near 700 lb Raw PR and he is hitting 1100 and 1200 lbs equipped currently along with Scott. Tiny Meeker and Jimmy Kolb are the four horsemen of the equipped bench apocalypse currently.
Was Scott still at 715 raw when he hit the 1008 equipped? I thought he stopped raw cause of injuries. So i would expect his raw to be lower during the 1008 equipped. leading to my question, what could he have lifted equipped at his raw peak?
@@quelandil5738 He's said he played around with close to 800 in the gym raw (certainly not competition standards ie probably bounced or not full ROM) but he never went for more than 715 in competition because it was a high injury risk and there was nothing to be gained, at the time everybody was going crazy with the equipped lifting.
@@HonkeyKongLive yup. It shows bench requires a completely different skillset. Pressing power is lower since shirt helps a lot. Seems like you need to improve in stability. Gotta be able to control and balance this huge weight
He finishes where he starts. This is something you have to be aware of with older competitors. If their elbows don't fully extend from the years of heavy lifting, as a judge, you look to make sure the bar returns to its starting point. This would be a competition legal lift. This is more common than you would think for masters lifters.
@@ZaneGeeting I think this is something I've noticed from Jeremy Hoornstra as well, lots of people say his lifts don't look locked out at times but he seems to return to where he starts as well
@@Jackedaniels93 when you start benching heavy weights you'll find that you too have to keep pushing to keep the weight locked out or it will come back down.
People say “shirts don’t add 100’s of pounds, you’re still doing most of the work”. Actually, it hads 500 pounds for this guy, and does over half the work. Idk how anyone takes equipped lifting seriously, it’s litterally the biggest joke ever. It’s like if you asked someone what’s their max vertical and they told you they can jump 10 feet off a trampoline; no matter how high they jump on a tramploline, you only care about what they can do off the ground.
I'm not a hater at all but honestly this is probably the best analogy for benching with a shirt. It's a serious question - what is being demonstrated with this bench? If someone can give me a legitimate answer, I'd be keen to hear it.
@@dukuextra4074 True strength is how much a person can lift while there joints are being supported. Raw lifting is just a test of who has the healthiest joints. Plenty of older lifters can't lift much raw because there joints are shit. Raw lifting isn't a true test of strength because muscles don't lift weights. Fast twitch fibers generate speed and the CNS handles resistance. A person would need 500lbs of reverse band tension pulling up to do what people think a bench shirt does.
@@jameshoffman3614 You said muscles don’t lift weights and then described how the cns uses them to lift weights. Just cuz people develop bad joints doesn’t mean the definition of strength changes. The technique, structure of the lifter, and quality of the shirt determine how much you can bench equipped, which is why you see a 500 pound bencher taking a wr. There are plenty of waaaay stronger benchers than him. And no, you don’t need a suit that adds 500 pounds to your lift in order to “support” your joints. Strength is how much force the actual lifter can produce without counting the force caused by the shirt and it’s that simple.
People keep metioning how 500 pounds is so impressive at his age; yes, true, but can we not ignore the fact that a shirt adds over 500 pounds to his bench? Is that not enough to end the sport of equipped lifting? He has a wr in a sport where the shirt does over half the work for him. There are many way stonger benchers than him who don’t have a wr, because contrary to painfully ignorant opinion, being able to lift more than someone with a shirt doesn’t mean a you have a “different kind” of strength and are stronger in your own way, it means your bench suit works better with you body and technique, yes the bench suit is the determining factor, what a complete joke of a sport, literally pisses me off.
I say this on nearly every one of these comments but equipped lifting is it’s own type of difficult. People don’t understand this until they use equipment. Granted I’ve only ever done singly ply but there’s so much technique that goes into perfecting the use of a shirt. It’s why lifting has records for equipped and raw. They’re two completely different sports. With that being said I do think a guy like Julius Maddox is more impressive.
Raw vs Eqquipped is similar to a high jump vs a pole vault. Both equally impressive in their own aspect. I'd be willing to bet most of the people talking about how the bench shirt lifts the weight for you have never been in a shirt before, that's anything but the truth.
Despite appearing similar equiped, raw, juiced, natty anything are completely different things. Compare conventional/sumo DL, equipped/not equipped DL, juiced/not juiced DL. Juiced to the gills Konstantinovs doing a beltless conventional 426 kilos DL is the best strength feat you can see on the net. But without the steroids, filtering his blood, and self bleeding practices he would be at the level of a 1960's deadlift record. In the early 1970's Doug Hepburn said that if we remove the chemicals the actual records are stuck in the early 60's when it was all natural. That is true to this day. Today there is a long list of equipment plus specialized moves that is so rampant that 99% of the athletes that set records can't work an 8 hour hard physical job to save their life. One day I talked to a guy that was literally wider than he was tall. Asked about DL's he said "Oh no! No way! Too much recovery time needed after DLs...".
That raw bench wasn't locked out at all AND he had sleeves on. I watched the shirted record and that wasn't locked out either. Basically all they're doing now is springing it up from the shirt and managing to hold it in place until the judge says to rack it.
@@kurtwpg how about lowering the weight until he can actually control it with proper technique standards that will be enforced by judges; lifts like that are more like circus acts and not sport competition
I got the honor to meet Bill and his son Cameron. Bill is very humble and was very encouraging at the meet that Liberty University was hosting that I competed in several years back! Very happy for him.
Wow equipped lifting was what held powerlifting back. Why not equip yourself with a floor jack or a forklift? Forklift operators have skill too. Now the the problem with raw PL (to make it relatable to gym goers) is ridiculously small ROM/ the distance the weight is displaced in bench and sumo deads.
Lmao I’m waiting for the day Larry says ‘f it’ and puts up 600 kg equipped. This dude couldn’t even lock out 250kg with minimal range of motion, I’m confident Larry would destroy the equipped record if he wanted to
Finally, something we've all wanted to see. Its obvious equipped lifters cant press nearly what they can raw. This video shows a fail at 250kg, not a questionable lockout it was a fail lol dont sugar coat it. So he can't put up half of what he can equipped. Just shows how much the equipment does and I dont think equipped lifting should even be a thing in competition because its basically cheating thats allowed because the guys can't keep up raw and know it. Far more respect for the raw lifters especially the guys closing in on 800lbs.
You all wrong Geared Bench is soo difficult: -hard to wear the shirt himself -hard to take it off -hard to move with it -hard to breath with it That's it.
wtf would you want to do geared bench. bench itself is the least functional movement of all the compound movements, and the fact that you can lift bigger weight using equipment literally doesn't transfers to anything. ego and stupidity and it's best
@@jotr.9786 its just another sport, man. Pole vault doesn't translate to anything else either. Nor does golf, football, skateboarding, or many other sports that people love to watch or compete in. Why does geared lifting bother you so much, it doesn't affect you in any way.
Bill has competed across five decades and was a three lift powerlifter also with regards to his raw press you must realise he is training for equipped bench press not for raw. He has competed across FIVE decades, He's a wealth of knowledge in our sport.
When u look closely, u see that the equipped record wasn’t locked out, they could move the bar well over his „lockout“, to rerack the weight. I am not a hater, only my thoughts
So this insane shirt could actually giving about 600 pounds as he wasn't even close to locking out 551 despite his elbow wraps (so not raw) and he said his best raw bench is 237Kg (but still great for his age). In my last meet in 1988, I got 19 pounds out of my polyester Inzer Blast Shirt. Did 300 raw in training at 165, and hit 319 in the meet with the shirt--boy times have changed! But recently, I did 264 raw at age 57 weighing 158, but I've torn my rotator cuff three times so no more going heavy. Old age kills heavy lifting, so hats off to this guy for still having functioning joints!
This man has MASTERED equipped benching, no other way to put it. Massive respect. And obviously he is still strong af, even raw he benches more than most of us here deadlift 🤣
I saw 512 and thought that didn't seem like much. Then I realized it was KG not LBS! I feel my forearms straining above 450. I can't imagine what that kind of weight would feel like.
Not an iffy lockout. A non-existent lockout. Congratulations on the big numbers, but let’s not reinvent the definition of a bench press. 1/2 rep, no rep, no record. It’s unfair to the next person who wants to aim for a record. If this were lifting for fun, rules wouldn’t matter. But all people need to be held to the same standard when we start counting lifts toward records.
This shit should be illegal. It's a fucking joke and the chance of injury might be even bigger. Don't give this ridiculousness publicity. Let it die out before it evolves into exoskeleton equipped benching or some shit like that.
Fuck equipped.. Might as well install hydraulics into the shirt too and press over a ton.. Only raw counts cause it's you VS the weight and nothing else....
He’s 62 years old so his joints are expected to be a little beat up and have lockout issues. So I am not going to hammer him for the lockout issues. Still an impressive bench none the less!
Can't bench 250kg raw but with a load of silly equipment he can do over double. This is why people don't care about or even resect equipped benching because doesn't have a lot to do with strength.
This guy was the strength Coach of the Seattle Seahawks, lifts since 50 years without injuries. He should be everyones Idol. Podcasts with him are absolutely eye opening about so many things
The second video kinda confirms my theory that his equipped world record bench was not a full lockout either. Kinda takes away from the record but still is impressive to be able to throw that weight off the chest.
this is why Jimmy Kolb benches equiped because his raw would be laughable. that goes for every equipped bencher they starve for attention because they cant lift shit without that shirt.
He is just really strong in his back apparently he is able to wear even tighter equipment and still pull it to his chest so he is able to get even more spring out of his shirt than others
I just don't understand why equipped lifting with suits is a thing or why it's even talked about. It's just a competition of suit technology and not actual human strength
It's been obvious for many years to people that while it's awesome that equipped people can even hold that kind of weight the equipment they are doing often is doing half the work or more, which puts them way below the top RAW lifters. This is the reason why a lot of people don't even consider equipped lifters. Especially equipped bench which is helped out a LOT more by the equipment than other lifts are (Other than straps used for grip in deadlift)
@@9999-k9q You don't seem to understand what you read. So I will clarify. Bench shirt helps more for bench than any other equipment used BY A LOT other than straps. This implies the difference between bench shirt and straps aren't as large as Bench shirt vs all other equipment on other lifts. Which is true. The RAW bench press world record is 355kg. The equipped is 512.5. The equipped used bench shirt and slingshot. Slingshot is responsible for almost half of the difference between the 2. So again Yes bench shirt helps more than straps but no it's not 10000x more helpful.
This is why equipped lifting is just dumb, it's not like it just gives you a little boost to performance like knee wraps or something it can double your bench!
I remember when I completed in gear around 2004-2008 a good super heavyweight might get 200 additional pounds with a bench shirt at the top end - getting 600 additional is mind blowing. It’s possible after so many years training his shoulders are limiting what he can press raw but that still wouldn’t account for the difference.
Lol same, i bench 315 for reps without any equipment. It sickens me when ppl tell me they can get bench over 400+ but failed to mention that it was with a bench shirt. You might as well as get a crane to lift it for you.
The whole notion of a equipped lifting is ridiculous! The man is benching twice his raw bench due to equipment only. This is a celebration of technology . It’s a sham and such events should not even be covered by the media.
This guy is a monster, 99.999% of people any age who lift will never be able to even move a 550 bench off their chest, let alone someone who is 62. Yes he did not lock it out but that was still extremely impressive to see
Given that he didn’t get 250 in that clip by a country mile his equipped is well over double. A lot of respect for hitting near 250kg at his age, but I think this shows what a joke equipped bench is (more so than other lifts).
Firstly, don't take me wrong, 250kg is a big number, I wouldn't be able to lift it, but the guy holds a record in pointless Equipped and he couldn't even lockout 250kg at Raw, which is not that impressive nowadays on his level, skill and his body weight, that's just hilarious.
What's impressive to me about equipped lifting is if you put someone like Julius Maddox in a bench shirt more than likely he would not be able to set a world record in equipped lifting, but with this guy he can do double his raw, and trust me there is nothing easy about EquIpped lifting its still heavy as hell.
Is it possible his raw potential is actually higher but the specificity of equipped technique (ie the shirt groove) doesn’t allow for the best display of his raw strength? His raw and equipped bar paths seemed pretty similar.
I feel like slingshots and elbow wraps on bench press make it so that the weak link can actually be your grip. I've lost my grip on deadlift before, but never felt like I was straining to hold the weight on bench press. Granted, I'm moving raw numbers in LBS what this guy moves in KG's. Still, I've seen a lot of equipped benchers drop the weight on themselves, far more so than raw benchers.
How was that a 250 kg bench press when he wasn't even close to pushing it back up without help from the spotter. He lit pushed it an inch from where the spotter left off... Lol I get he's old but still it's not even a close legit bench..
Equipped lifting isnt dumb... Its like asking a 100m run wr holder to do a fucking 40km marathon. 2 entirely different things. Equipped benching is skill. For example, maddox benches 355, but cant bench this much in a shirt, right?
@@dhdhensmsm3280 Its more like comparing running with bicycling. Sure, you are using your legs and doing the movements but the equipment is doing so much
Listen you can call all the skill in the world folks but the FACT is the dude benches 550. Everyone get that. That equals over 550 lbs of lifting his SUIT does. Now i certainly gotta give these guys all the credit in the world for holding up the weight period. But lets all remember he is literally only pressing 550 at most the dam shirt is doing the rest. I want to know if they have a division in which the good bencher like say myself (440) raw not great by any standard but not bad. Like can i have a division where the bench bar is attached to a hydraulic hook that is attached to the ceiling an helps me lift it off my body? I bet i could hit at least a grand.
I was going to compete in equipped, but they told me there wasn't room on the bar to hold all the plates I would need. So I decided against because of that... and because it's stupid.
I'm a raw bencher, I have a dislike for geared lifting mainly because in my fed us raw lifters have to go up against these guys in comp for highest bench trophy/award. I came 2nd last meet with a 202.5kg raw bench! The winner pressed 260kg in multiply shirt. His lift was questionable at best! Couldn't even get it near the rack I.e start position at end of the lift! The spotters had to deadlift it into the rack! This left a bitter taste in my mouth as I trained so hard for the win only to have it stolen by a weaker lifter! Judges tried saying they deduct 10% off the geared lifter to make it fair on raw lifters. How is 10% fair 🤔 this guy struggled with 140kg raw in warmup room 🤣 anyway that's why I dislike geared lifting.
I think, cuz he is an older lifter, make sense the increase in weight w/ shirt being more dramatic. Age its a big factor in raw BP, cuz of joint health and possible past injuries; maybe the age factor doesnt play that much in equip BP, making the difference betwen the numbers bigger.
doesn't translate necessarily. they're entirely different movements, equipped benching is more about learning the technique than absolute strength imo. if Maddox can learn how to use a bench shirt, i think he could easily push somewhere near that tho
Not really. It doesn't automatically double your lifts, getting the most out of your equipment is a skill in and of itself, aswell as the lift itself changing quite a lot on a technical level.
Julius Maddox, an ex-basketball player, said it best: "Using a suit to bench press is like using a trampoline to dunk a basketball." The problem, however, isn't equipped 'bench pressing", per se, the problem is that these clowns insist on calling it 'bench pressing' in the first place. The world record holder in the pole vault doesn't claim that he can high jump more than 20 feet. If these buffoons simply had the class to call what they do anything other than 'bench pressing' then people would stop calling them out on their Bullscheisse.
If I’m not thinking wrong, am I the only one that notices that powerlifters lift a bit less at the competition than the gym? If so, what makes it harder for them to lift at the competition that they can’t lift as much as they lift at the gym?
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This channel is the only competetive lifting channel I regularly check out.
That definitely wasn't a lockout at 250kg. Crazy how equipped doubles his numbers.
Great genetics doubles numbers
Ha Ha
@@wileecoyote5749 Your comment is sarcastic but is also true. He does have great genetics. How many 60 year-olds in the world can bench 500+ raw and 1000+ equipped, even on PEDs? Without great genetics as a foundation, elite performance is not achievable.
@@Asiansxsymbol literally 1
@@Asiansxsymbol how many people have used peds to prove this? how many people are on peds for 50+ years to know it's his "genetics". I truly believe roids can have anyone doing what he is doing. Strength is directly reliant on roids. Real sports aren't. That's why you don't see guys like this coming into real sports. You can't just roid up and become an nba player,nfl star,track star, or gymnast.
It wasn't even close he pushed it an inch and then the spotter lifted it up most click bait shit ever
Scott Mendelson 715 raw WR and 1008 Equipped WR. Shirts nowadays are thicker, more aggressive, elastic, support, and tighter therefore add more 100s of lbs. Ryan Kennelly is near 700 lb Raw PR and he is hitting 1100 and 1200 lbs equipped currently along with Scott. Tiny Meeker and Jimmy Kolb are the four horsemen of the equipped bench apocalypse currently.
Was Scott still at 715 raw when he hit the 1008 equipped? I thought he stopped raw cause of injuries. So i would expect his raw to be lower during the 1008 equipped. leading to my question, what could he have lifted equipped at his raw peak?
@@quelandil5738 He's said he played around with close to 800 in the gym raw (certainly not competition standards ie probably bounced or not full ROM) but he never went for more than 715 in competition because it was a high injury risk and there was nothing to be gained, at the time everybody was going crazy with the equipped lifting.
The most telling thing is that Mendy literally can't bench raw anymore thanks to injuries but he benches huge in a shirt.
@@HonkeyKongLive yup. It shows bench requires a completely different skillset. Pressing power is lower since shirt helps a lot. Seems like you need to improve in stability. Gotta be able to control and balance this huge weight
Ironman suits next
"Iffy" there really was no lockout
So basically he wears a shirt that converts Lb into Kg
Never knew the shirt could add 600 lbs. Most opinions seemed to be maybe 300ish. Still, 550ish at 62 years old is insane.
Well it works differently for everyone, won't add half that for most people, buy it obviously helps, hence why we have equipped and raw meets
These new F8 style shirts are nothing like traditional bench shirts which typically add between 100 and 300 lbs.
It’s cuz using a bench shirt is an acquired skill. It won’t immediately add hundreds of pounds but after years of practice it can
@@emersonvlog8902 The first time I ever used a shirt, I was able to do about 5lbs over my best raw bench. Within 2 months, I was at almost 70lbs.
Well, i think if he had always spesifically trained bench for raw, he would bench well over 600lbs. Benching with a shirt is so much different
I mean the lockout isn't "iffy", it's literally a half rep. But for me it is still more impressive than the equipped max at his age.
not even half
He finishes where he starts. This is something you have to be aware of with older competitors. If their elbows don't fully extend from the years of heavy lifting, as a judge, you look to make sure the bar returns to its starting point. This would be a competition legal lift. This is more common than you would think for masters lifters.
@@ZaneGeeting I think this is something I've noticed from Jeremy Hoornstra as well, lots of people say his lifts don't look locked out at times but he seems to return to where he starts as well
@@ZaneGeeting bro he was literally keep pushing lol
@@Jackedaniels93 when you start benching heavy weights you'll find that you too have to keep pushing to keep the weight locked out or it will come back down.
People say “shirts don’t add 100’s of pounds, you’re still doing most of the work”. Actually, it hads 500 pounds for this guy, and does over half the work. Idk how anyone takes equipped lifting seriously, it’s litterally the biggest joke ever. It’s like if you asked someone what’s their max vertical and they told you they can jump 10 feet off a trampoline; no matter how high they jump on a tramploline, you only care about what they can do off the ground.
Damn and here I was thinking I don’t care how high they jump at all
I'm not a hater at all but honestly this is probably the best analogy for benching with a shirt. It's a serious question - what is being demonstrated with this bench? If someone can give me a legitimate answer, I'd be keen to hear it.
@@dukuextra4074 It demonstrates that he lifted more than other people that also use shirts, thats about it.
@@dukuextra4074 True strength is how much a person can lift while there joints are being supported. Raw lifting is just a test of who has the healthiest joints. Plenty of older lifters can't lift much raw because there joints are shit. Raw lifting isn't a true test of strength because muscles don't lift weights. Fast twitch fibers generate speed and the CNS handles resistance. A person would need 500lbs of reverse band tension pulling up to do what people think a bench shirt does.
@@jameshoffman3614 You said muscles don’t lift weights and then described how the cns uses them to lift weights. Just cuz people develop bad joints doesn’t mean the definition of strength changes. The technique, structure of the lifter, and quality of the shirt determine how much you can bench equipped, which is why you see a 500 pound bencher taking a wr. There are plenty of waaaay stronger benchers than him. And no, you don’t need a suit that adds 500 pounds to your lift in order to “support” your joints. Strength is how much force the actual lifter can produce without counting the force caused by the shirt and it’s that simple.
Wow this is literally the question everybody wanted to know and you delivered on the coverage immediately. Big props 👏
People keep metioning how 500 pounds is so impressive at his age; yes, true, but can we not ignore the fact that a shirt adds over 500 pounds to his bench? Is that not enough to end the sport of equipped lifting? He has a wr in a sport where the shirt does over half the work for him. There are many way stonger benchers than him who don’t have a wr, because contrary to painfully ignorant opinion, being able to lift more than someone with a shirt doesn’t mean a you have a “different kind” of strength and are stronger in your own way, it means your bench suit works better with you body and technique, yes the bench suit is the determining factor, what a complete joke of a sport, literally pisses me off.
Well said
Not even a sport. Wheres the athletic component of equipped?
I say this on nearly every one of these comments but equipped lifting is it’s own type of difficult. People don’t understand this until they use equipment. Granted I’ve only ever done singly ply but there’s so much technique that goes into perfecting the use of a shirt. It’s why lifting has records for equipped and raw. They’re two completely different sports.
With that being said I do think a guy like Julius Maddox is more impressive.
Raw vs Eqquipped is similar to a high jump vs a pole vault. Both equally impressive in their own aspect. I'd be willing to bet most of the people talking about how the bench shirt lifts the weight for you have never been in a shirt before, that's anything but the truth.
Racecar driving is the worst worst of all time. Sure they go fast, but the car is doing the whole thing for them
They should be giving the WR to the shirt companies.
Despite appearing similar equiped, raw, juiced, natty anything are completely different things. Compare conventional/sumo DL, equipped/not equipped DL, juiced/not juiced DL.
Juiced to the gills Konstantinovs doing a beltless conventional 426 kilos DL is the best strength feat you can see on the net. But without the steroids, filtering his blood, and self bleeding practices he would be at the level of a 1960's deadlift record.
In the early 1970's Doug Hepburn said that if we remove the chemicals the actual records are stuck in the early 60's when it was all natural. That is true to this day.
Today there is a long list of equipment plus specialized moves that is so rampant that 99% of the athletes that set records can't work an 8 hour hard physical job to save their life.
One day I talked to a guy that was literally wider than he was tall. Asked about DL's he said "Oh no! No way! Too much recovery time needed after DLs...".
That raw bench wasn't locked out at all AND he had sleeves on. I watched the shirted record and that wasn't locked out either. Basically all they're doing now is springing it up from the shirt and managing to hold it in place until the judge says to rack it.
in the suit lift there was no pause at the bottom, no lockout at the top, he didnt seem to wait for the commands; it was just a touch and go half rep
How's he going to pause at the bottom? He'd have to yank downward with hundreds of pounds of force.
@@kurtwpg how about lowering the weight until he can actually control it with proper technique standards that will be enforced by judges; lifts like that are more like circus acts and not sport competition
Wow what a surprise, equipped powerlifting passing any garbage lift and having 0 standards whatsoever? So weird it doesnt make the Olympics
I got the honor to meet Bill and his son Cameron. Bill is very humble and was very encouraging at the meet that Liberty University was hosting that I competed in several years back! Very happy for him.
Wow equipped lifting was what held powerlifting back. Why not equip yourself with a floor jack or a forklift? Forklift operators have skill too.
Now the the problem with raw PL (to make it relatable to gym goers) is ridiculously small ROM/ the distance the weight is displaced in bench and sumo deads.
suno is a joke and low rom benching with huge arch, too
He definitely didn’t lock that bench out but for him to move it halfway he’s pretty strong for his age.
For his age? For any age.
Lmao I’m waiting for the day Larry says ‘f it’ and puts up 600 kg equipped. This dude couldn’t even lock out 250kg with minimal range of motion, I’m confident Larry would destroy the equipped record if he wanted to
His best raw contest lift is 523.6 lbs. Lifting Vault should have shown a video of that lift instead of the 551 gym lift.
Finally, something we've all wanted to see. Its obvious equipped lifters cant press nearly what they can raw. This video shows a fail at 250kg, not a questionable lockout it was a fail lol dont sugar coat it. So he can't put up half of what he can equipped. Just shows how much the equipment does and I dont think equipped lifting should even be a thing in competition because its basically cheating thats allowed because the guys can't keep up raw and know it. Far more respect for the raw lifters especially the guys closing in on 800lbs.
It isn't cheating if you're allowed to do it in the rules!!
You all wrong Geared Bench is soo difficult:
-hard to wear the shirt himself
-hard to take it off
-hard to move with it
-hard to breath with it
That's it.
@@TheJackOfAllTrades777 i dont know if i will watch some bench or a man suffocating
Throw one on and show us how easy it is.
@@ZaneGeeting read my comment again
wtf would you want to do geared bench. bench itself is the least functional movement of all the compound movements, and the fact that you can lift bigger weight using equipment literally doesn't transfers to anything. ego and stupidity and it's best
@@jotr.9786 its just another sport, man. Pole vault doesn't translate to anything else either. Nor does golf, football, skateboarding, or many other sports that people love to watch or compete in. Why does geared lifting bother you so much, it doesn't affect you in any way.
Bill has competed across five decades and was a three lift powerlifter also with regards to his raw press you must realise he is training for equipped bench press not for raw. He has competed across FIVE decades, He's a wealth of knowledge in our sport.
250kg with sbd sleeves too and no lockout. Equipt lifting is fake lifting.
I really don't care about equipped lifting and this is why. He literally benches twice the weight with it on
He can't lockout 250kg
Equipped lifting is just another way of saying ego lifting.
A little strange that he can't lock out since the equipped bench looked good. His tricep power has to be enormous so maybe elbow issues?
That's a good point actual, you would think the lockout would be his strength
Yes. Very common with older lifters.
Most likely is a elbow issue given his age
When u look closely, u see that the equipped record wasn’t locked out, they could move the bar well over his „lockout“, to rerack the weight. I am not a hater, only my thoughts
@@jim_2909 - yes, but if you show the judges beforehand that you physically can't extend your elbows💯 it's a good lift.
So this insane shirt could actually giving about 600 pounds as he wasn't even close to locking out 551 despite his elbow wraps (so not raw) and he said his best raw bench is 237Kg (but still great for his age). In my last meet in 1988, I got 19 pounds out of my polyester Inzer Blast Shirt. Did 300 raw in training at 165, and hit 319 in the meet with the shirt--boy times have changed! But recently, I did 264 raw at age 57 weighing 158, but I've torn my rotator cuff three times so no more going heavy. Old age kills heavy lifting, so hats off to this guy for still having functioning joints!
I can bench about 1500 in my bench shirt, as long as the hydraulic fluid isn't low.
This man has MASTERED equipped benching, no other way to put it. Massive respect. And obviously he is still strong af, even raw he benches more than most of us here deadlift 🤣
@@sosexyimsexy1673 BOOO GET OUTA HERE!!!
He didn't lock out the world record equipped lift or that 250kg raw
I saw 512 and thought that didn't seem like much. Then I realized it was KG not LBS! I feel my forearms straining above 450. I can't imagine what that kind of weight would feel like.
Heavy
Does he ever lock his elbows out?
Not an iffy lockout. A non-existent lockout. Congratulations on the big numbers, but let’s not reinvent the definition of a bench press.
1/2 rep, no rep, no record. It’s unfair to the next person who wants to aim for a record.
If this were lifting for fun, rules wouldn’t matter. But all people need to be held to the same standard when we start counting lifts toward records.
It’s literally a gym lift
This shit should be illegal. It's a fucking joke and the chance of injury might be even bigger.
Don't give this ridiculousness publicity. Let it die out before it evolves into exoskeleton equipped benching or some shit like that.
i currently bench 135lbs for a 1 rep max, so if i add a bench shirt, i will be repping out 725lbs 😈😈
Well, you probably could rep out 725 lbs using a forklift or a crane.
I always thought equipped only added 20-30% more, not 100% lol
Equipped bench is the most stupid lift of any in the world. Absolute joke of a lift.
"Kind of iffy"
fully equipped record, wrist wraps record, wrist + elbows record, only bench shirt record. jesus, everybody gets a recod nowadays.
Fuck equipped.. Might as well install hydraulics into the shirt too and press over a ton.. Only raw counts cause it's you VS the weight and nothing else....
From 250 to 500 kilos.....what a joke.
I gained a bit over 100 lbs equipped. At 47 years old. I did 530 in competition.
I bench 315 and im 26😭
Half rep raw, wouldn't get 1 light for that lift more like 220
He’s 62 years old so his joints are expected to be a little beat up and have lockout issues. So I am not going to hammer him for the lockout issues. Still an impressive bench none the less!
I have a new "equipped" shirt with mini hydraulics that can get me to the one tonne range. Notice I didn't mention ton.
Imagine adding 262,5kg to you lift with equippment, oh wait...
Fuck equipped lifting.
I don't care what anyone's "equipped" bench press is.
Can't bench 250kg raw but with a load of silly equipment he can do over double. This is why people don't care about or even resect equipped benching because doesn't have a lot to do with strength.
This guy was the strength Coach of the Seattle Seahawks, lifts since 50 years without injuries. He should be everyones Idol. Podcasts with him are absolutely eye opening about so many things
horse sh*t way of thinking
Equipped lifts are a joke.
The second video kinda confirms my theory that his equipped world record bench was not a full lockout either. Kinda takes away from the record but still is impressive to be able to throw that weight off the chest.
this is why Jimmy Kolb benches equiped because his raw would be laughable. that goes for every equipped bencher they starve for attention because they cant lift shit without that shirt.
I agree
Might as well have a forklift behind you helping out🤣
My question is how does he get so much more out of the suit than guys like Scot Mendelssohn who are legit 700+ raw benchers.
Maybe he's weaker near the bottom where a suit helps the most but has extremely strong triceps. Just my guess.
@@MighoulEL Not even. His weakness is clearly the lockout if you watch him on both his raw and equipped maxes.
He is just really strong in his back apparently he is able to wear even tighter equipment and still pull it to his chest so he is able to get even more spring out of his shirt than others
@@KaokashinPlays What a joke lol
Cuz his shirts better
I just don't understand why equipped lifting with suits is a thing or why it's even talked about. It's just a competition of suit technology and not actual human strength
if the arms can extend upwards another 8 inches, it wasn't a lockout.
Neither one of the lifts were locked out properly. Judging has fallen off Tremendously
He Bench 523,6lbs /237.5kg raw at the 2021 365Strong Holiday Powerlifting Classic
He couldnt lock 250 with elbow assisted
It's been obvious for many years to people that while it's awesome that equipped people can even hold that kind of weight the equipment they are doing often is doing half the work or more, which puts them way below the top RAW lifters. This is the reason why a lot of people don't even consider equipped lifters. Especially equipped bench which is helped out a LOT more by the equipment than other lifts are (Other than straps used for grip in deadlift)
Wtf bench shirt helps 10000x more than straps
@@9999-k9q You don't seem to understand what you read. So I will clarify. Bench shirt helps more for bench than any other equipment used BY A LOT other than straps. This implies the difference between bench shirt and straps aren't as large as Bench shirt vs all other equipment on other lifts. Which is true. The RAW bench press world record is 355kg. The equipped is 512.5. The equipped used bench shirt and slingshot. Slingshot is responsible for almost half of the difference between the 2. So again Yes bench shirt helps more than straps but no it's not 10000x more helpful.
@@Delabeled bullshit bench shirt helps waaayyy more straps add 10kg to your deadlift at best unless ur an exception with very bad grip
@@9999-k9q Comments like this show you have no experience and have no idea what you are talking about.
@@Delabeled you're literally saying bench shirt helps as much as straps on deadlift.
Now I'm curious what Julius can bench equipped if he trained for it for a year
This is why equipped lifting is just dumb, it's not like it just gives you a little boost to performance like knee wraps or something it can double your bench!
Even knee wraps can add 150 at the top levels
Looking at those lockouts, I don't think I've seen him bench anything yet... Form counts, people
I remember when I completed in gear around 2004-2008 a good super heavyweight might get 200 additional pounds with a bench shirt at the top end - getting 600 additional is mind blowing. It’s possible after so many years training his shoulders are limiting what he can press raw but that still wouldn’t account for the difference.
i really dont respect the equipped bench pressers
I have no respect for equipped bench press records.
Lol same, i bench 315 for reps without any equipment. It sickens me when ppl tell me they can get bench over 400+ but failed to mention that it was with a bench shirt. You might as well as get a crane to lift it for you.
Try it
Then powerlifters make biggest hill on bench😂
I am the fastest man in the world in the 40 yard dash when i am in my car..
We don't care
that lock out looked kind of "iffy" - Hahaha
John hack can bench more raw then this guy and with a closer grip and no elbow sleeves.
No shit son
And john hack is 2x younger
The guy in his late 20s? Lol. This guy is in his 60s.
elbow sleeves doesn't increase strength bro
@@mm-fj6kg yeah it does for people with elbow pain without them
imagine julius maddox doing a bench press with equipment
The whole notion of a equipped lifting is ridiculous! The man is benching twice his raw bench due to equipment only. This is a celebration of technology . It’s a sham and such events should not even be covered by the media.
What can he do raw? I wanna know what he can do equipped if he had to lock it out
This guy is a monster, 99.999% of people any age who lift will never be able to even move a 550 bench off their chest, let alone someone who is 62. Yes he did not lock it out but that was still extremely impressive to see
Equipped bench is a joke. I just don’t get it, like at all. The gear takes so much of the load, why bother?
Given that he didn’t get 250 in that clip by a country mile his equipped is well over double. A lot of respect for hitting near 250kg at his age, but I think this shows what a joke equipped bench is (more so than other lifts).
Firstly, don't take me wrong, 250kg is a big number, I wouldn't be able to lift it, but the guy holds a record in pointless Equipped and he couldn't even lockout 250kg at Raw, which is not that impressive nowadays on his level, skill and his body weight, that's just hilarious.
What's impressive to me about equipped lifting is if you put someone like Julius Maddox in a bench shirt more than likely he would not be able to set a world record in equipped lifting, but with this guy he can do double his raw, and trust me there is nothing easy about EquIpped lifting its still heavy as hell.
Honestly I didn’t even expect 500lb. Impressive
Is it possible his raw potential is actually higher but the specificity of equipped technique (ie the shirt groove) doesn’t allow for the best display of his raw strength? His raw and equipped bar paths seemed pretty similar.
Hoping equipped benching will fade into obscurity and Raw is seen as the record that really matters.
Definitely has an elbow issue which makes sense why there is a large gap between the equip to raw ratio. Still strong af.
I feel like slingshots and elbow wraps on bench press make it so that the weak link can actually be your grip. I've lost my grip on deadlift before, but never felt like I was straining to hold the weight on bench press. Granted, I'm moving raw numbers in LBS what this guy moves in KG's. Still, I've seen a lot of equipped benchers drop the weight on themselves, far more so than raw benchers.
Strong regardless but that 551 was taken with soft elbows and then wasn’t locked out. Doesn’t really matter but not exactly a good comparison
How was that a 250 kg bench press when he wasn't even close to pushing it back up without help from the spotter. He lit pushed it an inch from where the spotter left off... Lol I get he's old but still it's not even a close legit bench..
In the future of equipped lifting, I wonder if they will incorporate mech suits
Benches half a ton, cant lock out 250. Thats why equipped "lifting" is dumb.
Yeah it’s stupid. It literally adds over 500lbs to your bench. What’s the point. So dumb
Equipped lifting is so weird. If the game is about who can use the special shirt the best, is it really a benching or strength competition
Equipped lifting isnt dumb... Its like asking a 100m run wr holder to do a fucking 40km marathon. 2 entirely different things. Equipped benching is skill. For example, maddox benches 355, but cant bench this much in a shirt, right?
@@dhdhensmsm3280 still it seems like which shirt can bench more not the competitor
@@dhdhensmsm3280 Its more like comparing running with bicycling. Sure, you are using your legs and doing the movements but the equipment is doing so much
Listen you can call all the skill in the world folks but the FACT is the dude benches 550. Everyone get that. That equals over 550 lbs of lifting his SUIT does. Now i certainly gotta give these guys all the credit in the world for holding up the weight period. But lets all remember he is literally only pressing 550 at most the dam shirt is doing the rest. I want to know if they have a division in which the good bencher like say myself (440) raw not great by any standard but not bad. Like can i have a division where the bench bar is attached to a hydraulic hook that is attached to the ceiling an helps me lift it off my body? I bet i could hit at least a grand.
It was almost a belly toss.
I was going to compete in equipped, but they told me there wasn't room on the bar to hold all the plates I would need. So I decided against because of that...
and because it's stupid.
How does someone's wrists and elbows don't crumble holding half a ton???
I'm a raw bencher, I have a dislike for geared lifting mainly because in my fed us raw lifters have to go up against these guys in comp for highest bench trophy/award. I came 2nd last meet with a 202.5kg raw bench! The winner pressed 260kg in multiply shirt. His lift was questionable at best! Couldn't even get it near the rack I.e start position at end of the lift! The spotters had to deadlift it into the rack! This left a bitter taste in my mouth as I trained so hard for the win only to have it stolen by a weaker lifter! Judges tried saying they deduct 10% off the geared lifter to make it fair on raw lifters. How is 10% fair 🤔 this guy struggled with 140kg raw in warmup room 🤣 anyway that's why I dislike geared lifting.
First person ive seen that actually has a legit reason to hate equipped lifting. Then again, you should hate your fed instead
I think, cuz he is an older lifter, make sense the increase in weight w/ shirt being more dramatic. Age its a big factor in raw BP, cuz of joint health and possible past injuries; maybe the age factor doesnt play that much in equip BP, making the difference betwen the numbers bigger.
equipped is just a joke.
Does that mean Maddox can do 700kg equipped?
Absolutely NOT!!!
doesn't translate necessarily. they're entirely different movements, equipped benching is more about learning the technique than absolute strength imo. if Maddox can learn how to use a bench shirt, i think he could easily push somewhere near that tho
Not really. It doesn't automatically double your lifts, getting the most out of your equipment is a skill in and of itself, aswell as the lift itself changing quite a lot on a technical level.
@@baritonewarshawsky He wouldn't get anywhere close to 700kg, maybe 550kg.
No.
Julius Maddox, an ex-basketball player, said it best: "Using a suit to bench press is like using a trampoline to dunk a basketball." The problem, however, isn't equipped 'bench pressing", per se, the problem is that these clowns insist on calling it 'bench pressing' in the first place. The world record holder in the pole vault doesn't claim that he can high jump more than 20 feet. If these buffoons simply had the class to call what they do anything other than 'bench pressing' then people would stop calling them out on their Bullscheisse.
If I’m not thinking wrong, am I the only one that notices that powerlifters lift a bit less at the competition than the gym? If so, what makes it harder for them to lift at the competition that they can’t lift as much as they lift at the gym?
Let’s not forget he is 62. Both are impressive.
The real question is how much can Danial Zamani and Julius Maddox bench equipped? 😳
So the bungee shirts add 600lbs ??
How does the subscriber highlight work do they DM him or something?
Could he lift 200kg with competition standard? I mean no elbow sleeves, locked elbows, arse on the bench...
equipped lifting is not lifting