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Latterlig god pris på masterson sin wet palette til Norge og. Kjøpte to. No gjenstår det berre å få motatt dei Kickstarter bystene dine so kan eg sette meg ned med min bedre halvdel og male :) For all you non Scandinavians in the comment section: Ridiculous pricing on the Masterson wet palette to Norway as well. Bought two. Now all I have to is wait until the Kickstarter busts arrive so me and the SO can start painting :)
Random mini fig question. I got the necron learn to paint kit and it says the minis were “push fit” to assemble, when you make minis that are “push fit” do you still use glue to stick them in place? (I.e. other foot to base) Or is the “push fit” system only on the entry level minis for beginners.
Big tip on homemade wet palettes: upside down tupperware. I use the LID of a tupperware as base instead of the "box", so there are no tall walls getting in the way.
Been doing this for a while now, the only problem is that the bigger size of the container means that the paints will dry out a bit more when storing. But otherwise works well.
I have the STA-WET Palette and have been using it for a couple of years. If you're in the US you can buy the Reynolds Kitchen cookie baking sheets. They are pre-cut parchment paper that is folded so it makes 4 squares that are perfect for the palette.
I find the red grass so nice. I’ve literally left paints in it for 3 months before after upgrading to the XL and they were still wet. That seal is no joke, and the magnetic wavy palette on the side is useful for washes and metallics which just really helps my flow. Getting out and cleaning out a separate palette always just one more extra step. That army painter one looks cool and the ability to store brushes seems really useful. Red grass for home Army painter for travel maybe for me.
Ya I have left paint in my red grass one for the summer and when i opened it up I would have been able to paint with most of the paint. I have never had the issue of that he talks about but I see he uses alot more water in his wet pallet then I do.
I use the army painter one myself. A major reason for me buying it was that the refill pack is dirt cheap. £7/€8 for 2 sponges and 50 sheets is a bargain
I just started painting again after not doing it for almost 30 years....yup...Battletech back in high school...lol. Everyone said to get a wet pallet and I went for two of the Masterson's and I LOVE them. I have access to Tupperware and used that at first to get used to it, but I cannot understate how nice it is to have two dedicated wet pallets, I got the curved tip water bottles to keep them hydrated, and I have an old-style paper cutter so I can cut like ten sheets of parchment paper at a time and it doesn't bug me much. Love the vids man, keep them coming!
Mentioning Marco Frisconi! Man I love that guy and his channel and the fact you are also a fan makes me an even bigger fan of your videos than I was before.
@@Monkeyninjaghost ahh yeah I will rewatch that one. I have always been a fan of both channels. And by always I mean since this summer when I started getting into the hobby.
I've been using the (small, orange) Redgrass wet palette for a couple of years and I'm extremely happy with it. Closing it has not been an issue - just put less water in it. The sponge is working very well. I keep it wet, but not much free water around it. Sure, the price could be an issue for many, but given the high quality and what we pay for paints, brushes, paint stations and above all miniatures/games it's worth it.
Being relatively new to painting miniatures, I had to learn that this hobby is not one of the cheapest anyway. And sure, at the moment, this palette costs 25 Euro, but this is something you will have for a long time, so this is relative.
Thanks for this honest review! I had been using a Tupperware sandwich lid and parchment paper, but used paper towels soaked in water instead of a decent sponge thing which resulted in paint separation. I finally just caved. I really want the Red Grass XL, but decided on the Army Painter since my work area is tiny. It arrives in April. So excited!
I use the Masterson myself, and really love it. The only other reason I would pick it over your favorite is if your painting space is smaller, a big pallet may be impractical. Great video as always. Thanks very much.
Thanks for the video, persuaded me to go for the Army Painter one as space is an issue on my desk and having somewhere to keep my brushes is a nice bonus.
Good video Squidmar! Cheers from a fellow Swede! :) Honestly I don't get why people buy these so that's why I watched the video. I don't see the benfefit of a premade one. I use a small soap cup with low edges, have a dishcloth cut to size, and then add a paper used for separating sandwiches in food boxes. That said, the use of a wet palette is the thing that has helped me improve my painting, by far.
I have what I consider an amazing wet palette set up. I found in one of my local department stores in the bathroom section of all places these wonderful stackable plastic organizer trays. They have a ridge on the bottum that form fits into the top. And they cost like a dollar each. One great thing is that they are long enough to hold my paint brushes too. So I store paper, brushes, and a wet palette all stacked up.
I was looking at some of these at a dollar store the other day, and I was so close to buying a couple to try out. I was concerned that without a seal of any sort, they'd dry out. How does paint hold up with just the friction fit of the trays to seal it up?
Came for the Masterson review (I also got the Jazza box, just now started cracking into it) and am SO GLAD it's not just me on the paper being wonky. I've tried both following the soaking instructions and nothing, rinsing it with hot water, nothing makes the paper feel like a skin instead of just random paper. And the paints have soaked through into the sponge which messes with my color perception sometimes. Thank you for noting it and suggesting the parchment paper instead, probably going to use up what came in the box and swap over.
Right now am using a modified make up container. it is shallow and wide, so i have more than enough space. I sawed off the hinge, which gives a small opening for ventilation and lets me remove the lid so it doesn't get in my way. I am using paper towels to hold the water and self cut parchment paper as a surface. Works great for me!
Thanks for your insight. I don't have a lot of brushes and I certainly don't paint as mush as you. So, I think I like the Army Painter one best for me. The brush storage means I can keep everything together.
So I got the Masterson Sta-wet pallet and I don’t have a single issue with the paper made for it. I bought a large pack of the paper, when you do that it comes with instructions on how to use it. You have to let the paper sit in very hot water for about 15 mins and it then becomes very porous and will keep my paints fresh for up to a week. And i can reuse it a few times. Maybe give it another shot? Or maybe most of you did try that and still didn’t like it...well then do what works lol. Strangely I was gifted the Army painter one and that one drys out faster than the Masterson.
Great video. I too use a Redgrass wet pallet. One thing I have found regarding the sealed in paint getting too wet between sessions is the washed out paint can be removed with a paper towel. If you use a gentle action the paint wants to stick to the towel more than the pallet leaving the paper surface intact for reuse. Of course it doesn't remove all the paint so it only works if you are painting off the same pallet of colours but on the plus side this helps matching the blends. It might seem obvious but a lot of my friends were in the habit of swapping paper each session which is fine if you want to but is very wasteful. I have kept paper in use over multiple sessions covering several weeks. Give it a try there is nothing to lose, because even if you damage the paper surface or have trouble removing the unwanted spoilt paint you were going to chuck the paper anyway.
Your choice of palettes to review were great. I own the Masterson, picked it up at a retail craft store. My sponge got mold, but only because I left it sitting with water for over a week. This is after months of use. It’s coming apart near the middle when I wash it, but only because I had to wash the mold off. I also have to cut my own paper, and I don’t mind it. I’m going to invest in an RGG version. I’m hoping the paint WONT separate overnight the way my Masterson unfortunately does. Other than the mold, and citadel paint separation after sitting overnight, it’s a great palette for the price🫰🏽
Most of these hobby supply reviews make me second guess my purchases. It's nice to see I made a good choice with the Masterson wet palette. Good job and thank you for the insight.
👍Was pleasantly surprised when you didn’t poo poo the idea of using a diy wet palette. Thanks for the review and breaking down the pros and cons of each.
As a noob, I am SO glad to see that the Sta-wet palette's paper is actually the problem and its not how I'm using it. That paper has been frustrating me for so long and it had me really scratching my head as it did not seem to be keeping my paints wet like other people's palettes I see in videos (even when I followed the instructions and pre-soaked the paper in warm water).
Iv been using a home made wet pellet for about 5 years now, if been thinking about buying one but what iv got works fine. It was good to see your review on the different pallets, I think it will help me decide on which one I'll eventually buy. Great video as always.
Biggest problem I had trying to make my own in the UK was getting parchment paper since every store seems to just sell the wax coated ones that won't allow any water through at all.
I find that I liked the wax paper more then parchment to protect my paints from getting too wet from underneath , but the moisture of the box overall was enough to keep my paints wet. I’ve had it mold before the moisture and paints dries up.
It's just non stick baking paper bro. Grab it at any supermarket in the UK. £2 for a roll that never runs out. I used to make my own for years with kitchen roll, baking paper and a tupperware container.
I got the orange redgrass one when it came out on kickstarter and never looked back. Perfect size for a casual painter and the magnetized sides are perfect for metallics. Never have issues wirh watery paint. Dont over saturate the sponge. Also worth having a water dropper bottle at hand to keep it lightly moisturised if your having a longer session or painting the next day. P.s. if your in the UK just use non-stick baking paper from the supermarket.
Been using my DIY version made with a take out container, paper towel/ now sponge, and parchment paper, 8” x 10” working area. Works great only drawback, high sides about a inch. I guess when I get ready I’ll speed money or find a locking plastic container with low sides.
Just purchased the Army Painter wet palette over the Redgass one as the army painter was slightly cheaper. Very impressed so far much better than the cheap, made at home option I have been using for a long time
I picked the army painter one since it was the one most readily available for me. I already liked it but your professional opinion made me appreciate it even more :D
@@PigeonCrash also got one, seals to good, you have to open the lid a little else the water evaporises, gathers at the top lit and drips into your paints... Overhydrating them :/
Nice test. I used to have the Mastersson wet palette. Unfortunately, mold appeared after a few days. I no longer have the problem with the everlasting wet pallets.
Add a splash of hydrogen peroxide to the water before putting the sponge and paper in. This inhibits growth of both mold/mildew and does not noticeably affect the paint.
RedGrasser here with the small one which is just the perfect size for me. Started with a DIY one but parchment paper is difficult to find here since the one most sold for baking is coated on one side with some non-stock grease which just kill the osmosis/membrane effect you want from it.
I used the mastersons for a few years until recently switching to the redgrass games ones; the reason was my mastersons sponges kept degrading and growing mold (even if copper in the bottom of the palette to discourage mold from growing). After I switched the sponge out for a new one for the seventh or eighth time I bit the bullet and get the redgrass games palette because the sponge is easier to wash without destroying it and because of it's anti-mold properties. I've been using it for a few months now and am super happy. I also got the bigger XL palette and I'm happier with the size for all my mixing needs.
I know this is an older video but with the masters pallet ive found that if you use the raised area on the lid as a template for cutting the paper to fit it is easier.
Metal pencil case. Cellulose dish rag. Parchment paper. Keeps my paints fresh for ages. I’ve been painting with the same paints for just over a week now.
I've been using the same homemade wet palette ever since I started miniature painting three and a half years ago. I ended up buying the small RedGrass Games wet palette just a few days ago. The size is no problem for me as I have limited desk space and have gotten used to painting with a small sandwich container-sized palette so even this small Red Grass one is larger than what I'm used to. Plus, even though it's completely irrelevant to painting, I do like the aesthetics of the Red Grass wet palettes the most.
The pre cut Reynolds baking sheets come in a box folded into quarters. If you cut along the folds, you get four sheets that are a pretty good fit for the Masterson’s palette. They’re a bit smaller than the full size of the palette, but I think it’s a fair trade off with how easy they are to prepare.
The Ferrero Rocher box one is a great idea, I have one leftover from Christmas :), I had only been using the inserts to mix paint in but now I will use the box too. Thanks for posting the other guys use of it. I have been using a sandwich box with some paper towel and greaseproof paper in but it is a bit deep so the Ferrero box will be much better. I might invest in a thin sponge to replace the paper towel now, actually I think there are some in the kitchen cupboard :)
The P3 sold me on wet palettes. It's useful as a stepping stone for those reluctant to make their own. But I've since moved on to the Sta-Wet and it's been my main WP for a few years now. I swear by it. Cannot paint without it.
For a home made palette, i started with using the box that came with my Army Painter Wash set. Worked great. A better solution is to buy a refill for the Army Painter wet palette. The plastic contained it comes in works perfectly as the wet palette. This is a great option if your local shop stocks those and you aren't sure if you want to pay for a full Wet Palette yet. The refill pack comes with papers, and sponge! If you decide to upgrade to an Army Painter palette, you already have refills!
I use a GW static grass container with a shammee for the spounge and parchment paper. It seals tight. It's shallow. And it looks better then a Tupperware container.
I’ve been using the red grass games small palette after struggling with the mastersons. The papers in the mastersons are horrible for miniature paint. And I’m lazy to keep cutting parchment, so the red grass is good for me. Word of caution, the papers can also disintegrate if left for too long. I’m talking after 1-2 weeks
The wet palette move is RedGrass Orange, with Army painter replacement sheets. Enough room on the sides so the paper doesn't overlap, and you can keep it easily topped up with water.
Hey Emil, there is a bigger masterson. I used to have that small one, lasted years till I moved to a boggy area and it got black mold. I use the army painter now. Glad it compares to the redgrass one. Means I didn't get a bad setup
I have been using the masterson for a bit. One of the nice things about it is that I can switch from painting minis to painting with heavy body acrylics on canvas. Great reviews.
i received a redgrass games wet palette (and handle) as a gift, didn't realize they were so pricey but damn do i love it. got three packs of the papers and i have had no issue with it, as long as like you said you crack open the container if you are gonna leave it be for longer periods of times.
i made my first wet palette out of a pyrx dish i had laying around that was super flat and wide and i lined it with a washcloth and some paper towel with parchment paper and it worked great for so long!
I have the Masterson Sta-Wet, I have used it twice now. Both times I have let the paint stay in there for some time. The paint got moldy (although I have old acrylic Utretch artist grade paint, so since it is old that might be a factor) and the sponge got a swampy smell. I really didnt enjoy the smell while I was painting. So I cleaned it and havent set it back up. Normally if I'm going to sit down to paint a miniature I paint it in one sitting, otherwise they sit half painted for a while. I use regular parchment paper and slow drying medium if I'm going to be painting for a while.
I like using the Masterson Pallet/sponge + redgrass games small paper available at my local game store. Parchment paper that I've bought have a bit too much silicone in the coating that causes the paint to slide around. At my painting level I'm not very good at gauging paint consistency so using the more textured redgrass games paper really helps me check the flow of paint from my brush.
I literally had an arguement with myself TODAY about whether or not to buy a wet palette. The army painter version is probably perfect for me. Thanks for the thorough review Emil, great video!
The RGG one is definitely beyond what I'm willing to spend. I made my own from a small sistema (tupperware-type) container and that has worked well so far. I'm interested in the Army Painter and Masterson ones too. I like the idea of one that lives in my "go box" for mobile use, and another larger one that is at my desk. Good video, I appreciate your run through of what you liked/disliked, thank you!
I bought and love the form of the Army Builder one, my biggest peeve with it is the papers start to curl if i gets too dry, after watching this im considering maybe trying magnets to hold the paper down
I have been using a Masterson Sta-Wet Super Pro, which I originally got to have an air-tight storage for my oil palette between sessions. It's way too big, honestly, but that's a minor thing most of the time. I agree with you about their paper. You can tell it's meant to keep heavy body acrylics moist without making them runny. It will still keep your paints workable for hours but probably not the next day.
i picked up 2x Masterson palettes ( one after the other ) such cheap construction that they both had domed bottoms to them. so the paint would just run on the paper to the edge and into the sponge. Redgrass on the other hand, exactly what you expected and wanted from a wet palette. price is worth it, you'll only buy it once.
I use a sta-Wet palette and I have been thinking I was using it wrong now I know it's the paper it came with. Thanks Emil you saved me from buying a new palette, now I just need to figure out how to get the citadel paints out of the pots without wasting a bunch.
I use the craft acrylics for larger pieces, so the Masterson seems to be good, but I do like the recommendation for parchment papers when I switch to the miniature paints.
Got myself a redgrass XL on 35% discount, and it's absolutely amazing, but your critique about the seals being too tight is definitely true. It is expensive, but I work at an Element Games, so it was a lot more affordable to me as a result.
Thanks,been looking into getting one. Sta-wet is ~$14cdn and the army painter $36ish cdn with redgrass $65cdn +shipping .....probably the sta-wet for now
Picked up a couple of army painter ones recently, one for home and studio, and they've been great. Would love to try Redgrass at some point. Cheers for the recommendations!
I like my red grass but I bought it because I couldnt find the masterssons, but I did buy the smaller one since its larger than my homemade. I found a very low tupperware and I strongly recommend sandwhich paper instead of parchment (butter paper??) Much better moist to paint (believe Miniac mentioned it as well). But that said I have had far less issues with paints breaking apart in red grass but on that note, they sell the moist-pad and paper seperatly so ... find a good container and usung those is probably the best recommendation from my side.
I have been using the army painter wet palette for the good part of a year now and I really like it, it keeps my paints wet but not too much even over 3 days and the refill hydro packs are pretty cheap, also it comes with a neat second bottom where you can store tools and brushes..only negative for me is indeed the size, sometimes it gets a little crowded on the palette especially if Ia am working on a mini over a longer period or with a lot of colors
I actually use some box that is meant to be used for cheese and wurst for breakfast here in Germany. They are not very high, you can buy them with different hight and stack them. So I have one stack for colors, brushes and wet palettes, which is ideal for the space I have.
Nice vid as always. I'd like to add just one thing: I have the XL Redgrass and I love her but its paper doesn't really work with some brands (for example Scale75 fantasy line). I replaced the paper with parchment and it works like a dream with any paint range I've tried so far
I know it’s really small but a kid that used to come into my hobby store used an old GW grass tuft box and made a wet pallet out of it. It’s a place to start for some.
I've always wanted to try one but I dunno I'm kinda cheap and typically just use a damp kitchen towel and a take out box. Might have to pull the trigger on the Masterson.
If you're making your own, the brand Rosti Mepal have some good sandwich / storage boxes (like the Modula 550) that are quite low profile, and the one I have even has some ridging on the bottom which keeps the moisture level good by accident.
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Latterlig god pris på masterson sin wet palette til Norge og. Kjøpte to. No gjenstår det berre å få motatt dei Kickstarter bystene dine so kan eg sette meg ned med min bedre halvdel og male :)
For all you non Scandinavians in the comment section: Ridiculous pricing on the Masterson wet palette to Norway as well. Bought two. Now all I have to is wait until the Kickstarter busts arrive so me and the SO can start painting :)
Hey Emil, do you happen to know when the squidmar airbrush you talked about on the 200k stream is coming out? I want that to be my first airbrush!
Random mini fig question. I got the necron learn to paint kit and it says the minis were “push fit” to assemble, when you make minis that are “push fit” do you still use glue to stick them in place? (I.e. other foot to base) Or is the “push fit” system only on the entry level minis for beginners.
Big tip on homemade wet palettes: upside down tupperware. I use the LID of a tupperware as base instead of the "box", so there are no tall walls getting in the way.
You beautiful genius.
That's a really good idea, thank ya kindly for that.
Been doing this for a while now, the only problem is that the bigger size of the container means that the paints will dry out a bit more when storing. But otherwise works well.
this is what i do. i use a locking lid type of "tupperware" which has a nice flat lid.
Me as well Sistema tupperware
If you are going the home-made route, use your tupperware upside down so the lid is used as the palette. Gives you good low profile for painting.
I have the STA-WET Palette and have been using it for a couple of years. If you're in the US you can buy the Reynolds Kitchen cookie baking sheets. They are pre-cut parchment paper that is folded so it makes 4 squares that are perfect for the palette.
That's exactly what I do.
I bought the roll, a little tedious lol. Saw another reviewer use the sheets- BRILLIANT, man🫰🏽
I find the red grass so nice. I’ve literally left paints in it for 3 months before after upgrading to the XL and they were still wet. That seal is no joke, and the magnetic wavy palette on the side is useful for washes and metallics which just really helps my flow. Getting out and cleaning out a separate palette always just one more extra step.
That army painter one looks cool and the ability to store brushes seems really useful. Red grass for home Army painter for travel maybe for me.
Ya I have left paint in my red grass one for the summer and when i opened it up I would have been able to paint with most of the paint. I have never had the issue of that he talks about but I see he uses alot more water in his wet pallet then I do.
I use the army painter one myself. A major reason for me buying it was that the refill pack is dirt cheap. £7/€8 for 2 sponges and 50 sheets is a bargain
Same thing for the Masterson here in the states. ONLY bit is I have to cut my own paper, but I enjoy the process🫰🏽
Okay, call me nuts, but what I really want to know about is the storage and organizational system you use. Those drawers and such seem super nice.
I just started painting again after not doing it for almost 30 years....yup...Battletech back in high school...lol. Everyone said to get a wet pallet and I went for two of the Masterson's and I LOVE them. I have access to Tupperware and used that at first to get used to it, but I cannot understate how nice it is to have two dedicated wet pallets, I got the curved tip water bottles to keep them hydrated, and I have an old-style paper cutter so I can cut like ten sheets of parchment paper at a time and it doesn't bug me much. Love the vids man, keep them coming!
I read the title as "Tasted all the wet palletes" and got very concerned for half a second there
They were all delicious :D
TBF they are all just gonna taste like plastic lol
@@crowdemon_archives Yeah but which one tasted the best? I need to know now.
Next level Sam Lenz
That's Miniac's follow up video
Mentioning Marco Frisconi! Man I love that guy and his channel and the fact you are also a fan makes me an even bigger fan of your videos than I was before.
You should watch his video about "Mastering Object Source Lighting".
@@Monkeyninjaghost oh I watch all his content great stuff!
@@boredcryptek5513, I mean Emil's Mastering Object Source Lighting.
@@Monkeyninjaghost ahh yeah I will rewatch that one. I have always been a fan of both channels. And by always I mean since this summer when I started getting into the hobby.
@@boredcryptek5513, I just assumed you hadn't seen it, since Marco has a great cameo in it ;)
i got redgrass small one i absolutely love it was in my local store and really wanted to try a wet pallette have had it for 2years absolutely love it!
Finally a comparison of all the most popular ones. I have the army painter one myself bu I've always wanted to see how it stacks up.
Unlike the catchy phrasing, this video was not "Poopoo in the garbage bin."
Drilled a hole in my Redgrass lid, just a small one, it helps with condensation.
@Chapstick yep works nicely of course over a few days it harden but paint can normally be reactivated.
Thank you!!! Just looking into acrylic gouache, and this is best comparison of what will be new (cheap & awesome) equipment !
I've been using the (small, orange) Redgrass wet palette for a couple of years and I'm extremely happy with it. Closing it has not been an issue - just put less water in it. The sponge is working very well. I keep it wet, but not much free water around it.
Sure, the price could be an issue for many, but given the high quality and what we pay for paints, brushes, paint stations and above all miniatures/games it's worth it.
Being relatively new to painting miniatures, I had to learn that this hobby is not one of the cheapest anyway. And sure, at the moment, this palette costs 25 Euro, but this is something you will have for a long time, so this is relative.
I have a Masterson, and the plastic tray is rather thin, and warps a bit when it’s lidless. I think the sturdiness of the RGG is a plus 🫰🏽
Exactly thus. I use the small Redgrass one as well and never have issues with paints go8ng watery. Just don't oversoak it.
Thanks for this honest review! I had been using a Tupperware sandwich lid and parchment paper, but used paper towels soaked in water instead of a decent sponge thing which resulted in paint separation. I finally just caved. I really want the Red Grass XL, but decided on the Army Painter since my work area is tiny. It arrives in April. So excited!
Why is it specifically doing a paint separation ? I noticed also that, but I don't understand why
I use the Masterson myself, and really love it. The only other reason I would pick it over your favorite is if your painting space is smaller, a big pallet may be impractical. Great video as always. Thanks very much.
Big thanks buddy! I found this video super useful when working out which wet palette to buy. I ended up going with the Redgrass XL.
Thanks for the video, persuaded me to go for the Army Painter one as space is an issue on my desk and having somewhere to keep my brushes is a nice bonus.
Good video Squidmar! Cheers from a fellow Swede! :) Honestly I don't get why people buy these so that's why I watched the video. I don't see the benfefit of a premade one. I use a small soap cup with low edges, have a dishcloth cut to size, and then add a paper used for separating sandwiches in food boxes. That said, the use of a wet palette is the thing that has helped me improve my painting, by far.
I have what I consider an amazing wet palette set up. I found in one of my local department stores in the bathroom section of all places these wonderful stackable plastic organizer trays. They have a ridge on the bottum that form fits into the top. And they cost like a dollar each.
One great thing is that they are long enough to hold my paint brushes too. So I store paper, brushes, and a wet palette all stacked up.
I was looking at some of these at a dollar store the other day, and I was so close to buying a couple to try out. I was concerned that without a seal of any sort, they'd dry out. How does paint hold up with just the friction fit of the trays to seal it up?
Came for the Masterson review (I also got the Jazza box, just now started cracking into it) and am SO GLAD it's not just me on the paper being wonky. I've tried both following the soaking instructions and nothing, rinsing it with hot water, nothing makes the paper feel like a skin instead of just random paper. And the paints have soaked through into the sponge which messes with my color perception sometimes. Thank you for noting it and suggesting the parchment paper instead, probably going to use up what came in the box and swap over.
Right now am using a modified make up container. it is shallow and wide, so i have more than enough space. I sawed off the hinge, which gives a small opening for ventilation and lets me remove the lid so it doesn't get in my way. I am using paper towels to hold the water and self cut parchment paper as a surface. Works great for me!
Thanks for your insight. I don't have a lot of brushes and I certainly don't paint as mush as you. So, I think I like the Army Painter one best for me. The brush storage means I can keep everything together.
This video was really helpful as i am about to buy my first wet palette, the Army painter one seems solid!
So I got the Masterson Sta-wet pallet and I don’t have a single issue with the paper made for it. I bought a large pack of the paper, when you do that it comes with instructions on how to use it. You have to let the paper sit in very hot water for about 15 mins and it then becomes very porous and will keep my paints fresh for up to a week. And i can reuse it a few times. Maybe give it another shot? Or maybe most of you did try that and still didn’t like it...well then do what works lol. Strangely I was gifted the Army painter one and that one drys out faster than the Masterson.
Masterson has multiple size of the palette. The one you showed is the small one. The premier palette is larger and has the same design.
Great video. I too use a Redgrass wet pallet. One thing I have found regarding the sealed in paint getting too wet between sessions is the washed out paint can be removed with a paper towel. If you use a gentle action the paint wants to stick to the towel more than the pallet leaving the paper surface intact for reuse. Of course it doesn't remove all the paint so it only works if you are painting off the same pallet of colours but on the plus side this helps matching the blends. It might seem obvious but a lot of my friends were in the habit of swapping paper each session which is fine if you want to but is very wasteful. I have kept paper in use over multiple sessions covering several weeks. Give it a try there is nothing to lose, because even if you damage the paper surface or have trouble removing the unwanted spoilt paint you were going to chuck the paper anyway.
Your choice of palettes to review were great. I own the Masterson, picked it up at a retail craft store. My sponge got mold, but only because I left it sitting with water for over a week. This is after months of use. It’s coming apart near the middle when I wash it, but only because I had to wash the mold off. I also have to cut my own paper, and I don’t mind it. I’m going to invest in an RGG version. I’m hoping the paint WONT separate overnight the way my Masterson unfortunately does. Other than the mold, and citadel paint separation after sitting overnight, it’s a great palette for the price🫰🏽
Awesome video as always. I've just got the army painter one as my first wet palette, glad to hear it's a decent one.
I got a advent calendar that gives me a new mini each day its awesome!
Where did you get that? What a cool idea
I’ve been thinking about that as an idea. Yeah where did you get it the I’m?
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Most of these hobby supply reviews make me second guess my purchases. It's nice to see I made a good choice with the Masterson wet palette. Good job and thank you for the insight.
👍Was pleasantly surprised when you didn’t poo poo the idea of using a diy wet palette. Thanks for the review and breaking down the pros and cons of each.
I use a small atomizer bottle to spritz over my paint dollops on the wet pallet. It minimizes the 'skinning'.
i've been wanting to buy a wet palette for a long time now, but never knew which one to get so this video was perfect for me!
Samesies:)
As a noob, I am SO glad to see that the Sta-wet palette's paper is actually the problem and its not how I'm using it. That paper has been frustrating me for so long and it had me really scratching my head as it did not seem to be keeping my paints wet like other people's palettes I see in videos (even when I followed the instructions and pre-soaked the paper in warm water).
Iv been using a home made wet pellet for about 5 years now, if been thinking about buying one but what iv got works fine. It was good to see your review on the different pallets, I think it will help me decide on which one I'll eventually buy.
Great video as always.
Biggest problem I had trying to make my own in the UK was getting parchment paper since every store seems to just sell the wax coated ones that won't allow any water through at all.
Reynolds. Ocado do it the cheapest that I've found
Same issue here in Canada
I find that I liked the wax paper more then parchment to protect my paints from getting too wet from underneath , but the moisture of the box overall was enough to keep my paints wet. I’ve had it mold before the moisture and paints dries up.
@@silverhoney6969 Throw any kind of copper you have in your sponge. Coins, copper shaving, copper O ring, anything copper.
It's just non stick baking paper bro. Grab it at any supermarket in the UK. £2 for a roll that never runs out. I used to make my own for years with kitchen roll, baking paper and a tupperware container.
I got the orange redgrass one when it came out on kickstarter and never looked back. Perfect size for a casual painter and the magnetized sides are perfect for metallics. Never have issues wirh watery paint. Dont over saturate the sponge. Also worth having a water dropper bottle at hand to keep it lightly moisturised if your having a longer session or painting the next day. P.s. if your in the UK just use non-stick baking paper from the supermarket.
I may have too look at the red grass games box it's quite arid where I'm at and that might help if it's as air tight as you experienced.
I put the Army Painter wet pallet on my wishlist this year for Christmas and I'm glad it got your seal of approval.
I have it and love it! The brush holder is really handy
@@notLura I've been DIYing the passed year, so I'm excited to try it out. Provided I get it, of course.
Been using my DIY version made with a take out container, paper towel/ now sponge, and parchment paper, 8” x 10” working area. Works great only drawback, high sides about a inch. I guess when I get ready I’ll speed money or find a locking plastic container with low sides.
Thanks Squidmar, always enjoy watching your videos. Very timely as I was looking to buy one. Ordered one using your link. 👍
Just purchased the Army Painter wet palette over the Redgass one as the army painter was slightly cheaper. Very impressed so far much better than the cheap, made at home option I have been using for a long time
I think the army painter was my fav choice in that size! Good pick!
I picked the army painter one since it was the one most readily available for me. I already liked it but your professional opinion made me appreciate it even more :D
I really like mine in comparison to my DIY one, but it is far too small for me.
How did you find the lid-seal to work on the army painter one? Do the paints stay wet/have a good consistency when you open it back up?
@@PigeonCrash also got one, seals to good, you have to open the lid a little else the water evaporises, gathers at the top lit and drips into your paints... Overhydrating them :/
I bet it is made by the same people that manufacture the redgrass one
Nice test. I used to have the Mastersson wet palette. Unfortunately, mold appeared after a few days. I no longer have the problem with the everlasting wet pallets.
Add a splash of hydrogen peroxide to the water before putting the sponge and paper in. This inhibits growth of both mold/mildew and does not noticeably affect the paint.
@@crystalzanic5056 thanks.
RedGrasser here with the small one which is just the perfect size for me.
Started with a DIY one but parchment paper is difficult to find here since the one most sold for baking is coated on one side with some non-stock grease which just kill the osmosis/membrane effect you want from it.
Your videos are always great, everything super coll, useful and well done!
I used the mastersons for a few years until recently switching to the redgrass games ones; the reason was my mastersons sponges kept degrading and growing mold (even if copper in the bottom of the palette to discourage mold from growing). After I switched the sponge out for a new one for the seventh or eighth time I bit the bullet and get the redgrass games palette because the sponge is easier to wash without destroying it and because of it's anti-mold properties. I've been using it for a few months now and am super happy. I also got the bigger XL palette and I'm happier with the size for all my mixing needs.
I know this is an older video but with the masters pallet ive found that if you use the raised area on the lid as a template for cutting the paper to fit it is easier.
I love the army painter one. The top can be used as a dry pallet. It is small but fits on my bench
Warm tone. Nice and clear. I obviously talking about the voice. XD. You're the best, Squidmar!!!
Metal pencil case. Cellulose dish rag. Parchment paper. Keeps my paints fresh for ages. I’ve been painting with the same paints for just over a week now.
Also, it’s only about half a centimetre high. Effing fantastic.
Thank you brother! Very informative and inspiring, ill make my own to start 🔥
I've been using the same homemade wet palette ever since I started miniature painting three and a half years ago. I ended up buying the small RedGrass Games wet palette just a few days ago. The size is no problem for me as I have limited desk space and have gotten used to painting with a small sandwich container-sized palette so even this small Red Grass one is larger than what I'm used to. Plus, even though it's completely irrelevant to painting, I do like the aesthetics of the Red Grass wet palettes the most.
The pre cut Reynolds baking sheets come in a box folded into quarters. If you cut along the folds, you get four sheets that are a pretty good fit for the Masterson’s palette. They’re a bit smaller than the full size of the palette, but I think it’s a fair trade off with how easy they are to prepare.
If you buy the refill pack for the Army Painter wet palette, it comes in clamshell packaging which works just fine as a case
The Ferrero Rocher box one is a great idea, I have one leftover from Christmas :), I had only been using the inserts to mix paint in but now I will use the box too. Thanks for posting the other guys use of it. I have been using a sandwich box with some paper towel and greaseproof paper in but it is a bit deep so the Ferrero box will be much better. I might invest in a thin sponge to replace the paper towel now, actually I think there are some in the kitchen cupboard :)
I started out with masterson and i can whole heartedly agree that its an amazing wet palette. great video squidmar sir
I've been using a sandwich box that some ebay miniatures came shipped in for the last year. Wet paper towel and baking parchment paper.
I use the Masterson's wet pallet. $5 from Michael's with a coupon...can't beat that!
Came here to say that! Michael’s or joanns here in the US always has these with a coupon, also can get the refills there !
The P3 sold me on wet palettes. It's useful as a stepping stone for those reluctant to make their own. But I've since moved on to the Sta-Wet and it's been my main WP for a few years now. I swear by it. Cannot paint without it.
For a home made palette, i started with using the box that came with my Army Painter Wash set. Worked great. A better solution is to buy a refill for the Army Painter wet palette. The plastic contained it comes in works perfectly as the wet palette. This is a great option if your local shop stocks those and you aren't sure if you want to pay for a full Wet Palette yet. The refill pack comes with papers, and sponge! If you decide to upgrade to an Army Painter palette, you already have refills!
I use a GW static grass container with a shammee for the spounge and parchment paper.
It seals tight. It's shallow. And it looks better then a Tupperware container.
I’ve been using the red grass games small palette after struggling with the mastersons. The papers in the mastersons are horrible for miniature paint. And I’m lazy to keep cutting parchment, so the red grass is good for me. Word of caution, the papers can also disintegrate if left for too long. I’m talking after 1-2 weeks
Wait what? Disintegrating paper? Haven't seen that at all - let alone after 1-2 weeks.
Interesting comparison! I have always just used a homemade wet palette made from a tupperware plastic box and some sponges.
The wet palette move is RedGrass Orange, with Army painter replacement sheets. Enough room on the sides so the paper doesn't overlap, and you can keep it easily topped up with water.
Hey Emil, there is a bigger masterson. I used to have that small one, lasted years till I moved to a boggy area and it got black mold. I use the army painter now. Glad it compares to the redgrass one. Means I didn't get a bad setup
I have been using the masterson for a bit. One of the nice things about it is that I can switch from painting minis to painting with heavy body acrylics on canvas. Great reviews.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.. Now I need a wet palette aswell.. My LGS thanks you.. :)
I'm in the market for a wet pallet so this has been helpful. Cheers mate
i received a redgrass games wet palette (and handle) as a gift, didn't realize they were so pricey but damn do i love it. got three packs of the papers and i have had no issue with it, as long as like you said you crack open the container if you are gonna leave it be for longer periods of times.
i made my first wet palette out of a pyrx dish i had laying around that was super flat and wide and i lined it with a washcloth and some paper towel with parchment paper and it worked great for so long!
I have the Masterson Sta-Wet, I have used it twice now. Both times I have let the paint stay in there for some time. The paint got moldy (although I have old acrylic Utretch artist grade paint, so since it is old that might be a factor) and the sponge got a swampy smell. I really didnt enjoy the smell while I was painting. So I cleaned it and havent set it back up. Normally if I'm going to sit down to paint a miniature I paint it in one sitting, otherwise they sit half painted for a while. I use regular parchment paper and slow drying medium if I'm going to be painting for a while.
I like using the Masterson Pallet/sponge + redgrass games small paper available at my local game store. Parchment paper that I've bought have a bit too much silicone in the coating that causes the paint to slide around. At my painting level I'm not very good at gauging paint consistency so using the more textured redgrass games paper really helps me check the flow of paint from my brush.
I literally had an arguement with myself TODAY about whether or not to buy a wet palette. The army painter version is probably perfect for me. Thanks for the thorough review Emil, great video!
Can't believe I haven't seen a review of wet palettes before - good subject, another great vid :)
The RGG one is definitely beyond what I'm willing to spend. I made my own from a small sistema (tupperware-type) container and that has worked well so far. I'm interested in the Army Painter and Masterson ones too. I like the idea of one that lives in my "go box" for mobile use, and another larger one that is at my desk. Good video, I appreciate your run through of what you liked/disliked, thank you!
I bought and love the form of the Army Builder one, my biggest peeve with it is the papers start to curl if i gets too dry, after watching this im considering maybe trying magnets to hold the paper down
Or even weights? Like a plastic coated washer?
time to print some camels and moisten my palette
Dont say "moist", else Miniac will show up.
Moist moist moist moist
I have been using a Masterson Sta-Wet Super Pro, which I originally got to have an air-tight storage for my oil palette between sessions. It's way too big, honestly, but that's a minor thing most of the time.
I agree with you about their paper. You can tell it's meant to keep heavy body acrylics moist without making them runny. It will still keep your paints workable for hours but probably not the next day.
i picked up 2x Masterson palettes ( one after the other ) such cheap construction that they both had domed bottoms to them. so the paint would just run on the paper to the edge and into the sponge. Redgrass on the other hand, exactly what you expected and wanted from a wet palette. price is worth it, you'll only buy it once.
I use a sta-Wet palette and I have been thinking I was using it wrong now I know it's the paper it came with. Thanks Emil you saved me from buying a new palette, now I just need to figure out how to get the citadel paints out of the pots without wasting a bunch.
I use the craft acrylics for larger pieces, so the Masterson seems to be good, but I do like the recommendation for parchment papers when I switch to the miniature paints.
I've got the green stuff world wet pallet and I love it, little bit on the small side but it keeps the paint prefect for me.
Was literally looking to buy a wet palette tomorrow so this video was great!
Dude your on a roll a video last wensday and then Saturday and then now that’s 3 videos in 3 days, great job.
Got myself a redgrass XL on 35% discount, and it's absolutely amazing, but your critique about the seals being too tight is definitely true. It is expensive, but I work at an Element Games, so it was a lot more affordable to me as a result.
Thanks,been looking into getting one. Sta-wet is ~$14cdn and the army painter $36ish cdn with redgrass $65cdn +shipping .....probably the sta-wet for now
Picked up a couple of army painter ones recently, one for home and studio, and they've been great. Would love to try Redgrass at some point. Cheers for the recommendations!
I like my red grass but I bought it because I couldnt find the masterssons, but I did buy the smaller one since its larger than my homemade. I found a very low tupperware and I strongly recommend sandwhich paper instead of parchment (butter paper??) Much better moist to paint (believe Miniac mentioned it as well). But that said I have had far less issues with paints breaking apart in red grass but on that note, they sell the moist-pad and paper seperatly so ... find a good container and usung those is probably the best recommendation from my side.
I have been using the army painter wet palette for the good part of a year now and I really like it, it keeps my paints wet but not too much even over 3 days and the refill hydro packs are pretty cheap, also it comes with a neat second bottom where you can store tools and brushes..only negative for me is indeed the size, sometimes it gets a little crowded on the palette especially if Ia am working on a mini over a longer period or with a lot of colors
I actually use some box that is meant to be used for cheese and wurst for breakfast here in Germany. They are not very high, you can buy them with different hight and stack them. So I have one stack for colors, brushes and wet palettes, which is ideal for the space I have.
Nice vid as always. I'd like to add just one thing: I have the XL Redgrass and I love her but its paper doesn't really work with some brands (for example Scale75 fantasy line). I replaced the paper with parchment and it works like a dream with any paint range I've tried so far
I know it’s really small but a kid that used to come into my hobby store used an old GW grass tuft box and made a wet pallet out of it. It’s a place to start for some.
I've always wanted to try one but I dunno I'm kinda cheap and typically just use a damp kitchen towel and a take out box. Might have to pull the trigger on the Masterson.
I’ve been using my own for a year. Nothing wrong with it at all. Informative video thanks!! 👌🏻😎
If you're making your own, the brand Rosti Mepal have some good sandwich / storage boxes (like the Modula 550) that are quite low profile, and the one I have even has some ridging on the bottom which keeps the moisture level good by accident.
What's the difference between the parchment paper and the redgrass paper? Can you use the redgrass paper in the masterson wet pallette?