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Not gonna lie, the gagging triggered me
I laughed my ass off, I rewatched the video just to see that gag once more
@Benton Garg Nobody does care
All too complicated for me! That’s why I just paint my minis in the shower
Some people lick their brushes, I lick my pallet. "Rehydrating" is for the birbs. I don't have bacto props cus I have brass rods un my mouth
@@RerollingOnes I feel like this could only be Shoe, Jack doesn't paint ever
@@robertderouin3169 got me! (Jack paints, but Brent paints one color per year)
oh fuk, you just broke me
I just pour the paint on and rotate the mini. No time to mess with pallettes and brushes.
To deal with the fungi and mold growing, you might want to add a couple springtails. You could also drop some pillbugs in there, of course you're gonna need to regulate their numbers. This can easily be done with some centipedes as they naturally prey on the young and weak individuals of the group. Centipedes and pillbugs love dark, humid places, so you could add some rocks or maybe some moss. To top it off, you can simply add a couple plants for color and life.
😂
You could also give them a few bonsai trees to round out the ecosystem
Just use a blow torch for instant extermination of mould or fungi .lol
Bro are we painting or starting an exhibit here?!
Micro bio guy here: if your sponge is getting really funky after a day or so, rinse the sponge with tap water wring out about half of the water and microwave the sponge for 4 minutes or so on high. Steam heat will sterilize the material. Let it cool before handling, steam is hot.
This is unreal advice! I bought this exact wet pallete when quarantine hit getting back into miniature painting and the funk is getting pretty bad.
@@DarkDramon while you are at it. Do your kitchen sponge.
@@Iamvalcristvalentine Excuse me?
@@_Bayul my undergraduate honors thesis was in relation to antibiotic resistance and household bacteria.
Microwave the sponge ;) trust me.
You could also just pour boiling water over the sponge.
"well ive never bothered with a wet palette, my paint lasts for like a whole minute or so even when its a hot day"
"i used this for three days"
"say wat"
Mina färger har hållit i väl över en vecka när jag stoppat undan paletten med lock på.
Om du tänkte investera i en wetpalette så kan det vara värt att notera att du får en perfekt fungerande wetpalette genom att lägga en blöt trasa i en matlåda från typ ikea med smörgåspapper på
Min 5 lager Wettex + matlåda Har hållt färg "arbetsbar" i några veckor ibland :) Sugen på en Redgrass, men det jag har funkar skitbra så väntar ett tag till.
@@Bearprobe Ja Wettex här med, brorsan har köpt en sån där riktig och jag kan inte påstå att skillnaden är särskilt stor
@patrick henry Truth.
@patrick henry
Australia too. The heat is why I've tried a wet palette, but it's really changed my painting, even in winter
"I'm using a piece of wood with my name on it because I'm vain." Lol way to stay honest with your viewers Scott. Never change.
My man breakin' out the Vertigo dolly-zoom shot!
Craftsman!!? 🤯
Very long time wet palette user.
Add a few drops of vinegar to the palette water, keeps the mold down and smells like a salad.
Make several palettes, my good Masterson and other diy palettes. One for faces, one for eyes. Sealed, they can last weeks.
Use the tops of take-away salsa containers on your palettes for thinning water, flow aid, and retarder. Keeps you focused on the work.
And most importantly, PAINT MORE MINIS!
I was literally just thinking about dry patches on my palette and wondering what I was doing wrong a few hours ago. Thanks for this.
Same here lmao
Yep me too
I started using a wet palette semi recently.
Now my paints are as moist as I am
As moist as Mael
@@MrScrawnjuan hoods balls that Was a shock! Never expected anyone to recognize that! Burns blessings
@@abridgeburner9927 Beru fend friend
Moist boyz represent. Tap tap MOIST!
Good tips! I put a Clorox anti-fungal wipe underneath it and haven’t had a funky fungus issue yet and the paints don’t seem to suffer quality-wise.
One comment on distilled water: I live in an area with hard water - really hard water. Thinning with hard water can actually create paint that leaves mineral deposits on the miniature (it looks like water spots - thin edges in the paint.) For those of us in this situation, distilled water is the best answer. It's the purest form of water. While that makes it a poor choice for drinking water (you're missing essential minerals), it makes it a great choice for painting, as it doesn't add any other chemicals to the paint other than 2 Hs and an O.
Just to be clear, though, if I didn't have tap water that forms stalactites on the faucet, I'd be using tap.
seeing as my faucet has 2 streams unless I scrub it nearly every time, i better get some distilled water
Same. Live in an area with water so hard that showering in it makes you eligible to work with the Fantastic 4.
That "apply the paper over the running tap" tip was spot on for my wet-pallete issues (paint drying while the sponge was soaked).
I have this feeling that with Jon finally on the youtube, we're gonna see him and Scott compete in the amount of craziness that make it into the videos :D
I use a decent splash of isopropyl in my wet palette every now and then to keep mold out if I dont plan on painting for a few days, works like a charm.
You can also buy swedish dish cloths for dirt cheap (just a sponge cloth nearly identical to the standard wet palette sponge) to replace your sponge every now and then.
If your paint is drying on your wet palette on a hot summer day, it's time for an ICE palette. No, don't freeze it! Just put an thermal pack under your wet palette, so that your paint stays wet and COOL. And you don't need a humidifier...
So, to condense the lesson of this video to one word:
[M O I S T]
*vicious tongue noises*
Not Nubilous Followed shortly after by
*Vicious gag noises*
God please no lolol
I'm in QLD Australia, I left my diy wet pallet for a month without using it, it stayed wet and didn't get moldy :D
Pity the old citidel paints couldn't do that in their containers!
Can confirm from NSW. The amount of paint ive saved is insane
Queensland is not a small place Sunny Coast here and the funk was strong with my pallet after like a week... :/
I put a touch of dish soap on the underside of my palette sponge (just a tiny bit) before filling the water. I also fully seal my lid.
It holds the growth off for much longer than water on it's own, and keeps paint hydrated for far longer than I ever need.
@@CaladorsWhen I lived in Brisbane I used to put mine in the fridge between uses, no funk.
The full B-roll video clips that you collect must be truly frightening. Super useful video btw :-)
I got a great library of ridiculous faces
I'm new to wet palettes and wanted to note this was exactly the information I needed to get solve the issues I hit in my first few attempts (did try the paper that came with it, did not use baking sheet paper properly when the first paper failed).
Now if only I had a flat piece of wood with my name on it...
I've never gotten parchment paper to work well for me but ive found the sheets that come with the Masterson palette provide the perfect amount of hydration for long periods.
Can't wait for the 250k subscriber special of one hour of Scott b-roll reactions
I've used a wet palette for hundreds of hours and you taught me a proper setup for my kit in 2 minutes. Rockin, you whipper-snapper. Seriously helpful video!
The trick to dilute some of the paint to have 2 different dilutions at the same time is fantastic. I've been using that all the time and it helps a lot!
Very helpful. Had to step away from using my palette because of frustration, but this was informative enough that I am feeling the call to try once more. thank you!
This is one of the most useful painting videos I've come across on any channel. Having just started with the hobby earlier this year, I ran across so many tutorial and tip vids listing wet palettes as their # 1 suggestion yet it never worked well for me. This clears a lot up, thanks!
@3:48 Thanks for clearing up all my previous misconceptions, I could have sworn your shorts were on backwards but after this video I can see, they were in fact-not.
I've also had the paper curling, now I understand why that happens, thanks! I don't think it's that huge of a deal, I just try to avoid the bubbles and curls in the paper and take benefit of the wavy surface to mix some pools of paint in the recesses.
I've seen some people putting ice packs right below the sponge, to keep it wet even longer. No experience with that though.
Great tips! After moving on from a DIY ice cream lid / baking parchment / tissue combo, I upgraded recently to a redgrass games wet palette. It's very good but my only complaint is that the papers it comes with are so thin that they have a tendency to rip if you try and reuse the same spot with the same paint to save on palette real estate making the paint leak through to the sponge. Maybe I just need to not be so tight and change the paper more often!
4:08, came here for some QUALITY SOUND EFFECTS, was not disappointed.
Your shorts are on too long.
you dog
@@Miniac I mean, they kinda are though
Glad you mentioned the dishwasher - I've brought my wet palette back from the brink more than once using that trick. I also find that to prevent curling putting pennies on the corners of my paper (which is cut smaller than the palette in the manner you demonstrate in this video) works a treat. I would also say it was your channel that introduced me to wet palettes and using them has revolutionised my hobby, so thanks Miniac! And everyone else buy one, you will not regret it
I add a small amount of mouthwash to the wet palette sponge. Beyond the alcohol, which in the palette won’t evaporate, it has menthol and other chemicals that retard biological growth in the sponge and keep it smelling better. It doesn’t seem to impact the paints at all at low concentrations.
Super useful demo. Solves a couple of minor frustrations I've felt with my wet palette. Like most people, I suspect, I wasn't getting my paper or my sponge wet enough to prevent some curling, or to keep paint hydrated as long as I would like. Your demonstration of setting up the palette in the sink, under running water, should resolve those issues. Thanks!
I’m using a DIY wet palette, parchment paper and paper towels as the water retaining vehicle. What I’m noticing is the paint is separating after a day or two. I usually add another drop of paint and mix it all together. However is that an indication that there is too much water soaked into the paper towel. Disclaimer the paper towel has been working great and I haven’t felt the need to go buy the flat sheet sponges, but I’m inching toward it.
I used to do wet palettes with paper towels, but it got funky one time, then I switched to a sponge cloth, paint doesnt separate anymore but the paint will form a skin after some hours, so if you go back use a bit of water
You can use a cationic surfactant like cetyl ammonium bromide (buy it from ebay - called CTAB). Its a classic used in laboratories to keep water baths cleaner, longer. Make a solution that doesnt foam too much (low concentration) and use that in your pallette. It'll also help prevent your paints splitting at high dilutions.
The word moist now triggers slurping sounds in my head in casual conversations.... thank you.
Man seriously what amazing timing, I was thinking the other night about how I'm probably not using my wet palette correctly lol. Thank you Scott!
Thanks I've been using a wet palette and had some of the problems you mentioned such as; The curling and the over dilution leaving it over night. Also with the sponge you can use bleach to clean it up really well you never need throw one away like I did :/
It has occurred to me that I've been plugging your videos all over reddit because I don't want to take credit for your tips and tricks, so I figured I owe ya a "hey thanks for all the tips and tricks" clearly they've been resonating with my hobby life 🤘
When he said "funky," I was expecting a disco ball to appear for laughs
Great vid cheers. There's nothing more satisfying on watching the Redgrass wet palette paper curl then open back up as the water soaks through it. Some great tips here which I will definitely use.
I keep my wet palette in the fridge, literally never had a problem with it smelling bad
Hmm… interesting idea….
This is the most comprehensive wet palette video on youtube. Thank you for your awesome and engaging content.
I just started using a wet palette (homemade, using folded paper towers). I noticed the paint was drying out. This video helped me understand what I was doing wrong, and how I might do better in the future. Thanks man!
I use paper towel folded a few layers instead of a sponge. Then it gets thrown out with the parchment paper. This way keeps it nice and clean :)
This! 👍
Dude! Thank you for clarifying that the paper that comes with the "sta-wet" palette ISN'T for hobby acrylics. I just kept using that paper and not getting the results I would see on youtube and assuming I was doing something wrong. Even when they would say "use parchment paper" I would assume that was for homemade palettes only, surely my purpose build palette with it's fancy paper is better. I clearly needed a real grown up to tell me the fancy paper was worse than the cheap stuff.
I add a small amount of vinegar to the palette water. It doesn't affect the paint on the palette and hinders mold from growing.
Thanks for this Scott, I'm a new mini painter, and I've been having more trouble with a lot of the simple external stuff more than the mini painting itself, so this will really help fix up one of the main things that gives me grief.
"because I'm vain." I got a good chuckle from the brutal honesty.
The award for best miniature painting wet palette youtube video cinematography goes to Miniac
Another option to prevent your sponge from getting funky, is to add a few drops of pure ammonia to the water in the sponge. This will not hurt your paints in any way. If your sponge has gotten funky, you can wash it in the sink with hot water, clear/non-scented dish soap, and a little bit of ammonia. Rise thoroughly, and the funk be gone!
I can recommend the Army Painter Wet Palette. Its what I have been using for the past 7 months, and works extremely well for me. Just don't use the paper that comes with it, its like tissue paper. I cut my own non-stick parchment paper to fit. Which I might add, you can also clean off in the sink and reuse a few times before you have to toss it.
Thanks for the video!
I use a Pyrex 7211-PC container for my wet pallette, a double layer of paper towel and then parchment. I use distilled water but while I am adding it to the container, for a clean palette, I add in a couple drops of dehumidifier bacteriostat. (2-3 drops from a pipette) This has pretty much eliminated the funky anything problem unless you leave it for an extended amount of time. I can wipe off old paint from the parchment and add a little water and go for weeks, not that you should, but sometimes life and lazy gets in the way. I do brush lick but it is very minimal and you do notice if you add too much bacteriostat but too much also makes your paints dry funky on the pallette so no issue there as you would need to clean and rebuild a new one. Just looked at the one I was using before march 2020, havent done any hobbying since lock down, it is dryer than I would have it if it was in use but still wet. It also has one little spot of growth along an edge about an eighth of an inch in size and the container has a musty basement smell but not bad for four plus months of neglect. Bacteriostat works you just need to use it sparingly.
my one is a kids travel snakes and ladders tin ( cheap old kids toy from bargain store).... it is about 20mm thick and 150mm x 150mm... instead of sponge i use a kitchen cloth brand called Chux built up to about 6 layers (that way if it gets a lil funky it is cheap to easily replace), then the cheapest baking paper available...... and my pallet will hold my paint for up to a week even in dry hot australian summers......
to avoid "curling" i put the paper on top of it, as it curls flip it and press a bit, stays flat as a curl cancels the other, also using a transparent box ( i use citadel grass tufts box) and allowing sunlight to hit it really really slows down bacterial an mold growth.
awesome video, thanks for giving additional info from the original. I'm a new painter and have been really happy with your beginner videos, especially the wet pallet. These really help.
bless your vampiric soul for not talking yourself seriously. keep up the good work
Thank you for the metallic paint test. I'm so tired of hearing this online, despite the fact that it makes zero sense if you think about it for more than 5 seconds lol
Yeah it's total BS. I do get some issues with separation but that's normal.
The one problem I’ve always had with wet pallets is just finding usable baking paper, most of them in my area and online that I’ve bought all have a micro layer of some silicone/waxy feeling material on one side that doesn’t let anything through.
I’m having the same issue and cant figure out what brand is best!
You're such a wizard of Video-Editing ♥ Thanks for the Tipps and Laughs through your Video
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Greetings from Germany
Literally just flip the paper over curly side down. I've never had an issue.
This vid is moist son
I used several lengths of bare copper wire under my sponge and that helped prevent nurglings.
thank you for mentioning that the wet pallet paper is used for acrylics!! since i use acrylics.
Post production on point with the dolly zoom! Well done!
This is super helpful. I'm a wet pallet noob and I've been having issues with my paper not soaking and my paints being either too thick or thin. It could also be the weird pigment mixture the GW paint I'm using :/
You can get them folded too. Reynolds Kitchens Non-Stick Baking Parchment Paper Sheets - 12x16 Inch, 22 Count.
Just cut off the two folds and you have four sheets that fit perfectly into the Mastersons wet pallete.
Best wet pallet: small cheap paint pots(like those that come with kids painting sets), a small airtight sealed container, ***non-organic*** sponge(to prevent mold), parchment paper, and a stick or completely worn down brush(and optional eye dropper for thinning). You use thr stick/brush to put a drop of paint in a pot, then get a drop of water and mix. You can take one pot out at a time and keep the rest in the sealed container wet. Using the pots with their lid *and* the sealed container basically create a humidor that keeps everything wet for a long time. I've had a few drops of paint last a couple months in a pot and still be wet enough. It's great for long projects, saving or reusing custom colors, or just good old mini painter procrastination.
It really does great to create a large batch,as large as you need, of the same custom color. Another benefit is not having to worry about space between colors and bleeding into each other. You also more or less never need to replace the parchment paper.
This is what I've used for years and it's great.
Ok but what do you think about the video
That's great advice. So it's like a tiny little group of individual wet pallete wells daisy chained together? Would a watercolor palette with the individual wells with lids work the same? I hate how the paints run into one another in my wet palette
i add some isopropyl as an antibacterial to my sponge water, also lowers the surface tension of the paint, works really well
I’ve been using a Rubbermaid, paper towel sponge wet palate for the last year and it’s been great. My only problem was mold buildup if I left it closed for too long but that was easily fixed by replacing the sponge and washing the container. It was even easier to prevent. I
I used much less water because I thought it would thin my paint. It was good though because of humid weather. I put my fully closed lit on and didn't have oppertunity to paint for months. When I opened my wet palette the paint was good to go again, except for the thinnest layer.
however I did suspect fungus beginning. The big mistake was, not to paint for months..
Also, if you have issues with dust and particles mixing into your paint on the wet pallette it'd be worth investing in a air purifier. Might save you having to take a knife to your miniature to dig up a tiny pube.
A good tip on humidity too - if you live in a place where you use the air conditioning a lot it will dry the room out.
Consider painting without the AC on.
I like the tip about curling paper. I always held it down until it "released" I like your idea better. Makes more sense.
What a beautiful array of faces Scott, truely mesmerising
Great informative vid, Scott. Thanks. My biggest issue is the paper curling a day or two down the line but I have a bunch of branded stuff to get through so maybe it is thicker? Not sure.
Oh and for anti bac... I boil the water an hour before I want to use it
THANK YOU!
Ugh. I've been juggling with getting mine just right for a long time. The level of saturation on the sponge is something I could never get a good answer on before now.
Great stuff, man. For the prevent the bacteria from infesting your wet sponge it is good to add a few drops of Hydrogen Peroxide after you have completed the general moisturing
I put the little beads of Gardeners potting Gel water retaining beads under my paper with a layer of highly absorbent sponge under that which is all well soaked in water.. The Gel beads retain water from the sponge ,soaked in water and they then feed the Paper . Works for me anyway.
After this video, I think I'll try baking paper again, especially since you mentioned about soft body acrylics, I find my paints not as usable or versatile with that paper vs when I made my own palette, contacted support and helped me through but its just not the same, hopefully its just a matter of changing the paper, although I would've loved to know this before buying the replacement pack, idk what I'm gonna do with all this paper :)
A small amount of salt, vinager work too and many dish soup now have antibac additives. I've been using wet pallette for 30 years. Never had a funky moist one.
Great tip on the droplets on top of the parchment paper. I have been struggling with over thinning and wondering why.
I use the army painter wet palette and the papers they sell with no issue, I also put my metallic paint on it with no issue. Guess as you say Scott depends where you live, myself I reside in Scotland no hard water issues at all.
Those facial expressions at the end was basically Beaker from The Muppets.
Thank you so much for this video! I got a wet palette for my birthday last week and have been struggling trying to figure it out. It seemed that my paint was way too thin. Thanks for all the advice.
This is great information. I do think that humidity is a big factor with wet pallettes. For instance, where I'm at I have to worry less about mine getting "funky" and more about it drying out (it's super dry here).
Fantastic video. I never thought about how spreading out the paint makes it dry faster. I guess I'll have to kick that habit...
Also this video is EXTRA weird to watch without sound. I was just trying avoid avoid waking my sleeping partner and now that funky pallette segment is going to haunt me. Thanks.
Been using a the same wet palette since your first video about them and this video has definitely cleared up some trouble I was encountering! Thanks Scott!
Yep. I've been doing it wrong. I'd fill the palette til the sponge was fully saturated and the place the paper on top. Of course it curled so I just dragged water around the edges to keep it in place.
Gonna try this method later today. Wish me luck.
Yeah I 3d Printed my own with my own designs into it
I live by the wet palette now
Hey, I'm from Spain (more specifically from Galicia, an area where we have around 60% humidity throughout the year) and here, you don't need a humidifier or anything, the paints on the wet palette last a long time.
En Murcia, abres la pintura y cuando pestañeas se ha quedado el pincel clavado porque ya se ha endurecido
For growth or smells, just put a couple (literally 2 -3) drops of bleach in there when you refresh the water. You wont have to add any more bleach for a very long time, even if you are adding lots more water. For the metallic paints, I have had those Vallejo air metallic eat through the paper on the pallet just sitting there some how, that was no fun.
I guess there's a market for copper infused sponges
I use the Redgrass wet palette, but on the rare occasion that the sponge gets a little funky, I soak it in some white vinegar for a little while and then rinse it clean. I don't have to do it too often and it kills anything nasty or slimy.
Super helpful! And that horror-esk slide/zoom/refocus on the palette was ridiculously smooth. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Just get a plastic tupperware box thing like from a takeaway, get some paper towels folded up and some grease proof paper cut those to size to fit the box and then place paper towels in and grease proof ontop of it, fill it with water and wait for it to soak up, plus when you're all done you can put the lid ontop and put it aside.
Wet pallets changed my life, I really recommend the army painter wet pallet because it comes with 2 mold treated sponges and 50 sheets plus a sleeve and brush holder... Seriously it'll change your paint game
I made my own wet palette and it serves me very well. That being said, the tip on preparing the paper will make it even better :D Oh, I also use it less now because I have discovered the joys of oil paints.
Yes, I was setting my pallette up wrong. Thank you so much.
Amazing video for a returning painter like me who completely forgot how to maintain a wet palette.