wood turning # 19 birch goblet
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ธ.ค. 2015
- wood turned silver birch goblet, the wood was punky and spalted, I attempted captured rings unsuccessfully although i've done it before with success, there are processes I use to deal with such wood as described in this video.
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Really appreciate you 'carried on' despite it being an horrendous piece of wood.
As a 'newbie' I've had many mishaps so far but seeing how you carried on regardless has inspired me to keep going. Thanks.
andy
Oh it was a 🥴 piece of wood and I’ve ran into many similar pieces, after years of turning and learning there is always a way around things to make the best out of what you have, stabilizing and casting are a couple of things worth looking into if you run into similar wood.
Thanks for watching and keep turning
Rob
As always beautiful wood
This is a very old video, the wood was punky and my turning technique not as good as it is now, thankfully I’ve improved over the years
Thanks for watching
I'm actually glad you had so many problems with the Birch, it makes me feel less bad about how poorly my experience with it has gone. Back to spruce, I guess, and decreasing my tools every day... Thanks for the video, nice work on the goblet!
Spruce? Isn't that too soft?
I love punky wood with figure, but it is a challenge, a lot of it comes down to the 100 grit gouge 😎. I am actually overwhelmed at the responses to this particular project
Take care
Rob
Oooh Lord man. thats an exceptional video. I learned more from this, than all the rest put together.
Thanks Buddy.
Mr Mashta
Well thank you very much, really appreciate the people watching, liking and commenting on my videos
Take care
Rob
hello rob as always nice video and very informative liking the goblet
Hi Phil,
Thanks for watching mate and glad you like the finished goblet, wasn't sure it was going to make it out alive but I think I got lucky, sheer determination worked out. 😉
Take care
Rob
Being new to woodturning, I appreciate your example of following-through after problems. Poor wood, rim uneven, broken rings, etc. and you finished it!
And it looks good.
It doesn't always go as planned, but it's a learning curve dealing with different materials, density of wood, tooling, etc
Thanks for watching
Rob
A very nice goblet sir. Your cuffs frighten me, flapping around so close to the spinning lathe.
Hi Eric,
Yes I saw that too, thanks for mentioning it, safety is so important around the lathe, things can go bad really quickly.
Take care
Rob
Nice goblet Rob! the silver birch looks very nice, shame about the rings but these things happen. I haven't tried silver birch yet but have earmarked one to take down next year .Great video and thanks for sharing .Have a great Christmas, Bram.
Hi Bram, thanks for watching mate, I appreciate the comments, glad you like the video, makes it worthwhile documenting the process when you run into issues like this, but as I said before I even started the rings I knew they would fail.
Take care
Rob
First off, let me say that I enjoy all of your videos and I have had the opportunity to learn a thing or two from you. Thanks for sharing your knowledge! From the condition of the wood you were turning, I think your goblet turned out great. I was thinking as I was watching that maybe a gouge would have reduced the tare out a little bit? From my experience using carbide cutters I find that I get a better cut with a gouge. Just the opinion of a novice wood turner here that's been turning for only 4 years now.
Bob, you've been turning longer than I have, I've only been turning 2 1/2 years but had the opportunity of watching my dad turn wood as a child growing up.
I agree with your comment, a bowl gouge may have reduced tear out significantly, I went through a phase of only using carbide as I was terrible at sharpening my tools.
Take care
Rob
Thanks Rob. Hadn’t thought of that. Tom
Hi
just a thought if you try using a spindle gouge or a bowl gouge instead of a carbide scraper you might not get as much tear out as you got with this but saying that you finished off very well
have fun and safe turning Ian
Hi Ian,
Very possible, I'll maybe do a box with the left over piece and use my gouges, but you saw even with my beading tool how punky the wood is so I still doubt it would make much difference riding a bevel, we will see, thanks for watching.
Cheers now
Rob
subbed :) great video, loving the flag Il be putting one up in my shop when I have built it
Hi Nathan,
Thanks for the sub, watching and commenting, I do appreciate all comments it helps me and others.
Take care
Rob
Just a bit of friendly advice: learn to use a skew and a gouge and stop using a carbide scraper for all of your cuts and you will see a dramatic difference in tear out. Scrapers RIP the fibers out of the wood instead of cutting them. Don't get me wrong, scrapers have their place but, at a minimum, try using a rouging gouge to get the wood to a cylinder instead of tearing it up with that scraper. Good luck!
Also, you will find that turning is much more enjoyable when you learn to actually shear the wood, scraping is tedious and boring and it will make turning uninteresting eventually!
I totally agree and in the 5 years since this video I have converted to traditional tools, if you watch any of my more recent videos you’ll hopefully see better results
Thanks for watching
Rob
Very nice looking gobletMerry Christmas
+Al Furtado (Rebel WoodTurner) thanks Al and the same to you too mate, I enjoy watching your videos also, have a happy and healthy New Year.
take care
Rob
Nice "making lemonade" on the lathe!
Michael Ogden
Ha ha yea, I soldiered on with this one and can't believe the attention it has had
Thanks for watching
Rob
Nice video shame the wood wouldn't co-operate. well worth watching for a beginner like myself. Thanks....
Glad you could get something from it, the wood was definitely not ideal.
Take care
Rob
Woodslee Summercraft f
This is the first video of yours that I've seen, and I had to subscribe. I agree with Mike Waldt. I think it was just some bad wood. Keep up the good work!
Hi Jon,
Thank you for watching and subscribing, I appreciate that, I have since posted a successful captured ring goblet, same process different wood longer stem and better luck.
Take care
Rob
NICE WORK NO MATTER WHAT
thank you :-)
Looks nice with the end finish. Would steel tools so that you can run on the bevel have worked better rather than carbide which is basically a scraper? I had a very flaky piece I used for my first captive ring and turning the outside used a skew which produced a very good finish, mainly because of running on the bevel. Still needed a lot of sanding though.
Paul
I went through a phase of living carbide for everything I turned, I've since returned to mostly traditional tools.
I'm not sure if bevel contact would have made this any better as the wood was very punky.
Thanks for watching
Rob
Paul Lockwood
Lesbiennes âgées
I'm sorry. If your rings being small maybe you have success. But your goblet are beautifull.
Geraldo Paiva - Pindamonhangaba - SP- Brasil.
Geraldo Paiva Soares
Thanks for watching. You can't win them all but you make the best of it.
Take care
Rob
Nice looking goblet Rob....looks better without the rings anyway ;).
In seriousness though, I would venture to say the reason they exploded was the "punky" wood, your technique seemed to be spot on to me....but then again....what the hell do I know eh?
Take care matey, and a Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Mike
Hi Mike,
And a very merry Christmas to you and yours too, lol when it comes to goblets you are the man, and a very worthy critique so I appreciate your comments.
Take care mate and talk soon eh
Rob
love the video! great work. Question, where did you get that tool that looks like a half circle skew?
It’s a scraper and honestly you’re better of with gouges
Good go, love the rings, I know you have to be a rich bastard in order to see them, so of course I do!! ;) I hate working with punky wood and would avoid doing so if I could help it, I mean, if it's just a little punky I'll work around it, but a piece like yours? fire place fodder... good job on making something pretty out of it!
Yuval, I knew someone would appreciate my captured rings on this 😬 punky can be a pain to work with but I felt I had to finish it. I'm happy I did as it is a gift.
Merry Christmas
Rob
Also when you have a supply of olive wood like you do pppfff, you lucky fella. How is it like to turn green? I can only get very dry olive and I find it brittle.
+Woodslee Summercraft Well, turning green Olive is pretty much the best, it's extremely dense, yet cuts softly (so long long streamers happen all the time), problem is some of the Olive I find (and all my wood is found wood, except for things people send me) is quite dry, but far from brittle, more like fire hardened, I'm talking about stone hard, sharpening every 5 minutes hard, so yeah, it can go both ways...
gostei
Agradecer
This is of more value than you put on it, every piece is different, just by the nature of wood it is a work of art.
kimblewt
Thankyou, honestly I am blown away at the response and views that I have had on this one video.
I really do appreciate people watching and commenting.
Take care
Rob
Hey Rob.
Just came across your video. Nice job with difficult wood. I too have to balance the difficulty of using spalted wood and how nice it can look.
Wondering what the final finish was that you used since it would need to be food grade safe to drink liquids from. Did you use mineral oil...maybe mixed with a beeswax or similar? Or do you subscribe to the opinion I hear frequently that any distillates will eventually evaporate out, like the denatured alcohol in shellac?
Cheers
Elliot
ah the foodsafe debate, lol who wants to go there, most of my work is for ornamental purposes only, unless someone wants specifically to use for food, i have found that most foodsafe finishes are not as durable and require re application, you could always apply beeswax over any finish to be sure.
this video surprises me at how many times it has been watched, it was a difficult turn with such wood, i have tried different methods to stabilize wood over the years.
take care
Rob
Less tear out with hss tools turned out good though!
you are absolutely right, i tend to use hss more frequently now.
thanks for watching
take care
Rob
Hi. What do you use for a finish that doesn’t affect the quality of the liquid poured in the goblet? Tom
Hi Tom
Firstly this is a very old video, I like to think my techniques have improved since turning this.
To answer your question I highly recommend multiple coats of thin ca super glue to seal the wood for liquids, it will be food safe when cured, tasteless and odourless.
Take care
Rob
eu também gostei dessa linda taça de madeira
Rosângela Aparecida de Assis Rocha
Obrigado por assistir e estou feliz que você gostou. cuidar
Rob
leonardo
looks good
Thanks Timothy
Timothy McSwain rzedredi
hi what sort o lathe are you using and nice work
James
Thanks for watching, this is my old Canadian master craft lathe, I now have a king Canada lathe, both very similar to many models out there, this really is a beginners lathe imo but a great starter lathe
Take care
Rob
Good job handling a difficult piece of wood. Well done! I like the background music as well. Who is the musician?.
Thankyou for watching, you never know the challenge each piece will present
The music is free from TH-cam
Take care
Rob
Could try to true the rim back up with a cutting tool to get in back in one plane
Hi tom, I thought about that, but I already lost some of the rim trying just that prior to sanding, the way I see it, you have to decide when to stop, so I did, I personally don't mind minor imperfections, these are one of a kind items.
Take care
Rob
that wood is semi rotten. that is why your getting the pullout.
that wood would have probably been easier to turn if it had been stabilized. just my opinion. :D
Bob Wags
Absolutely
At the time I knew nothing about stabilizing, but funnily enough, I just started stabilizing my own wood
Cheers
Rob
Good video, but it's kinda of hard to hear you over the music at times. It's a shame because I really want to hear everything you have to say. Thanks for the video anyhow, and keep up the good work!
J Lang
Thank you, and I appreciate your comments, this was an early video and there are lots of learning curves when it comes to editing a video and presenting.
I didn't think anyone would want to hear what I have to say lol 😀.
I try to keep the talking to a minimum
Take care
Rob
Woodslee Summercraft
I'm new to wood turning and I find the commentary very informative!
Keep up the good work!
J Lang
Thank you for watching 😊
колечко сделать не получилось!Работа на троечку!
Sorry I don’t understand, but thanks for watching
I have a question for you : is your wood lathe a mastercraft? If its yes....ill have other questions for you ;) i hope youll be able to answer me???!!!!
hi yes the lathe in this video is a mastercraft, although i don't own this lathe anymore, what is your question.
Rob
I own a mastercraft and im not able to have any mandrin.... do you know if its possible to buy one???? And where???? Someone told me that is out of stock ( discontinue)
Thanks for answering!!!
Véronique Jolicoeur
Please explain ' mandrin ' I am not familiar. My current lathe is made by king Canada, and all parts are the same as the mastercraft lathe, check out this site for parts and service
I had to replace the lovejoy pulleys on my mastercraft lathe and the variable speed arm, not too expensive.
Find a retailer that deals with king Canada, I hope this info helps,
www.kingcanada.com/detail/14-x-43-variable-speed-wood-lathe-with-digital-readout/852
If you want to email me more info, photos or questions I'd be happy to help, maybe I can get the parts you are looking for.
Rob@woodsleesummercraft.ca
Thank you very much and sorry for my english:) bye mandrin i mean the jaw who allows to turn bowls or cups like you like the ONEWAY stronghold.....
Thank you again
check out www.leevalley.com/us/Wood/page.aspx?cat=1,330&p=69091
At parts, the music was too loud and made it hard to hear you.
Katzztar
Thanks for watching
I apologize for the volume of the music
Take care
Rob
I how to fry a salmon
Rob I don't know what you mean
Nice work. Lose the awful music. though!
Thanks, I try to mix up the music, can't please everyone all the time 😉
Tough bit of wood to finish
Take care
Rob
Toby Barker really
Robert Laddusaw yes really
Woodslee Summercraft yes it looked like it. great video thanks