I wore a Sub, ref 16610 for twenty years as my daily wearer. LOVED it. Purchased it new in about 1988 for about $1500. In 2008, when I realized its worth, I sold it and it is now replaced with a Steinhart Ocean 39 Black. I really like the Steinie, but that Rolex was truly perfection. I just can't justify walking around with $15k to $20k on my wrist!
I love my 14060. Mine is tritium dial from 1990. These days, it’s my weekender. I rotate between a GMT and a Speedmaster Professional during the week. As far as the fit goes, yes, it’s a bit loose on my wrist. However, as a weekender, when I’m relaxed in an aloha shirt and shorts, the watch being loose and relaxed on my wrist somehow fits. I do rotate out the bracelet every once in a while for a rubber strap from Everest.
Love my two-liner Submariner 14060M. Despite not being "COSC certified", I recently had it serviced at an amazing watch shop in Sapporo and it has been running consistently at -0.1 seconds per day.
I picked out the 14060m 2 liner for a friends 30th birthday. I didn’t want him to feel like he had the same watch as everyone else but there’s just something still a bit special about these pre-ceramics
I think that there is something wrong with a Swiss Made dial on a cal. 3000. The Swiss Made dials were introduced in the 14060M reference with Super Luminova and calibre 3130. Around 2000-01 there was a short “only Swiss” dial run with luminova (not Super) and still calibre 3000.
I have the two liner 14060M as well as the newer ceramic 114060. They are both beautiful in their own way, but I still prefer the pre-ceramic version as it sits better on the wrist and is less 'in your face' than the newer offerings. I think that If Rolex would make the exact same size and case design as the 5 digit version with the same modern build quality and bracelet with the GlideLock clasp it would be an instant hit. They offer the Yacht Master in various sizes so surely they could do the same with the Sub. Rolex was late to the party and introduced larger, bulkier Submariners just when the trend seems to be switching back to smaller more wearable watches! To get a comfortable fit on the 14060 bracelet, I fitted a SteelReef 'EasyLink'. It's wasn't cheap, but it made my 14060M so much more comfortable to wear.
Love the intro For the bracelet those rattle just give it character and it looks good on your wrist. if it makes you happy then you made the right decision congrats bro
Congratulations on your purchase brother, and I must say that you have made a fine choice 👍🏼. I would also like to add that in regards to your complaint with the bracelet getting a bit tight as it does not have an on the fly extension, you should consider Steel Reef. Great video as usual 👌🏽.
I think in the future these will be more rare as most people prefer the Sub Date. I like the way it looks without a date, if you want a date buy a GMT or Datejust!
They made a quite a few number of these (around ~90,000) worldwide as compared to modern subs. On an international scale thats not that many "two-line aluminum bezel" submariners as its production continued until 2007. So starting from 2008 onwards all submariners came with ceramic bezels
Plenty of micro adjustment holes and so easy to adjust the clasp with just a paperclip. I had one of these but switched to a 2010 16610 (very last of the 5 digits). I'm one of the odd ones who prefer the look of the date version. Super beautiful either way.
I've got the 4 liner, which I prefer because I like the thicker block of text, and the engraved rehaut. COSC doesn't mean crap. My watch is about 16 seconds fast, after a service. I loved this watch for a few years, but frankly I'm getting a little bored with it. This watch is all business. Yes it does that job better than any. But it doesn't have much of a fun factor. Which is why Ive been looking a other watches like classic blue Seamaster. Ive been wearing my SKX009 way more than my sub lately. Also my SKX015 is getting a lot of wrist time as well, which looks and feels completely different from the 009 ironically.
I just got into watch collecting. I've loved watches since I was young but I never had anyone teach me or bring deeper into the world. amzwatch brought closer to a community and hobby I always wanted to get into more and that is incredibly meaningful to me !
Not until 2007. The first run, with 3130 calibre weren’t presented for the test so don’t have the 4 lines. But it’s the same watch. (Not the 14060 with calibre 3000)
Considering the Seadweller 16600 or this 14060. Still deciding….Not a fan of the 16610 due to the bulging date cyclops. Had one and sold it after a few months
@@rafaeloliva6425 - Objectively better? Yeah, but it's all about the subjective perspective and how the watch wears. Old submariners had a weight under 100 gram, 14060 weigh around 120 gram and the new ceramic version has a weight of around 160 grams. I can't wear a ceramic sub for a whole day and feel comfortable.
5 number Rolex have a big following and are great watches. The bracelets are the weak point, they are rubbish New solid link with glidelock are far superior
I've upgraded mine with solid links and glidelock, paired with original 501B endlinks. All you need is a permanent link removal tool or go to a watchmaker with one.
@@rafaeloliva6425 that's a ridiculous thing to say, why get a countach instead of an aventador? you drink Rolex cool aid way too much, they're not the only one with high end cnc equipment. There are multiple grades of your so called "junk" lmao. It's just a damn watch
Your rationale for not wanting a current reference Submariner was unclear and lacked logic. How is a new one , more accessible than a 5 digit Submariner. Any 6 digit Submariner is superior to the 5 digit variants in every measurable matrix. Especially as a daily wearer.
@@rafaeloliva6425 Its easier to buy a modern submariner than to find a (clean) vintage or neo-vintage 5 digit submariner. Both versions are good daily wearers
@LocalWatchGuy That might be so wherever it is your at. Their are plenty of 5 digit subs in the south Florida area. While attempting to purchase a current Submariner at any AD is a different proposition. But as a daily wearer any 6 digit Sub is superior in every measurable matrix. 1) There is more adjustability with the tooless glidelock system, than the stamped version on the 5 digit. Which is not what I would find acceptable in a watch at that price point. 2) The ceramic bezel is far superior to fading and scratches prone aluminum bezel on the 5 digit variant. It just holds up better as an everyday watch. 3) The 6 digit bracelets are not the stretch prone hollow links from the 5 digit variants. So apart from the nostalgic adoration you seem to have. The 5 digit Subs are not in the same class as a daily wearer, as the 6 digit subs. If you just have a preference for the older Submariners, that's fine. It's just the rationale you gave at the beginning of your video just did make sense.
Vintage, schmintage -- give me the new Tudor monochrome every day of the week. Better movement, better graphics, better bracelet choices, better clasp, better price . .
I agree with you on the specs but I do worry that if you want a sub, the Tudor won’t cut it after the honeymoon phase. It’s not the sub. It’s one of the tudors I have my eyes on for sure!!! But it’s not the sub.
The simple problem with the Tudor monochrome homage is that it is ugly, especially on the jubilee style bracelet. And that is a lot of money for an homage watch, never mind the movement.
I bought a 14060m two liner earlier this year. no regrets whatsoever! just love the symmetry of the dial.
The symmetrical dial is perfect
I wore a Sub, ref 16610 for twenty years as my daily wearer. LOVED it. Purchased it new in about 1988 for about $1500. In 2008, when I realized its worth, I sold it and it is now replaced with a Steinhart Ocean 39 Black. I really like the Steinie, but that Rolex was truly perfection. I just can't justify walking around with $15k to $20k on my wrist!
I love my 14060. Mine is tritium dial from 1990. These days, it’s my weekender. I rotate between a GMT and a Speedmaster Professional during the week. As far as the fit goes, yes, it’s a bit loose on my wrist. However, as a weekender, when I’m relaxed in an aloha shirt and shorts, the watch being loose and relaxed on my wrist somehow fits. I do rotate out the bracelet every once in a while for a rubber strap from Everest.
Love my two-liner Submariner 14060M. Despite not being "COSC certified", I recently had it serviced at an amazing watch shop in Sapporo and it has been running consistently at -0.1 seconds per day.
I picked out the 14060m 2 liner for a friends 30th birthday. I didn’t want him to feel like he had the same watch as everyone else but there’s just something still a bit special about these pre-ceramics
by the way my 60th birthday is rightaround the corner.......hint......hint 😂
Beautiful watch! The no-date Sub is my favourite watch of all time. I love every version of this watch but the glidelock clasp is a must.
It is indeed a beautiful watch! Thanks for watching.
Gotta love the classics guys😊
100%
I think that there is something wrong with a Swiss Made dial on a cal. 3000. The Swiss Made dials were introduced in the 14060M reference with Super Luminova and calibre 3130.
Around 2000-01 there was a short “only Swiss” dial run with luminova (not Super) and still calibre 3000.
@@danieleswing1648 I got mind boggled with that information🤯
Yep, sorry
Agreed on all points. I am looking now for the exact watch or there about
Hopefully you will find one
I have the two liner 14060M as well as the newer ceramic 114060. They are both beautiful in their own way, but I still prefer the pre-ceramic version as it sits better on the wrist and is less 'in your face' than the newer offerings.
I think that If Rolex would make the exact same size and case design as the 5 digit version with the same modern build quality and bracelet with the GlideLock clasp it would be an instant hit. They offer the Yacht Master in various sizes so surely they could do the same with the Sub.
Rolex was late to the party and introduced larger, bulkier Submariners just when the trend seems to be switching back to smaller more wearable watches!
To get a comfortable fit on the 14060 bracelet, I fitted a SteelReef 'EasyLink'.
It's wasn't cheap, but it made my 14060M so much more comfortable to wear.
@@xmuninu true if Rolex does offer a new 5 digit style submariner, I think it will sell like crazy
Love the intro
For the bracelet those rattle just give it character and it looks good on your wrist. if it makes you happy then you made the right decision congrats bro
@@q8zero Thanks a lot man! I actually love the rattling bracelet... theres just something about it!
Good video, short and to the point. Subscribed. I miss my 14060 - hope you get to keep and enjoy it to for many years.
@@disheuresdis thanks a lot for watching! Glad you enjoyed
Amazing watch man. Thanks for sharing.
No problem 👍. Thanks foe watching.
Does this watch break down under the rain?
Certainly not
Love it. Where did you order it from? Always looking for good vintage dealers. Thanks
A reputable dealer in Switzerland
Great video
@@hamadryas7748 thanks!
Congratulations on your purchase brother, and I must say that you have made a fine choice 👍🏼. I would also like to add that in regards to your complaint with the bracelet getting a bit tight as it does not have an on the fly extension, you should consider Steel Reef. Great video as usual 👌🏽.
@@mdhammad69 thank you very much! Glad you're a fan of the two line submariner and I will definitely check out the steel reef extension!
Where I can get one?
@@yourvidia5815 You can find many online or at reputable shops or vintage watch dealers
I think in the future these will be more rare as most people prefer the Sub Date. I like the way it looks without a date, if you want a date buy a GMT or Datejust!
They made a quite a few number of these (around ~90,000) worldwide as compared to modern subs. On an international scale thats not that many "two-line aluminum bezel" submariners as its production continued until 2007. So starting from 2008 onwards all submariners came with ceramic bezels
Great video, thanks :D
Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed💯
Plenty of micro adjustment holes and so easy to adjust the clasp with just a paperclip. I had one of these but switched to a 2010 16610 (very last of the 5 digits). I'm one of the odd ones who prefer the look of the date version. Super beautiful either way.
I’m going to build me one of those in a few weeks 👍🏼
I've got the 4 liner, which I prefer because I like the thicker block of text, and the engraved rehaut. COSC doesn't mean crap. My watch is about 16 seconds fast, after a service. I loved this watch for a few years, but frankly I'm getting a little bored with it. This watch is all business. Yes it does that job better than any. But it doesn't have much of a fun factor. Which is why Ive been looking a other watches like classic blue Seamaster. Ive been wearing my SKX009 way more than my sub lately. Also my SKX015 is getting a lot of wrist time as well, which looks and feels completely different from the 009 ironically.
I just got into watch collecting. I've loved watches since I was young but I never had anyone teach me or bring deeper into the world. amzwatch brought closer to a community and hobby I always wanted to get into more and that is incredibly meaningful to me !
The last greatest submariner ❤
@@snaan78 I agree💯
The 14060M is certified as a chronometer.
Not until 2007. The first run, with 3130 calibre weren’t presented for the test so don’t have the 4 lines. But it’s the same watch. (Not the 14060 with calibre 3000)
Totally agreed!!!!👍
Considering the Seadweller 16600 or this 14060. Still deciding….Not a fan of the 16610 due to the bulging date cyclops. Had one and sold it after a few months
It's a tough one, you really can't go wrong with either choice.
It’s a classic era Sub but to say it’s better than the 41 is cap, preference sure but no way better.
@sbizzyb
Agreed! Aside from the nostalgic emotions that the vintage Sub guys have. The 6 digit variants are so much better in every measurable matrix.
@@rafaeloliva6425 - Objectively better? Yeah, but it's all about the subjective perspective and how the watch wears. Old submariners had a weight under 100 gram, 14060 weigh around 120 gram and the new ceramic version has a weight of around 160 grams. I can't wear a ceramic sub for a whole day and feel comfortable.
Seems we agree, the 6 digit variants are better watches.
That's just a fact.
The rest is just your preference.
5 number Rolex have a big following and are great watches. The bracelets are the weak point, they are rubbish
New solid link with glidelock are far superior
@@kevins2961 True! The new bracelets are far more superior to the old ones
I've upgraded mine with solid links and glidelock, paired with original 501B endlinks. All you need is a permanent link removal tool or go to a watchmaker with one.
@kevins2961
The clasp are also trash stamped metal.
6 digit Submariner date for me all day.
@tyson8585
Why not just get a 6 digit Sub?
Instead of putting on some after market junk?
@@rafaeloliva6425 that's a ridiculous thing to say, why get a countach instead of an aventador? you drink Rolex cool aid way too much, they're not the only one with high end cnc equipment. There are multiple grades of your so called "junk" lmao. It's just a damn watch
Your rationale for not wanting a current reference Submariner was unclear and lacked logic. How is a new one , more accessible than a 5 digit Submariner.
Any 6 digit Submariner is superior to the 5 digit variants in every measurable matrix.
Especially as a daily wearer.
@@rafaeloliva6425 Its easier to buy a modern submariner than to find a (clean) vintage or neo-vintage 5 digit submariner. Both versions are good daily wearers
@LocalWatchGuy
That might be so wherever it is your at.
Their are plenty of 5 digit subs in the south Florida area. While attempting to purchase a current Submariner at any AD is a different proposition.
But as a daily wearer any 6 digit Sub is superior in every measurable matrix.
1) There is more adjustability with the tooless glidelock system, than the stamped version on the 5 digit. Which is not what I would find acceptable in a watch at that price point.
2) The ceramic bezel is far superior to fading and scratches prone aluminum bezel on the 5 digit variant. It just holds up better as an everyday watch.
3) The 6 digit bracelets are not the stretch prone hollow links from the 5 digit variants.
So apart from the nostalgic adoration you seem to have. The 5 digit Subs are not in the same class as a daily wearer, as the 6 digit subs.
If you just have a preference for the older Submariners, that's fine. It's just the rationale you gave at the beginning of your video just did make sense.
Vintage, schmintage -- give me the new Tudor monochrome every day of the week. Better movement, better graphics, better bracelet choices, better clasp, better price . .
I agree with you on the specs but I do worry that if you want a sub, the Tudor won’t cut it after the honeymoon phase. It’s not the sub. It’s one of the tudors I have my eyes on for sure!!! But it’s not the sub.
The simple problem with the Tudor monochrome homage is that it is ugly, especially on the jubilee style bracelet. And that is a lot of money for an homage watch, never mind the movement.
If you're going to get a Rolex knock off, save your money and get a Pagani.
No such thing as a ”submariner no date”, either submariner or submariner date. Congrats on the piece though
Thanks for watching!
We know, we all know, but thanks for reminding us 🙄
@@aberdeendeltaforce if you say so, the title begs to differ though.
@@AR-hw9zi yes we know that too 🙄
@@aberdeendeltaforce you must be top of your class!