I think the material used for the piping is slightly thicker to keep it better insulated from the engines heat as the air is traveling through it. Keeping the air colder. HOWEVER, that can easily be solved by heat wrapping the cheaper ebay intake tube. You're also paying for a more exact fit from the more expensive brand. I've always had to have slightly modify the ebay intake tubing to fit them properly but again it's not worth an extra 200 dollars for something I can do with a few hand tools and elbow grease.
I have the exact same ebay cai on my silverado and I ditched the filter it came with and installed a k&n filter on the ebay intake....glad I seen this...your video validated my suspicion that this was the best set up for the cost. It's worked well for my truck.
Deleting my clutch fan and switching to electric fans made a bigger difference than the intake did....a cold air intake with k&n filter, a set of long tube headers, ported throttle body and electric fan swap and all the rpm/speed limiters and torque management removed make a pretty incredible difference. Anyone who does these things will be quite happy.....really happy if you put a proper tune on it with optimized timing, maf, VE tables and power enrichment. My 4.8/nv3500 rcsb when from losing to my brothers 5.3/4l60 rcsb to beating him by a truck length after the above mentioned mods....his truck is stock except for a k&n filter in the stock air box and deleted cats.
Thanks for the video, very informative. One thing that should be mentioned (and has been mentioned in comments) is the CARB-EO requirements in California (and other states). That's part of the crazy high price of the K&N kits. They have went through California's STUPID process of getting CARB approved. So, while you can use the ebay kit with a K&N filter to save a bunch of $$, when it comes time to get your Truck Smogged, it WILL NOT PASS. This is because there are 2 steps to the Smog inspection in California. 1 is the emissions test itself. The 2nd step is a visual check. If they don't the CARB-EO sticker (with serial number etc), you will fail. I'm kinda bummed because I just learned all of this AFTER ordering an ebay kit. Glad I haven't installed it yet. I'll probably just end up leaving the stock intake on the truck and getting a drop-in K&N filter.
I had the carb sticker. Idiots didn't know how to read number. Got me flagged in state computer. Take it off, put your stock on for smog inspection, then switch it back.
I cut & installed a swimming pool noodle onto the heat shield where there were air gaps that used to allow too much hot air to get around the heat shield.
daniel Diaz sir u just prove a good point u sir a smart guy I know k&n cold air intakes are expensive but for average joes who don't have the money to spend buying a k&n and rather buying eBay cold air intakes and do a few mods to get it fit right to me personally saves money I guess the satisfaction that brings of buying a cheap cold air intake and wrapping in thermotech high heat tape and building fabricating a heat shield and spending time getting done right is worth and know u did it it brings satisfaction I don't think a k&n CAI ready to bolt is the same as modifying one your self it's priceless I speak for personal experience!!!
Picked up a $48 dollar ebay CAI and couldn't be happier. Made a bit of difference nothing special but sure sounds good and the build quality wasn't actually that bad. Might go with a better filter though in the future
Did the check engine light come on? If so how did you fix or prevent that from happening? I just got a 2003 avalanche Z71 with low miles. An absolute gem. And I'm looking to do some upgrades to it.
Good review I'm ordering a ebay kit for my 5.7L Hemi all I'm doing is the same thing as you you don't need to spend big money for little proformence an sound
I have a 06 Hemi 300c with a Hypertech 93 tuner , full exhaust , and chrome intakes cold air with the big filter it came with .. it woke it up big time . You have to have supporting mods to benefit .. the green high flow filter is just as good or better than the K@N .. either way you can’t go wrong ...use header wrap on the aluminum tube to help heat transfer .
What brand cheaper cold air kit do u like best now is the new burn out truck have the same intake kit as the cat eye. So.... What brand cold air kit do u buy? I was looking at black horse racing brand
Iv used both brand name cold air intakes and cheap. The cheap long as it has a good heat shield is as good as anything. Even if ur worried about the filter not being best of quality. U can always buy a better filter like a K&N my opinion is spectra is just as good half the price. Spectra has great cold air intake system for reasonable price.
what about like how ebay kits have just a wall for heat shield which engine heat can get into but sometimes more expensive intakes have boxes designed for colder air
Bowtieguy love your videos. Do you think i should leave the air box plate on if im driving in 4 seasons of weather up here in the north country? Plate or no plate?
Hey. Thanks for this video is know its old but I've been debating putting on a COI on my purposely stock kept 99 Honda Prelude. I ended up buying g a $60 black one from eBay & a $35 K&N filter. You saved me at least $150 or more!
I bet the tube doesnt get much hotter than the plastic one due to the fact aluminum dissipates heat very quickly, then on the other hand since you have access to both just take some readings with a temp gun for shits & grins but i dont think theres going to be a huge difference either way, also why is your filter squished it is to long for the set up? i might give this a looksy myself👍
I got 2017 Chevy Silverado crewcab midnight ed crew cab Z71 LTZ with 4.10 gears straight pipe no cats open headers x pipe supercharger tune 12 inch bulletproof lift on 37x15.50R26x18 on Nittos mts. Thing sounds sexy i going put clips up.
I have a cold air intake and a K&N HIGH PERFORMANCE AIR FILTER for my 2002 gmc envoy it’s FUCKING INSANE💯🔥 so much more power get up and go the in-line 4.2 V-6 it’s fuckin BAD!! No one thinks my suv has that power until I hit that greenlight on the blvd!! CHEVY GMC ALL DAY BABY💯
Great video man, I just put on an eBay CAI and I was tryna figure out if there was a difference and I was thinking the same thing, couldn’t you just add the K&N filter to the system lol!
www.ebay.com/itm/COLD-AIR-INTAKE-HEAT-SHIELD-RED-FOR-99-06-Silverado-1500-4-8L-5-3L-6-0L-V8-US/362457139250 and then go to your local parts store and buy a 4" K&N filter.
@@humanbeing3768 While you don't have to tune it after install, BUT even a stock setup benefits from a tune. My 2000 Sierra 5.3L was off quite a bit when i decided to tune the stock setup.
Are you really paying for if you buy k&n is The sticker that they provide when they send you the kit which means you can pass smog in certain states that have smog regulations like California where I stay that's what the difference is when you're spending the bigger buck if you buy the eBay kit you're going to have to swap out your aftermarket air intake kit and put back in your stock intake so you can pass smog inspections
Great video man, can you or anybody in the comments give me a part number on the k&n air filter I bought a cold air intake off eBay but I want to order the k&n air filter but I can’t find it. Thanks I’m advance!
Ayee Lmao I work for a company that sells auto finishes to body shops and commercial accounts. We mix factory colors for smaller shops so the paint is perfect factory match in PPGs DBC Deltron paint.
So there actually is a difference in every brands cold air intakes. I’m not too familiar with the intakes for ls engines. But coyote engines I do know quite a bit. And have tested and talked to the makers of different brands. So here me out... Okay so, JLT and PMAS are pretty big companies that makes some of the best cold air intakes for the 5.0 coyote engines. They use an S&B filter. Their intake tubes/ducts are bigger than stock. They have flow tested their intake tubes for the best air flow. It’s not simply air going into the tube. You have to be able to design the intake tube to make the air swirl and twist. There’s actually machines that test the way the air flows through the tube. These companies that make the cold air intakes the way they do have made it to where their intakes are far superior to other companies like k&n. Now, S&B hands down makes the best filter. You can take that how you want. But it’s true. Companies have taken k&n filters and tested them. It’s proven that their filter let very tiny dirt/dust particles through their filters. Therefore created not so clean air into your engine. Don’t even get me started on their oil filters. Getting back to the intake tubes. K&n have been proven to actually have smaller intake tubes on certain model vehicles. The 5.0 coyote being an example. I have talked to Jay, creator of JLT intakes, to create a filter for the ls engines because I actually plan to purchase a Silverado in the near future. If he decides to create one, it will be a game changer. Most cold air intakes for these trucks might add 5-10 hp with a tune. But with JLT, you can expect up to 20-25 hp with a tune. THATS how you can tell a great cold air intake company over a not so great cold air intake company.
Tanner B bullshit. K&N spends millions in engineering and R&D to design their systems. These other clowns are backyard mechanics playing the guessing game...they really don’t know what the fuck they’re doing. They don’t understand fluid dynamics or how to optimize flows...in other words, they’re snake oil salesmen using buzzwords that they don’t understand.
I installed one of those Ebay intakes on my 03 Sierra now I'm getting P0171 and P0174 codes how can I fix this or should I just swap back to my stock air box?
clear the codes if your scanner can clear them, and disconnect the battery for awhile, then drive it and check again if your still getting the same codes then I dunno what to tell ya get a tune or sum
1. Top of that air box isn't sealed against the hood, hence it WILL suck warm engine bay air. 2. Despite what K&N claims, filter oil screws map sensors and DO allow fine dust to pass by. Had to give vid a thumbs down.
You don't get any more power,better gas milage etc! It's just a gimmick,don't waste your money,if you think your car seems better,it's all in your head because you expect it to be better.total waste of money!!
I think the material used for the piping is slightly thicker to keep it better insulated from the engines heat as the air is traveling through it. Keeping the air colder. HOWEVER, that can easily be solved by heat wrapping the cheaper ebay intake tube. You're also paying for a more exact fit from the more expensive brand. I've always had to have slightly modify the ebay intake tubing to fit them properly but again it's not worth an extra 200 dollars for something I can do with a few hand tools and elbow grease.
at full throttle air travels so fast, it isn't heated up by the intake
Right on point I just got a cheap Amazon intake and I’m wrapping it to protect it from the heat
@@obsofhouston4111 what are you wrapping it with?
Thanks man Ebay intake+K&N= power Money saver 👍
Where can I get the K&n filter that fits a 4in tubing
jjuarez274 at any auto parts store that sells K&n filters
@@jjuarez274 The K&n is 6 inch at filter not 4inch BIG difference
Amen brother, my son and I built our own for my 06' Silverado 5.3 and his 99' Durango 5.2 and they work perfectly ! They cost us a whole lot less !
I have the exact same ebay cai on my silverado and I ditched the filter it came with and installed a k&n filter on the ebay intake....glad I seen this...your video validated my suspicion that this was the best set up for the cost. It's worked well for my truck.
Deleting my clutch fan and switching to electric fans made a bigger difference than the intake did....a cold air intake with k&n filter, a set of long tube headers, ported throttle body and electric fan swap and all the rpm/speed limiters and torque management removed make a pretty incredible difference. Anyone who does these things will be quite happy.....really happy if you put a proper tune on it with optimized timing, maf, VE tables and power enrichment. My 4.8/nv3500 rcsb when from losing to my brothers 5.3/4l60 rcsb to beating him by a truck length after the above mentioned mods....his truck is stock except for a k&n filter in the stock air box and deleted cats.
I'm saving $200 with a ebay intake. K&n has to pay for there insane marketing.
Thnx brother for a great and informative video! Wish ida seen it a week ago !!!
Thanks for the video, very informative. One thing that should be mentioned (and has been mentioned in comments) is the CARB-EO requirements in California (and other states). That's part of the crazy high price of the K&N kits. They have went through California's STUPID process of getting CARB approved. So, while you can use the ebay kit with a K&N filter to save a bunch of $$, when it comes time to get your Truck Smogged, it WILL NOT PASS. This is because there are 2 steps to the Smog inspection in California. 1 is the emissions test itself. The 2nd step is a visual check. If they don't the CARB-EO sticker (with serial number etc), you will fail. I'm kinda bummed because I just learned all of this AFTER ordering an ebay kit. Glad I haven't installed it yet. I'll probably just end up leaving the stock intake on the truck and getting a drop-in K&N filter.
I had the carb sticker. Idiots didn't know how to read number. Got me flagged in state computer. Take it off, put your stock on for smog inspection, then switch it back.
@@MikeLaRock88 oh its gets that easy after a a fee tries damn
so glad to see you back brotha. just found you and watched every one of your videos
Caleb L. Really appreciate it man glad to be putting more content out for you guys.
I cut & installed a swimming pool noodle onto the heat shield where there were air gaps that used to allow too much hot air to get around the heat shield.
Thanks man you answerd my question am going 60 dollar and wit a k&n filter
That the point is the air filter the real diference
daniel Diaz sir u just prove a good point u sir a smart guy I know k&n cold air intakes are expensive but for average joes who don't have the money to spend buying a k&n and rather buying eBay cold air intakes and do a few mods to get it fit right to me personally saves money I guess the satisfaction that brings of buying a cheap cold air intake and wrapping in thermotech high heat tape and building fabricating a heat shield and spending time getting done right is worth and know u did it it brings satisfaction I don't think a k&n CAI ready to bolt is the same as modifying one your self it's priceless I speak for personal experience!!!
Yeah that’s like his whole point did u just want to say you have truck and you worked on it? Lol
Picked up a $48 dollar ebay CAI and couldn't be happier. Made a bit of difference nothing special but sure sounds good and the build quality wasn't actually that bad. Might go with a better filter though in the future
yeah that’s what i heard. you gotta replace the filter with a k&n one once u get the kit
Did the check engine light come on? If so how did you fix or prevent that from happening?
I just got a 2003 avalanche Z71 with low miles. An absolute gem. And I'm looking to do some upgrades to it.
How did you use the k&n filter with the eBay intake?
Great video !! Keep up the great work
After all the upgrades you’ve made how much more horse you think you’re making ?
Bro, fuck yea, this just helped me decide what i am going to do for my 5.7 tbi 95 z71
Answered my question about difference about cheap and pricey... Thanx for Making time for video
Rican-787 Castillo thanks for watching
Does wrapping the tube with exhaust heat wrapp help anything?
All I needed to know thank you bud, just saved me like $300
Good review I'm ordering a ebay kit for my 5.7L Hemi all I'm doing is the same thing as you you don't need to spend big money for little proformence an sound
Would you say the same for a diesel Intake ? I honestly think there is no difference between a 350dollar one and 80dollar one
I have a 06 Hemi 300c with a Hypertech 93 tuner , full exhaust , and chrome intakes cold air with the big filter it came with .. it woke it up big time . You have to have supporting mods to benefit .. the green high flow filter is just as good or better than the K@N .. either way you can’t go wrong ...use header wrap on the aluminum tube to help heat transfer .
Thanks man i was wondering if i should order the ebay one for my 99 ✌️
What brand cheaper cold air kit do u like best now is the new burn out truck have the same intake kit as the cat eye. So.... What brand cold air kit do u buy? I was looking at black horse racing brand
I just ordered an Ebay intake for my 03 Sierra what model K&N filter is that?
I wonder if insulatingthe tube with refletix would be a cheap way to drop the air temp a few degrees
thats what im planning to do ! i bought ebay tube set and im gonna buy a quality filter for the end ! great video man
Does the mass flow air sensor go on with ease?
thnx bro. for the info. I was scratching my head wondering what is the difference.
What k&n filter did you use
Iv used both brand name cold air intakes and cheap. The cheap long as it has a good heat shield is as good as anything. Even if ur worried about the filter not being best of quality. U can always buy a better filter like a K&N my opinion is spectra is just as good half the price. Spectra has great cold air intake system for reasonable price.
what about like how ebay kits have just a wall for heat shield which engine heat can get into but sometimes more expensive intakes have boxes designed for colder air
thanks exactly what i wanted to know
What's the part number on the K&N filter?
Bowtieguy love your videos. Do you think i should leave the air box plate on if im driving in 4 seasons of weather up here in the north country? Plate or no plate?
Plate
Hey. Thanks for this video is know its old but I've been debating putting on a COI on my purposely stock kept 99 Honda Prelude. I ended up buying g a $60 black one from eBay & a $35 K&N filter. You saved me at least $150 or more!
Do you have a part number for the filter?
I bet the tube doesnt get much hotter than the plastic one due to the fact aluminum dissipates heat very quickly, then on the other hand since you have access to both just take some readings with a temp gun for shits & grins but i dont think theres going to be a huge difference either way, also why is your filter squished it is to long for the set up? i might give this a looksy myself👍
U put the stock mass air flow sensor on the intake
Exactly what i wanted to know. Thanks man.
Really helpful
The metal will heat up and hold the heat more than the k&n. Now honestly probally wont be more than a couple horsepower difference if any.
I did the same. There boots and clamps suck. I ordered some nice new ones looks great
I bought one off ebay the only problem i had was with the filter it was crafted wrong.
I got 2017 Chevy Silverado crewcab midnight ed crew cab Z71 LTZ with 4.10 gears straight pipe no cats open headers x pipe supercharger tune 12 inch bulletproof lift on 37x15.50R26x18 on Nittos mts. Thing sounds sexy i going put clips up.
Varedz post video
What brand is the ebay kit?
Did it help at all with MPG's?
Super late reply but put a cat back system on your truck when you upgrade you intake and you will notice an nice increase in mpg,hp and torque
Do you have a link for the kit or something
get the volent kit, the air filter is actually inside a box and don't duck in engine heat
I have a cold air intake and a K&N HIGH PERFORMANCE AIR FILTER for my 2002 gmc envoy it’s FUCKING INSANE💯🔥 so much more power get up and go the in-line 4.2 V-6 it’s fuckin BAD!! No one thinks my suv has that power until I hit that greenlight on the blvd!! CHEVY GMC ALL DAY BABY💯
Where’d you get the filter
What where your mpg gains?
Where did u order yours from
can you post A link to the eBay tube? thanks, enjoy your videos!
Just go on ebay motors and type in cold air intake whole kits around $60
Did you notice a difference in horsepower?
they cost more just because the K&N are carb approved.
Spectre is carb approved in every state. I live in Comiefornia and it passes here.
Doesn’t matter, my truck doesn’t have a carb, it’s fuel injected.
What kind of fan did you use in your truck
Newer video on my channel has all the info on the e fans
Is this a 2500? Or 1500? Sexy truck btw
So really a 108dollar intake
k&n’s make is a nice sound too
Can i get a link to the k&n cold air intake
Great video man, I just put on an eBay CAI and I was tryna figure out if there was a difference and I was thinking the same thing, couldn’t you just add the K&N filter to the system lol!
how often should you swap out the filter?
you don't, use the k&n kit to clean it
Is this 5.3 afm lmg motor
Could you please provide us with the link of where you bought everything from?
www.ebay.com/itm/COLD-AIR-INTAKE-HEAT-SHIELD-RED-FOR-99-06-Silverado-1500-4-8L-5-3L-6-0L-V8-US/362457139250 and then go to your local parts store and buy a 4" K&N filter.
👍👍🏁🏁
Did you have to tune it after the intake install
No
@@humanbeing3768 While you don't have to tune it after install, BUT even a stock setup benefits from a tune. My 2000 Sierra 5.3L was off quite a bit when i decided to tune the stock setup.
did you added the senor of the intake back as well or left it out?
Joliva123 you have to put the MAF back or the vehicle won’t run.
bowtieguy97 thanks!!! just got my self a Silverado 5.3 going to watch all your videos keep it up !!!
Joliva123 thanks man appreciate it
It will run, but not very well
Does it have a spot for the MAF
Where can I buy the k&n filter that will fit a 4inch tubing
Amazon. RG-1001RD
K&N Clamp-on Round Tapered Universal Air Filter RE-0870 is the one he used
K&N owns Spectre
Are you really paying for if you buy k&n is The sticker that they provide when they send you the kit which means you can pass smog in certain states that have smog regulations like California where I stay that's what the difference is when you're spending the bigger buck if you buy the eBay kit you're going to have to swap out your aftermarket air intake kit and put back in your stock intake so you can pass smog inspections
So that’s not a K&N it’s and eBay one correct just asking cuz I see K&N stickers on it?
K&N filter, eBay tube
Great video man, can you or anybody in the comments give me a part number on the k&n air filter I bought a cold air intake off eBay but I want to order the k&n air filter but I can’t find it. Thanks I’m advance!
RG-1001RD
K&N Clamp-on Round Tapered Universal Air Filter RE-0870 EASY INSTALLATION
Can you share a link to that intake.
K&N Clamp-on Round Tapered Universal Air Filter RE-0870 EASY INSTALLATION
The K&n is 6 inch at filter not 4inch BIG difference
Can I get a link to buy this cold air intake?
www.ebay.com/itm/COLD-AIR-INTAKE-HEAT-SHIELD-RED-FOR-99-06-Silverado-1500-4-8L-5-3L-6-0L-V8-US/362457139250
You have a part number for the filter or a link
You can get the filter it’s self at any auto parts store or Walmart
RE-0870
K&N Clamp-on Round Tapered Universal Air Filter RE-0870 is the one he used
Can you really tell a difference between the stock air filter and this one?
Ayee Lmao power wise, I notice better response but I mainly saw better fuel economy. As far as pulling it didn't seem to help much.
bowtieguy97 think about putting a eBay one on my 03 z71. Another question. How did You find the exact color of your truck to color match?
Ayee Lmao I work for a company that sells auto finishes to body shops and commercial accounts. We mix factory colors for smaller shops so the paint is perfect factory match in PPGs DBC Deltron paint.
bowtieguy97 oh ok. Ive been trying to find a match for mine for months
+bowtieguy97 get a blackbear mail order tune man.. thank me later
Where did you find the $65 kit I want one
Vintage 2-Stroke eBay
your k & n filter looks too gray and dry. spray the pink oil on it.
So there actually is a difference in every brands cold air intakes.
I’m not too familiar with the intakes for ls engines. But coyote engines I do know quite a bit. And have tested and talked to the makers of different brands. So here me out...
Okay so, JLT and PMAS are pretty big companies that makes some of the best cold air intakes for the 5.0 coyote engines. They use an S&B filter. Their intake tubes/ducts are bigger than stock. They have flow tested their intake tubes for the best air flow. It’s not simply air going into the tube.
You have to be able to design the intake tube to make the air swirl and twist. There’s actually machines that test the way the air flows through the tube.
These companies that make the cold air intakes the way they do have made it to where their intakes are far superior to other companies like k&n.
Now, S&B hands down makes the best filter. You can take that how you want. But it’s true. Companies have taken k&n filters and tested them. It’s proven that their filter let very tiny dirt/dust particles through their filters. Therefore created not so clean air into your engine. Don’t even get me started on their oil filters.
Getting back to the intake tubes. K&n have been proven to actually have smaller intake tubes on certain model vehicles. The 5.0 coyote being an example.
I have talked to Jay, creator of JLT intakes, to create a filter for the ls engines because I actually plan to purchase a Silverado in the near future. If he decides to create one, it will be a game changer.
Most cold air intakes for these trucks might add 5-10 hp with a tune. But with JLT, you can expect up to 20-25 hp with a tune.
THATS how you can tell a great cold air intake company over a not so great cold air intake company.
Tanner B bullshit. K&N spends millions in engineering and R&D to design their systems. These other clowns are backyard mechanics playing the guessing game...they really don’t know what the fuck they’re doing. They don’t understand fluid dynamics or how to optimize flows...in other words, they’re snake oil salesmen using buzzwords that they don’t understand.
I rather pay for quality over saving money
Smh
The K&N guys are the only ones voting down
I installed one of those Ebay intakes on my 03 Sierra now I'm getting P0171 and P0174 codes how can I fix this or should I just swap back to my stock air box?
clear the codes if your scanner can clear them, and disconnect the battery for awhile, then drive it and check again if your still getting the same codes then I dunno what to tell ya get a tune or sum
@@chrishansen7004 I have a scanner and I'll do that.
Let us know if that fix the issue
Someone finally said it. Lol
do you have an instagram for your truck?
TDUB 23 yes @austin04_z71
1. Top of that air box isn't sealed against the hood, hence it WILL suck warm engine bay air. 2. Despite what K&N claims, filter oil screws map sensors and DO allow fine dust to pass by. Had to give vid a thumbs down.
Watch project farm. K&n filters are junk!! Unless you want your engine to swallow a bunch of dirt etc.
You don't get any more power,better gas milage etc! It's just a gimmick,don't waste your money,if you think your car seems better,it's all in your head because you expect it to be better.total waste of money!!
rich wilsey when accelerating between 30-60 I can definitely feel a difference so what you mean? 🤷🏼♂️
Dyno tests prove how wrong (and stupid) you are, lol
You don’t understand cares
Dyno dont lie. Power it gained