Exposing the Agenda and Origins of "The Passion Translation"
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- See the agenda built into "The Passion Translation" and get the truth about it's translator, Brian Simmons. Including interview footage and eye witness testimony, this will hopefully give you what you need to know in order to reject this translation for being a sectarian mistranslation of the Bible.
Links below
Scholarly Article Dealing with TPT - themelios.thegospelcoalition.o...
My first video on TPT - lots of good examples of changes! • My Concerns About The ...
My web site - biblethinker.org
I must say these are very, very thorough and helpful videos brother. Very useful. Thank you!
Very well done, Mike. I'm in an area where many churches have the "Passion" in their resource center and use if from the pulpit. This information will help me greatly in making my case to those who are still "mesmerized" by this.
L L Make your case. I read the Passion Translation as a comparative tool, but it’s not my preferred translation. The NASB is. There is nothing wrong with the poetic and prophetic language that that the author uses in the Passion T. It’s kind of refreshing rather and very well done.
So awesome for people to see you endorse this! You're on my list for one of the people I want to watch soon, it's really cool to hear people's salvation stories and testimonies and when the power of the Holy Spirit just completely interrupts the course someone's life had and puts them on the right path❤ the real power of the Holy Spirit in truth of course LOL not if I feel like it's the power of the Holy Spirit
@@solitarypawn5076 ..the only problem is with the bits that are made up, that are completely not there in the Greek....
I came into this as a fan of The Passion Translation. After 10-15 minutes, I am confessing my foolishness.
It takes a big person to admit to being wrong. Good for you!
This encouraged me. Bless you!
Praise God! I honor you for doing that. My pastors do not want to hear anything about this (the dangers of this translation) and they are basically saying I am overreacting. They are using it to preach from the pulpit. I left the church a couple of days ago and I am trusting God to show me where to go. Please pray for my former church and for me. Thank you my brethren in the LORD Jesus.
There was an earlier foolishness that caught me, in many decades back, in my 'Christian youth phase'. it was the beautifully linguistically-sculpted, densely rich vocabularied New English Bible, the "NEB". But at least the NEB came out completed, and translated by a whole field of GENUINE ecclesiastic protestant scholarship; not in the serial production format, money-spinner, ersatz-translator's TPT with it's rorting and distorted polity.
That is such an awesome story! Make sure to ask the Holy Spirit to help you build a case to show the other people you know who started getting into it🤗
My heart is grieving. I used to believe all this stuff. Thank you for bringing this to light. I’ve never read this translation but have gotten into the movement with the popular music. Please pray for me as I need to break this news to my sister in law. We believed in this signs and wonders movement I never really looked into it until I started reading the Word and studying the Bible for myself. Praise the Lord for bringing me out of deception and thank you Pastor Mike for all that you do. God bless❤️
Rachel Kubiak If a person is sincere and seeking GOD will lead them to the truth. The sad fact is most folks are NOT seeking. They feel like if they sit in church they’re going to heaven.
"We believed in this signs and wonders movement"
Do you believe God does physical healing these days?
@@davidford15 one can not believe in the signs and wonders movement and still be a continuationist. I am that person. I believe in the continuation of the gifts of the Holy Spirit, but I do not buy into the movement that is happening.
@@davidford15 for clarity, I mean one can "not believe" ... NOT one "can't believe and still" ...
So, the Passion Translation is basically the Joseph Smith Translation - Hypercharismatic Edition, then? 😉
Basically
..love it... we need something a bit catchier though..
Brian Simmons describes in another video, a divine being walking through his wall, commissioning him to write TPT, with the help and secrets provided by “God.”
Sounds a lot like the many demonic paranormal encounters that some people experience.
I have come out of the hyper Charismatic Movement. I believed EVERYTHING!! Then after having children I noticed the manipulation and man centered ethic. Any vestige of Christianity that remains is by the hand of a merciful God. It is something that has strained me toward deep theological study to find my own roots in the faith. Thanks Mike for the encouragement to study hard.
Great vid, thanks! A question Mike: do we even know if he even ACTUALLY translated it from the original languages? My gut says he simply RETRANSLATED it FROM THE ENGLISH! What do you think??
A dear friend insisted I should read from the Passion Translation. I took a few looks and couldn’t stomach the excessive wordiness. I knew it was a paraphrase, not a translation. Technically a paraphrase is the rewording of another English language Bible whereas a translation comes directly from the original Hebrew and Greek. So I don’t know if this technically is a paraphrase but I strongly believe it is. To call this a translation is an egregious misuse of that word.
I agree with that, I have no qualifications but it sure feels like it was just rewriting the English Bible, although I suppose he had to know something about the words in the other languages in order to twist some of them the way he did
“Activated” reminds me of the kundalini spirit activation.
Same BS. He just wants your money
Yep.
exactly
Vote for a serpent seed video
Also maybe Michael Heizer’s “unseen realm”
Thank you for the very clear teaching on The Passion Translation. The Lord Jesus is using you greatly in many ways. I appreciate your dedication to the Truth.
Such a valuable video, thank you Mike for all your hard work and diligent, logical apologetics!
P.s. you are such a “religious scholar”!
Thanks for shedding light on this! I imagine it was quite exhausting.
Another thing I was wondering about due to something in your last video on TPT. It had these footnotes "The Aramaic says ". Now I actually studied Philology and Archaeology and Art History, and work with medieval manuscripts. It's not easy and I believe impossible to do a text critical analysis if you can't read Old Syrian/Aramaic. I am wondering whether he is also not honest there with the content of the footnotes...at least it's not enough to say "The Aramaic says...". He is not referring to any specific manuscript there...
Thanks Mike much appreciated. I had never heard of this but it is always helpful to know what is being offered out there to our brothers and sisters and to guide them to the truth.
This is REALLY helpful to be able to understand the actual source of something like this. THANK YOU !
So thankful for all you do.. for all of us. Keep 'em coming! I'm learning A. Lot.
As a Pentecostal who has personally pursued many years of formal theological training just to battle this movement and help reform the movement, I want to say thank you. Keep up the good work and know that others are fighting with you.
Thank you Mike! I appreciate it. He who has ears let him hear. There's a group of people who don't even want to hear this and justify since it's a "Bible" it's fine and should not be criticized.
Thank you again Mike for the work you do. Thoroughly enjoy all of your teachings and I can tell how grounded and rooted you are in loving truth.
Keep doing what you do, it’s so important and very helpful. Thank you. God bless
So thankful for your channel! It's an excellent resource for all. I hope this video gets out to all who are uninformed about this sectarian "translation"
This is a very thorough, well researched presentation of TPT and the agenda driving it. Thanks for taking the time to warn the Body of Christ. We need to be made aware of these things so we can share with others as God directs. I just hope we can all be as gracious and loving as you when we are challenged to expose erroneous teachings and movements within the church. Blessings to you Mike. 😊
Thank you for this thorough and eye opening review. Exposing false teachers and teaching is so vital. Showing and playing the supporting facts is so powerful. Thank you again!
Thank you for this (and all of your other videos)! So glad I found your channel. The church I attend has embraced with open arms the Passion "translation" (I call it the Passion Transgression) and all things "Apostolic". Not long before I leave. Keep up the awesome work!
I too am silently leaving the same kind of church. One of the pastors uses only the passion when she preaches . I've struggled to leave because this church has been my family for many decades. But I have not attended all summer and not going back
Thank you SO much for sharing that you’ll be involved in a debate on the resurrection of our LORD. What an incredible opportunity for prayer! By the way deeply appreciate these videos.
Thanks for doing these videos on this "translation". I have a question that is quite off topic I wasn't able to ask during the livestream: Have you thought about doing a video comparing and (probably mostly) contrasting Dispensationalism and Covenant Theology?
The passion translation never sat right with me... I always felt off in my spirit when I heard it. Now it all makes sense why. Thank you for this!!
Me too and when I questioned it the leadership had many excuses of why it's ok
Mike I was given a passion “translation” of the Gospel of John. I read it. I have dozens of translations many of which are long out of print and the current translations and paraphrased versions of the Gospel of John. I confirm that his “translation” is reckless and he did not submit his work to oversight or checking with established scholars. Listening to his video he puts out and his work of “translation” I have arrived at the opinion that he is a robust apostate.
Shared to Facebook, good stuff there Mike! Thanks so much and God bless 😊🙏
I recently left a WoF/NAR church and they would preach from the passion translation
We are so grateful you have done this expose'. We have forwarded it to many and re-posted it. We saw Brian Simmons in person 1 1/2 years ago and gave warnings to people in our sphere of influence. This is so very dangerous! In addition to your chart, he has 'decreased' the number of mentions of 'Christ' significantly. Thanks for your good work!
One can’t search other bible translations on Amazon, without Passion coming up at the top of the list.
Excellent information, Mike
Awesome....your videos are very detailed but most importantly aligned with the word. Your videos are also helping me with push back points from none believers. Be blessed Mike.
Thank you for your time and effort in making these videos.
I have been looking for material on The Passion to send to my friends and family, and this video is very helpful. Thanks Mike.
As a believer coming out of a church under Mr. Brian the teaching that we're equal with God a common thing. I've recently responded to them, " if you equal with God then create something, anything ". That's just the tip of the iceberg.
Feeling Super Edified @20:00 >> Awesome stuff MIke!
My daughter is currently studying at Dallas International University, on a campus with Wycliff, Pioneer Bible Translators, and SIL with the goal of moving overseas to do translation work. These men and women are extremely intelligent, their course work is often brutal, and the process of translation work itself is very carefully done, always done in teams anymore. The weight of their calling is enormous and requires years of preparation. Brian Simmons makes a mockery of those translators who have gone before and those coming in the future. Just because it is in English does not mean one can be so careless with God's word.
The exposure of these things is much appreciated!
Thanks Mike, looking forward to your debate on the resurrection of Jesus!
Mike, Thanks for posting this needed information. I pray you are unaffected by the study of this paraphrased, sectarian translation. That you spend extra time in the true Word and the Lord wash the stain away.
You know how my gifts are 'activated'? Prayer and meditation on the Word
I was given a 3 chapter selection from The Passion Translation by Kingdomcity and I didn't even want to take it home initially. I felt like something was so, so, off when I was being offered to take it home. Upon watching this video and looking at the beginning of John from TPT, this gave me so much clarity. Thank you, Mike for explaining how unbiblical the TPT is.
Thank you for this Mike. Now there’s at least 2 great video resources to refer people to - praise our Lord!
I've noticed that lots of people are putting PhD before their names who've gotten like a distance learning degree online. And they're presenting it like they studied Semitic language at Johns Hopkins
Yes, the plethora of weak/fake "doctorates" in Christian ecclesial circles is ridiculous and misleading.
You can get a distance learning PhD, so I don't know why this would be a problem so long as they actually got a PhD.
It is so different from earning a degree whilst taking classes in person, @@BeardedDisciple.
MUCH learning is often done right after class, when students are in spirited discussion(s) over the material which was just presented in class. It really helps to verbally put ideas toward classmates who may have a different denominational/theological background.
Absolutely, @Creeping Death. There were a number of students who didn't partake and they failed to graduate because of things such as a lack of understanding of certain topics.
Sadly, ignorance is real.
@@IndianaJoe0321 It was funny in my last year in college..Me and one other of my class mates helped eachother with bit and stuff...but I mostly did all of my studies alone - I got the best grades in the entire class lol.
I've heard that the Passion Translation was the only Bible in the Bethel Store California, and I just saw that it is the only one only at Bethel Store online... Very disturbing... As well I've already heard Bill Johnson preaching where he said to avoid read certain books in the Bible, like Proverbs or others, but to stick with the books of the apostles, and especially the book of acts.
Great work Mike. I appreciate the systematic and disciplined method of your research and presentation.
This is so awesome Mike! There are so many testimonies in the comments section of people who have seen the truth through your work! Praise God!
Thanks for the word list brother. I love the point you made following 13:42 - It's so telling. Another word I would guess is overused in this would be "Favor"
Also, a large percentage of people who go to Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry (BSSM) use GoFundMe as a way to raise their tuition and living expenses while at BSSM....you can go on their website and just type in BSSM and see for yourself. Not only that, but the international students are encouraged to go on welfare because they cannot work; however Bethel requires a large number of volunteer hours of their students. There are a number of businesses owned by Bethel members who use these “volunteer” students and even contribute to their GoFundMe accounts (making it another way they keep from paying taxes). AND Bethel has taken over a LARGE portion of our housing market, including apartments. They cram 4 students into a fully furnished 2 bedroom apartment (900 sf) that costs $795/mo on the open market and charge from $395 to $415 per student. That is a gain to Bethel of at least $785/mo for the multitude of apartments they have taken over. They are also buying up more apartment buildings and kicking out long time tenants for their school; causing a significant shortage of affordable housing in the area. All these statements and figures can be proven just by searching on the internet. How do we stop them????
can you provide sources?
Someone's coming soon to straighten it al out..
Just hold on :)
As long as people want to go to the ministry school, it's not going to stop. I knew people who went there - all of them returned and had become...flippant. That's the best word to describe it. They has been really nice, warm people before, but after their year in Bethel that was somewhere buried underneath that flippancy.
same with IHOP. People get very weird after going to these schools, and not in a good way. They come back with a "holier than thou" attitude and look down on others who aren't part of their "elite movement."
Yvonne Harrison
I want to believe these groups and programs have good intentions, but it really has become more of a "culture" and less and less God's word and power. We don't need to go to California or Kansas City to be Christ-like and to live according to God's will. It's worrying to hear all the students they are giving false help.
Mike, I just found you and have been enjoying your videos. (I didn't at first because as a former JW, I judged your teaching as false by the graphics around the intro picture. Seemed a bit worldly. After all, I was trained to believe that Christians only teach in suits and don't have a beard. Oh my...been out over 35 years and still fighting the brainwashing.) I joined a Christian Church 35 years ago but always compared what was said from the pulpit with what had been hammered into me for the first 25 years of my life. I listened to sermons with judgement instead of growing in faith. Then when humans behaved like sinful humans, it was easy to judge them as well. So instead of forgiving as instructed by Christ, I cut off fellowship. (After all that's all I knew. When I left entire family and all my friends, including my own son, were not allowed to talk to me after I left the JWs.) But God is so good! He has been so patient with me and praise Him I am being baptized as a Christian. He has lead me to forgiveness and opened my eyes to the TRUTH of his word. I stay in prayer for my lost family.
These are just a few truths that I now know, "He who is in me, is greater than he who is in the world!"
How freeing and wonderful it is to believe the ENTIRE Bible as Gods only inspired word! I am a temple for the Holy Spirit and He dwells in me! At the name of Jesus every knee will bow, in heaven, on earth and below the earth. Only to God does every knee bow!
You are right about the brainwashing. The enemy has powerful tactics to keep people from the REAL TRUTH! Only God's word is truth! Have you noticed, I'm sure you have, how JW.org sidesteps the origins of their cult denying Charles T Russell, in whom they took great pride as long as they could keep the truth about his lies hidden. When I was a JW, he was the founding hero of the faith as late as the 1980s. (I escaped in 1981. I imagine the Information Age brought to light his deceit and instead of admitting they are wrong, they are trying to pretend that he didn't really start the cult. More lies, Typical.
Thank you for your lovingly handling the doctrines of JWs. You are right, the average member is so unaware and utterly confused! Keep informing!!!!! Prayers for you. 🙌✝️🙏
Debbie Moore Congratulations on joining the family! ♥️ God bless as you journey on! See you on the other side 😁
Thankyou So much!!! I am just waking up to this now. I realize how serious it is...it snuck in whole the church doesnt know the word of God...and all the NAR stuff...scary!!!!
I live in Redding, CA and is the home of Bill Johnson’s Bethel Church. They are literally taking over our city! Their website states they are now non-denominational (began as AoG many years ago); however, they follow all the NAR movements, including teaching out of TPT. They have a school here where people come from all over the world to attend BSSM (Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry). People can even get a certificate which only a handful of Christian universities accept a few credits for. Where Mike is right on is where TPT teachings about “activating their spiritual gifts” is all about the money. They have taken over our Civic Center to host their BSSM. They currently have 1 of their elders who was voted onto the Redding City Council and next month, 3 of the 5 people running for City Council are Bethel people. They are in the process of finishing approval for a $9 MILLION facility in Redding. Besides their church of 10,000 people (Redding only has a population of 85,000) and the collections they get from their world-wide audience and in Redding, their BSSM 1st and 2nd year students pay $5000 per year (not including their living expenses). Third year students are only $650-$900. Right now, the total number of students they have enrolled this year is 2000, which will increase to 3000 per year when their new campus is built. Every year, they are FULL UP! 2000x$5000=$10,000,000 per year!!! THEY ARE COMPLETELY TAX EXEMPT BECAUSE THEY ARE A CHURCH AND A SCHOOL! They also have Bethel Music which has inundated the mainstream Christian media with their deceitful teachings and is making so much money. This is not only a Redding, CA crisis, but a worldwide crisis! Watching Bethel do what they have done in such a short period of time, I can see why Jesus said in Mark 13:22 “For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.”
Wow. So true. Sounds like Redding is turning into Salt Lake!
Thank you so much for this. I have never read the passion translation but my daughter loves it so I will be sharing your video with her right now!
I had no idea there were so many translations until I found your video "Good, Bad & Ugly".
All of the related videos have been really enlightening to what is available and what to avoid!
I was taken to the realm of the prophetic where I was anointed, activated, and empowered from the secret place of God himself. I received renewed passion with the revelation of promise that Jesus himself was imparting to me the supernatural spiritual gifts of empowerment, miracles, and freedom. - and now I can show that all of my imaginations are in the Bible itself! Great video Mike.
This is about a much bigger problem than an errant 'translation', this is a prime example of how deception seeps into the Church. Acts 20:29-30. Good job Mike.
Mike did you put the link somewhere on here relating to the resourse where ETHNOS360 spoke about 'distancing themselves" from Brian Simmons?
Put a negative review of this on the Bethel Online Store. Will see if it stays up.
I just Love listening to you.
Thank you for your work. Which Bible App did you use to look and compare the number of times a term is used in TPT vs. other translations?
awesome work thank you for opening my eyes the passion translation was introduced to me by someone who has a phd in poetry must send her a link to your clip the bible isnt something to fool with am humbled and shocked thank you for opening my eyes
Hello Brother Mike!
What are the verses in TPT that talked of 7 mountain theology? I am having a hard time finding them
Love your videos so much! Thank you for proclaiming truth in love & upholding the Word of God. You mentioned that you would leave a church quietly except for horrible heresies. What are some wrong teachings that would be worth making noise about?
I just heard about TPT today as of 04/03/2020, I just told Brian, thank you, now I am watching a comparison
Another A+ keep exposing this heresy!
What do the asterisks (*) by some words on the chart indicate?
And what site was used to research the word occurrences? I've been looking for a resource like that but (last I checked) there aren't many sites with tPt online (which is both good and bad, I guess -- good to keep it out of people's minds and bad to limit the research we can do about it without buying from them)
As a Bethel defector, here’s a few other catch phrase words they market....
“experience”
“presence”
“soak/soaking”
“fire”
“hosting”
“Invitation/invite”
“culture”
“drunk/wrecked/undone”
“holy laughter”
I’m curious to know how many times any of these words (or any combination of these words) show up.
Thank you for your discernment !
Thanks to the coronavirus quarantine, I got the time.
TPT ESV
experience 209 9
presence 209 172
soak 10 1
soaking 3 0
fire 158 430
hosting 0 0
invite 49 40
invitation 9 0
culture 7 0
drunk 39 79
wrecked 0 4
undone 3 5
holy laughter 0 0
Obviously ESV had more returns on some terms because it was a search on all of scripture, not just Psalms, Proverbs, Isaiah, and NT. The result on "experience" and "presence" was not a typo. They were both right at 209. I did the search on the biblegateway website.
Thank you for your videos! Can you do a video comparing oneness to trinitarian theology?
Oof... There goes the adversary (Simmons) mixing truth with the lies in order to validate his error and confusion. We ARE anointed if we are baptized in the Holy Spirit, separate than being born again, but tell that to the wrong person and they'll start believing they are now "little g gods".
Psalm 82
6 I said ye are gods and sons of the Most High
7 but ye shall die like the mere men you are and fall like the princes
God bless you!!!! Thanks a lot
Thank you, Mike🌹🌹🌹
You the boss Mike!
Hi Mike. Great video. What's your thoughts on The Message translation? Although we don't use it in our church, I have read a few passages and found them wanting. Some might not even consider it a true translation at all. Is it as bad as TPT or just a peculiar translation? Thanks for your ministry. Matt
Message is a paraphrase as far I'm concerned . I Make it one of the things I like to do, read different types of Bibles that come out. . But i was raised in the church and I'm very familiar with the KJV.
Did he ever post the link for the quotes from the Ethnos 360 guys?
Thankyou u are very informative for people like me who are not college folks I’m a very supernatural moving person but I want to remain biblical so I don’t stray from truth
I listened to interview with Brian Simmons and he mentioned that he received "secrets"...😐. He also boasted about using aramaic, which is interesting because the New Testament was originally written in Greek, so what's being translated from aramaic? The interview had a weird feeling.
Have you ever done a study on the healing rooms? I have a friend that got involved with them and I can no longer discuss the Bible with her. It feels like she has joined a cult. Does the healing room have anything to do with NAR? She is a fan of the TPT.
This sect group is actually not so small. It's going global
Hi Mike! Have you gotten a hold of the statement about Brian Simmons? Thank you for all your teachings!
I have it but haven’t had the time to make a video with it yet. I will do that as soon as time allows.
Thank you!
@@MikeWinger Why don't you have a real debate with Brian Simmons and find out why he created his incredible and awesome translation? Don't hide.
@@solitarypawn5076 me and him spoke for quite a while. He preferred that I keep the conversation private though.
Omg, made the exact observation from Mark 23:13 to my aunt who is currently attending BSSM. I can't explain how frustrating it is to go into detail to try and gently wake someone up from whatever stupor they're in and then get completely ignored.
I think that the reason why NAR is flourishing has to do with how the times are producing fertil ground for narcissistic people and addiction. Boring life is not tolerable anymore and dopamine fixes are readily available. Si what is more attractive a God according to the Bible or a God according to your feelings?
I want to see you compare it to original manuscripts of greek and Hebrew
The NT was originally in Aramaic, not Greek.
FYI at Min 12 - when Brian Simmons says everything that can be spoken about Him (Jesus Christ) can be spoken about you... That is wording DIRECTLY from the Word of Faith movement when Copeland, etc claim to be "I AM" too.
"Simmons says everything that can be spoken about Him (Jesus Christ) can be spoken about you" Is this a true statement?: Many things that can be spoken about Jesus Christ can be spoken about you.
Some very interesting points here - and some very clear evidence of the agenda. On a couple of occasions as you were showing some mistranslations, I was thinking to myself, "The Jehovah's Witnesses do the same thing with their translation and agenda" Same method, slightly different deceptive path.
God bless your excellent efforts to warn the Church of false teachers and their efforts to deceive. Great video
I think we have the same problem with the word “sovereign” when you compare NIV vs ESV, NASB or NKJV. Any thoughts?
SIMMONS HAS AN ANTICHRIST SPIRIT WITHIN HIM. He exudes rebellion against God. Praying for him. THANK YOU for this information !!! Your chart is a great visual, says it all at a glance. SHARING.
thank you, so well done
Hey Mike, Love your exposition on this subject! There's a friend I have been discipling for some time now, who recently screenshotted a verse on the bible app (lifehurch.tv, youversion) and sent it to me and it was in the Passion translation!!! I immediately saw it and, was alarmed. I guess a devotional she did on worry within this app, was set to TPT, and so the setting overrode her default KJV setting. SCARY, right! Do you know a way we can combat this translation wiggling it's way in on inexperienced believers through this bible app?
Yeah. I'm on the YouVersion team. I'll ask the others if we can't put a setting in the app, to disable auto-switching translations in the plans. Going from KJV to TPT is a pretty big downgrade, especially if you have no idea it's happening!
I wanted to comment on the other video about this topic but it wouldn't let me. In one of the verses you compared it seems to become gender neutral. And you mention the keywords that the signs and wonder group uses that are incorporated into the translation. I think they could also be called insider language. I just wanted to say that my previous church really did a lot of that insider language and it drove me nuts. I was just so clueless about the different belief in Christianity and didn't really that short of being a cult it was a high control group. There was a peer pressure within the group to conform to the "church culture". I just wanted to say about the clip you showed of Brian Simmons that really scared me when he talked about the secret revelation because cult leaders / groups do that. I am glad I found your videos and am learning more here. You know how I found you? It was because 2 young ladies came to my door 2 weeks ago asking me if I had ever heard of God the Mother! I had to learn more about that. Thank you for your channel! Man, it's so hard to find good Bible teachers nowadays. I grew up in the church but still was naive. But I am older and wiser now and that painful experience opened my eyes to not follow a pastor or husband. I want to know how other people experience God. There was a lot of talk in my former group about hearing from God. Now I am very conservative and shy away from saying God told me. What are you thoughts Mike on, God told me...
A BIG THANK YOU FOR THIS INSTALMENT !!!!
Pastor Mike,....you’ve prepared a good work that details how unlike TPT is from the other translations you’ve referenced (and not in a good way theologically or scripturally). You sharpened my senses regarding the potential danger this ‘translation’ brings to unprepared followers,....but at approximately 52 min., you addressed a question from a lady who asked about what she should do regarding leaving her church that uses TPT, and I thought you’d immediately advise her to just quietly not go there any longer and find a new family gathering to join. Instead, in your answer, you seemed to go ‘soft’ on the very subject you just “shredded” (and I use that term with trepidation, bracing for reaction). When Jesus entered the Temple grounds and began flipping tables while telling all that He was angry they were defiling His Father’s house,...TPT is (to me) a crafty, deceitful, misleading , and dangerous pit that many will not survive if they get ‘close’. God bless your work,...and please give my comment room to allow the Spirit to work, if He will. Don P
Can you do a video on what exactly is the NAR?
Thank you for this excellent and thoughtful analysis of the Passion translation, the ethos of this particular brand of Pentecostalism has affected some church movements local to me in the UK and it’s really fascinating how words used in the PT have turned up in the theology being used locally. I downloaded the PT but your work has revealed that it’s nearly as bad a translation as the New World one. Thanks again
Thank you brother!!!
My pastor and some in the leadership are starting to use this. Often before reading a passage it is common for them to say they are getting a lot out of TPT.
Hey Pastor Mike would you ever interview Pastor Dean Odle? Im sure he'd love to be interviewed on your program
The “Wagner School” is not accredited. They have “given” out many honorary doctorates to NAR leaders. I question this doctorate as much as I question his other qualifications. As a doctoral student myself, this is alarming.
Thank you Pastor Mike. This has been a concern of mine for a few years as I have dear friends who seem to be quoting and using this more and more. I have been vehemently against it personally but your videos are so helpful to be able to share. Thank you for loving the Lord Jesus, the Truth and helping us to understand!
Passion “translation” more like perversion.
It is so funny that you say that God has already inspired the Scripture and it isnt to be changed or meddled with when that is exactly what other translations or so called "revisions" have done.
Those other translations have desensitized so many people to where when a Bible like the passion translation comes in they are like "oh yay, another "easy" bible to read." Because that's all people want is easy and lazy and not have to actually study God's word they want it to be simplified when life shouldn't be simplified all the time it makes us lazy and not worth anything. We need meat when all they want is milk
I will be praying for that debate