Top 10 Intermediate Games - with Tom Vasel

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  • Tom Vasel takes a look at his top 10 two player games that don't fit in either the "Casual" or "Advanced" lists!
    0:00 Intro
    1:11 #10
    1:46 #9
    2:29 #8
    3:33 #7
    4:35 #6
    5:36 #5
    6:41 #4
    7:44 #3
    8:48 #2
    9:39 #1
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  • @jameswoodard4304
    @jameswoodard4304 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I think I can hear Mike saying, "Yes, but what are the BGG weight ratings, Tom?"

  • @comixrr7721
    @comixrr7721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watched your review of heroscape years ago when you girls were throwing the tiles around. It has been my family’s favorite for years and we have several box sets. Can’t say enough how good and quick to pick up this game is.

  • @markchapa9805
    @markchapa9805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm loving the juxtaposition between the thumbnail and the opening music 😆

  • @gamegraves
    @gamegraves 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    glad you guys did this

  • @necrotoaster94
    @necrotoaster94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is a great list, completes the trilogy as it were. Future folks will have a hard time finding and knowing what it is though given the super secret title. 😁

  • @ogreman2229
    @ogreman2229 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Baseball Highlights is so good!

  • @gassie8952
    @gassie8952 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dice throne is a great pick, quick and easy to learn with some nice decisionmaking. My favorite game

  • @netmommy4
    @netmommy4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I´m so happy you put 1960 on the list! I loooove it and in my opinion, it has been overseen by most players. Great pick!!

  • @EmpressG
    @EmpressG 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Agree with you on Dice Throne. Very random, but very fun as well.

  • @ryanz4539
    @ryanz4539 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've had Baseball Highlights 2045 on my shelf for years. I bought it when I first picked up the hobby and only played once or twice. I may have to give it another try now that I'm more seasoned. It's also nice to hear that Tom is a fellow baseball fan.

    • @shawncharney8096
      @shawncharney8096 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      BBHL2045 is such a great 2p game! Get it off that shelf! So much fun! Suprisingly thematic!

  • @benjaminspears8488
    @benjaminspears8488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We’ve got the new square edition of Blitzkrieg pre-ordered, but I agreed if it was a different theme, it would really draw more people in. Shield vs Hydra, GI Joe vs Cobra, Transformers vs Decepticons....these would all be pretty great themes that would work for the game.

  • @PamWD
    @PamWD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Res Arcana is fantastic! Undaunted is good as well. Really like Thunder & Lightening, although we don't own it (our son does, though!). Great list!

  • @pokefrosch617
    @pokefrosch617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great list. Blitzkrieg is brilliant!

  • @DoctorPoo
    @DoctorPoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have 3-4 of everything Heroscape in tubs. Such a great game. Also the largest game in my collection.

  • @romainb9174
    @romainb9174 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What about a top 30 list of 2p games regrouping the 3 lists you did ? ;)

  • @MaveriJediC
    @MaveriJediC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Propos for Blitzkrieg. My best 2 player fast game of all time :)

  • @patrickmcardle1920
    @patrickmcardle1920 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d heard whispered talk and rumours of the fabled measurement unit ‘the notch of woo hoo hoo’ 08:41 but thanks to Tom it’s now out there.

  • @DullDishwater
    @DullDishwater 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Ah so THIS is where you’ve been hiding all the good games. Solid list

  • @adilgeresu2296
    @adilgeresu2296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Been waiting for a reprint of thunder and lightning or Hera and Zeus for what seems like forever…. Hope Asmodee comes through.

  • @MapAndKeyGaming
    @MapAndKeyGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a feeling they were going to do this

  • @russellmalo1171
    @russellmalo1171 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is Baseball Highlights 2030 the prequel game?

  • @evansj18
    @evansj18 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Undaunted is so good! For my personal list I would add Blitz Bowl, D&D Dicemasters and the Transformers TCG.

    • @ArnieHorta
      @ArnieHorta 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think he had Dicemasters in the advanced list..

  • @lukejw11
    @lukejw11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Blitzkrieg is an amazing 2 player game.

  • @jdotco23
    @jdotco23 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great list. I still wish they would limit their 2-player lists to games that can ONLY be played by two players. I personally think a majority of games play better with two anyway than, say, four (I'm not saying there aren't many games that play better with high player counts, because there are), so to include any game as a possibility for this list kind of dilutes the point for me. Strict 2-player games I like include Watergate, Home Alone, Fugitive, Targi, Jaipur, Haven, Draco Magi, Onitama, Shobu, Star Wars: Empire v. Rebellion, Star Wars LCG, and Hogwarts Battle. Warchest and Santorini would be on my list, but they technically allow for more than two players.

  • @ichirofakename
    @ichirofakename 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dang I wish I could find a copy of Thunder & Lightning.

  • @southernfriedgamenight4304
    @southernfriedgamenight4304 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude, if 7 wonders duel is on the causal then blitzkrieg definitely is lol

  • @warrenbeck1984
    @warrenbeck1984 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am surprised watergate didn’t not make this list.

  • @ArnieHorta
    @ArnieHorta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am confused about having Undaunted on this list yet Tom put WarChest on the advanced list. WarChest was created as a simplified version of Undaunted. Both are at the same complexity in my mind and if anything Undaunted is a harder game…especially North Africa with the vehicle rules.

    • @thedicetower
      @thedicetower  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sure, I shouldn't have put WarChest on the advanced list, probably. :(

    • @ArnieHorta
      @ArnieHorta 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thedicetower hey, different strokes for different folks. Both are great games!

    • @msltoh
      @msltoh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Along those same lines, I'm very surprised Tom considers Blitzkrieg more complex than Memoir 44. Really enjoy all the videos though, keep up the good work!

    • @dancondonjones
      @dancondonjones 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      While we’re niggling, Blitzkrieg is easily lighter than Targi which Tom out on the light list.

  • @blakej6416
    @blakej6416 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Okay, so how about a top ten games with secret content?

  • @jwspiker
    @jwspiker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    been trying to find your #1 in stock for a while, it's hard to find

    • @ArnieHorta
      @ArnieHorta 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were planning to reprint it with the expansion in a single box.
      If you go to PSC’s webpage you can order that new edition now.

  • @JJ_TheGreat
    @JJ_TheGreat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:34 So what makes this a “Super Secret List”? Who are you keeping a secret from?

  • @tomasxfranco
    @tomasxfranco 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tom stacked the deck by not telling everyone else that there were 3 categories. Haha

  • @22gjreyes
    @22gjreyes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we get a full video of the outro?

  • @JJ_TheGreat
    @JJ_TheGreat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:50 So where is Mike’s list?
    LOL...
    Yes, I know. His is in the “Advanced” List.

  • @shaneannigans
    @shaneannigans 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My 2-player Middle-Weight Champion is:
    BATTLELORE SECOND EDITION 😊

    • @tonkabeanicecream5698
      @tonkabeanicecream5698 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would of said Battlelore second edition leans more towards advanced for sure. With the magic and the special abilities of every unit there's a bit going on.

    • @shaneannigans
      @shaneannigans 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tonkabeanicecream5698 Fair enough.
      But compared to other 2 player skirmish, or rank-and-flank miniature games, I thought it might squeeze nicely into the middle.
      Seems a lot lighter than, say, Runewars. 🙂

    • @tonkabeanicecream5698
      @tonkabeanicecream5698 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shaneannigans I geuss, really it's a scale and not casual, intermediate and advanced sections of games. I myself would put Battlelore at the top of the intermediate part of the scale or bottom of the advanced part of the scale. I think however memoir 44 would fit into this middle list easily

  • @EngMadison
    @EngMadison 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me playing Race for the Galaxy for the 5th time: I still have no idea what's going on...can we please play San Juan or Fleet?

  • @DanieleMazzoni
    @DanieleMazzoni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love the title. I want more clickbaity title from the dice tower, as long as the content is good when I click.

  • @Vypper7
    @Vypper7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    for sure you were going to put Summoner Wars second ed on here.

  • @danton8302
    @danton8302 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well it’s not a secret now then is it!

  • @deanmccrossen2766
    @deanmccrossen2766 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you guys still on twitter?

  • @GrayWolf323
    @GrayWolf323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    maybe it'll make Zee's mid-weight 2-player games but I'm surprised no one has had Unmatched on their list for one of these yet

    • @adilgeresu2296
      @adilgeresu2296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Zee would like a word with you

  • @codym6376
    @codym6376 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If only this list was from Mike Dilisio since he seems to play the best games. Can anyone ask Mike if these games listed are any good? 😜
    Just heard at the last second Zee is making a list. His lists are usually pretty good, too!

  • @baxter7537
    @baxter7537 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yokohama Duel, Jambo, Rivals for Catan, Odin's Ravens, Imhotep Duel, Starship Catan, Carcassonne:The Castle, Fields of Arle....didn't see these on ANY list.

    • @thedicetower
      @thedicetower  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I had Odin's Ravens on my Casual list - Mike

    • @baxter7537
      @baxter7537 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thedicetower sorry...didn't remember

  • @warever37
    @warever37 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please please can you guys make a top 10 list of strategic games where luck plays ZERO factor? In other words, NO dice games, no bag building games, etc.
    Onitama is an example, but it's a bit boring. Whitehall Mystery is another example where luck plays minimal factor, and it's a tense, awesome game.
    I just HATE strategy games that have dice rolling, like Root and Wingspan... Why do designers ruin almost perfect games by including dice rolling?!
    I searched online and couldn't really find such list, so it would probably be a good idea to make one.
    Thanks for all your hard work.

    • @thedoctor1325
      @thedoctor1325 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well like Onitama there is a plethora of Abstract Strategy games, Shobu, Gipf project series, Hive, Santorini, Tak to name some more popular ines.
      Then there is:
      Sol: Last Days of a Star
      Hansa Teutonica
      Endeavour / Age of Sail
      Barenpark
      Calimala
      Northern Pacific

    • @warever37
      @warever37 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I should've been more specific and said no abstract games... But thank you SO much for the other suggestions 🙏🏻

    • @dancondonjones
      @dancondonjones 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Technically, Bärenpark has a tiny bit of luck - which is the order in which the new base tiles are revealed.

  • @hanseathl
    @hanseathl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For me Undauted is beating all other games on Chris list easily. Such a great game with smooth but captivating gameplay 👌

  • @alexstrang9823
    @alexstrang9823 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    But Heroscape is definitely for multiple players (as well as 2)

  • @robinett74
    @robinett74 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really can't with res arcana just like i can't with century spice road.

  • @chrismichael9556
    @chrismichael9556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Z's list is also 3 times as long as this video lol

    • @ZeeGarc
      @ZeeGarc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I know, I know… I couldn’t help it! 😀

    • @chrismichael9556
      @chrismichael9556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ZeeGarc don't apologize. The dice tower is great for this very reason. You all have different takes and approaches to your videos. Thanks for the content 🙏. Cheers 🍻

  • @marccote8544
    @marccote8544 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Blitzkrieg over watergate??

    • @ArnieHorta
      @ArnieHorta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely! I like Watergate but I think Blitzkrieg is the better game.

    • @marccote8544
      @marccote8544 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArnieHorta just bought watergate …. Definitely s’gonna look for blitzkrieg !
      Did you play undaunted? I know they are different but still ww2 theme!

    • @ArnieHorta
      @ArnieHorta 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marccote8544 Undaunted is a different kind of game. It is a deck builder with WW2 tactical combat. Blitzkrieg is more a strategic theater game of WW2. Both scratch different itches but I love them both.

  • @harleygrattan2851
    @harleygrattan2851 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should like cricket 😆

  • @erinnicole5423
    @erinnicole5423 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello 👋

  • @sboyd100973
    @sboyd100973 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alot of work but it would be nice if your descriptions included links to the past reviews of the games in your top 10 lists. Might get more views.

  • @Jito463
    @Jito463 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's a word for between casual and advanced, it's called intermediate. Looks like I revealed the secret.

  • @RaynorJ2
    @RaynorJ2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still no mention of watergate from Tom on any 3 lists. I thought it would of made his middle list.