on the rear trailing arm bushings, i used the prothane bushings on my DA, they come with the metal collars. All i did was knock out the old ones and knock in the new ones when i removed the trailing arm. was way easy
Agreed, the main difference is cost. If I remember those are $100ish usually? The ES set is only $35, so for a little more work of burning out the bushing you'll have a little extra cheddar in your pocket! lol
@@GarageBuiltHondas ive been looking for the past 2 weeks what is best for my budget and what is avaible here in Canada for me i came across that compagny and i just realise u had some . thank you so much for the last answer im gonna order them right away !! keep up the good work your chanel is always a Must for me when its time to work on my crx
hey man just letting you know how thankful i am for you posting this 6 years ago , i own a ed6 and am fixing up the suspension before putting it on the road and i have only rear trailing bushing thank you
Sicc video bro, I been doing repairs on my integra's learning from u since you started yo channel. Ive owned 4 3dr's I Just bought a 96 LS and was gifted back my 95 GSR rolling shell, I sold 3 yrs ago.
Great video! I’ve done them a long time ago in my del sol but needed a quick refresher for doing my civic. I like the idea of keeping the e-brake cable connected to the trialing arm and knocking out the metal sleeve to do the job. I didn’t do that on my first time. This video will definitely save me time. Removing the ebrake cable would suck on drums .
Thanks for the helpful video. About to tackle this job and although I already had an idea of what I’m doing it’s always nice to see a detailed walkthrough with tips to make it easier
I did the RTA ES bushing when I did my rear disk they were a pain you made it look easy...I felt a huge difference in the rear end of the car feels so much more planted best mod I've done to my EF.
Awesome video . I have just taken 4 hours to replace a friends 1998 Honda CRV rear suspension bushes and managed to insert the bush the wrong way around .. Tomorrow gonna remove the new bush and refit it correctly .. your tip on the oval mounting hole would have saved us a whole lot of grief and extra work .
+Richard Wallinger Ugh, tell me about it! I've experienced so many things of that nature in the past also. I'm quicker bow from those lessons and like trying to share the info! Thanks for sharing your experience with me!!
Jon Widmer almost to easy i used a fuse from the brights finished properly adding the new healight sicket with heatshrink instead of elct tape put a bulb in and lit right up. cant thank you enouph john i probably woylda stumbled across it after going further with the wireing but you saved alot of trouble
lol, I hear ya man! I've been selling off a lot of parts in my garage lately trying to clean it up. Then that money goes right back into other parts. But these new parts are getting put onto the cars so I guess I can justify it a little bit. haha
@@5PYZ3R Be glad you have a garage, i always have to do it ghetto, reat tires on the pavement front on jack stands, couple of big blankets on the floor, a bottle of vodka and go for it!
and here i am puttin this shit off cause i thought i was gonna need a press and what not to get it done so thanks for showing me a easy way to do this cause i put a lot of stuff on hold most of the time because its only me myself and i and i and this was one of those things left on the back burner
The outer sleeve of the bushing might be tapered, but it's not too difficult to push it past. The tool that allows you to do the replacement while the trailing arm is still on the car has you push it all the way through one way removal and install.
Love these videos. I'm trying to complete my suspension before i get it tuned. I just received my Energy Suspension complete CRX kit. I started with the rear control arm. The bottom strut bushing they gave me is to big and thick.
@GarageBuiltHondas We figured it out. We were trying to use the ones for the front struts. 😆 All the bushings are almost done, and I just ordered BC Racing coilovers. After that, I need to get it tuned and aligned.
@GarageBuiltHondas Thank you again. My son said he sent you pictures of us removing the bushings. I always used to burn them, but the way you showed to just burn the metal work perfectly.
you should sell that tool u made for the rear trailing arm bushings ;)... im already thinking where im gonna find a long screw, some big washers and two metal pieces, lol... take care my dude!
dizzy arrived my UFO is running again... :) no more code 4.... :) and i did buy glue and used it on the rotor screw before i mount the new dizzy, i aint gonna have no more rotor screw problems ;)...(the new dizzy they sent is not the td18u anymore its the td02u, i opened it and the rotor its not the round shape one its the rotor in T shape....shoved some glue there went for a 100km travel no problems so far ;) while i was waiting for the dizzy did some cleaning in the rear drum brakes, they where full of dust... ended up shining... almost 2 bootles of break cleaner,ahahah... one of the maxils was out of place,fixed it... then found out one of my trailing arm bushing is completly ripped the other looks fine... gotta change both... next thing to do... ;) stay cool dude!
and i was thinking about buying some oem style bushings, theyr like 12 euros here each,mapco,optimal, many brands... but after watching ur video ill get myself some energy suspension ones too so they last... since u make things look so easy ill try it myself...
Good advice, Jon. Maybe during the summer. I am going to go with OEM, though, if/when I need to replace these. My car is already bumpy enough with the stock setup. If it got even MORE rigid, I think I would end up hating life. Haha.
Haha. I was once young like you, too, Jon. My red EF was SLAMMED into the weeds, on Eibachs. I drove it like that for 6 years, and was pretty happy with it. Now, though, with the TEAL car, even though it's stock, I roll around town thinking, "Man, if this were any stiffer, I'd really hate it."
something I would like to add. brake check offers lifetime alignment. It's $150. I get it for all my cars. swap a part and take it in. It's a great deal for those of us messing with our cars all the time.
Should brake check be capitalized as a proper name? I don’t think we have a brake check in Georgia unless you call stepping on the brake pedal to see if the car slows a brake check. Be nice to have a one time payment, though.
Been wanting to do the rear trailing arm bushings on my da I've noticed it wiggles the ass at high speeds a little when i hit bumps on the road. how similar is this to the da? its next on my to do list! good job brotha always kicking that HONDA knowledge!👍✌☝
Exact same process for the RTA bushings. You have rear discs so it'll probably be easier if you let the e-brake handle down and disconnect the e-brake line.
Tried to eject the cups without pounding them. Didn’t work. Your methods are perfect. My Bernzomatic was dry so I put the rubber covered parts in a steel put, poured a little gasoline in then let them burn for about five minutes. I could hear cracking and when I tried the cups, the rubber came right out. One center section was field dressed like a dear with continued slicing with a razor blade knife. The other one - that I did my way - had its non burned rubber ground off with a wire wheel. Now I’ve got to clean that rubber out of my shop.
Hey Jon, it's been a hot minute since you installed these energy rear trailing arm bushings, how have they held up for you? What, if any, squeaking have you heard? I am about to do this same job, i have the same trailing arm bushings, but i keep seeing people mention that they squeak, or that they make it challenging to do alignments. Just wanted your thoughts on it if you have a minute. Thank you sir!
@@GarageBuiltHondas i know it's 4 years late but he didn't lie.. snapped the heads of the bolts clean off on the lca bolts that hold the struts in place, so now i'm rebuilding the entire suspension with poly bushings on every arm/link haha.
Is it safe to hammer the trailing arm bushing out when the trailing arm is still attached to the car? This channel is like the ultimate how-to when changing bushings from my 94 eg. Idk how lost i would be doing them without these videos!
+2JAYZ-GTE attached how? The TA bushing is bolted to the chassis so you pretty much have to remove it from the body to hammer it out. Not unless I'm understanding you incorrectly! And glad to help!!
+2JAYZ-GTE It's tough to get it out unless you can drop the arm far enough. I pulled mine out pretty far just to have the room to hammer and reinstall the new bushing. If not using s torque wrench, then tighten all the suspension hardware nice and tight,but don't overdo it.
Nice looks fresh looking rather then the stock trailing arms . I got a question my Civic has been smelling like high fumes in the car when I am driving I checked the fuel line what could it be
There is more than one line. You also have a return line. There are also a couple underneath the car for the fill neck and the purge/fumes. Might want to take a look at all those. What year is your car?
How about preloading the LCA bushings by raising the knuckle assembly/trailing arm with the jack till the weight of the car is off the jack stand then tightening the bolt? Would this method also efficiently preload the bushings?
+LockTest Not a huge difference, but lighter in weight and the bushings are hardened rubber much stronger than OEM replacement bushings. The look factor is nice also!
Thanks for getting back to me. When I searched for these a bunch of different versions pop up. They all seem similar but have variations in the interstitial structuring. Is there one you recommend over the other?
+LockTest I believe this one is one of the best for a daily driver. There are some that are a lot more expensive with different bushings for more extensive use but these rubber bushings keep the car feeling similar to stock. It's less harsh than the urethane counterpart.
I love DA's had 2 before and they were great. Had a EG VX hatch also z6 turbo and it was super fun, but EF's is where my love is now. I can't get enough of the body styling and boxy look.
I wouldn't bother with poly bushes in back as you end up with 2 problems. 1. The poly bushes can't flex so don't allow the arm to pivot as the car rotates. The original units are called "compensation" bushes so they are designed to allow the arm to move. 2. Due to the stiffness of the bush it is almost impossible to adjust rear toe using the toe link
@@RS7John The poly bushings can lead to snap oversteer, which is VERY unfriendly for even experienced drivers. Hardrace actually makes a bushing for the trailing arms that are very stiff vs OEM and even the coveted Mugen rubber. If you're not installing a rear sway, the LCA's are a big waste of money vs Hardrace bushings in OEM LCA's. You'll save more weight cutting the spare tire well out and replacing with a sheet aluminum vs switching from iron to alum LCA's.
Ok... :( LoL. I like those rear lower control arms tho. I just got some cheap ones off amazon. If they suck, at least the bolts will come off easy next time (if there is one). :p
Got everything loose on passenger - the learning side - and preparing to hit 14s and 17s with air wrench. I’m wondering if squirting PB Blaster or WD-40 on the metal cups that have to be pounded out would ease the pain?
Can you make a video on how to convert from pre 1988-1989 bushing style rear shocks to 1990+ newer fork style rear shocks? I'm having trouble finding adjustable rear shocks for a 88' CRX Si😢
The biggest I could find at Ace Hardware. I brought my bushing with to make sure everything was big enough. I couldn't tell you the thread sizes as I don't remember and no longer use this method. Got $70 to spend? I use my wheel bearing hit now and it works easily for RTA bushings. amzn.to/3z0e3wV
Jon Widmer im guessing so i already got new sovket from autozone and didnt work after im not super good with wireing yet havnt messed with manny harness just stereos. but my passenger works 👌
Since I am an old geezer more interested in MPG than MPH in my Civic, I wonder what that new control arm does other than look way cooler. Now on my 944 and 914s it is the other way around.
+jockellis Direct stock replacements, easier to install than swapping out bushings on old LCA's, 2.5 lbs lighter than the cast iron arms, hardened rubber which is stronger than OEM rubber, and most importantly, they "look way cooler".
Garage Built Hondas They DO look cool. I notice you seem to have your jackstands on the resting points at the edge of the body. Where do you place your floor jack in order to raise the car?
@@GarageBuiltHondas when u take off the brake lines do I need to bleed the rest of the other brakes? Like the front brakes or I can just bleed the rear left and right and that's it?
Hey Jon, dumb question but where did you purchase those larger washers? I already looked around my local home depot and no luck. I found some 3/4, 3" Outer diameter washers on Amazon but they're about 14$ each.
i’m currently completely rebuilding a crx right now and won’t be able to drive it around before torquing, Will it be fine just on the weight of the car or should I get to a point where i can drive it before torquing?
Believe it or not. It actually works. Just spray carb cleaner between the rubber bushings and the metal sleeve and poke at it a number of times with a pick. It breaks the bond. Very easy. Give it a shot. Youre welcome . Happy motoring man
Sentient Program. Yes to that! I'm researching in advance of doing my bushings, and I saw a video the other day where the guy clamped the end of the dog bone in a vice, sprayed carb cleaner on the rubber bushing, and used a flat blade screwdriver to pry it apart, spraying carb cleaner on it as he worked in from the edge. It seems that the carb cleaner creates some kind of chemical reaction that dissolves the rubber. He did mention that it smells mightily of carb cleaner. Doesn't require a torch. A good alternative for those of us that don't have a kingly tool set.
How have the Hardrace lower control arms held up thus far? As far as ride quality and durability which coilovers do you prefer? F&F Type1 or Skunk2 Pro S?
Perfect, Hardrace bushings are one of the best. I prefer FnF for daily. They seem softer on my wagon. I like the Skunk2 better for a sporty and more performance inspired feel.
I'm upgrading the suspension on my DC4 and are in between getting OEM ITR, Hardrace or Skunk2 lower control arms. As for coilovers it's between FnF Type 1's, Skunk2 Pro S or Koni Yellow/Ground Control. Thank you for the insight!
Koni/GC will be the most expensive but also the most rewarding. I've used that combo as a daily before,and now on my track car with stiffer coils and it's been the best I've used.
From what I've researched Koni also has a lifetime warranty. I'm not sure though if they would honor the warranty if the vehicle is lowered and being used for motorsports on the track.
Garage Built Hondas Thanks, that is what I paid at Autozone after asking you. That is the same price of the sway bar bushings for my Porsche 944 which are about the same size. I think there is some price fixing going on here.
Garage Built Hondas one other question: If the rubber bushings have completely disintegrated, do I need to take the trailing arm completely out or whatever it takes to lower the front?
+Luis Diaz Thanks Luis, and yes it is a possiblity. I would check your bushings at the top of the shock absorber itself. The 2 rubber bushings get flat when they get old and might squeak also.
What's up everyone!? Part 11 of Project Civic Wagon! Suspension almost complete!
on the rear trailing arm bushings, i used the prothane bushings on my DA, they come with the metal collars. All i did was knock out the old ones and knock in the new ones when i removed the trailing arm. was way easy
Agreed, the main difference is cost. If I remember those are $100ish usually? The ES set is only $35, so for a little more work of burning out the bushing you'll have a little extra cheddar in your pocket! lol
what u think of
those function and form after 4 year ?? are they still on the car ?? im about to buy those
I sold the car in 2018. Those are solid coils. They last a long time and do really well
@@GarageBuiltHondas ive been looking for the past 2 weeks what is best for my budget and what is avaible here in Canada for me i came across that compagny and i just realise u had some . thank you so much for the last answer im gonna order them right away !! keep up the good work your chanel is always a Must for me when its time to work on my crx
hey man just letting you know how thankful i am for you posting this 6 years ago , i own a ed6 and am fixing up the suspension before putting it on the road and i have only rear trailing bushing thank you
Great tips on removing and installing the bushings. Thank you. Well done, I like the pace of your video.
Glad you like, and hope it helps!
I wish I can just take my car to you! I need new bushings all around! Great job Jon!!!
haha, nice!
Haha 😂 dead same here
9:06am on Monday morning....and I’m watching John burn TA bushings off his wagon....that’s how you know your hooked on “GBH”...🇨🇦👍🏻😂
Yes!! 👍
Sicc video bro, I been doing repairs on my integra's learning from u since you started yo channel. Ive owned 4 3dr's I Just bought a 96 LS and was gifted back my 95 GSR rolling shell, I sold 3 yrs ago.
You sir are my hero for these videos, about to replace all bushing on my 91 wagon this was very helpful!
Great video! I’ve done them a long time ago in my del sol but needed a quick refresher for doing my civic. I like the idea of keeping the e-brake cable connected to the trialing arm and knocking out the metal sleeve to do the job. I didn’t do that on my first time. This video will definitely save me time. Removing the ebrake cable would suck on drums .
Really hope your making money off these videos by now man, thank you for so many simple and straight forward tutorials
It definitely helps, just glad that I've helped so many fix and upgrade their older Hondas over the yearNn
Thanks for the helpful video. About to tackle this job and although I already had an idea of what I’m doing it’s always nice to see a detailed walkthrough with tips to make it easier
This was a great video and reminded me a lot of how I work on cars myself! The proper way!
Appreciate that!!
Top job. And good tips for burning out the bushes! I'm doing this job tomorrow
I did the RTA ES bushing when I did my rear disk they were a pain you made it look easy...I felt a huge difference in the rear end of the car feels so much more planted best mod I've done to my EF.
They were for me too my first time. I've gotten a little smarter since then thankfully!!
Awesome video . I have just taken 4 hours to replace a friends 1998 Honda CRV rear suspension bushes and managed to insert the bush the wrong way around .. Tomorrow gonna remove the new bush and refit it correctly .. your tip on the oval mounting hole would have saved us a whole lot of grief and extra work .
+Richard Wallinger Ugh, tell me about it! I've experienced so many things of that nature in the past also. I'm quicker bow from those lessons and like trying to share the info! Thanks for sharing your experience with me!!
I think you just add 20hp more to your Civic installing new bushing. Awesome job, thank you!!!
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I'm just about to do this job. I want to say thank you for your help and guidance. Great video!
Thanks, hope it helps
Thanks for the burning of the casing of thebushing tip, that seems much easier than having to burn the entire thing
I learned from experience. Lol. I burned the darn bushing itself my first time. That was so messy and a PITA!
I've been experimenting with Hardrace. So far, they are solid quality parts.
Agree. Can't go wrong.
yo john found the fuse box exactly where you said i thought early models only had one thanks so much.
it was a fuse. so simple. i only looked under ashtray area and none of the interior said fuse
Rick James nice!! easy fix!!
Jon Widmer almost to easy i used a fuse from the brights finished properly adding the new healight sicket with heatshrink instead of elct tape put a bulb in and lit right up. cant thank you enouph john i probably woylda stumbled across it after going further with the wireing but you saved alot of trouble
Rick James You're welcome!
Very cool setup on installing the rear swing arm bushing! Looking rad, sir! Anxious to hear how it feels after all that's been swapped out.
Spacerichard will keep you updated!!
How as it performed since the install? I want to try this on my car too but I keep reading about suspension bind caused by poly trailing arm bushings.
I don't have any problems. Are you tracking your car?
No it's a daily driver but I recently put in front and back poly sway bar bushings and really liked the results. Looking for more!
You'll be fine! I have 3 cars that have them and I don't have any issues at all, they feel great!
Man your vids always get me pumped to start doing work to my car. unfortunately the funds don't feel the same way. 😭
lol, I hear ya man! I've been selling off a lot of parts in my garage lately trying to clean it up. Then that money goes right back into other parts. But these new parts are getting put onto the cars so I guess I can justify it a little bit. haha
for me it's the weather. must be nice to be in a warm climate 'cause I only get like half a year before the garage is cold af :(
It's the best honestly, even in the middle of winter the sun comes out and it'll be decent during the day. So grateful!
@@5PYZ3R Be glad you have a garage, i always have to do it ghetto, reat tires on the pavement front on jack stands, couple of big blankets on the floor, a bottle of vodka and go for it!
@@SlightlyDank lol I know man I couldnt live without (my dads) garage. Still gets bitter as shit uninsulated in colorado
going to do all my suspenion front and rear on my eg sedan this about to be a good refrance
and here i am puttin this shit off cause i thought i was gonna need a press and what not to get it done so thanks for showing me a easy way to do this cause i put a lot of stuff on hold most of the time because its only me myself and i and i and this was one of those things left on the back burner
+TONY D. Awesome man, if you need any pointers let me know!
The outer sleeve of the bushing might be tapered, but it's not too difficult to push it past. The tool that allows you to do the replacement while the trailing arm is still on the car has you push it all the way through one way removal and install.
Really well done thanks eh, From Canada!!!
Hey there, thanks!
bro made his own bushing press. imma na do that too in the summer
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Great video, suspension work being done on my ek3 and this video really explained well.
Thank you Daryl
Love these videos. I'm trying to complete my suspension before i get it tuned. I just received my Energy Suspension complete CRX kit. I started with the rear control arm. The bottom strut bushing they gave me is to big and thick.
Are they the 88 LCAs that you have?
@GarageBuiltHondas We figured it out. We were trying to use the ones for the front struts. 😆 All the bushings are almost done, and I just ordered BC Racing coilovers. After that, I need to get it tuned and aligned.
@GarageBuiltHondas Thank you again. My son said he sent you pictures of us removing the bushings. I always used to burn them, but the way you showed to just burn the metal work perfectly.
Your diys are great dude. Nice video!
Much appreciated Daniel, hope you like the future content!
You are the best !!! Video was very informative!!
Thank you! 👍
Well done.
Thank you for taking your time out to show us.
Thank you, you're welcome!!
Man this video was satisfying
Thank you! 👍🙏
You saved me bro! Thank you!
Glad I could help!
Very well job done
Thanks for watching Zoran
Would you happen to have a list of the little jig you used to install the bushings 😊
you should sell that tool u made for the rear trailing arm bushings ;)... im already thinking where im gonna find a long screw, some big washers and two metal pieces, lol... take care my dude!
That's a good idea!!
dizzy arrived my UFO is running again... :) no more code 4.... :) and i did buy glue and used it on the rotor screw before i mount the new dizzy, i aint gonna have no more rotor screw problems ;)...(the new dizzy they sent is not the td18u anymore its the td02u, i opened it and the rotor its not the round shape one its the rotor in T shape....shoved some glue there went for a 100km travel no problems so far ;) while i was waiting for the dizzy did some cleaning in the rear drum brakes, they where full of dust... ended up shining... almost 2 bootles of break cleaner,ahahah... one of the maxils was out of place,fixed it... then found out one of my trailing arm bushing is completly ripped the other looks fine... gotta change both... next thing to do... ;) stay cool dude!
and i was thinking about buying some oem style bushings, theyr like 12 euros here each,mapco,optimal, many brands... but after watching ur video ill get myself some energy suspension ones too so they last... since u make things look so easy ill try it myself...
Man these vids are so good, please do not stop haha
Thanks GutterRash! I don't plan on it!!
Always wanted to see what that part of the car is. Thanks, Jon!
Baddest Burrito You should check yours, if haven't been replaced, they may be tearing also.
Good advice, Jon. Maybe during the summer. I am going to go with OEM, though, if/when I need to replace these. My car is already bumpy enough with the stock setup. If it got even MORE rigid, I think I would end up hating life. Haha.
Baddest Burrito lol, I'm the opposite, I don't like the floaty feeling of stock EF's.
Haha. I was once young like you, too, Jon. My red EF was SLAMMED into the weeds, on Eibachs. I drove it like that for 6 years, and was pretty happy with it. Now, though, with the TEAL car, even though it's stock, I roll around town thinking, "Man, if this were any stiffer, I'd really hate it."
I am getting older, maybe I'll change my mind one day!
Thank you sir that was vwry helpfull, good video..
something I would like to add. brake check offers lifetime alignment. It's $150. I get it for all my cars. swap a part and take it in. It's a great deal for those of us messing with our cars all the time.
That's a good price! Will they set your camber/toe to whatever settings you want, or are they anal and stick to oem specs only?
Jon Widmer im not sure. they seem pretty reasonable but then thats my local shop.
Should brake check be capitalized as a proper name? I don’t think we have a brake check in Georgia unless you call stepping on the brake pedal to see if the car slows a brake check. Be nice to have a one time payment, though.
+Thomas Cruz 👍
ive read Prothane are better, the black graphite, or genuine Honda bushings
Holy boy racer!
Energy suspension Rt4wd rta bushing replace is the same as this process herein per my experience replacing them
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mmm mmm mmmmmm toasty bushings
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haha, roast them up!!
Been wanting to do the rear trailing arm bushings on my da I've noticed it wiggles the ass at high speeds a little when i hit bumps on the road. how similar is this to the da? its next on my to do list! good job brotha always kicking that HONDA knowledge!👍✌☝
Exact same process for the RTA bushings. You have rear discs so it'll probably be easier if you let the e-brake handle down and disconnect the e-brake line.
amazing work another great video Jon keep it up good work 😆
Thanks brotha!
Jon Widmer your welcome man!!
Tried to eject the cups without pounding them. Didn’t work. Your methods are perfect. My Bernzomatic was dry so I put the rubber covered parts in a steel put, poured a little gasoline in then let them burn for about five minutes. I could hear cracking and when I tried the cups, the rubber came right out. One center section was field dressed like a dear with continued slicing with a razor blade knife. The other one - that I did my way - had its non burned rubber ground off with a wire wheel. Now I’ve got to clean that rubber out of my shop.
+jockellis It can be a little messy! Glad to hear you're getting it completed!
Man I love these videos man !
Thanks man!
John would you have a DIY integra trailing arm rear disc conversion video for the EF hatchbacks ??!!
Adolfo Balubar That video will be up on September 24th, 10AM Mountain Time. 👍😉
Thanks John ! 🙂
+Adolfo Balubar anytime!!
Simple bolt up. Use DA parking brake cables
Adolfo Balubar th-cam.com/video/6GcLe_hV85Y/w-d-xo.html here's the link!
Hey Jon, it's been a hot minute since you installed these energy rear trailing arm bushings, how have they held up for you?
What, if any, squeaking have you heard?
I am about to do this same job, i have the same trailing arm bushings, but i keep seeing people mention that they squeak, or that they make it challenging to do alignments.
Just wanted your thoughts on it if you have a minute. Thank you sir!
I sold this car in 2018. But have the same bushings on 2 of my other cars and zero issues at all.
What size washers are you using*? “ Important “
Great video upload! Replacing LCA in the rust belt is a lot more challenging ;)
Oh man, I'd probably never work on cars ever. haha
@@GarageBuiltHondas i know it's 4 years late but he didn't lie.. snapped the heads of the bolts clean off on the lca bolts that hold the struts in place, so now i'm rebuilding the entire suspension with poly bushings on every arm/link haha.
Good luck!
hell yea thanks for the tips! helped me out alot!
+Toto Chavez glad to hear man!
Is it safe to hammer the trailing arm bushing out when the trailing arm is still attached to the car? This channel is like the ultimate how-to when changing bushings from my 94 eg. Idk how lost i would be doing them without these videos!
+2JAYZ-GTE attached how? The TA bushing is bolted to the chassis so you pretty much have to remove it from the body to hammer it out. Not unless I'm understanding you incorrectly! And glad to help!!
Is it necessary to use the correct torque specs? I mean i dont want to over tighten the bolts
Garage Built Hondas i mean do i have enough space to hammer it out when it is still attached to the lca and uca
+2JAYZ-GTE It's tough to get it out unless you can drop the arm far enough. I pulled mine out pretty far just to have the room to hammer and reinstall the new bushing. If not using s torque wrench, then tighten all the suspension hardware nice and tight,but don't overdo it.
Nice looks fresh looking rather then the stock trailing arms . I got a question my Civic has been smelling like high fumes in the car when I am driving I checked the fuel line what could it be
There is more than one line. You also have a return line. There are also a couple underneath the car for the fill neck and the purge/fumes. Might want to take a look at all those. What year is your car?
Garage Built Hondas its a 94 thank u for the info will look tomorrow on my day off
It'll be similar on your car. Check under the rear seat where the fuel pump goes into the gas tank.
You COULD make your own bushings. Search for it on here. Much more solid too.
Squirrel Killa The poly filled ones?
How about preloading the LCA bushings by raising the knuckle assembly/trailing arm with the jack till the weight of the car is off the jack stand then tightening the bolt? Would this method also efficiently preload the bushings?
Yes, absolutely!
@@GarageBuiltHondasCool. I'll see which method works best for me.
been there, done that. but be careful
Great video!!!! Well done
Thanks Omar
Exellent work!!!
Thanks for checking it out!
What benefit do these offer over the stock componentry ?
+LockTest Not a huge difference, but lighter in weight and the bushings are hardened rubber much stronger than OEM replacement bushings. The look factor is nice also!
Thanks for getting back to me. When I searched for these a bunch of different versions pop up. They all seem similar but have variations in the interstitial structuring. Is there one you recommend over the other?
+LockTest I believe this one is one of the best for a daily driver. There are some that are a lot more expensive with different bushings for more extensive use but these rubber bushings keep the car feeling similar to stock. It's less harsh than the urethane counterpart.
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Holy crap that first trailing arm bushing was wasted
Thank so much for your great details video
You got it, thanks for watching
great. i need to do this.
haha, yes you do!
love the efs any thoughts on getting a da or ej for a future project
I love DA's had 2 before and they were great. Had a EG VX hatch also z6 turbo and it was super fun, but EF's is where my love is now. I can't get enough of the body styling and boxy look.
Get a EF
What are your thoughts on the rear trailing arm bushings; are they worth it;
I really like them for daily drivers. For a track car I would get HARDRACE or spherical if your budget allows.
I wouldn't bother with poly bushes in back as you end up with 2 problems.
1. The poly bushes can't flex so don't allow the arm to pivot as the car rotates. The original units are called "compensation" bushes so they are designed to allow the arm to move.
2. Due to the stiffness of the bush it is almost impossible to adjust rear toe using the toe link
@@RS7John The poly bushings can lead to snap oversteer, which is VERY unfriendly for even experienced drivers. Hardrace actually makes a bushing for the trailing arms that are very stiff vs OEM and even the coveted Mugen rubber. If you're not installing a rear sway, the LCA's are a big waste of money vs Hardrace bushings in OEM LCA's. You'll save more weight cutting the spare tire well out and replacing with a sheet aluminum vs switching from iron to alum LCA's.
How nice. Everything just unbolted for you. Wanna come do my 97 civic with bushings seized on the bolts? :D
Umm, no. I'm good. Lol
Ok... :( LoL. I like those rear lower control arms tho. I just got some cheap ones off amazon. If they suck, at least the bolts will come off easy next time (if there is one). :p
do those trailing arms work good on lifted crv?
I'm sure they'd be just fine. Plus they have the hardened rubber bushings which would last longer than OEM replacement rubber.
Got everything loose on passenger - the learning side - and preparing to hit 14s and 17s with air wrench. I’m wondering if squirting PB Blaster or WD-40 on the metal cups that have to be pounded out would ease the pain?
+jockellis It won't hurt, that's for sure. It really isn't that hard. It looks a lot harder than it actually is.
Brilliant 👍🔩🔧👊!!!!
Thanks LBJ!
what coil overs do you recommend for a daily that has a nice ride
great videos :) huge inspiration
Kris Kris Ground controls on some nice shocks. Koni or Tokico Illuminas
Jon Widmer thanks! Will look them up
I just finished doing the poly kit for front sway bar and links on my hatch. This is for sure next as my bushings are cracked all the way and loose :(
Noah Pollack It's crazy how many miles the old rubber lasted!
What brand bushing did you use that only lasted 3 years?
Random non-oem replacement.
Can you make a video on how to convert from pre 1988-1989 bushing style rear shocks to 1990+ newer fork style rear shocks? I'm having trouble finding adjustable rear shocks for a 88' CRX Si😢
I just wondering what size of threaded stock and size of washers used?
The biggest I could find at Ace Hardware. I brought my bushing with to make sure everything was big enough. I couldn't tell you the thread sizes as I don't remember and no longer use this method. Got $70 to spend? I use my wheel bearing hit now and it works easily for RTA bushings. amzn.to/3z0e3wV
been working on my 85 wago took a brake on ny 88 headlight wireing was giving me hell
Not working? A short somewhere?
Jon Widmer im guessing so i already got new sovket from autozone and didnt work after im not super good with wireing yet havnt messed with manny harness just stereos. but my passenger works 👌
Rick James check the fuse also under the dash. each headlight has its own fuse.
Jon Widmer dont the 88s only have one fuse box under the hood?
Rick James No, you will have one under your dash. remove the cover above your knees then check the headlight fuse
Good video,you sound like Tom Cruise bro
Thanks, that works for me! He's one of my favorite movie stars.
Thank you this video help me
You're welcome, glad to help!
Little late on the video here... what is best in your opinion ? Hard race or ES??? My rear trailing arm bushings are toast.
All personal preference. ES are more stiff comparatively. I like the HR better for comfort.
Awesome thank you very much!!! Your videos are the best. 🤙🏼
Thanks Alex
Since I am an old geezer more interested in MPG than MPH in my Civic, I wonder what that new control arm does other than look way cooler. Now on my 944 and 914s it is the other way around.
+jockellis Direct stock replacements, easier to install than swapping out bushings on old LCA's, 2.5 lbs lighter than the cast iron arms, hardened rubber which is stronger than OEM rubber, and most importantly, they "look way cooler".
Garage Built Hondas They DO look cool. I notice you seem to have your jackstands on the resting points at the edge of the body. Where do you place your floor jack in order to raise the car?
+jockellis These cars have a front crossmember and a jack point there, and also at the rear center tow hook spot.
Must be nice to not have rust. I did this on my ek coupe, and every single bolt was seized in the bushings.
It's a blessing that I never take for granted. Desert life rules.
Can you share a link for the lower control arm
Thanks
jhpusa.com/products/hardrace-rear-lower-control-arms-88-00-civic-90-01-integra
Did u only remove that one brake line but u kept the other line attached right? Wondering bc I need to replace my bushings
What other line? There's only one line for each trailing arm.
@@GarageBuiltHondas oh okay thanks maybe I looked at it wrong
@@GarageBuiltHondas when u take off the brake lines do I need to bleed the rest of the other brakes? Like the front brakes or I can just bleed the rear left and right and that's it?
No prob!
Hey Jon, dumb question but where did you purchase those larger washers? I already looked around my local home depot and no luck. I found some 3/4, 3" Outer diameter washers on Amazon but they're about 14$ each.
At Ace Hardware. 👍
I hated doing my trailing arm bushings omg.
Agree bud!!
What size is the bolt that holds the strut for Honda Ef? Is it 10x84?
Hey man how did you make that tool for the rta's? I'd like to do mine and this looks super easy.
I show it more in depth here, I think. th-cam.com/video/_V8sBGy0BAU/w-d-xo.html
Great video 🤟🤟👍👍
Thanks
i’m currently completely rebuilding a crx right now and won’t be able to drive it around before torquing, Will it be fine just on the weight of the car or should I get to a point where i can drive it before torquing?
Use your jack to push the suspension up where it lifts off the jack stand and then torque it. That's where the suspension sits so you'll be good.
@@GarageBuiltHondas Okay thank you man! have a good day
You should have just used carb cleaner on the rubber bushings instead of burning rubber. Its less hazardous and less of a mess
+Sentient Program The carb cleaner will remove the bushing from the metal sleeve?
Believe it or not. It actually works. Just spray carb cleaner between the rubber bushings and the metal sleeve and poke at it a number of times with a pick. It breaks the bond. Very easy. Give it a shot. Youre welcome . Happy motoring man
+Sentient Program well ill be damned!! I'm going to try it next chance I get, thanks for that info!
Sentient Program. Yes to that! I'm researching in advance of doing my bushings, and I saw a video the other day where the guy clamped the end of the dog bone in a vice, sprayed carb cleaner on the rubber bushing, and used a flat blade screwdriver to pry it apart, spraying carb cleaner on it as he worked in from the edge. It seems that the carb cleaner creates some kind of chemical reaction that dissolves the rubber. He did mention that it smells mightily of carb cleaner. Doesn't require a torch. A good alternative for those of us that don't have a kingly tool set.
Thanks for the tip. I will be tackling this very soon .
How did you like the quality of the hardrace lca?
Really nice! No complaints
@@GarageBuiltHondas
Thats good. I endded up buying the OE style with the harden rubber.
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isn't the issue with poly bushing here that the joint can't pivot?
No issue unless you're tracking your car. If it's a daily you won't even notice.
How have the Hardrace lower control arms held up thus far? As far as ride quality and durability which coilovers do you prefer? F&F Type1 or Skunk2 Pro S?
Perfect, Hardrace bushings are one of the best.
I prefer FnF for daily. They seem softer on my wagon. I like the Skunk2 better for a sporty and more performance inspired feel.
I'm upgrading the suspension on my DC4 and are in between getting OEM ITR, Hardrace or Skunk2 lower control arms. As for coilovers it's between FnF Type 1's, Skunk2 Pro S or Koni Yellow/Ground Control. Thank you for the insight!
Koni/GC will be the most expensive but also the most rewarding. I've used that combo as a daily before,and now on my track car with stiffer coils and it's been the best I've used.
From what I've researched Koni also has a lifetime warranty. I'm not sure though if they would honor the warranty if the vehicle is lowered and being used for motorsports on the track.
I believe they would. I use extended top hats to help longevity.
Do these fit on a 88 crx? I’m currently doing a disk swap on my 92 del sol using 88 crx trailing arms?
Yes
just subbed . good videos great content killer ef .
Thanks Mitchell, welcome to the channel!!
Hey I would be interested in buying old parts ... Suspension or any other .. lmk thanks
What are you looking for? Anything specific?
any suspension parts.... any after market stuff. and some plastics cluster .... i need alot
Where can one buy the TA bushings? I have a '91 wagon and the bushings are completely gone.
jockellis I found the cheapest ones on eBay. $30. Part 16.7106G
Garage Built Hondas Thanks, that is what I paid at Autozone after asking you. That is the same price of the sway bar bushings for my Porsche 944 which are about the same size. I think there is some price fixing going on here.
jockellis lol, I know the feeling! I'm always working on other people's cars to support my hobby!
Garage Built Hondas one other question: If the rubber bushings have completely disintegrated, do I need to take the trailing arm completely out or whatever it takes to lower the front?
+jockellis more than likely. It's difficult to change already, I don't see another way to change it.
Where can i buy that rubber bushing
The trailing arm bushing? *the link is in the description of the video*
would this be the cause of "sqweeking" sounds in the front and rear of my 98 civic hatch? btw, love your videos! subscribed
+Luis Diaz Thanks Luis, and yes it is a possiblity. I would check your bushings at the top of the shock absorber itself. The 2 rubber bushings get flat when they get old and might squeak also.
+Garage Built Honda thanks for the reply! i know theyre different chassis but pretty similar
+Luis Diaz 👍
Awesome
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yep v gripped 1 of my brake lines too.
RODERICK CONSTANTINO didn't quite catch what you meant.. ?? edit.. I get it! You vise gripped one also! L
Next time better tip if u dont want to deal with fire u can use a wheel brush to take out any rubber residue is much safer
Definitely!