@@backofficeshow Hi there, i just recently bought a 9-3 2.0t that might need a future turbo change, do you think a "beginner" could try changing it through tutorials? Or should i give it to someone else to change?
New turbos are required to have a pre-lube of oil that you fill about 2 oz. into the oil port of the turbo or risk damage of running the turbo dry... there is also turbo hardware you can purchase than to use the 7 old bolts plus it is a hassle to reuse the old ones but if you wanted to save on money I can understand but all gaskets and O-rings needs to be replaced... You are missing 2 O-rings - there is an large O-ring [ Intake hose ring ] that goes between connection of the turbo charger intake pipe and turbo and the smaller O-ring that goes at the end of the turbo return line... I could not tell if you forgot to place the metal gasket onto the TD04 manifold head - the raised rectangular inner seal prevents exhaust leak that can cause an issue with boost?
Hi - good vid - I noticed you added 5W 30 engine oil. The handbook on the 95 Aero states to ONLY use 0W 30 or 0W 40 engine oil. I just wondered why you used a more viscus oil? My mechanic says to use 5W 30, but this is not what the handbook stipulates - Thanks
There really isn't much between a zero weight and a 5 weight oil and the winters here are pretty mild so I think it's fine. Depends on where you live really.
Thanks a million for sharing - was looking at a turbo from the same supplier... is yours still running good? Oh and did you get stung with a customs charge?
Excellent! Will pull the trigger on the purchase! Thanks again for doing the Vids - not many tubers demonstrating installs a detailed view of the China turbos recently.
I wish I’d seen this 5 years ago when the turbo on my 1999 2.0t blew. Cost me well over £300 to get a garage to do it. My « new » 9-5 is 2.3T Aero from 2004 which has a Mitsubishi HOT fitted. I believe (hope!) these are less prone to failure than the Garret. Can anyone confirm ? Or is this just wishful thinking on my part?
What do you suppose happened to the pieces of your old intake turbine blades? Were they sitting in the turbine, fall to the ground? Caught in the intercooler? Sitting at a low spot? Processed through the engine?
+djmips blown through the engine I suspect As I feel they would have been filed off. Either way it does not seem to have any issues. They are such a soft material I suspect they get stamped flat by the pistons or escape as fillings through the exhaust or down the cylinder bores.
Hi From Denver, CO., thanks for the video. I'm doing one in an '01 9-5. Picked the car up for $500 about 3 years ago and for the last year or so it's been smoking at start up. Took a chance when I found a new one on Amazon for $110. It looks identical to the one that was on it, even the stamp is the same. But forgot to prime it and was looking for a way to do it without pulling it back apart.I am going to disconnect the cassette but I think I will also pull the oil feed line bolt and inject some in there. Thanks again.
At the least I would disconnect the ignition cassette and turn the car over on the starter for a while. I think that is pretty much all I did, but if you have the patience to get oil in there it shouldn't harm it.
@@backofficeshow Yeah, I just unplugged the cassette, it took longer than I thought for the oil light to go out but it did, then I started it and works fine. I was really surprised that the turbo looked and felt so good for only $110. I mean it looked identical to the original. The old one worked but my throttle body was covered in oil and it would smoke at startup. Found 2 exhaust manifold studs broken but that's for another day. It's my girlfriends car and she doesn't drive much.
Great video, well done. Is this the only way to remove the studs (from flanges) to put onto the replacement? Also was the purpose of cutting the studs ultimately due to fitment?
Once doing a turbo change, it's easy and a waste not to clean the sump which almost always is the source of turbo-failure on these cars. Also when doing a turbo change the Intercooler needs to come out to be cleaned, since it is on the air side it won't work again unless it's cleaned.
+Luke Robbo I'm not sure it's performing that the previous turbo (when it was working) but it's significantly better than a dead turbo 😂 I would say it is a great replacement part. Several thousand miles later it's still fine, no issues
Great video! Watched it several times to understand each step before installing my new Chinese turbo. Little bit of a struggle removing and replacing the "original 18 year old turbo" and some of the stubborn banjo bolts and tricky feeder lines. But with some new parts and additional time I've gotten everything placed back together. My only problem now, is it's leaking oil and the oil pressure light came back on within 2-3 minutes after starting it. My plan is to get back under it to check/tighten all the bolts again. Perhaps I left one loose or there is a missing washer somewhere. Is it necessary to have copper washers (top and bottom) on all the banjo bolt fittings?
Nice Job, I would replace mine but I'm ashamed to admit my Saab/Subaru does not actually have a turbo in my model😔 Last thing I did was put some lowered spring and messed up bit time loosening the boys and the back one and the spring uncompressed. Wedging the shock extremely hard in there, had to spend 2 day hacking the hardened steel bolt holding it in. Not to mention is was a cone shape one that did not want to come out even cut. Replaced with a hardened steel bolt with no conical shape and haven't died yet
+Ganjulation nice one, around here the roads are bad so I end up replacing a spring or two in our family fleet annually. It's pretty a tedious job! I have a gearbox bearing and a propshaft waiting on two of the other cars and I really don't fancy doing them right now 😞
+Ganjulation nice one, around here the roads are bad so I end up replacing a spring or two in our family fleet annually. It's pretty a tedious job! I have a gearbox bearing and a propshaft waiting on two of the other cars and I really don't fancy doing them right now 😞
I know this video is old but Im currently stuck. I have a 2002 saab 95 2.3L and it blew it's turbo so it was smoking like mad but it did start, so I bought a new one and got to replacing it. It's all back on except the cat, but it won't start. It cranks but will not turn over. I tried starter fluid but it wouldn't work either so I'm thinking it might be a fuel problem. I replaced the spark plugs as well. Any advice anyone can give me will be greatly appreciated. Thank you Edit: I also did prime the new turbo
I would check the connection to the coil pack. I have had my SAAB fail to start when the original pack died. It could just be bad timing. You might be able to check for a spark if you have a helper.
How on earth are you supposed to reach the banjo below the water pump? Been staring at that nut for half a day trying to figure out what the hell to do.
The Backoffice pretty much. I had to remove the fan to get an extension and socket in. Getting it back afterwards was even more of a pain. As you said, patience and trying to hold the pipe back to expose the threads helped. Btw, when I remounted the oil return pipe I first stuck the pipe in and then bolted it on. I figured it would stretch naturally, it did not. The pipe is protruding from a weird angle and the inner ring (which I assume is meant to be square against the o-ring) is like a fucking centimetre out of the hole. I smeared it with some sealing paste I had lying around. Do you know how much that pipe can protrude?
+Henrik Mathisen good job! I'm not near my car to check but I think the return pipe can be stretched to jam in. Should be ok as long as it doesn't Pop out from vibration. How much do you think is in the hole? I suspect if it's got at least a cm in, is unlikely to Pop out. If it does, you will know about it quickly 😂
Yeah, I think there's a couple of centimeters in there, hard to tell. Drove a few miles and nothing catastrophic has happened so far. Thanks for the replies and for the video :)
+Sami Known There will be a little smoke for a couple of minutes as there could still be oil in the exhaust system. Did you replace with a brand new turbo? If so, there could still be oil sitting in your intercooler. You can rinse this out.
Yes it is brand new, its driving me crazy i have to drive it but with that smoke like the police will surly stop me, do i have to check the intercooler?
You should have dropped the sump and replaced the oil as well , theres a reason that turbo blew and its usually the wrong oil or not letting the engine warm for enough time.
I was talking to someone and they mentioned that my 9000 doesn't have an APC/BPC. Is there anyway to not have to use one as that would require a tune. (Anything manual)?
The return line on my saab for the oil on the turbo is sticking out like a lot and I’m worried it’s going to pop out because it’s only being held on by an o ring and I literally try to press it in but it doesn’t want to go it’s in the hole but not all the way I was concerned because if it may spew out oil if it shakes out of place
If it's the one I'm thinking of, is the corrugated return pipe. I think it's pretty solidly fixed as the turbo, manifold and engine are all hard bolted to each other. Maybe you could force it in a bit more with a tool. It's on the low pressure side of the lubrication system so probably ok. 🤔🤔
Mutch better with saab 9-5 i have volvo v70N before the turbo was back on the engine and oli was find in the front hole underbody vas so mutch oil i leave the car and change the turbo as well 2500euro for the job....
Great video will be very helpful, I just bought my son a SAAB for his 2020 Graduation, we need to change turbo first before he can drive it.
Good luck! I'm sure it will be no problem for you!
@@backofficeshow Hi there, i just recently bought a 9-3 2.0t that might need a future turbo change, do you think a "beginner" could try changing it through tutorials? Or should i give it to someone else to change?
New turbos are required to have a pre-lube of oil that you fill about 2 oz. into the oil port of the turbo or risk damage of running the turbo dry... there is also turbo hardware you can purchase than to use the 7 old bolts plus it is a hassle to reuse the old ones but if you wanted to save on money I can understand but all gaskets and O-rings needs to be replaced...
You are missing 2 O-rings - there is an large O-ring [ Intake hose ring ] that goes between connection of the turbo charger intake pipe and turbo and the smaller O-ring that goes at the end of the turbo return line...
I could not tell if you forgot to place the metal gasket onto the TD04 manifold head - the raised rectangular inner seal prevents exhaust leak that can cause an issue with boost?
Did you only experience smoke and oil-usage, or was it a whizzing sound too? Prior to the replacement?
Nothing really, just suddenly black smoke
Hi - good vid - I noticed you added 5W 30 engine oil. The handbook on the 95 Aero states to ONLY use 0W 30 or 0W 40 engine oil. I just wondered why you used a more viscus oil? My mechanic says to use 5W 30, but this is not what the handbook stipulates - Thanks
There really isn't much between a zero weight and a 5 weight oil and the winters here are pretty mild so I think it's fine. Depends on where you live really.
Thanks a million for sharing - was looking at a turbo from the same supplier... is yours still running good?
Oh and did you get stung with a customs charge?
+janusj no customs charge, turbo still going strong 😁👍
Excellent! Will pull the trigger on the purchase!
Thanks again for doing the Vids - not many tubers demonstrating installs a detailed view of the China turbos recently.
+janusj no problem, I wish you the best of luck!
Thanks! Excellent job and informative. Know there's one sometime in my future (waaa) But love My 9-5 enough to do it!!!
+Andrew Finley ha ha, you will get some satisfaction keeping the beast running 😂
Excellent video and tutorial, Cheers!!
Thank you, much appreciated
I wish I’d seen this 5 years ago when the turbo on my 1999 2.0t blew. Cost me well over £300 to get a garage to do it. My « new » 9-5 is 2.3T Aero from 2004 which has a Mitsubishi HOT fitted. I believe (hope!) these are less prone to failure than the Garret. Can anyone confirm ? Or is this just wishful thinking on my part?
Спасибо большое, за информацию!
Great video my friend thanks! Did you find out the reason for the low level oil? You mentioned it was burning up oil!
Yeah, the turbo was blown, it's in one of my other videos. Very worn spindle
Great video!
+MackQuack Thank you, I really appreciate the feedback 👍👍 Is still working well too
Nice video!
What do you suppose happened to the pieces of your old intake turbine blades? Were they sitting in the turbine, fall to the ground? Caught in the intercooler? Sitting at a low spot? Processed through the engine?
+djmips blown through the engine I suspect As I feel they would have been filed off. Either way it does not seem to have any issues. They are such a soft material I suspect they get stamped flat by the pistons or escape as fillings through the exhaust or down the cylinder bores.
Hi From Denver, CO., thanks for the video. I'm doing one in an '01 9-5. Picked the car up for $500 about 3 years ago and for the last year or so it's been smoking at start up. Took a chance when I found a new one on Amazon for $110. It looks identical to the one that was on it, even the stamp is the same. But forgot to prime it and was looking for a way to do it without pulling it back apart.I am going to disconnect the cassette but I think I will also pull the oil feed line bolt and inject some in there. Thanks again.
At the least I would disconnect the ignition cassette and turn the car over on the starter for a while. I think that is pretty much all I did, but if you have the patience to get oil in there it shouldn't harm it.
@@backofficeshow Yeah, I just unplugged the cassette, it took longer than I thought for the oil light to go out but it did, then I started it and works fine. I was really surprised that the turbo looked and felt so good for only $110. I mean it looked identical to the original. The old one worked but my throttle body was covered in oil and it would smoke at startup. Found 2 exhaust manifold studs broken but that's for another day. It's my girlfriends car and she doesn't drive much.
@@timthemechanix I think they are excellent for the money. I really suspect that a lot of original branded stuff is made in the same factories
Perfect video.... Nice Job.
Well done Andrew!
+Meth Methanoid Thank you kind sir, it's still surviving after 1500 miles! 😂
And think of all that cash U saved ;-)
Great video, well done. Is this the only way to remove the studs (from flanges) to put onto the replacement?
Also was the purpose of cutting the studs ultimately due to fitment?
+Charles Choi yes to both questions 😂 if you can, buy new studs. Sometimes you find they might already have the screwdriver cut to help you.
They sell a stud removal set . Special socket to remove and install studs
Once doing a turbo change, it's easy and a waste not to clean the sump which almost always is the source of turbo-failure on these cars. Also when doing a turbo change the Intercooler needs to come out to be cleaned, since it is on the air side it won't work again unless it's cleaned.
Nice video.Did the car perform a lot better once the job was done?
+Luke Robbo I'm not sure it's performing that the previous turbo (when it was working) but it's significantly better than a dead turbo 😂
I would say it is a great replacement part. Several thousand miles later it's still fine, no issues
Great video, I'm going to buy the same turbo for my car and do the replacement, is the clone turbo still good
+Marcus Booth it's perfect, several thousand miles and it's fine 👍
The Backoffice I've watched this video about ten times it's so helpful, you make it look so easy, keep up the good work absolute legend
+Marcus Booth cheers man 👍 good luck in all your car resorts repairs 😂
Where did you end up purchasing the new turbo from?
maxspeedingrods.co.uk - I believe they are in China and use this branding globally
I've got an eBay turbo to go in my Focus C max diesel, hoping will have good luck with it. Is yours still going ok?
It is indeed 👍😁
Got mine fitted and all seems ok, but just wondering , did you remember if the oil feed pipe was completely stiff or did it move a little bit?
I don't think there was much/any play in the banjos
So how is the fancy Chinese clone turbo doing now? Still working?
Still going strong, the rest of the car is wearing out around it 😂
Great video! Watched it several times to understand each step before installing my new Chinese turbo. Little bit of a struggle removing and replacing the "original 18 year old turbo" and some of the stubborn banjo bolts and tricky feeder lines. But with some new parts and additional time I've gotten everything placed back together. My only problem now, is it's leaking oil and the oil pressure light came back on within 2-3 minutes after starting it. My plan is to get back under it to check/tighten all the bolts again. Perhaps I left one loose or there is a missing washer somewhere. Is it necessary to have copper washers (top and bottom) on all the banjo bolt fittings?
Those copper washers are indeed essential, make sure you have two per bolt. Also check the return to the sump is pushed well home.
Thanks for responding. I’m going out to work on it now. Fingers crossed!
Matt Ryzenga I'm sure you will be fine 👍
All set. No leaks! Thanks again! Your great video saved me about $1500 US dollars. Cheers!
That's great glad to have been of help 👍 I'm sure this is the first time I actually saved someone some money 😁
Nice Job, I would replace mine but I'm ashamed to admit my Saab/Subaru does not actually have a turbo in my model😔
Last thing I did was put some lowered spring and messed up bit time loosening the boys and the back one and the spring uncompressed. Wedging the shock extremely hard in there, had to spend 2 day hacking the hardened steel bolt holding it in.
Not to mention is was a cone shape one that did not want to come out even cut.
Replaced with a hardened steel bolt with no conical shape and haven't died yet
+Ganjulation nice one, around here the roads are bad so I end up replacing a spring or two in our family fleet annually. It's pretty a tedious job! I have a gearbox bearing and a propshaft waiting on two of the other cars and I really don't fancy doing them right now 😞
+Ganjulation nice one, around here the roads are bad so I end up replacing a spring or two in our family fleet annually. It's pretty a tedious job! I have a gearbox bearing and a propshaft waiting on two of the other cars and I really don't fancy doing them right now 😞
+Ganjulation I'm betting you get better than 33mpg
Just curious about the vaccum line how did you run it?
To be honest with you as so long ago I don't remember however I pretty sure I just followed the existing layout and setup.
I know this video is old but Im currently stuck. I have a 2002 saab 95 2.3L and it blew it's turbo so it was smoking like mad but it did start, so I bought a new one and got to replacing it. It's all back on except the cat, but it won't start. It cranks but will not turn over. I tried starter fluid but it wouldn't work either so I'm thinking it might be a fuel problem. I replaced the spark plugs as well. Any advice anyone can give me will be greatly appreciated. Thank you
Edit: I also did prime the new turbo
I would check the connection to the coil pack. I have had my SAAB fail to start when the original pack died. It could just be bad timing. You might be able to check for a spark if you have a helper.
This is a diesel 1.9?
Petrol 2.3
How on earth are you supposed to reach the banjo below the water pump? Been staring at that nut for half a day trying to figure out what the hell to do.
+Henrik Mathisen oh m8, I wish I could remember. Using finger tips and a lot of patience I guess.
Are you finding it does 1/8 of a turn and go loose?
The Backoffice pretty much. I had to remove the fan to get an extension and socket in. Getting it back afterwards was even more of a pain. As you said, patience and trying to hold the pipe back to expose the threads helped.
Btw, when I remounted the oil return pipe I first stuck the pipe in and then bolted it on. I figured it would stretch naturally, it did not. The pipe is protruding from a weird angle and the inner ring (which I assume is meant to be square against the o-ring) is like a fucking centimetre out of the hole. I smeared it with some sealing paste I had lying around. Do you know how much that pipe can protrude?
+Henrik Mathisen good job!
I'm not near my car to check but I think the return pipe can be stretched to jam in. Should be ok as long as it doesn't Pop out from vibration. How much do you think is in the hole? I suspect if it's got at least a cm in, is unlikely to Pop out. If it does, you will know about it quickly 😂
Yeah, I think there's a couple of centimeters in there, hard to tell. Drove a few miles and nothing catastrophic has happened so far.
Thanks for the replies and for the video :)
thanks a lot
I hope it was useful 👍
Well done old man, Iain w in glasgow
Thank you sir 👍 it's still going strong 😁
How many ks now with the new turbo
+Richard Elly I'll double check but I'm thinking at least 10-15k no problems at all.
I just changed the turbo on my Saab 9-3 2002 and there is still smoke, Any advice ASAP thanks.
+Sami Known There will be a little smoke for a couple of minutes as there could still be oil in the exhaust system.
Did you replace with a brand new turbo? If so, there could still be oil sitting in your intercooler. You can rinse this out.
Yes it is brand new, its driving me crazy i have to drive it but with that smoke like the police will surly stop me, do i have to check the intercooler?
+Sami Known is your oil level in the car ok or is it going down?
The Backoffice what if and what if not? Sorry for asking too much
+Sami Known if oil going down, then the turbo is has a problem as it's burning it. If not going down then it's just old oil in the intercooler
You should have dropped the sump and replaced the oil as well , theres a reason that turbo blew and its usually the wrong oil or not letting the engine warm for enough time.
It blew because it was old. I replaced the oil and filters at the time and replaced them again at 1000 miles. No problems since.
Same kind of procedure with a Saab 9000 2.3t?
+Level should be pretty much exactly the same 👍
I was talking to someone and they mentioned that my 9000 doesn't have an APC/BPC. Is there anyway to not have to use one as that would require a tune. (Anything manual)?
+Level Not having any experience with those I can't really comment.
The return line on my saab for the oil on the turbo is sticking out like a lot and I’m worried it’s going to pop out because it’s only being held on by an o ring and I literally try to press it in but it doesn’t want to go it’s in the hole but not all the way I was concerned because if it may spew out oil if it shakes out of place
How much do you think is in the engine?
backofficeshow The line or the oil -oil is at Max the oil line is about 1/4 of an inch in the hole for the line
If it's the one I'm thinking of, is the corrugated return pipe. I think it's pretty solidly fixed as the turbo, manifold and engine are all hard bolted to each other.
Maybe you could force it in a bit more with a tool.
It's on the low pressure side of the lubrication system so probably ok. 🤔🤔
backofficeshow Alright -thanks for the help I will try to press the oil drain line in and just hope it doesn’t wobble out
No problem
Mutch better with saab 9-5 i have volvo v70N before the turbo was back on the engine and oli was find in the front hole underbody vas so mutch oil i leave the car and change the turbo as well 2500euro for the job....
Cool bloke
+Claudio Figueiredo I totally agree 👍😂