HumbleMechanic I used to be a Volkswagen guy then I went to JDM more power less frustration less money, anyway why did you get such a crappy Turbo! you didn't really tell us the model but I'm pretty sure that's a journal bearing turbo I would have spent a little bit more money considering everything else you're doing to the car and get a gt35r.. Just wondering...?
Zack Cernok he said he got a t3 turbo in the beginning of the vid..... also I think why he went with this is because he got the cheaper side but also a reliable and higher hp add. Getting a nicer turbo can result in higher hp but if you are running a sleeper (which I tend to think about vw) and wanting not waste all ur money on one component like a turbo, then the t3/t4 would be the best
so your saying if I'm driving an 800$ silverado. I have to put 7000$ in parts and labor just to get 10 mpg. Great vid. thanks for killing my dreams of turbo charged lawn care truck.
Sterling Mantlow You don't have to upgrade your internals... my Silverado 1996 with a 5.7L doesn't need upgraded internals. Not many V8 need upgraded internals. If you turbo charge it.... I don't think they're will be a benefit for me... I mean when I pull boats it doesn't struggle... but maybe cuz they're light things? a turbo charger in a V8 with Help pull a lot more better with heavier things thou, no doubt! I'm just going to turbo my Pick-up for Drag strips and eating Subarus
Sterling Mantlow i am not an expert. but if you get solid compression and the engine still runs within its parameters you could go with a low pressure turbo charging scenario to play it very safe like mentioned in the video
Being that Arizona is experiencing 120°F+ weather lately (which I haven't felt for approx 20 years), could you perhaps do a video discussion on the affects of extreme heat on a motor (both forced induction and naturally aspirated)? Or perhaps any other aspect of the vehicle that may be adversely affected by extremely high temperatures? Thank you. Take care my friend.
I would also appreciate this, as I live in Texas where we regularly deal with 100+ degree days with huge levels of humidity. Can't decide if I should turbo my car and deal with the heat/vibration or stick to an NA build. I intend to drive the car every day, and on occasional road trips so reliability is key.
Upgraded fans can actually reduce cooling at speed. A crossflow radiator is the simple way to increase your cooling capacity at all vehicle speeds. A larger (or oversized) intercooler is actually a good idea to increase reliability, as it reduces IAT significantly. Even though that turbo is over twice as large as necessary, this is good to keep IATs down as well, since 10psi is at the low end of it's efficiency island.
Turbocharging my tacoma was probably one of the coolest things I've ever done. The same truck and engine come (came) factory with optional supercharger pushing 6-8 PSI, so 8 PSI from a turbo is nothing she can't handle. EVERYTHING about the engine and fueling is stock. Has methanol injection to compensate for the extra air, so I get extra fuel and way higher knock threshold in one package. 4 years later she's still boosting and whoopin booties.. in fact just whooped a chipped and tuned Cummings the other night. Fun fun
Do it right the 1st time: 1.) The car: a FWD Honda Civic. 2.) The engine: an I-4 because of Honda and you won't need forged internals because of Honda. 1000 horsepower + here we come. 3.) The purpose: because superchargers are for muppets and wannabees. Either turbo or don't do it at all. 4.) Long term goals. Apply boost gradually so your engine can slowly handle that increased stress on the internals. With proper patience your Honda Civic will be hitting the 1/4 mile within 9 second times. Then you can drive up to people with Bugatti Veryon's and laugh at the billionaire's that wasted their money on fake power and probably get his lady passenger, as well. 5.) If you really really do it right, you can make your car into a time machine. My civic hit so hard one time I almost went back in time... well, almost. True talk.
Superchargers are way easier to install and have their purpose. They are ok for people who dont care about hp #'s and just want some instant power. I like my turbo volvos, but I've put a supercharger on a Scion in a day, where as turbo-ing usually takes the entire weekend.
David G yea it's suited for NA at this point in time but he has said two or three times in his past vids that he will eventually end up supercharging it. I mean with that ratio it shouldn't be all that bad considering supercharged are very linear and efficient power... but I don't know how it will hold up on the diff but we will have to see
Richard Holdener would recommend opening the ring gap on the top ring to prevent them from butting and sticking, especially if you are going to turn the boost, all the way up. Great vid, guys.
6. Forged or Billet internals Over a certain boost level (over 10 psi) you are reducing the life of your engine on cast iron internals. When you get over 15 psi, you should consider forged internals.
Srsly Brah because it's purpose is to bring cool air to the turbo and black absorbs heat the most. So making it black would make it less effective since it would be adorning heat, that's the reason why they are mostly whiter colours since white absorbs the least amount of heat.
Ismazara i'm sure mcm did something showing it was either cooler or that there was a horsepower gain. cant remember which one it was but the outcome was to paint it black because it is more stealth and had larger power gains
I have a question for my own car. I wanted to buy a new headgasket because mine started leaking a few weeks ago. But I see I have different options for the headgaskets thickness. Let's assume I just love making power out of my tiny atmospheric engine, can we imagine that I'd take a thinner headgasket to have a slightly higher compression ratio? What do you think guys?
Awesome Charles! I love these upgrades/mods. I can't wait to watch this built and running. I had a similar setup on a Honda a few years ago. Injectors, pump, ECU etc 💪🏼👌🏼👍🏼
Jason, can you show us the math for figuring turbo size, intake pressure/temp, exhaust pressure/temp, etc.? It would be interesting to look at different factory vehicles' power levels, lag, etc. in this context
This is crazy to see how much you have grown I remember being subscribed when your car got first stolen lol and you did a video on it congrats on the hard work I hope you see this
I'm a bit late to the party, but another thing that you should make sure can handle the power: your rims. Someone I know ran around with a 1987 Toyota Supra Mk 3 with a 1JZ Twin Turbo pushing I think 12 or 14 PSI of boost or something. He was running Centerline Forged 6-spoke 18" rims, and cracked all 4 rims. He found cracks in the rears, swapped the fronts and rears, then cracked those too. So badly that at least 1 spoke was cracked clean through, inside to out of the rim and was completely seperated. He was only pushing about 310-320 HP too, those may have been "bad" rims but keep that in mind when turbo'ing your car. Make sure like they said, your tires and brakes can handle the extra power. But also make sure your rims can handle it too.
high compression with lower boost is more efficient than low compression with high boost for everyday driving. Both will make the same power, only the low compression motor will need more boost.
Second question, I have a trackcar with almost no mods beside brakes. It's actually totally not a trackday (Citroën Saxo 1.1i). If I tune it to 75 hp (60 stock), do I have to upgrade the cooling as well? Or do you think the stock cooling system will be enough? Tx
@@tritthemit4168 and one more judgment I didn't need 😐 actually it's my ow'mn project car and imo, everything is worth it if I at least enjoy it, which is the case. Instead of that, have you maybe an answer to my actual question?
@@dilysi156 yes sorry man your right as long as you enjoy it do whatever you want and about the cooling if you haven’t done anything else to it I wouldn’t think you would have to
Huge thanks for making this video, I plan to turbo my car and was wondering what I needed to change to get it ready and reliable. You guys covered what I needed :)
By lowering your compression with the spacer, does that defeat the purpose of a turbo? Isn't the turbo increasing the compression in the combustion chamber?
no. The ultimate goal of turbocharging is to increase the mass (not pressure) of air in the cylinder so that you can burn more fuel to produce more power. decreasing the compression ratio does not reduce this mass since it also increase the volume. too high pressure (both from boost and compression) is bad because it causes heat which reduce efficiency and increase risk of knock.
Not related to this video, but I would really like to see the analysis of fuel consumption for different gears, especially interesting for manual transmission cars. For example, how much fuel is saved if driving 80 in fifth gear vs. 80 in fourth gear and so on.
Hmm all very nice but what if your car isn't fuel injected... btw I know that you can just change the carbi system to a fuel injection system but they didn't really mention that in the video
Griffin Mackenzie That's what I was thinking too. (Also if you didn't notice, since I didn't have my keyboard nearby to use quotation marks, I was quoting the guy on the right in the video)
TL;DR 1) turbo - turbo kit 2) fuel components - pump, high pressure pump, injectors (use high octane fuel to avoid knock) 3) engine management and monitoring - get a better computer or chip your car 4) Cool - your air, oil, and water - run it to where it needs to go, and upgrade your fans, radiator, and reservoirs if needed 5) prepare the weak points, tires, brakes, exhaust, clutch, spark plugs, piston, head gasket, and head gasket spacer(connecting rod spokes for Charles' version of VW [mk3 GTI 2.8L])
Pe Peroni currently going on 170k miles on my 05 GLI. Upgraded the clutch, flywheel, diverter valve, intake/exhaust, turbo, software, and intercooler and the only real issue I've had has been replacing the fuel pump when the original started dieing. (fingers crossed)
just so vw-fanboys are aware: i had over 20 years experience working on/with/at VW (in Germany btw), so please dont even bother trying to "convince" me otherwise...just sayin...
I want to contribute to the vw reliability here, im having 100% stock vw ABF(2.0L 16V) engine base with stock compression ratio, wich had almost 300000 km's on the clock before getting any power upgrades. Not its on 0.6Bar of boost and 270hp/300NM. And its running strong! :) This winter were going all in with performance upgrades! Cheers to all turbocharged petrolheads!
After everything is said and done, Charles, Jason, ETCG, and ChrisFix need to race each other. That video can be put on blown heads. By the way, what happened to that channel?
Alex sure, but the car needs a retune otherwise it wants to dump to much fuel in like it would with the turbo. but why would you ever want to do that anyways
Excellent video with great information. This was a big help for people that have not attempted the turbo conversion yet. This video could've very well saved some motors.
Yes, most of the time they use front splitters to make down force at the front, but there is a TC race car that actually installs a huge wing at the front, to compensate for the FWD traction loss(which is pretty bad @ 700whp & torque!): www.motortrend.com/news/front-wingequipped-scion-tc-breaks-lap-record-at-willow-springs-5235/
Great idea....unless you are one who would rather build your own rather then just buy what everyone else can. Not to mention a lot of times the car you like is not available with a factory turbo, which is all the more fun when some unsuspecting factory turbo car owner comes across a car the knows does not have one...and it does.
9/10 times they do that to make the engine smaller or the car just 'fast' putting one on later makes is really fast in comparison with weight and safety. So lots more fun
Yes John .L i do own a factory turbo car. It's a '09 HHR SS panel & i luv it owned since new now has 122 thousand miles but did have replace the factory turbo in sept of this year-stayed with another factory turbo. Aqua blue HHR
great tips ! Personally one of my personal tips is learning about how NA cars being converted to NA-T can have issues with their oem vacuum orientation. Reason being is because lets say you have actuators that work only under vacuum at a certain rpm. Lets say around that same RPM your car begins to form boost. well that actuator is going to work oppositely compared to what its designed to do because its line is being filled with pressure instead of vacuum. I personally always run an external oil cooler on my turbo converted vehicles. aswell as upgraded radiator. making sure everything is cooling more efficiently over stock is key. i've seen some supras where they have some really nice high end mods and then they are rocking the stock radiator.
generic kit, like bought in 2002 440cc "bosch" ev6 injectors, chipped stock ecu, the "allmighty" t3/t4 turbo, the decrompression plate, 255lph walbro. I mean there's nothing wrong with this stuff, but when i'm doing this, i might aswell do it like it's done in 2017. he's spending that "much" money, but focuses on the wrong parts... stock ecu has no overboost protection, no lean under boost safety, no egt correction, no fuel pressure fail safe... gauges are not completely useless but still useless, you can't keep an eye on the health status of your car all the time.
true, hard to beat the price though for a kit like that. but i do agree in your points. Even the turbo seems kinda pointless in this kit if hes only thinking about running 10 psi of boost.
Years ago I had a 1986 Isuzu Trooper II. It had a 95 hp engine. Called a shop specializing in turbo conversions. They said they could put an aftermarket turbocharger on and increase the engine output to over 200 hp. Thought seriously about it but decided not to. I don't recall the price tag but it was a lot.
What's ironic is that I'm planning on turbo charging the 2.Slow ABA in my Volkswagen MK3 Cabrio and I clicked on this video not even REALIZING Humble Mechanic was in this video... which a lot of us know he loves VW. I was like "Hellll yeahhh I definitely watching this video!"
actually If your buying a modern car , there is a big chance it will have a turbo in it , to help a down seized or small engine achieve the target power output.
JR Garage can we see a video of all of you cars lined up while doing a burnout. that would be a good video. or a video of you trying to drift the tesla.
I'd also change pistons to ones with higher copper content. If the piston bottom is cooled by oil, the higher heat transfer rate will come in handy. Also, make sure to choose an engine oil that can handle a higher temperature rating.
The biggest issue is people in California leave and then make the same mistakes that ruined California....hint: voting for people like Moonbeam, Maxine Waters and Pelosi
I don't know if this will actually get read but you said internal combustion engines are about 30% efficient. I'm into motorcycles and my typical measure of an engines efficiency is looking at hp/liter. Why do cars rest around such a lower efficiency level when my WR250R (250cc dual sport) makes about 25 hp from the factory (100hp/liter) and closer to 30-32 with an exhaust and a fuel tuner (since these bikes run obnoxiously lean from stock). However, this number goes up to 200hp/liter once you get into the 600cc sport bikes which all push out around 120hp for modern options from the factory, once again with no boost. Finally, my question laid out clearly is this, why do modestly tuned motorcycles make more hp/liter without boost than any given street car?
Why not paint the intercooler black? Mighty Car Mods done a video on this and found zero temperature difference between stock vs painted. Great video, it's given me a lot to think about before I turbo charge my inline 4cylinder vvti corolla
On my 200 3.6(which has no after market turbo kit) and since its an open deck design i have to get an open deck support, beef up the trans, lower temp thermo stat, and the big one, dyno tune, hand help tunes are great, but dyno tunes are better imo
Is this vid a preface to turboing that S2000? Excellent platform for some serious forced induction power. Perhaps another vid idea could be choosing a platform to turbo. You touched on identifying and upgrading the weak points in #5. There are definitely cars that are better for turboing (like your S2000) where you won't have to replace spendy and/or many components like pistons/rods/transmission/axles etc. Others that have the strength in the drivetrain components...and others that it would just make more sense to choose a different platform altogether. Case in point...the audi 2.7t. Other than clutch and fueling, you are pretty good to hit 500+hp with just bigger turbos and intercoolers.
1) Turbo charger unit 0:44
2) Upgrade fuel components 01:44
3) Upgrade engine management 03:26
4) Upgrade cooling systems 07:03
5) Tyres, Spark plugs, exhaust, clutch 11:30
But what if your car is a automatic?
Legend
@@fargeeks makes things a little bit more complicated
@@fargeeks shouldn’t matter that much unless you’re planning to make so much power that you might blow the trans
@@JaySosa556 how much is too much?
"A turbo: Exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens, and you go faster." -J. Clarkson
Good ol Jezza
😂😂😂😂Jezza
This was a lot of fun! I can't wait to get that bad boy bolted up to the GTI!!!!
Thanks for hanging out with me Jason :)
Great vid. Just subbed!
HumbleMechanic I used to be a Volkswagen guy then I went to JDM more power less frustration less money, anyway why did you get such a crappy Turbo! you didn't really tell us the model but I'm pretty sure that's a journal bearing turbo I would have spent a little bit more money considering everything else you're doing to the car and get a gt35r.. Just wondering...?
Zack Cernok he said he got a t3 turbo in the beginning of the vid..... also I think why he went with this is because he got the cheaper side but also a reliable and higher hp add. Getting a nicer turbo can result in higher hp but if you are running a sleeper (which I tend to think about vw) and wanting not waste all ur money on one component like a turbo, then the t3/t4 would be the best
HumbleMechanic just want you to know I heard you try and say Turbo and Kit at the same time and you said "tit" 😈😈
I guess a humble mechanic in America is like a cocky one anywhere else, a rare breed. :)
What going on with level of volume
You can blame me for that. It was my equipment we filmed with.
second that motion. was really excited then had to struggle to hear anything
Y'all crank up your volume knobs hahaha.
I thought I was just crazy and kept turning my volume up. I don't question things anymore, baha.
Try turning the volume up yourself in editing. That's a small but huge oversight.
step1 have unlimited credit card account lol
HAHAHA that sure helps
Diego Garcia nope. That'll put you under. Just save...
HumbleMechanic im gonnna have about 30grand soo ill be buying small block 281ford newedge and boosting it aiming for 450whp
He ain't doing shyttttt....
Or just do odd jobs and save up for parts
so your saying if I'm driving an 800$ silverado. I have to put 7000$ in parts and labor just to get 10 mpg. Great vid. thanks for killing my dreams of turbo charged lawn care truck.
Sterling Mantlow just go ebay kit then and dont upgrade internals xD
Sterling Mantlow You don't have to upgrade your internals... my Silverado 1996 with a 5.7L doesn't need upgraded internals.
Not many V8 need upgraded internals. If you turbo charge it.... I don't think they're will be a benefit for me... I mean when I pull boats it doesn't struggle... but maybe cuz they're light things?
a turbo charger in a V8 with Help pull a lot more better with heavier things thou, no doubt! I'm just going to turbo my Pick-up for Drag strips and eating Subarus
my what is saying that?
yea but with 220,000 miles... trucks internals are worn. Am I at risk of blowing engine?
Sterling Mantlow i am not an expert. but if you get solid compression and the engine still runs within its parameters you could go with a low pressure turbo charging scenario to play it very safe like mentioned in the video
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Being that Arizona is experiencing 120°F+ weather lately (which I haven't felt for approx 20 years), could you perhaps do a video discussion on the affects of extreme heat on a motor (both forced induction and naturally aspirated)? Or perhaps any other aspect of the vehicle that may be adversely affected by extremely high temperatures? Thank you.
Take care my friend.
Bert Shackleford yes!!!!
I'm considering running a PD supercharger instead of a turbo due to the extreme heat.
Bert Shackleford I live in Yuma, and it has been horrible lately x.x
Hymdhar Guzman saaaaame hot af
YES PLEASE. Amen
I would also appreciate this, as I live in Texas where we regularly deal with 100+ degree days with huge levels of humidity. Can't decide if I should turbo my car and deal with the heat/vibration or stick to an NA build. I intend to drive the car every day, and on occasional road trips so reliability is key.
Upgraded fans can actually reduce cooling at speed. A crossflow radiator is the simple way to increase your cooling capacity at all vehicle speeds.
A larger (or oversized) intercooler is actually a good idea to increase reliability, as it reduces IAT significantly.
Even though that turbo is over twice as large as necessary, this is good to keep IATs down as well, since 10psi is at the low end of it's efficiency island.
Never miss an EE video. Sound advice that comes from the top.
I love how informative your videos are man! I'm new to manuals and have learned a whole bunch from you. Thank you and keep it up.
Appreciate the kind words, thanks for watching!
Turbocharging my tacoma was probably one of the coolest things I've ever done. The same truck and engine come (came) factory with optional supercharger pushing 6-8 PSI, so 8 PSI from a turbo is nothing she can't handle. EVERYTHING about the engine and fueling is stock. Has methanol injection to compensate for the extra air, so I get extra fuel and way higher knock threshold in one package. 4 years later she's still boosting and whoopin booties.. in fact just whooped a chipped and tuned Cummings the other night. Fun fun
My name is Garrett and I approve this message.
Garrett Bentley can you hook me up with a turbo
is that your turbo?
Hi Garrett
Garrett gang
Mike or John?
Really like the vids with the mechanic dude, we get the paper numbers and the real life scenario. Best of both worlds!
Keep up the good work!
step one for turbo charging your car is have money
That is 1-6 LOL
Knowledge.
*laughs in honda civic*
Not really just depends i bought mine on ebay for my truck in almost 1500 with the tubbing and everything
@@jesse6265 was that $1500? If so, that's money.
I love you guys!
Explain to don't oversize the intercooler to don't block the radiator flow and to don't paint it black!
Respect for you guys
Thank you for this! TH-cam need a video like this to teach that you can't just bolt a turbo on and your good to go. Great job! 👍🏼
Rapidly becoming one of my favorite channels.
Do it right the 1st time:
1.) The car: a FWD Honda Civic.
2.) The engine: an I-4 because of Honda and you won't need forged internals because of Honda. 1000 horsepower + here we come.
3.) The purpose: because superchargers are for muppets and wannabees. Either turbo or don't do it at all.
4.) Long term goals. Apply boost gradually so your engine can slowly handle that increased stress on the internals. With proper patience your Honda Civic will be hitting the 1/4 mile within 9 second times. Then you can drive up to people with Bugatti Veryon's and laugh at the billionaire's that wasted their money on fake power and probably get his lady passenger, as well.
5.) If you really really do it right, you can make your car into a time machine. My civic hit so hard one time I almost went back in time... well, almost.
True talk.
ErwinSchrodinger64 V-tec is the missing key of time travel. If only these scientists stop buying German made cars and give the Civic a try.
Superchargers are way easier to install and have their purpose. They are ok for people who dont care about hp #'s and just want some instant power. I like my turbo volvos, but I've put a supercharger on a Scion in a day, where as turbo-ing usually takes the entire weekend.
HAHAHA honda 1000hp!
A FWD Honda Civic, as opposed to the usual RWD Honda civics.
Nobody noticed the sarcasm?
thanks for introducing us to humble mechanic. he got a cool channel.
Rudy Flores k
S2000 boost where's it at c'monnnnn 😂
David G Well he said he would supercharge it lol just wanted it to be in good shape before adding mods like that
David G yea it's suited for NA at this point in time but he has said two or three times in his past vids that he will eventually end up supercharging it. I mean with that ratio it shouldn't be all that bad considering supercharged are very linear and efficient power... but I don't know how it will hold up on the diff but we will have to see
David G doesn't need to go big boost, a small turbo and fairly low boost makes a difference in these cars
Jake Morel S2000 arent meant for turbos lol
jayo, youtube s2000 from hell. TURBO ALL THE THINGS!!!
Richard Holdener would recommend opening the ring gap on the top ring to prevent them from butting and sticking, especially if you are going to turn the boost, all the way up. Great vid, guys.
These colabs get better and better.
6. Forged or Billet internals
Over a certain boost level (over 10 psi) you are reducing the life of your engine on cast iron internals. When you get over 15 psi, you should consider forged internals.
It wouldn't be an Engineering Explained video with out the white board @ 5:31. It had me rollin.
These guys are great together. What a good duo.
"just don't paint it black" lol little jab at MCM there 😂😂
;)
Don't paint it black? I don't think Mick Jagger would be happy with that! (lol, The Rolling Stones Joke)
Mine is black. Why is that bad?
Srsly Brah because it's purpose is to bring cool air to the turbo and black absorbs heat the most. So making it black would make it less effective since it would be adorning heat, that's the reason why they are mostly whiter colours since white absorbs the least amount of heat.
Ismazara i'm sure mcm did something showing it was either cooler or that there was a horsepower gain. cant remember which one it was but the outcome was to paint it black because it is more stealth and had larger power gains
I have a question for my own car. I wanted to buy a new headgasket because mine started leaking a few weeks ago. But I see I have different options for the headgaskets thickness. Let's assume I just love making power out of my tiny atmospheric engine, can we imagine that I'd take a thinner headgasket to have a slightly higher compression ratio? What do you think guys?
Awesome Charles! I love these upgrades/mods. I can't wait to watch this built and running. I had a similar setup on a Honda a few years ago. Injectors, pump, ECU etc 💪🏼👌🏼👍🏼
Jason, can you show us the math for figuring turbo size, intake pressure/temp, exhaust pressure/temp, etc.? It would be interesting to look at different factory vehicles' power levels, lag, etc. in this context
Will you make one of these about preparing your car for E-85 ?
This is crazy to see how much you have grown I remember being subscribed when your car got first stolen lol and you did a video on it congrats on the hard work I hope you see this
How to judge if the transmission will hold
1. chip tuning
2. super charger
Can you "strengthen" the transmission for tuning?
The bung on the oil pan isnt welded properly, plenty of holes around the bung 9:20
how old are you "engineering explained" between 18 and 40😂
Bryce Kehler he looks like a young old man
around 25 and 28
25 going on 45
I'm a bit late to the party, but another thing that you should make sure can handle the power: your rims. Someone I know ran around with a 1987 Toyota Supra Mk 3 with a 1JZ Twin Turbo pushing I think 12 or 14 PSI of boost or something. He was running Centerline Forged 6-spoke 18" rims, and cracked all 4 rims. He found cracks in the rears, swapped the fronts and rears, then cracked those too. So badly that at least 1 spoke was cracked clean through, inside to out of the rim and was completely seperated. He was only pushing about 310-320 HP too, those may have been "bad" rims but keep that in mind when turbo'ing your car. Make sure like they said, your tires and brakes can handle the extra power. But also make sure your rims can handle it too.
I ❤️ boost
DoPeRiDe123 who doesent?
Drop Finder for Mr BassBoost Tsuchiya, afaik he's a big fan of NA engines :P
high compression with lower boost is more efficient than low compression with high boost for everyday driving. Both will make the same power, only the low compression motor will need more boost.
Second question, I have a trackcar with almost no mods beside brakes. It's actually totally not a trackday (Citroën Saxo 1.1i). If I tune it to 75 hp (60 stock), do I have to upgrade the cooling as well? Or do you think the stock cooling system will be enough? Tx
“Track car” with 60hp I don’t think You should be putting money into that imo
@@tritthemit4168 and one more judgment I didn't need 😐 actually it's my ow'mn project car and imo, everything is worth it if I at least enjoy it, which is the case.
Instead of that, have you maybe an answer to my actual question?
@@dilysi156 yes sorry man your right as long as you enjoy it do whatever you want and about the cooling if you haven’t done anything else to it I wouldn’t think you would have to
@@tritthemit4168 thank you ✌️
That feeling when you're actually in Phoenix, Arizona and flooring it all the time
"Charles actually works on card instead of pretending he will in the future." Hahahhaha that's just funny as hell
I live in Phoenix and chuckled while watching this because it's going to be 114 today!
So how would I know if my engine can tolerate such added boost and power?
Huge thanks for making this video, I plan to turbo my car and was wondering what I needed to change to get it ready and reliable. You guys covered what I needed :)
4 years of engineering explained, I think I'm ready to work as a certified mechanic
Really helpful video it mentions things that we wouldn't think about at first or even we wouldn't think about it never alone until we get problems.
Me: I want to Turbo my car!!!!
My Bank acount: No you won’t!
By lowering your compression with the spacer, does that defeat the purpose of a turbo? Isn't the turbo increasing the compression in the combustion chamber?
no. The ultimate goal of turbocharging is to increase the mass (not pressure) of air in the cylinder so that you can burn more fuel to produce more power. decreasing the compression ratio does not reduce this mass since it also increase the volume. too high pressure (both from boost and compression) is bad because it causes heat which reduce efficiency and increase risk of knock.
Just ask rodknocks mod shop
Not related to this video, but I would really like to see the analysis of fuel consumption for different gears, especially interesting for manual transmission cars. For example, how much fuel is saved if driving 80 in fifth gear vs. 80 in fourth gear and so on.
This video was liked for the dad joke about it being hard to turbo a car without a turbo.
Love these educational presentation, cheers Steve 🇦🇺 from Queensland Australia
Hmm all very nice but what if your car isn't fuel injected... btw I know that you can just change the carbi system to a fuel injection system but they didn't really mention that in the video
Jimmi Hall same here or a crank flywheel
Wow two of my favorite TH-cam guys, I smell a great podcast.
why is the audio so low
Samir Rebronja idk
HumbleMechanic1 hour ago
You can blame me for that. It was my equipment we filmed with.
Fudily couldn't you have increased the volume in the edit? lol
Griffin Mackenzie That's what I was thinking too. (Also if you didn't notice, since I didn't have my keyboard nearby to use quotation marks, I was quoting the guy on the right in the video)
Its all other videos thats loud!
What do you about the compression ratio and choosing the right size turbo?
Anyone else notice that the turbo has been welded?
LeonelObbed I did
Welded turbo for the perfect placement . The only way to get turbo to fit exactly where you want it to
TL;DR
1) turbo - turbo kit
2) fuel components - pump, high pressure pump, injectors (use high octane fuel to avoid knock)
3) engine management and monitoring - get a better computer or chip your car
4) Cool - your air, oil, and water - run it to where it needs to go, and upgrade your fans, radiator, and reservoirs if needed
5) prepare the weak points, tires, brakes, exhaust, clutch, spark plugs, piston, head gasket, and head gasket spacer(connecting rod spokes for Charles' version of VW [mk3 GTI 2.8L])
Audio Levels Explained..
Create a 30 second audio mastering reference file. Drop it into every project.
I’m a minute in and I already love this guy😂😂
VW known for reliability?!.......im speechless....
Dont know about new ones, but older VWs are very reliable. Ive seen a lot of cars that had over 400 000km on stock engines with no unexpected issues.
TheDox451 well yeah ok, old ones were reliable cars...but since late 90s/early 2000s? oh my god...
Pe Peroni currently going on 170k miles on my 05 GLI. Upgraded the clutch, flywheel, diverter valve, intake/exhaust, turbo, software, and intercooler and the only real issue I've had has been replacing the fuel pump when the original started dieing. (fingers crossed)
Maybe youve just seen bad examples, a lot of late 90s passats and golfs are still pulling strong. My neighbour has late 90s passat with 400k kms.
just so vw-fanboys are aware: i had over 20 years experience working on/with/at VW (in Germany btw), so please dont even bother trying to "convince" me otherwise...just sayin...
I want to contribute to the vw reliability here, im having 100% stock vw ABF(2.0L 16V) engine base with stock compression ratio, wich had almost 300000 km's on the clock before getting any power upgrades. Not its on 0.6Bar of boost and 270hp/300NM.
And its running strong! :)
This winter were going all in with performance upgrades!
Cheers to all turbocharged petrolheads!
After everything is said and done, Charles, Jason, ETCG, and ChrisFix need to race each other. That video can be put on blown heads. By the way, what happened to that channel?
MiamiZombie2012 totally agree. pretty sure the Fairmont will smoke all of them, I hope
1985 Kx that fairmont is pretty sick!
To touch up on the last point, you'll want to make sure the welds on intake manifold and the rivets on your floor pan are upgraded and reinforced.
DAMN IT!!! I am good on the welds, forgot all about the floor pan.. :(
Is it possible to remove a turbo charger that was installed from the factory?
Alex sure, but the car needs a retune otherwise it wants to dump to much fuel in like it would with the turbo. but why would you ever want to do that anyways
Yes, although not sure why would you do it. You would need to retune the car, but it would be very low on power.
Alex just remove our replace?
not advisable, the engine is probaly low displacement, needs the turbo to work properly..
Boosted motors are usually lower compression than their naturally aspirated counterparts and may not perform as well when the boost is taken away.
This is interesting because I'm in the process of planning a turbo build for the first time
Excellent video. Now do one for nitrous, please 😊😊😊
Excellent video with great information. This was a big help for people that have not attempted the turbo conversion yet. This video could've very well saved some motors.
If your already rebuilding the whole damn engine pay a little more money and get a garret gt or gtx turbo.
I agree with this. A prescision 6262 is even better but less reliable.
John Wat Borg Warners are pretty great as well
Wow, there's actually a lot more variables to look out for than I expected.
hey engineering explained i want to ask about your one previous video of spoiler
what happens if we put spoiler on front of car ??
ncs productions that what means ?
ncs productions OK
but tell me is there wii be any problem ?
ncs productions OK thank u
Yes, most of the time they use front splitters to make down force at the front, but there is a TC race car that actually installs a huge wing at the front, to compensate for the FWD traction loss(which is pretty bad @ 700whp & torque!):
www.motortrend.com/news/front-wingequipped-scion-tc-breaks-lap-record-at-willow-springs-5235/
Yes this is what I wanted because every other video just talks about installing the turbo without knowing how to prepare for it
you should do some rotary stuff 👍👍
It's good to see Aaron Kauffman on the tube again.
Step 1. Buy a car with a factory turbo.
Step 2. Enjoy your car.
SOLID! We have 2 other cars both factory turbo cars.
Great idea....unless you are one who would rather build your own rather then just buy what everyone else can. Not to mention a lot of times the car you like is not available with a factory turbo, which is all the more fun when some unsuspecting factory turbo car owner comes across a car the knows does not have one...and it does.
John L I would but state law won't allow me to go to higher than 35 mph roads
9/10 times they do that to make the engine smaller or the car just 'fast' putting one on later makes is really fast in comparison with weight and safety. So lots more fun
Yes John .L i do own a factory turbo car. It's a '09 HHR SS panel & i luv it owned since new now has 122 thousand miles but did have replace the factory turbo in sept of this year-stayed with another factory turbo. Aqua blue HHR
I didn't even know I needed this video.
Waiting for supercharged s2k
great tips !
Personally one of my personal tips is learning about how NA cars being converted to NA-T can have issues with their oem vacuum orientation. Reason being is because lets say you have actuators that work only under vacuum at a certain rpm. Lets say around that same RPM your car begins to form boost. well that actuator is going to work oppositely compared to what its designed to do because its line is being filled with pressure instead of vacuum.
I personally always run an external oil cooler on my turbo converted vehicles. aswell as upgraded radiator. making sure everything is cooling more efficiently over stock is key. i've seen some supras where they have some really nice high end mods and then they are rocking the stock radiator.
generic kit, like bought in 2002
440cc "bosch" ev6 injectors, chipped stock ecu, the "allmighty" t3/t4 turbo, the decrompression plate, 255lph walbro.
I mean there's nothing wrong with this stuff, but when i'm doing this, i might aswell do it like it's done in 2017.
he's spending that "much" money, but focuses on the wrong parts...
stock ecu has no overboost protection, no lean under boost safety, no egt correction, no fuel pressure fail safe...
gauges are not completely useless but still useless, you can't keep an eye on the health status of your car all the time.
true, hard to beat the price though for a kit like that. but i do agree in your points. Even the turbo seems kinda pointless in this kit if hes only thinking about running 10 psi of boost.
Years ago I had a 1986 Isuzu Trooper II. It had a 95 hp engine. Called a shop specializing in turbo conversions. They said they could put an aftermarket turbocharger on and increase the engine output to over 200 hp. Thought seriously about it but decided not to. I don't recall the price tag but it was a lot.
why is the video so quiet
What's ironic is that I'm planning on turbo charging the 2.Slow ABA in my Volkswagen MK3 Cabrio and I clicked on this video not even REALIZING Humble Mechanic was in this video... which a lot of us know he loves VW. I was like "Hellll yeahhh I definitely watching this video!"
Step 6: get a car with a turbo from factory
many cars don`t come with turbo...
actually If your buying a modern car , there is a big chance it will have a turbo in it , to help a down seized or small engine achieve the target power output.
Actually many new cars do, it's just that they're tiny, efficient, cupcake turbos...
Omega Rugal get. one. that. does.
King_tazzThats why I have a 97 Saab 900SE Turbo. it runs 13lbs of boost & pushes up to 148mph
I love watching videos with both of you. You guys are awesome!
Thanks :)
First
JR Garage no your not
JR Garage Saying first only works if you actually were the first.
JR Garage Go back to your lemonade stand
JR Garage can we see a video of all of you cars lined up while doing a burnout. that would be a good video.
or a video of you trying to drift the tesla.
Prabhu Dewangga was 1st actually
Jason, it would be great if you can have a video on ECU tuning and how it increases hp and what precautions are needed just like this Turbo one.
+Vairavan Srinivasan I have a couple videos on the subject, search my channel for "ECU tuning" and two should pop up.
i cant tell if he's 19 or if he's 40 lol
Immature much?
Probably 20 or 41 now
great video guys..... thanks for explaining it this way
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I'd also change pistons to ones with higher copper content. If the piston bottom is cooled by oil, the higher heat transfer rate will come in handy.
Also, make sure to choose an engine oil that can handle a higher temperature rating.
Number 1: Don't live in California.
Mr. LargoFeet why
raul69er1 It's called CARB.
Nobody should have to live in California.
The biggest issue is people in California leave and then make the same mistakes that ruined California....hint: voting for people like Moonbeam, Maxine Waters and Pelosi
I don't know if this will actually get read but you said internal combustion engines are about 30% efficient. I'm into motorcycles and my typical measure of an engines efficiency is looking at hp/liter. Why do cars rest around such a lower efficiency level when my WR250R (250cc dual sport) makes about 25 hp from the factory (100hp/liter) and closer to 30-32 with an exhaust and a fuel tuner (since these bikes run obnoxiously lean from stock). However, this number goes up to 200hp/liter once you get into the 600cc sport bikes which all push out around 120hp for modern options from the factory, once again with no boost.
Finally, my question laid out clearly is this, why do modestly tuned motorcycles make more hp/liter without boost than any given street car?
what a waste of a big turbo
Why not paint the intercooler black? Mighty Car Mods done a video on this and found zero temperature difference between stock vs painted.
Great video, it's given me a lot to think about before I turbo charge my inline 4cylinder vvti corolla
hey blue, the paint is an insulator, that is why no intercooler in any performance application, including F1 is anything other than bare aluminium.
Nasty beard
Sugestion: you should do a video explaining advantages and disadvantages of removing the DPF.
BTW you are awesome! Keep it up!
Cheers
Disadvantage: fail MOT emissions test.
Thank you. Now I can put turbos without as much danger.
On my 200 3.6(which has no after market turbo kit) and since its an open deck design i have to get an open deck support, beef up the trans, lower temp thermo stat, and the big one, dyno tune, hand help tunes are great, but dyno tunes are better imo
Is this vid a preface to turboing that S2000? Excellent platform for some serious forced induction power.
Perhaps another vid idea could be choosing a platform to turbo. You touched on identifying and upgrading the weak points in #5. There are definitely cars that are better for turboing (like your S2000) where you won't have to replace spendy and/or many components like pistons/rods/transmission/axles etc. Others that have the strength in the drivetrain components...and others that it would just make more sense to choose a different platform altogether. Case in point...the audi 2.7t. Other than clutch and fueling, you are pretty good to hit 500+hp with just bigger turbos and intercoolers.
I live in Arizona, that story is cool, and very true!