Thanks to you guys, I got my new career in Advanced Composite bonding materials, and now build helicopter components and parts. The stuff I learned from you guys got me through the rigorous interview process! Now I work with carbon fiber, kevlar, and all sorts of materials regularly! Can't wait to start my own builds.
@@zero_to_1000 how aren’t they doing it right? Because they didn’t vacuum epoxy it? People who say others “are doing it wrong” because they don’t do things like them, are in fact, doing it wrong!
@@streetassasinGSR96 introducing more air into the epoxy reduces structural integrity. It's not a matter of vacuuming, or curing, the techniques he's using to apply resin aren't exactly conducive to making a sounds part. My point is that it looks like it works great for making something that looks nice but that wouldn't pass QC in a real aerospace manufacturing facility.
By far my favourite automotive bases TH-cam channel! Xaviers filming and editing is unparalleled, and Tim’s explanations and creations are truly inspiring. Keep the videos coming guys, can’t get enough!
bros. just wanna say thank you.. theres a lot of oldschool JDM in my country.. breaks my heart seeing them rot to rust to the point of no saving. with people looking at them as some useless piece of junk.. and even when they are fixed and pristine, people here just dont see the value in 1960-70's JDM... some day soon, id have enough money to restore some, they way you did them. thanks for the hope. street bandito for life
I heard about some guys who make "chill automotive videos (apparently) like I do" so I had to check you guys out and I'm not disappointed superb work and a great video. respect from France
Found this channel last night looking up carbon stuff. Watched the 350z roof video. But now i gotta binge watch everything. Got some busy days ahead of me lol.
I've done a lot a drywall, and some stucco too. As I het more into working on vehicles and thinking about body work I see how similar it all is. Body work is like drywall, but on curves. This is a very interesting video.
Feeling like a celebrity now nbd haha thanks for the responses I'm stoked to see Connie finished your guy's channels coming together feeling like the avengers
This was a fascinating watch. I have a 1992 JDM Celica GT-Four that I'm eventually looking to kit out with carbon for weight reduction. I assume that it's much easier to do with the roof skin already manufactured.
This is my first video of yours 😄 Now I have a feeling that I will be binge watching your other ones haha. I've definitely subscribed to see the next ones you put out. Hey a tip for you though. Get yourself a topside creeper. I didn't know I needed one until I used one. It would be perfect for the kind of stuff you guys do.
Like the amount of content you guys got on custom fab composites. I'm getting into composites for motorcycles and side stuff. But will be diving deep into it by making monocoque fuel cell/tail section/subframe units, swingarms, possible hybrid titanium carbon frame, yokes, engine covers, etc. At 11:22, what is the "pizza cutter" tool you're using? I that from Fibreglast as well? I've got a pair of shears for kevlar, which are nice. But that cutter looks like it makes long cuts and rounded cuts a breeze.
“Dry carbon” generally refers to pre-preg where you don’t add any resin besides what’s already infused in the material. Kind of a misleading term often misused
Tim here knows his shit... that why he called the cured “dry” carbon with no top coat “dry carbon”. It’s noobs who call pre-preg “dry”. The boys above a clearly experts on the topic.
You are being hilarious @stick004 Take it from someone who has worked with cfrp prototyping and manufacturing in robotics: “Dry” refers to the finished product that is constructed using pre-preg. The pre-preg isn’t “dry carbon”, the resulting product is called dry carbon * insert name of part * in marketing terms. It is used to differentiate between high quality parts that are fabricated in autoclave to be as identical as possible in strength and weight to the gram, which is important in ultra high speed delta robotics, and the wet lay or resin infused parts that are often manufactured for show purposes but are overly “wet” with resin.
would love to modify my S2000 hardtop. do you have any suggestions or tips to how to make a model what materials to use how to reinforce the place where i have to put the latches
I used these guys techniques to do my car in carbon fiber. The roof is fine with just 3 layers as it is fully supported on all 4 edges and is 3M panel bonded in place - never moves. A hood is a different story because it needs to only attach at the hinges (bolt holes) and opens. I just made the same 3 layers and used quik latches on all 4 corners and it does alright because it's a racecar. However if you wanted OEM usability you'd have to make the outer skin and the inner frame and bond them together. Here is a good video: th-cam.com/video/UgKvDw1E60E/w-d-xo.html
By laying the panel over the original roof skin wouldn't it make it slightly over sized to the panel it's replacing. Is it not enough to cause concern? I only ask bc I usually see a mold made and then the part made from the mold. This seems more efficient but was curious if the result is less ideal
I’m really interested in what your doing. Terrific videos. I have a 3rd gen camaro with a metal hood and it has a 4 inch cowel hood can I do this to it
old video but.... im getting a 77 celica that the roof skin has been removed... curious if yall made a mold of this and could you do one in fiber glass. i checked the website but i didnt see anything. normally id try it myself but i dont have a roof to do it this way lol.
The purple 3m non abrasive plastic sanding disk takes it of lol What are you going to replace it with?? My painters just bolted the guards back on after painting lol
So how do u make a a pillar and c pillar from carbonfiber and tie it into the roof??? I am wanting to do this all strusturable parts to my gtr in full dry carbon fiber... thanks
I know alot of epoxy resins heat up when they cure. Does that resin eat away at the plastic you have wrapped on everything? Or does it cure at a low heat?
when you take the roof off are you going to take the cross brace out and make a carbon fibre one to match the underside of the roof would look epic better than the steel brace cheers from down under
quick question I plan on doing a carbon Roof the same as you've done on Dave's Celica on my mk2 golf. What quantity of carbon and resin would I need to order to do 3 sheets of carbon? Don't mind paying to make it right but also wouldn't want to over order!
any plans to make more of the headlights off the Z? love them so much and would love to have a set myself for rally fogs, plus they would probably be universal for anything with H4 headlights
If you were leaving the exterior of that roof as carbon, would you still use all these same steps (being more careful with the final layer’s placement) and then just use your clear/matte clear, or would you have prepped this a little bit differently? Awesome work as usual guys.
Yeah I would basically do it the same, once you cut down the final layer of resin with 80 grit, I’d lay down another layer of resin, then sand that and clear coat it
Please tell me you guys are following the Opera Performance channel on TH-cam. They're adding carbon fiber directly to key parts of the chassis for added stiffness and minimal weight gain. Dope!
I’d wrap that centre rail in carbon before fixing the roof panel. Tip put some fold out extensions on the front of your cutting bench so you can put a rod through the carbon rolls and roll out the carbon and cut it without climbing on the bench. Also get some pvc pipe roll up the large lay ups on it so you can roll them out on the job. If you make up a frame on wheels to hold the pipe you can work large jobs on your own. S glass is stronger than carbon and Kevlar especially under impact conditions it doesn’t shatter as readily. If you use two layers of S glass in three of carbon the part will be stronger and lighter than a seven layer carbon part. Incase Ive mixed things up S glass is the same stuff as the transparent aluminium I believe and E glass is glass fibre
@@StreetBandito Awesome, I'm confused as what resin I should use, I've been carbon skinning dash trim parts for a while and I just use generic epoxy resin off of ebay but seeing as this is structural what sort of resin should I go with? I've seen infusion resins and laminating resins etc... Also I'm in the UK so might not be able to get the stuff you use
@@StreetBandito And finally how long do you leave between laying on the next layer of carbon? Is it straight away or do you need to let it gas off/cure between layers?
Your carbon fab videos are amazing... been watching for a while... I own several toys, also paint.... will love to make several body panels for my first gen Chevy Monte Carlo... front end and bumpers .... keep going back to review the process.... besides the wax you guys apply what is the first material applied before the first layer of carbon and what carbon specifications you recommend 2x or 3? There’s a lot variety. 3 layers should be enough? When do you start trimming the excess fabric once you lay the epoxy like on the roof of the Celica?
It would be very hard to do this on my GTi-R, part of my roof panel extends about 6” down the C pillar and from the factory it is brazed to the quarter panel, the joint is flush from panel to panel. Obviously you couldn’t braze carbon to steel, so it would have to overlap the quarter a bit and be bonded to the steel and then the transition would have to be filled, and then a small portion of the C pillar carbon would have to be painted the body color, up to what LOOKS like the roof line for it to look right
Cobra kai is a continuation of the original movies. They even use the same actors for Daniel and Johnny. The carbon fiber work is very cool im learning alot from your videos. Im going to make my own carbon fiber panels now.
I think the roll cage with a carbon roof question was more aimed at what happens in a rollover situation with a carbon roof and no cage?🤔 maybe not tho
The point remains... it should be as strong or stronger than the steel panel, but that steel panel is just a skin anyway. It's not actually _doing_ anything (structurally). Similar to this: bit.ly/30WHZcg
For removing the glue on the fenders, I wonder if dry ice would help make it brittle and easy to remove. I have seen people use that technique to remove factory floor sound deadening.......Hmmmmm?
If the laminate is formed on top of the existing roof, making it 3-4 layers higher, couldn’t the same be done with all the panels, making the need to remove panels moot?
❓I've got a pretty detailed question... Hypothetically if I were to make a f1 monocoque what would you think would be good for layers? I was thinking: - 4layers of 12k carbon 2x2 twill -1layer of kevlar (galvanic corrosion) -1/2" aluminum honeycomb -1layer of kevlar (galvanic corrosion) -4 layers of 12k carbon 2x2 twill
The thing with monocoque frames is that they are not uniform in thickness, so different weaves and weights go in specific areas. They also use special honeycomb foam layers to bulk up structural areas vs aluminum for ultimate weight savings while retaining the stiff properties of carbon. If one were to reproduce a one-off, you'd fare fairly well in laying in opposing layers of S-Glass and carbon, as kevlar really has no structural properties and is used for abrasion resistance in areas like the engine compartment and underside of the main tub for crash protection.
On top of what the other person said. twill is actually one of the least used carbon fabrics used in structural components. unidirectional carbon will have better properties but only in one direction. So you will often see the top layer will be twill for looks and under that will be layers of Unidirectional cloth alternating directions to give strength to the structure in the directions that matter and less reinforcement where they don't need it. the weaves give mediocre strength in every direction. something like a F1 tub will e primarily uni fabric
Thanks to you guys, I got my new career in Advanced Composite bonding materials, and now build helicopter components and parts. The stuff I learned from you guys got me through the rigorous interview process! Now I work with carbon fiber, kevlar, and all sorts of materials regularly! Can't wait to start my own builds.
Secondhand Speed you got lucky then because these dudes aren’t doing it right...
@@zero_to_1000 how aren’t they doing it right? Because they didn’t vacuum epoxy it? People who say others “are doing it wrong” because they don’t do things like them, are in fact, doing it wrong!
@@streetassasinGSR96 introducing more air into the epoxy reduces structural integrity. It's not a matter of vacuuming, or curing, the techniques he's using to apply resin aren't exactly conducive to making a sounds part. My point is that it looks like it works great for making something that looks nice but that wouldn't pass QC in a real aerospace manufacturing facility.
@@zero_to_1000 it’s a very different process in aerospace... they use prepreg carbon fiber and an autoclave to cure it
@@aaroneaton7412 one of many processes. But yes I know.
Nice saves on the color reveal, Xavier!
You know had to have little fun with it because lord knows tim was spewing out the color 😂
I hope it's Metallic blue
Every car should be metallic blue
Except maby my daily skoda
My dad bought it red and it shall stay red
So close haha
Connie is a lucky lady, getting all this special treatment. Keep up the good work, men!
Wait.... Speed academy's Connie?
@@krakdaus5442 lol, read the title
@@TeunS133N yeah I saw that lol I've been watching Connie being built since the beginning.. so damn awesome
Thanks buddy. More greatness to come 👍🏽
I dig how Xavier handles the videos but also reads up on questions and comments and mixes it back into the experience.
Appreciate it. Trying to figure out ways to engage the viewers more 👍🏽
Here from Speed Academy, but have just been binging your 240z vids
By far my favourite automotive bases TH-cam channel! Xaviers filming and editing is unparalleled, and Tim’s explanations and creations are truly inspiring. Keep the videos coming guys, can’t get enough!
bros. just wanna say thank you.. theres a lot of oldschool JDM in my country.. breaks my heart seeing them rot to rust to the point of no saving. with people looking at them as some useless piece of junk.. and even when they are fixed and pristine, people here just dont see the value in 1960-70's JDM... some day soon, id have enough money to restore some, they way you did them. thanks for the hope. street bandito for life
I heard about some guys who make "chill automotive videos (apparently) like I do" so I had to check you guys out and I'm not disappointed superb work and a great video. respect from France
Found this channel last night looking up carbon stuff. Watched the 350z roof video.
But now i gotta binge watch everything. Got some busy days ahead of me lol.
finally some celica content been waiting for some since Dave dropped it off at your shop. Need more in my life
I've done a lot a drywall, and some stucco too. As I het more into working on vehicles and thinking about body work I see how similar it all is. Body work is like drywall, but on curves. This is a very interesting video.
Can’t believe this channel is still! Great stuff guys 🤙
My very first ever video. Seemed like you felt me. Headed over to watch the 240Z video now.
Feeling like a celebrity now nbd haha thanks for the responses I'm stoked to see Connie finished your guy's channels coming together feeling like the avengers
Haha hell yea. We love engaging with the subs. Going to try do this more 🙌🏼.
Good vibes in this ep as always
Thanks to you guys I have a 2200 lb turbo'd, caged 2001 Impreza coupe.
Hey, thanks for answering my A and C pillar question :)
For sure! Had to swing it in last minute because I almost forgot lol.
This was a fascinating watch. I have a 1992 JDM Celica GT-Four that I'm eventually looking to kit out with carbon for weight reduction. I assume that it's much easier to do with the roof skin already manufactured.
This is my first video of yours 😄 Now I have a feeling that I will be binge watching your other ones haha. I've definitely subscribed to see the next ones you put out. Hey a tip for you though. Get yourself a topside creeper. I didn't know I needed one until I used one. It would be perfect for the kind of stuff you guys do.
True dry carbon is when you use pre-impregnated carbon fibre and use machined two piece moulds in a press. Huge tooling costs involved.
Not to mention most dry carbon is either autoclaved or pressed and they will be a quarter the weight of this method
These guys are awesome videos are so informative
First time viewer , subbed and now part of the noti gang
I was aware i was waiting for this episode you have to have a few common subs
Like the amount of content you guys got on custom fab composites. I'm getting into composites for motorcycles and side stuff. But will be diving deep into it by making monocoque fuel cell/tail section/subframe units, swingarms, possible hybrid titanium carbon frame, yokes, engine covers, etc. At 11:22, what is the "pizza cutter" tool you're using? I that from Fibreglast as well? I've got a pair of shears for kevlar, which are nice. But that cutter looks like it makes long cuts and rounded cuts a breeze.
I'm new to the channel. It appeared on my recommended videos
Love this channel, always on point.
Roughly how much resin is needed to do a roof skin, im about to order my supplies and I need to know how much epoxy to buy.
How do u connect a carbon roof to steel a and b posts on a a steel roof and quarters car
Cobra Kai is fun, cool throwback with some good twists
“Dry carbon” generally refers to pre-preg where you don’t add any resin besides what’s already infused in the material. Kind of a misleading term often misused
Only people who don’t do carbon work call pre-preg “dry carbon”. Actual professionals call them by the right terms.
@@stick004 i think the people who made dry carbon called it pre-preg
give a slack.. they are doing hand lamination with carbon fiber and epoxy...
Tim here knows his shit... that why he called the cured “dry” carbon with no top coat “dry carbon”. It’s noobs who call pre-preg “dry”. The boys above a clearly experts on the topic.
You are being hilarious @stick004 Take it from someone who has worked with cfrp prototyping and manufacturing in robotics: “Dry” refers to the finished product that is constructed using pre-preg. The pre-preg isn’t “dry carbon”, the resulting product is called dry carbon * insert name of part * in marketing terms.
It is used to differentiate between high quality parts that are fabricated in autoclave to be as identical as possible in strength and weight to the gram, which is important in ultra high speed delta robotics, and the wet lay or resin infused parts that are often manufactured for show purposes but are overly “wet” with resin.
Awesome! Keep up the DIY carbon fiber vids! 😁👍
Yup I'm new. Sent over from Speed academy.
would love to modify my S2000 hardtop. do you have any suggestions or tips to how to make a model what materials to use how to reinforce the place where i have to put the latches
So you don’t need a mold? how would this process compare to a hood vs a roof?
I used these guys techniques to do my car in carbon fiber. The roof is fine with just 3 layers as it is fully supported on all 4 edges and is 3M panel bonded in place - never moves. A hood is a different story because it needs to only attach at the hinges (bolt holes) and opens. I just made the same 3 layers and used quik latches on all 4 corners and it does alright because it's a racecar. However if you wanted OEM usability you'd have to make the outer skin and the inner frame and bond them together. Here is a good video: th-cam.com/video/UgKvDw1E60E/w-d-xo.html
By laying the panel over the original roof skin wouldn't it make it slightly over sized to the panel it's replacing. Is it not enough to cause concern? I only ask bc I usually see a mold made and then the part made from the mold. This seems more efficient but was curious if the result is less ideal
I’m really interested in what your doing. Terrific videos. I have a 3rd gen camaro with a metal hood and it has a 4 inch cowel hood can I do this to it
old video but.... im getting a 77 celica that the roof skin has been removed... curious if yall made a mold of this and could you do one in fiber glass. i checked the website but i didnt see anything. normally id try it myself but i dont have a roof to do it this way lol.
If you are doing a hood or trunk lid do you worry about the support frame on the bottom side?
The purple 3m non abrasive plastic sanding disk takes it of lol
What are you going to replace it with?? My painters just bolted the guards back on after painting lol
Are you going to remake the arch support in carbon fiber so it looks really good!
So how do u make a a pillar and c pillar from carbonfiber and tie it into the roof??? I am wanting to do this all strusturable parts to my gtr in full dry carbon fiber... thanks
Doesn't using the existing roof as a "mould" make the crabon roof bigger? Then how do you mitigate the oversized dimensions when installing it?
Yoo the Guinea Horn was going for it! 🤣 🔥🔥 content as always🤙🏿
Lmao bro if only you knew how many times we were saying it
9:31 There are a lot of Z members that are looking for that wheel well underliner, might be a good piece to do a fiberglass run of.
Z Fam 🙏
won't the pannel be oversized if you make ik on the car it self instead of in a mold?
If you wanted to lay a visible seam in the center to create a V (because your part is to wide) how would you even do that¿
have you guys ever tried dry ice for removing glue?
Nicely done lads!
Much appreciated!
I have a 2010 scion tc. A full glass roof. Basically 150 pounds above my head. I NEED THISS.....
Are you putting the next layer on when the one before is wet or just tacky?
hi, is it possible to carbon a roof with sunroof or moonroof?
Is there a carbon fiber kit big enough for a dash?
@b. b. thats better than buying everything separately for sure, thank you
What is used for the peel ply
how about 3d printing a squeegee that you could fill with the resin and it would dispense it as you go?
What do you guys do about Galvanic Corrosion between the Carbon Fiber and the steel?
How much would you quote to skin a car roof with carbon fiber? Approximate Parts and labor. Thanks you
I know alot of epoxy resins heat up when they cure.
Does that resin eat away at the plastic you have wrapped on everything?
Or does it cure at a low heat?
Correct It doesn’t melt anything we use.
I would be interested in a set of flares
Do you accept custom cf job? Thanks
I need to do this to my RX-3. Awesome job!
What type of resin is being used?
when you take the roof off are you going to take the cross brace out and make a carbon fibre one to match the underside of the roof would look epic better than the steel brace cheers from down under
Never thought Connie would get this kind of love!?!?
What do you think about making dirt bike body parts out of carbon fiber? Would it be flexible enough?
Thank you
Shane from ky.
quick question I plan on doing a carbon Roof the same as you've done on Dave's Celica on my mk2 golf. What quantity of carbon and resin would I need to order to do 3 sheets of carbon? Don't mind paying to make it right but also wouldn't want to over order!
any plans to make more of the headlights off the Z? love them so much and would love to have a set myself for rally fogs, plus they would probably be universal for anything with H4 headlights
If you were leaving the exterior of that roof as carbon, would you still use all these same steps (being more careful with the final layer’s placement) and then just use your clear/matte clear, or would you have prepped this a little bit differently?
Awesome work as usual guys.
Yeah I would basically do it the same, once you cut down the final layer of resin with 80 grit, I’d lay down another layer of resin, then sand that and clear coat it
Tim Hicks thanks. I know you’ve gone over it before, but like the added peel ply here, processes get improved over time.
DAMMIT DAVE, JUST REVEAL THAT YOU ARE PAINTING IT PURPLE!
I do like Purple.
Only thing I’ll say is don’t believe your eyes when it’s painted. Might do a VFX color change 😂
Street Bandito Lol. Please just do a disco color changing VFX. Then do the same for Dave’s face when he comes to get the car.
Street Bandito have the car in the background and change the colour every time we see it
Instead of waxing the roof, do you think vinyl wrapping would work? Just curious. I don't think the resin would stick to the vinyl but I'm not sure.
been hear awhile im all up to date on all video's
Please tell me you guys are following the Opera Performance channel on TH-cam. They're adding carbon fiber directly to key parts of the chassis for added stiffness and minimal weight gain. Dope!
whats the material price for a roof like this ?
I’d wrap that centre rail in carbon before fixing the roof panel.
Tip put some fold out extensions on the front of your cutting bench so you can put a rod through the carbon rolls and roll out the carbon and cut it without climbing on the bench.
Also get some pvc pipe roll up the large lay ups on it so you can roll them out on the job. If you make up a frame on wheels to hold the pipe you can work large jobs on your own.
S glass is stronger than carbon and Kevlar especially under impact conditions it doesn’t shatter as readily.
If you use two layers of S glass in three of carbon the part will be stronger and lighter than a seven layer carbon part.
Incase Ive mixed things up S glass is the same stuff as the transparent aluminium I believe and E glass is glass fibre
So spraying the PVA is the only thing needed to release the new skin once cured?
Yesirr. We use the PVA As the release film just make sure to follow the instructions on what your specific product says.
@@StreetBandito Awesome, I'm confused as what resin I should use, I've been carbon skinning dash trim parts for a while and I just use generic epoxy resin off of ebay but seeing as this is structural what sort of resin should I go with? I've seen infusion resins and laminating resins etc... Also I'm in the UK so might not be able to get the stuff you use
@@StreetBandito And finally how long do you leave between laying on the next layer of carbon? Is it straight away or do you need to let it gas off/cure between layers?
can you do a video on repairing carbonfiber cracked bumper somthing like that
th-cam.com/video/FbUAJQAL9CE/w-d-xo.html
@@StreetBandito thanks
Your carbon fab videos are amazing... been watching for a while... I own several toys, also paint.... will love to make several body panels for my first gen Chevy Monte Carlo... front end and bumpers .... keep going back to review the process.... besides the wax you guys apply what is the first material applied before the first layer of carbon and what carbon specifications you recommend 2x or 3? There’s a lot variety. 3 layers should be enough? When do you start trimming the excess fabric once you lay the epoxy like on the roof of the Celica?
Try using
Duratec on your roof you will get a mirror finish and double-bias cloth is better than turning other at 45
It would be very hard to do this on my GTi-R, part of my roof panel extends about 6” down the C pillar and from the factory it is brazed to the quarter panel, the joint is flush from panel to panel. Obviously you couldn’t braze carbon to steel, so it would have to overlap the quarter a bit and be bonded to the steel and then the transition would have to be filled, and then a small portion of the C pillar carbon would have to be painted the body color, up to what LOOKS like the roof line for it to look right
Cobra kai is a continuation of the original movies. They even use the same actors for Daniel and Johnny. The carbon fiber work is very cool im learning alot from your videos. Im going to make my own carbon fiber panels now.
Holy shit that round cutter is amazing! Ive been dulling fabric scissors on the 3rd set. Do you guys ever use 12k inbetween 3k?
You should check out an olfa brand rotary cutter, I use one for leatherworking and the blades are much nicer than the fiskars. its super cheap too .
Do you have to remove the glass?
Is the resin you're using VOC free?
Lightweight Baby!!
Disrespected nose style I like it
Try Dry Ice on the glue you're trying to Chisel, it'll make 'em extra brittle.
This is the way
Easier to get a liquid nitrogen truck in and makes the job so quick
If I remember correctly Moose and Dave did this on the floor in Connie to great success.
Where can i get the carbon fiber cloth?
Links in the description with everything we use. All carbon comes from fibreglast
I have a question about carbon floors. Would they work just as well as a carbon roof?
Going to try ask this next time we film
You mentioned UV protection. What do you use for that?
Automotive clear coat
yea we use automotive clear coat for additional uv protection.
Can you just rivet carbon roof to the car?? And for the resin is it ok to mix titanium dust and diamond dust into the resin??
I think the roll cage with a carbon roof question was more aimed at what happens in a rollover situation with a carbon roof and no cage?🤔 maybe not tho
Shouldn't be much less safe than the original roof, tbh
The point remains... it should be as strong or stronger than the steel panel, but that steel panel is just a skin anyway. It's not actually _doing_ anything (structurally). Similar to this: bit.ly/30WHZcg
Hey Tim. Cobra Kai is well worth watching
For removing the glue on the fenders, I wonder if dry ice would help make it brittle and easy to remove. I have seen people use that technique to remove factory floor sound deadening.......Hmmmmm?
If the laminate is formed on top of the existing roof, making it 3-4 layers higher, couldn’t the same be done with all the panels, making the need to remove panels moot?
Reach out to Larry Chen.. Been harassing him about featuring you guys on hoonigan auto focus 😂😂
Need some real world Canards for the G35 Kuruma Z front bumper. What's up? Loving the channel.
Am I right on thinking that these CF panels are purely for aesthetics and not as strong as a CF piece on a Mclaren or a Ferrari?
Are you worried about cutting the fibres when you block down the top of the skin?
Did I miss a step? I thought you were having a seam down the middle of the roof on the inside like a herring bone pattern?
❓I've got a pretty detailed question... Hypothetically if I were to make a f1 monocoque what would you think would be good for layers? I was thinking:
- 4layers of 12k carbon 2x2 twill
-1layer of kevlar (galvanic corrosion)
-1/2" aluminum honeycomb
-1layer of kevlar (galvanic corrosion)
-4 layers of 12k carbon 2x2 twill
The thing with monocoque frames is that they are not uniform in thickness, so different weaves and weights go in specific areas. They also use special honeycomb foam layers to bulk up structural areas vs aluminum for ultimate weight savings while retaining the stiff properties of carbon. If one were to reproduce a one-off, you'd fare fairly well in laying in opposing layers of S-Glass and carbon, as kevlar really has no structural properties and is used for abrasion resistance in areas like the engine compartment and underside of the main tub for crash protection.
On top of what the other person said. twill is actually one of the least used carbon fabrics used in structural components. unidirectional carbon will have better properties but only in one direction. So you will often see the top layer will be twill for looks and under that will be layers of Unidirectional cloth alternating directions to give strength to the structure in the directions that matter and less reinforcement where they don't need it. the weaves give mediocre strength in every direction. something like a F1 tub will e primarily uni fabric