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Well you put ret in very easy but it’s actually hard because it’s weaker than all the “hard” specs above it. Making it competitively harder. Since you would have to put way more effort and play perfect to attain the dps and control over the game than a dk, feral, rogue etc. Would take to get as many results. If the ret doesn’t cc perfectly and burst perfectly he will half the time not force any major cooldowns and therefor be harder.
I played most Melee Dps specs and Havoc has been the hardest for me, I don't know why. I guess cause its just squishy and has basically no defensives compared to others while being a glass cannon. you have to play it well or you get blasted.
You can either get "better blizzplates" which is a nameplate addon, or get a weakaura that does the same but will only anchor to certain nameplate addons or base UI
Ive been watching your videos and implementing many things learned. While I feel I am improving at the game, tell me why my rating seems worse now than at any point throughout my time playing the game?
Same here. I can't get kills if i dont chain a stun and a fear on the healer, the dalage is not high enough. Any dps can do better than us and quite easily. Before making such a shitty video maybe go check the top 100 players in 2v and 3v, you'll count a few warriors. Meanwhile, feral and rogues dominate everywhere
I feel like what you told about fury is not correct at all. The rotation is pretty easy and the damage is good however going into higher ranks you absolutely need to know perfectly what opponent to focus and when to push and when to hold back. People focus on fury and if you don’t be patient or jump in to fast you will get stun locked and killed very easy. You just hold new fury players back by not mentioning how important positions is as a fury player. People think they can just jump into every group and destroy them but this is not reality facing better players in higher ranks. Fury warriors are highly vulnerable to cc and their main sustain comes from leech which is not active when cc(ed). Focusing the correct target is also an extremely important thing for fury warriors bc if you mess this up you are in trouble. Looking at the higher tier pvp ranking you can clearly see fury is falling off rapidly and this is bc of the things I mentioned above. Sure fury is easy when playing pubs and low ranked but if you really want to help people out climbing then acting like fury is easy is surely the wrong way
Jo i made a 70 dk… just started to 80 wanted play unholy. I didnt rly like the ghouls and heard frost is a bit easier… so I respecc but i only have 3 attack buttons now… will it get a bit more later at least? 😂
Frost Mage main, Feral alt here. Feral is not a difficult spec to play, buy any means. It's had its moments of being squishy and easy to take down, but in this current patch of TWW, it's actually super easy. Bleed everything and maintain them. You're basically an Aff lock with a tanky form.
Same I play shaman/druid/mage/rogue and idk why people still put Feral in the S tier difficulty. The only hard part is how you use cyclone as melee, but all the rest is nothing hard.
> “bleed everything and maintain them” > 100k dps Yk you have to snapshot bleeds properly and also manage your builders sequence so you don’t drown in energy?
Did this video just say Fury is one of the strongest specs? Wow skill capped must have fallen way way way down since I last used it, because that's cap as hell.
you can stop watching after placing unholy in hard tier and fury in very easy after all this nerfs...fury cant cleave if there are no 3 targets you cant do dmg if you get kited perma slowed,you have to do 15% less dmg to stay in defense stance,cause you get focused every game after all this ''guides''(dunno if there is another class that have to do less dmg to take less dmg).yet ret and unholy top dmg meter all game(unholy is unkillable literally) they do all their dmg from range so you will never have downtime even if yo uget kited,ret has an 8 sec immunity that let healers recover in which you can still do full dmg and its only easy because you have to press the utility buttons(you can never press utility buttons and still do better that fury) and unholy gets HARD because apparetly pressing focus gnaw is harder that pressing focus storm bolt....
Puting assa in mid and Dk on hard is a disrespect. So many things you have to set up with assa to really do any impactful damage. Also you are the squishier rogue
@@krauserinsegundo4851 clearly don’t know how to play a assa rogue….🤯 I’m a heal main: it’s a reason it’s rough with a assa in your lobby: but I guess. You and the other 4 🙂↔️
@@t.ydunston2251 I have the Skill capped add on setup… it doesn’t do that fancy thing. I’m pretty sure it’s a weak aura. If you happen to discover what it is, please do tell. I’ll try to find that video. Thanks.
@@zacharybryant3865 I will look when I get on later because I’ve found some of theses. It’s been a long time but I think I use like “kui” name plates or something that helped
Nonsense. As a dk you're basically running a target down doing hella dam. As a ret you're worrying about your own team as well as supporting your own team. Ret are almost always the kill target as well. Same with a dh.
I can only talk about frost since I don't play unholy, but frost is mostly useful because of his setup potential. Of course the dmg is good, but to take your example you can often use grip/blinding sleet/AMZ/ice chains or strangulate in order to peel your team mates while putting damage. And you won't ever kill without a good setup. I guess that's why it's "hard", that's absolutely not only about "running a target down". In fact that is the easiest part.
@@CovenantAgentLazarus its an 8 second defensive on a 2 minute cooldown that can only be utilized in melee range bloodthirst basically can only be used 3 times in this window? what are you on about
@@CovenantAgentLazarus As a surv hunt main soon as I see it I just hit em with frost trap and leave them to cool down and then kill them soon as they get out. Def doable. If they trink it then hit em with a stun and go invis and kill them after I its over anyway. Surv is hard to play and will def humble you cause it has so much utility and option to play with but once you master it there is not much you can not out play. Surv is weak to dots tho but you can also outplay casters quite easily.
Bruh enh has a scuffed rotation, the worst mobility in the game, no mortal strike, low survivability, no reliable stun, average damage and by the the lowest reward to effort. And you put it only in hard 😂
@@CovenantAgentLazarus says the dude with no brain cells. I didn’t say they needed mobility. I said they have less than enhance. Please focus next time
@@CovenantAgentLazarus You clearly know nohing about the game bro, so atleast try to be polite. DK is indeed recognized as a complete no mobility class, having grisps doesn't chance anything about that special weakness.
@@cassiopee5516Absolutely it does. DK can just pull everyone in slow everyone by a lot and are considered a counter to casters while also having solid tankiness. Meanwhile Enhance stare at casters while they get rooted and go make a coffee before they can get to them. While having hardly any CC other than a Hex which has a CD can't be used on Druids and can be dispelled and a stun totem which can be avoided.
DH is so easy, lol, so easy that there are DH everywhere above 2100. We're literally surrounded by this easy class, easy to play and easy to climb with. Or maybe all DH players are just too stupid to succeed with such a simple class, while all the Feral and DK players must have PhDs and be geniuses to climb so effortlessly ?
@@gabemaurer4969 You're right, I'm sure lining up 4 buffs, each with a 5-second duration and taking a GCD to activate, is way simpler than anything else. It's not like we have to do the hardest thing in the world, which is pressing Anti-Magic Shield to be immune to everything during our burst, and stick to the enemy the whole time-oh wait, we have Death Grip to pull them back without moving an inch... oh wait, that's not Demon Hunter!
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Well you put ret in very easy but it’s actually hard because it’s weaker than all the “hard” specs above it. Making it competitively harder. Since you would have to put way more effort and play perfect to attain the dps and control over the game than a dk, feral, rogue etc. Would take to get as many results. If the ret doesn’t cc perfectly and burst perfectly he will half the time not force any major cooldowns and therefor be harder.
I am once again asking for BG Blitz educational content to help us climb the ladder
play objectives
focus healers and chain cc them
max your fking dps since nowdays its basically a m+ 🤣
It is pretty straight forward. You just have to really hope to be on a team that knows what they're doing....they can be pretty far between....
bgs are braindead easy, no need to clogup arena content with that
Open your map everytime, i’m always playing soloq blitz and it’s super important see how enemies is moving
😂 🤡
Enhancement has to go in the very hard tier for now. The things you have to do to be somewhat relevant, it's absolutely nuts.
As a 37yo, super casual, 0 talent pvp’er, I really appreciate these vids.
Ret is the most easy melee to play . Because you press esc then logout and you click on your warlock .
Then go back on your Ret when everyone is fixated on you.
zandalari ret with full conquest gear, gl bro, gl my boy had 2-3 full heals.
@@Theqila1242Ret is also a super common kill target, especially in the comps they play in
Yalls videos are my favorite on TH-cam
I played most Melee Dps specs and Havoc has been the hardest for me, I don't know why. I guess cause its just squishy and has basically no defensives compared to others while being a glass cannon. you have to play it well or you get blasted.
Same with my Fury Warrior. 632 ilvl and I train something and never do much damage to it. I also get destroyed when other classes target me.
Fair assessment of fury.
sincerely fury main
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what in the actual fuck is this unbearable mess of clutter. They really need to dial it back
2:49 what is the addon that makes different colour arrows appear on top of the heads of his teammates?
You can either get "better blizzplates" which is a nameplate addon, or get a weakaura that does the same but will only anchor to certain nameplate addons or base UI
First tier list I’m 100% agree
How is assass rogue same as arms warrior, excuse me?
@@kerkertrandov459why not?
@@304enjoyer3 because warrior is so simple and easy u just mash the buttons while assass rogue is a rogue
Those frost dk damage numbers are the definition of a cluttered UI, holy, how can someone play with this
Ive been watching your videos and implementing many things learned. While I feel I am improving at the game, tell me why my rating seems worse now than at any point throughout my time playing the game?
Because you're more worried about ratings now than just enjoying pvp. I know because I'm in a similar situation...
Because it’s the first season of a new expansion G. There’s soft caps on rating in many brackets. You’re fighting gladiators at like 1800.
Yea on that Ench shaman thing... That was supposed to be very hard.
I must be playing Fury wrong. I do half the DPS as classes like WW or MM.
Same here. I can't get kills if i dont chain a stun and a fear on the healer, the dalage is not high enough. Any dps can do better than us and quite easily. Before making such a shitty video maybe go check the top 100 players in 2v and 3v, you'll count a few warriors. Meanwhile, feral and rogues dominate everywhere
thx team ! we were waiting this from you
I feel like what you told about fury is not correct at all. The rotation is pretty easy and the damage is good however going into higher ranks you absolutely need to know perfectly what opponent to focus and when to push and when to hold back. People focus on fury and if you don’t be patient or jump in to fast you will get stun locked and killed very easy. You just hold new fury players back by not mentioning how important positions is as a fury player. People think they can just jump into every group and destroy them but this is not reality facing better players in higher ranks. Fury warriors are highly vulnerable to cc and their main sustain comes from leech which is not active when cc(ed). Focusing the correct target is also an extremely important thing for fury warriors bc if you mess this up you are in trouble. Looking at the higher tier pvp ranking you can clearly see fury is falling off rapidly and this is bc of the things I mentioned above. Sure fury is easy when playing pubs and low ranked but if you really want to help people out climbing then acting like fury is easy is surely the wrong way
This is true (knowing your opponents well) for high rated pvp period, no matter what class you play
So with deflation if im 2k in ss rn and the literal ceiling is 2300 am i given a skillcapped refund by default? 😅
Nice excel gameplay
Jo i made a 70 dk… just started to 80 wanted play unholy. I didnt rly like the ghouls and heard frost is a bit easier… so I respecc but i only have 3 attack buttons now… will it get a bit more later at least? 😂
You have to re-add them from the spellbook if you change spec the first time I believe
Frost Mage main, Feral alt here. Feral is not a difficult spec to play, buy any means. It's had its moments of being squishy and easy to take down, but in this current patch of TWW, it's actually super easy. Bleed everything and maintain them. You're basically an Aff lock with a tanky form.
Same I play shaman/druid/mage/rogue and idk why people still put Feral in the S tier difficulty. The only hard part is how you use cyclone as melee, but all the rest is nothing hard.
> “bleed everything and maintain them”
> 100k dps
Yk you have to snapshot bleeds properly and also manage your builders sequence so you don’t drown in energy?
Did this video just say Fury is one of the strongest specs? Wow skill capped must have fallen way way way down since I last used it, because that's cap as hell.
Fury warrior is been nerfed for the 6x time and olmost every class can outperform them atm
INDEED, LEAVE FURY ALONE WITH UR LIES AND ANTI FUN PROPAGANDA >:C
nah u just bad fury is still OP. Healing the same amount as a healer and dealing top damage..
@@tylerdunn199 lmfao what were u dropped on your head?
@@tylerdunn199 nah im not
Magnusz rank 1 in 2v2, he beats frost mages by just focusing healer
Smash Smash, warrior smash.
Great video, super accurate
Pressing instant cast, undispellable, no cooldown cheap shot is “very hard” 😂
Still waiting for my EVO Augmentation guide starting to feel I paid for nothing
I would put both Warr specs in the same tier... Arms have the bleeds as an extra and that's it
Please read your comment again and use google translate if you want to give your opinion. Whatever you typed here is absolute gibberish
Funny that dh is one of the hardest spec in pve now
put feral on very hard when is broken af is not real i saw 1750 payer be at 2k atm with feral
you can stop watching after placing unholy in hard tier and fury in very easy after all this nerfs...fury cant cleave if there are no 3 targets you cant do dmg if you get kited perma slowed,you have to do 15% less dmg to stay in defense stance,cause you get focused every game after all this ''guides''(dunno if there is another class that have to do less dmg to take less dmg).yet ret and unholy top dmg meter all game(unholy is unkillable literally) they do all their dmg from range so you will never have downtime even if yo uget kited,ret has an 8 sec immunity that let healers recover in which you can still do full dmg and its only easy because you have to press the utility buttons(you can never press utility buttons and still do better that fury) and unholy gets HARD because apparetly pressing focus gnaw is harder that pressing focus storm bolt....
Puting assa in mid and Dk on hard is a disrespect. So many things you have to set up with assa to really do any impactful damage. Also you are the squishier rogue
Bro you run around on assa just spamming buttons and then kidney and almost dead lol
@@t.ydunston2251 you clearly don't know how to play assa
@@krauserinsegundo4851 yeah that’s for sure…..🥱
I think they shouldve been both on mid
@@krauserinsegundo4851 clearly don’t know how to play a assa rogue….🤯 I’m a heal main: it’s a reason it’s rough with a assa in your lobby: but I guess. You and the other 4 🙂↔️
BG blitz content
what is that addon or weakaura or whatever that has those nice chevrons above teammates?
I think they have a video with all their addons and how to set the em up. I’m sure I did it in the past. Mine is completely like theirs.
@@t.ydunston2251 I have the Skill capped add on setup… it doesn’t do that fancy thing. I’m pretty sure it’s a weak aura. If you happen to discover what it is, please do tell. I’ll try to find that video. Thanks.
@@zacharybryant3865 I will look when I get on later because I’ve found some of theses. It’s been a long time but I think I use like “kui” name plates or something that helped
We all know that it can be warriors or DHs lol
Feral definitely does NOT currently have a high skill floor. You can kill anyone with your opener alone.
At 1500 rating sure at 2k plus against good players you will have to play more complex with managing clones constantly sitting in bear form etc
@@adamkelly4308 Managing clones is very easy now with ferals taking precog gem.
@@OWlsfordshire no its not at higher rating.
@@issolol You're not playing at the skill floor at high rating though.
@@OWlsfordshire higher than you
Frost DK and Enha sha same tir😂😂😂wtf guys😂😊
Nothing is harder than Fury. Only high IQ Chad's can master the class.
Frost dk hard?? Bahaha are you kidding me? Unholy is harder than frost too.
They are both VERY easy
@@CovenantAgentLazarus Comparatively to what? Only really kinda hard melee classes are rogues and ferals imo.
Unholy dk is so easy
Nonsense. As a dk you're basically running a target down doing hella dam. As a ret you're worrying about your own team as well as supporting your own team. Ret are almost always the kill target as well. Same with a dh.
dh is never kill target
I can only talk about frost since I don't play unholy, but frost is mostly useful because of his setup potential. Of course the dmg is good, but to take your example you can often use grip/blinding sleet/AMZ/ice chains or strangulate in order to peel your team mates while putting damage. And you won't ever kill without a good setup. I guess that's why it's "hard", that's absolutely not only about "running a target down". In fact that is the easiest part.
Unholy Hard Hahahahhahah ok, pressing your pve rotation and rotational stun and silence ---> win its so EZ that it should be with furry
Fury warrior is not that great my man lol. once you get passed enraged regen they just flop.
Except there's no such thing as getting past enraged regeneration. You lose
@@CovenantAgentLazarus its an 8 second defensive on a 2 minute cooldown that can only be utilized in melee range bloodthirst basically can only be used 3 times in this window? what are you on about
@@CovenantAgentLazarus As a surv hunt main soon as I see it I just hit em with frost trap and leave them to cool down and then kill them soon as they get out. Def doable. If they trink it then hit em with a stun and go invis and kill them after I its over anyway. Surv is hard to play and will def humble you cause it has so much utility and option to play with but once you master it there is not much you can not out play. Surv is weak to dots tho but you can also outplay casters quite easily.
This can’t be real, who’s having top damage with fury war ? Who’s finding it easy against mage and other casters ? 😂
i like it man. push all these noobs to fury warrior after the nerfs so we can eat. smart
Bruh enh has a scuffed rotation, the worst mobility in the game, no mortal strike, low survivability, no reliable stun, average damage and by the the lowest reward to effort. And you put it only in hard 😂
Worst mobility in game? Priest, warlock, DK would like to have a word. Also enhance damage is insane.
@@SIIKAP1DK doesnt need mobility they have grips. Use brain cells before speaking.
@@CovenantAgentLazarus says the dude with no brain cells. I didn’t say they needed mobility. I said they have less than enhance. Please focus next time
@@CovenantAgentLazarus You clearly know nohing about the game bro, so atleast try to be polite. DK is indeed recognized as a complete no mobility class, having grisps doesn't chance anything about that special weakness.
@@cassiopee5516Absolutely it does. DK can just pull everyone in slow everyone by a lot and are considered a counter to casters while also having solid tankiness. Meanwhile Enhance stare at casters while they get rooted and go make a coffee before they can get to them. While having hardly any CC other than a Hex which has a CD can't be used on Druids and can be dispelled and a stun totem which can be avoided.
funny how the two specs in easy are also currently the two worst specs in TWW
fury warrior is easy to play but calling it "one of the strongest specs" is just crazy. warrior is **** in TWW
You can tell the truth: Fury = Mongo Tier
You're welcome.
Mm Hunter was classified as easy in ranged dps, and now u claim survi is very hard as melee (same toolkit)
LOL
DH is - without a doubt - currently in the “Very Hard” tier concerning Solo Shuffle
I bet most people on here play fury warrior 😅😂
DH is so easy, lol, so easy that there are DH everywhere above 2100. We're literally surrounded by this easy class, easy to play and easy to climb with. Or maybe all DH players are just too stupid to succeed with such a simple class, while all the Feral and DK players must have PhDs and be geniuses to climb so effortlessly ?
DH feel pretty weak rn but that doesn't mean they are not easier to play than many other classes.
@@gabemaurer4969 You're right, I'm sure lining up 4 buffs, each with a 5-second duration and taking a GCD to activate, is way simpler than anything else. It's not like we have to do the hardest thing in the world, which is pressing Anti-Magic Shield to be immune to everything during our burst, and stick to the enemy the whole time-oh wait, we have Death Grip to pull them back without moving an inch... oh wait, that's not Demon Hunter!
@@Nakerox-st7fk haha so true people are just stupid sometimes!
@@Nakerox-st7fk that's to play at an advanced level, in which ALL classes have things to manage. DH at a basic level is easier than other classes.
probably because there was hardly any real Dh mains lol they're all just fotm rerollers tbh