I Finally Got My Hands On a Rolex! | Rolex Submariner 14060
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- This is a quick review of my friend's Rolex Submariner (reference 14060), and how seeing this watch has affected my general attitude and thoughts about Rolex and vintage Rolex is particular.
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Can we talk about how insane Elizabeth’s editing is?!?!
Britt, you are always so kind and supportive, I really appreciate it.
BTW, I really enjoyed your "how much youtube paid me...' video the other day. I think it's good to let people peek behind the curtain a little bit.
@@elizabeth_grant You are good. Aesthetic sense. High production value. An artist's sensibility which ties into appreciating the aesthetic of fine watches. People watch a video like yours and take its production value for granted because many videos produced to the public are professionally created. The person in the video isn't the editor. To do it all...respect. Hard work and time consuming.
Thanks Luke!
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Oh she is really great.
And this is what is so special about a watch passed on by a beloved family member. Love, memory and time.
Your watch looks new because it’s been well serviced. It has a Swiss made service dial which is a replacement for the Tritium dial it originally came with. You can tell service dials because of the half size markers at 28,29,31,32. The bezel is also a service replacement because it does not have a flat 4 at 40 and usually when a service dial is fitted the bezel will be swapped also. This is why the watch appears as new. Lovely piece. Vintage is probably better for you because all of the modern watches with solid bracelets and solid end links are 2x heavier which your unlikely to enjoy. Service a watch like this (as your example has been) and it will outlast you. Superb item.
So much to learn.
It is a very nice watch, I would point out though with vintage Rolex if service dials, hands & bezels are fitted it does negatively effect the value of the watch
Don’t walk around here in London with that on show…guarantee you won’t have it by the end of the day ..🤷♂️sad but true..love your channel by the way
1) great watch, 2) no date 3) London is pretty safe actually. Love the pre ceramic sub, in fact a no date aluminum is a bit of a grail of mine.
London key areas not particular safe for high end watches. Same as most major cities.
My father had a gold Rolex Datejust which he bought in the early 60’s. My mother nearly strangled him because he bought it instead of a house. Since his passing, my brother wears it and it looks like new. Amazing devices, Rolex.
In fact at the time (60s up to end 90s) Rolexs were quite affordable, in the 60s they costed about 1.5/2 weeks of median salary income.
@@johnmuthan286 in the US
I have the two line 14060M. No cyclops, no pretentious ROLEX all around the rehaut and no unnecessary print on the face. Understated and simple but always recognizable.
Yes! I can confirm that these Submariners are tough! They last a lifetime. I bought my submariner when I was 27, I'm now 70. The last service was about 8 years ago and when it came back the accuracy was about +1 per day. It's in excellent condition, there's a scratch or crack at the 10 o clock when I was caring for my mom: when she fell while using her walker, I rushed & managed to grab her before she fell onto the ground - I knocked my wrist (the submariner) against a wall hard. I've other watches so part of the reason for it's good condition is I've usually worn the others. So, have no concerns for anyone who is thinking of getting a submariner.
Agreed you will not find a more robust watch. There is a story about a fisherman that lost his Bluesy sub in the Pacific Ocean. More than one year later it was recovered by a diver. It had barnacles growing on it. Miraculously it was still working and keeping time after a few shakes.
Very durable compared to a tag heuer as mine it’s bezel broke off as I got swept up by water at the beach
The Two Liner Submariner (16040) is a beautiful watch the dial is clean without to much text on it and the size is just right, it is also a perfect blend between the vintage Submariners and the new Submariners. I have had one since 2014 and have worn it a lot, mine is from 1991. I like vintage Rolex much more than the new stuff.
I have my dad's 1981 day/date President. It still runs about +2 per day. It was his daily wear. It has few nicks and the bracelet is quite "jangly". It doesn't get a lot of wrist time (a bit austentatious for a country parson), but it is a joy to wear. It feels so solid. The 36mm case is perfect and actually helps downplay the gold. Dad's still alive and is glad to know the watch is still being worn. Rolex has s something about it that lies beyond price or status. I hope you find that perfect Rolex.
I really appreciate the no “BS” approach to your videos and reviews.
Elizabeth, the 5 digit subs and all other Rolex models (typically those made prior to 2009 or 2010) are a sweet spot for me as well. Currently I believe they are the best models in terms of looks and wearability from the GMT Master II, to the Sub Date, to the Explorer II. I have an approx 7 inch oval shaped wrist and the new ones are a little ungainly on my wrist. Still I own some of the new ones because they're beauties as well. But I find myself wearing them less and less. As usual your assessment is right on. I'd love to see you get your hands on more and more Rolex models to see if your observations are consistently parallel to my own.
Rolex are the best tool watches, but not the best watch. Plus, people who get one only tell stories about how they got it, leaving the actual watch coming a distant second place.
Pre-ceramic neo vintage Rolex also represents comparatively good value. Especially the 14060 models. These weren't affected by the over hyped prices of the newer models.
You won't regret picking up a 16710. Best daily wear watch on the planet. They only got bigger and heavier and harder to wear after that. And more flashy. Whether that's "better" is highly debatable. Plus 5 digit Rolex work on a NATO or leather. The new stuff absolutely does not. 6 digit stuff looks ungainly on anything other than the bracelet
If you service and take good care of any watch, it will last a lifetime. I’m 60 years old. On my wrist right now is a 1982 Seiko 7A28 speed timer. It’s been serviced twice and had the gasket replaced. I bought it new when I was 19. It’s still beautiful and looks like I bought it last year. If you take care of your passion, it will be with you as long as you’d like it to be.
The lack of text looked SO much better. Beautiful.
I am saving up for a 124060 sub. The main reason for going for the newest Sub is mainly that I want a Submariner that only I have worn, but also because of the technical specifications.
I tried on a red Submariner in a store, and I really liked it. Older Subs have a certain undeniable functional charm, but I definately prefer the modern more reliable bracelet.
Elizabeth is going to buy a vintage Rolex Submariner in 3…2…1…. My now “vintage” Rolex Submariner 16610 is easily my most worn watch.
We'll see.
Your vid came up on my feed. Never heard of your channel and Im blown away by this vid. You did a superb job and the editing is just fantastic.
Thank you!
Beautiful watch. I prefer the less busy dials of the older Rolexes. I have an Omega Seamaster Calendar from 1958 that I picked up last year, and it runs about +2 seconds a day which really surprised me. If a well built watch is taken care of, it will last more than a lifetime. Thank you for another great video.
Very nice!
3:51 in and iv already thrown on my grandfathers 16610 due to this video, people have tried to put into perspective the difference between the 5 digit subs and super cases but tbh this is the exact sentiment iv been thinking for over 4 years now!
Nice to hear a fresh prospective. To date the watch you don't need to remove the case back, remove the bracelet, the serial & model number will be stamped between the lugs. 14060 used letter codes that you can look up which year they are associated. Keeping in mind, back in the 90's these could have been manufactured years before actually being sold. I have this reference, a year 2000
Thanks for the info!
The 14060 is such an awesome watch. The size is perfect and the minimal dial text just killed it in design!
It's always special when one gets to handle a well loved and cared for timepiece. Only a great friend would provide this kind of pleasure; a classic beauty, it looks great on your wrist!
Very enjoyable listen Elizabeth
I love how you show the lightning bolt when you talk about shock resistance, even though shock resistance in a watch refers to its ability to survive a drop or certain amount of G forces. Very funny. I love your channel! 😊😊❤
Thanks for noticing!
No date subs are the epitome of less is more. Truly elegant but ever functional. Great review Elizabeth!
Excellent video. I'm not sure about the Omega, mine isn't old either but taken care of correctly, the Grand Seiko will definitely look just as good. I have an heirloom from my grandfather, a 1967 GS 6146-8000 hi-beat with gold cap finish. 56 years old! He told me he only wore it for weddings and funerals! He left it to me and it's absolutely scratch free and works perfectly. I had it serviced a while ago and the Seiko service guy said it was incredibly good for its age. I heard that 36,000 of them were produced to match the bph, but I'm not totally sure of that. I follow the tradition and only wear it for weddings, but not funerals. Lol. I'm not sure of the value of a pristine one like this but I do keep it in a bank deposit box for safekeeping. I suppose any quality watch you take care of can look good in 100 years!
Yeah, the Grand Seiko should hold up well.
Give it to her, Rachel!
Do you find you need to wind the watch frequently? I have the same model, love it.
Your videos are always superb! I love my no date ceramic sub, the bracelet is the best in the biz… But I also love these pre-ceramic versions and I think these look better on natos and straps than the current model. The smaller case size works better with these configurations imo.
Fear not. Omega will hold up very well after many years. I have one from 1944 (yes, not mispelled) plus my Seamaster 300, and life is good with them both!
ah yes but you always hanker after a Rolex (hence watching a Rolex video) when you have an Omega. They are great watches also, but Rolex just more special, i had a few Omegas now have 3 Rolex i love them.
@@leekindell9937 Not really, I love all watch brands, but omega and Rolex are the same, that will be especially the case when omega upgrades all their watches with their new movement, beating Rolex current movements.
@@leekindell9937 wrong. I love watches in general (not saying Omega is better than Rolex or viceversa) and I try to watch most of Elisabeth’s videos for the cool content.
Great shot after great shot in this video , great video, content , her great friend and, well...Elizabeth the Great !
had the same ref., bought for 3,500, sold for over 8k a few years back, I regred it every day since 😅
Beautiful timepiece. Sometimes, the charm lies within the old. Nice share! I'll have to rethink my strategy as well. Cheers.
Nice video Elizabeth!
Im last type of in Rolex involved people. I really like some of them, mostly divers watches. Maybe one day I will buy one but Im not convinced yet. Im not coz in all my heart which is full of love to watches, with all of it, I hate this brand for marketing reasons, and coz people that buys them, do it just to flex. Rolex in my eyes is just a synonim of missing taste and is really good in it. For me whole package is really important, and I cant be happy with something that's have no respect to me , just cant let it be. And with Rolex I have this filling. I can easy buy one in aftermarket for triple price , but I have my watch love and want it to work in two directions. Lucky me there is many brands that are happy to see my money.
Great video! In the mid-90’s, I was in college & my friends & I used to occasionally smoke cigars. The guy in the cigar store had a Sub just like that, and it was about that time I became “watch-aware”. That’s THE Rolex, as far as I’m concerned.
That is awesome!
The pre ceramic sub date is perfect IMO. Great video covering this amazing watch!
How am I only finding out about this channel now? Glad I eventually did though, great work Elisabeth!
"This is why people who don't care a wit about status still end up buying a Rolex" Nailed it. The 5 digit stuff still has that old magic.
And personally I love the older lighter bracelets. They are still 10x tougher than my arm, why do I need a heavier modern bracelet that is 20x tougher? Especially since that added weight means it NEEDS glidelock to stay comfortably in place. Heavier does not = better. These old partially hollow bracelets were good enough to be people's war watches. They're good enough for my desk diving haha
The only things on the grand seiko and your omega that won't hold up like the Sub is the crystal, both crystals have AR coating, Rolex doesn't use it. So conceivably the AR coating could flake, however changing a crystal is more or less child's play. Omega also uses gold indices in most models and your 9F grand seiko movement is hermetically sealed and has a silly 50+ year service interval.
Rolex uses ARC on the underside of most models now. I don't think any Rolexes use ARC on the topside though. My 5yo Omega Planet Ocean had lots of scratches on the ARC I prefer watches that only have ARC on the underside.
I thought only the Submariner now has ar coating underneath the crystal? I'm used to seeing most of their models without it, which always made the dial look really cloudy and I hated it. If they finally put ar on the underside then that's a huge change.
@@thegorn Interesting, I thought all rolexes had no AR coating for longevity. I don't pay a bunch of attention to the brand because the lack of supply puts them out of reach. Thanks
I've got a seamaster. The crystals look great but you really gotta watch them. The AR scratches.
That's a beautiful reference in amazing condition.
It's gorgeous.
Got my 1986 16800 new then; $1300. Great watch and I've worn it everyday since. Even diving with it once in Grand Caymen in 1987. Been serviced twice. It's iconic.
Elizabeth, you are my one favorite TH-cam watch channel. I simply love the visuals on your videos. especially the perfect amount of lifestyle and macro shots of the watches you're covering, which are especially helpful when deciding if a watch is right for oneself. Not to mention the occasional gags. 😂I can relate to everything I heard from you so far and I just can feel how much personal your takes are. Looking forward to more of your videos!
Thanks so much 😊
I am pretty sure that the 14060 later models did not have a tritium dial . Also I think that 14060M is just that bit better as it has a chronometer certified movement but still only has the two lines of script.
I was in a similar spot and off loaded some midrange pieces, bought a 5 digit Submariner and then got the call for a new one. Go for the 5 dig
Nice piece, tight edit. Good job.
Thank you!
Ten points for the tennis sweater.
I think a late model 5513 would look stunning on your wrist...
I gave my dad a 14060M . He wears the heck out of it. It makes me happy every time I see him wearing it.
Your take is spot on.
Sub looks great on your wrist. My modern Subs are too big for my wife. Keep making content please.
How serendipitous that your friend happened to be gifted such an outstanding watch. And the condition? Obviously not worn much. Maybe special occasions? On the one hand, the condition is a plus while on the other hand, isn't it a shame your friend's grandfather didn't enjoy the wearing of it as much as he could have? And as a lover of patina, I wonder what it might have looked like if he had. So glad you got it onto your wrist! Please keep us updated on your Rolex search and/or if you get close to the top of the waiting lists. Perhaps a certified, pre-owned example is in your future? Great video, keep it up!
Yeah, sadly it doesn't sound like her grandfather go this money's worth out of it. Hopefully she wears it and makes her own memories as she lives her life with it on her wrist
Wow, that piece is in great condition for its age. What a gift your friend has there.
Hi El,
What is interesting is there are many Rolex haters but they utilize Rolex as the standard to beat. I personally like Rolex. Thank you for the video.
Interesting!
Love the watch and video. I am collecting my first Rolex, submariner, this Friday. Also love the name, which was also my late mums. ❤❤
Excellent video! This type of Submariner is my favorite - The proportions are close to perfect. I got my uncle's old Sub as a gift many years ago but it was in horrendous condition because he wore it constantly (also during rock climbing). However it was basically as good as new after Rolex serviced it, I do miss the old tritium dial though (oh well). Anyway this gave me absolute confidence that this watch will last basically forever as long as it gets properly serviced.
Also your editing is getting really good - I'm happily expecting to see epic TGV-style intros in your videos very soon! :P
You need not worry about how long that watch will last. My Omega Stainless Seamaster Auto is a 1949 (same as me), and runs very well, losing about a minute a week. It is still in beautiful condition, and I have owned it for about 45 years.
Thanks for the info!
Great vid from a level we can all understand. And a refrence like that is definately in an affordable level, or can at least be found. If you have a trusted independant watchmaker that brings the risks and the costs down even further.
This reference looks and wears very well. The basic dial goes much better without cyclops, date window and texts.
Great video per usual Elle! Idk how I was not subbed until today? Then again I mostly watch TH-cam not signed in. Anyways great video on older Rolex, they are quite nice and have an old school charm to them. Love the older models that I have!
Thanks for subbing!
If you don’t investigate and explore Rolex models! Then your appreciation and knowledge, becomes dormant!
Great perspective - love your candor!
Thanks so much!
Those neo vintage references are a real treat. What they lack in shiny ceramic bling they make up for in really charming, balanced mid century proportions.
If you’re looking down the homage route, ginault makes a pretty brilliant if not morally questionable five digit sub.
it’s not just old Rolexes that are quite accurate! I have a Longines from 1957 which amazingly runs at -2 seconds a day!
Fun vid! It's a truly great watch. I have a Sub Ref. 5513 that has a plexiglass bezel and is about the same age as me (55). I bought it a few years after starting and surviving in my first business about 30 years ago. I have enjoyed it ever since.
Very cool!
Super nice Rolex, your friend is very trusting.
No doubt!
I think this video hits upon a theme that's becoming more and more apparent over time; that there's an era of watches (let's broadly call it "the 90s"), where watches were modernised to a degree that today's wearers can appreciate what they offer... yet they aren't the kind of all singing, all dancing models of today. They feel like classic cars that have been updated with some modern conveniences. People are starting to see this more and more with the Omega Seamaster 2531.80.00, for example. Great watch, but smaller than many modern Seamasters, and with a movement that's easy for any watchmaker to work on. So it feels classic, but looks great on wrist in 2023. And there are other watches with that vibe. This Rolex being one of them.
My seamaster is the last one right before they switched to the full inhouse 8800 coaxial movement. So the last seamaster with the 2500. Mine is like 1mm smaller and slightly thinner but wears worlds better.
@@claytonberg721 that's a really nice watch to have. And over the next 5-10 years, like the one I cited, more watch people will cotton onto.
That's exactly why I have both an Omega seamaster 2255.80 and chronomat blackbird A13353 next to my sinn 556a. They are the embodiment if neo vintage you cam daily if you really want It.
There was definitely a sweet spot not so long ago.
@@HaveYouSeen I bought it new when the current model was released, so I got it at a good discount. It's steadily gone up in value. Not a rolex like increase but a very healthy one for an omega.
The best Sub ; no frills and all effective
Great video. Good luck on the waitlist. I was on a waitlist, forgot about it, and got a call after 8 months. It’s worth the wait, but the addiction that comes with it 😬
Great review Elizabeth and your video editing is fantastic! I like the craftsmanship of a Rolex but not a fan of the company itself.
I'm older. I miss this era when you could just buy a Rolex for an everyday fair price. Rolex is a horrible company now IMO for allowing their ADs to get out of control. I hope the next downturn in luxury goods (it's coming) affects Rolex disproportionately badly.
Greatly prefer the ceramic sub, but that pre-ceramic looks nice.
Very nice indeed It Will look after you if you look after it. I have the 5digit 16600 since 2002 still working perfect. You. Can always put a Everest strap on Great channel
Cool, thanks
The best I can narrow it down to is between 2001-2002.
Here are some giveaways:
- 1999/2000 had a "swiss" only dials, this one is "swiss made"
- 2003 got ride of the lug holes on the side of the case
- If you remove the bracelet and look at the first letter of the serial number it'll probaby say K or Y. K for 2000/2001 and Y for 2002!
Grandpa should have given lessons on taking care of his watch! Great episode
Ah, I love this episode, "The one with the watch." Thank Rachel for me!!
Awesome video of an awesome watch ! Fantastic editing !
I think this is the 14060m with the 3130 movement
Referring to a 90’s Rolex as having “old world charm” made me feel about 2000yrs old.
Lastly, I had my 16610 up for sale and after seeing this you made me fall back in love with it and I decided to keep it!
Aegler makes good movements, including the one in the video. Rolex purchased movements from Aegler for it's watches until 2004 when they purchased Aegler.
Love a review of a vintage watch rather than all the new stuff.
I keep looking at a 16800, I’d go for a vintage every day over brand new
I agree, the 5 digit sub is the one I want. Also looks good on a NATO strap
Get one like mine. A 14060m from 2006. The movement is 3130. I still wear it and it truly is a work horse. The 2006 is the last bit with 2 lines and not 4 lines of text. It also does it have the signed Renault which I like better. The signed rehabilitation always makes me think of an Invicta. The 2 liners for 06 have the same movement as the maxi case and although it COSC certified I can tell you it would pass easy. In any case I bought mine in 06 and glad I still have it and wear it. Best of luck to you in your watch journey.
Absolutely bonkers editing, congratulations. And you're so right about the size and proportions; much better than the maxi cases; nice and dainty, but still tough, indestructible. Love the simplicity. I'm wondering if a 14060 might suit you more than a 114270. If you like the vintage vibe, why not look at the 16570 too, the old Polar Exp II that has just the same dimensions? If I lived nearby I'd loan you mine just to see what synaesthetic confection you'd conjure up, but I'm in the UK, so quite impossible alas. Finally, I dig the cricket jumper you're rocking but don't recognise the club?
Funny (maybe a little painful??) to hear someone talk about a watch from the 90’s as having “old world charm” and thinking that the watch is old(er). But I get what you are saying. I have a 1965 Datejust and I like those older features as well - pie pan dial, acrylic crystal, engine-turned bezel, etc. Great video.
Yeah, This watch might be older than I.
@@elizabeth_grant a popular thing among vintage Rolex collectors is finding and acquiring a “birth year” watch. I was thinking that could very well be one for you.
@@matthewbrotman2907 yeah, I didn’t mention that, but that is why I got a ‘65 Datejust.
Vintage(ish) subs are way more cooler than the current models, I am an OP man myself so love the time only symmetry of this watch it also wears smaller and has less “look at me” going on
Totally agree!
This is an $800 tool watch with a huge markup for Luxury Branding and subsequent Veblen Good status. I have owned a few through the years and that era always felt tinny and cheap due to the clasp. As i bought and sold and traded many watches, I am now in my 50s and look past the branding to see that Rolex are just another stainless steel tool watch. My higher end Seikos and COSC Ball Engineer Hydrocarbon chronograph are just as nice as the older Rolex and Omegas I owned. The newer Rolex clasp and bezels are a nice upgrade, but there are many other watch companies making great watches that match quality but not the prestige.
But I will concede that the price you pay for a Rolex IS WORTH THE PRICE from a resale perspective if you can get it for MSRP. I never lost a dime on any I sold, but the markups today on secondary market are insane.
I could see you wearing a polar explorer EG . nice watch Rachael - think about a 'service' - do not allow them to change original parts . ~ JDS/CT
Great video ! Come by the office sometime we can show you some Rolex watches vintage or modern
I just got way too excited over seeing my Grand Seiko in the intro! Ha!
Nothing like the first time you see a sub in the wild. I was walking along my high street in the Uk. A local jewellery shop had one. The also had a explorer 2. 😮my face
Looks in great condition, I've been tempted by the older subs but they have either not been looked after or the dealer wants rediculous money, which i'd prefer to get a newer one that will need less tlc or a blue or green version that looks a bit less generic.
There is no
Wimbledon dial
White date just. All Wimbledon dials come in slate grey with either white or yellow gold hands
Now that's a good friend!
Indeed!
If you’re taking suggestions for the next watch you should look at can I suggest the longines master collection (annual calendar and chronograph)
I too am on a waiting list for either a Yachtmaster or Submariner, having never purchased one before, i'm not too sure if i'll get one, but i'm hoping so.
I have a vintage explorer and the latest explorer and you would not know that my Vintage Explorer was 50 years old as it looks and shine like new with looks of looking after
My personal opinion on Rolex is that they are overpriced and over hyped. Yes, they're a good watch, but I think they lack something. I actually own one but can't wear it. It has a 32mm case in rose gold with a lighter gold dial. My Grear great grandfather gave it to my great grandmother on the 20th of June of 1930. I know that because it's engraved on the back. I have to admit that it is special because it is a Rolex, but what truly makes it special is how it makes me feel connected to these two people. That is what is magic about watches, and I'm sure, for your friend, The thing that makes it special for her is that connection it will always have to a great man in her life.
Class is permanent, simple, that’s a beauty.
agreeed....prefer small case too!
I have lots of nice divers. Don't have a Rolex yet. This is the one I would buy. Really like the older models . The question is.......what would I sell to fund another expensive watch? Kind of at the sell one, buy one now.
Congratulations ❤
Good morning Elle - really good to see you back on-line and your take on this classic Rolex was very informative (as always) and entertaining. It is really fun to see your passion for watches (and life) come thru in your videos and it makes me smile. Love this Rolex and the few Rolex watches I own are a bit obscure but so very cool..... A Turn-O-Graph (just so cool) - an Oyster Quartz (two tone) and an Oyster Perpetual with Arabic numbers (my poor man's Explorer) - the "new stuff" just does not do it for me. Anyway - I REALLY hope your buddy will sell you this watch someday as you would really honor the memory of her dearly departed relative. Good work on the short vid on Longines also - hard to understand why that Brand is not more popular... I actually bought the no-date Legend Diver that TGV reviewed on his channel..... Yeah - I didn't "over-pay" for that one at all..... Keep up the good work - not surprising the Gringa is a fan... You - she and Jenni are all just class acts and way better than most of the guys.....
Wow, and oyster quartz. Now that's a watch people don't talk enough about!
I really like the Legend diver though I wonder about the lugs and my wrist.
Thank you so ,ich for the kind words.
Is it just me or was that bezel misaligned like. $300 Seiko?
Without wanting to speak for Elizabeth, I think the dial is set 1 click to the right throughout (most of) the video. This rather than being actually misaligned.
Yeah this was my fault, I just didn't notice. I wasn't wearing my glasses much this week.
Love this review. I have several vintage and new Rolex watches and it made me happy to watch someone who is truly appreciating the brand. You should buy an older Sub. It looks good on you. Subscribed.😊