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So, "maintain dots to generate insanity which is a whole new level of pain"...what you meant to say was Shadow Priest is one of the most IMMERSIVE classes.
Lorewise, not pvpwise. I played SP in DF PVP, and i can tell you. There ain't nothing immersive about it, you just get trainwrecked by all 3 opponnents, and you literaly do no dmg besides your dots. You can't cast, you get perma cc'd. It's called an easy target
@@Obliviell With the amount of self sustain we have as SP now it has become a lot easier to deal with those things, but you need to be good at fake casting and rotating your cds, if you can do that then it's really powerful. Having the precog gem makes a HUGE difference for shadow. Currently it's the most fun spec for me because I can survive so much pressure and do crazy burst, just stay focused during the micro cc and it's all good. The downside to it is the mobility issue though
@@NostalgiaNickThat's the joke. Ret paladins have so much range and ways to spec into even more range from talents that they pretty much have as much range as Evoker.
Been playing spriest and it’s been an absolute nightmare. Just constant brain dead melee training me. I have had game where I have only casted a handful of times. It’s miserable.
Ive played bm hunter for years as because of the simplistic rotation it has allowed me to really nail cc chains being disruptive/annoying to the other team. I hit around 2600 by end of seasons. It currently is very hard to play in ss. Teammates dont listen and cyclone main target rendering you useless. Very hard to do steady damage unless the team is bad and stands in front of you and lets you free cast and even then it has a long ramp up time. I switched to MM and have no background in it, i hit 2k in hours. Elemental shaman was similar. IMO BM hunter is currently harder than half those classes listed. Only at the low ratings is it easy to get damage going. BM Hunter is one of if not the lowest represented specs in SS this season, even with the buffs
yeah i play all 3 hunter specs and BM is actually not very easy to play optimally and feels quite hard to finish games as. I think people assume bm is very easy because the dmg profile is mostly pet dmg but its all still globals you hit and requires good uptime on frenzy and awareness of pet positioning and stuff to do good dmg, not to mention all the micro cc in the game constantly clipping pets making you do 0 dmg. and has zero burst so again very hard to finish matches. I find survival and mm much easier to win on and rotationally are just as easy if not easier
I've got 6 80s, all I play is pvp and im currently 1920 in ss with boomkin and by far its the hardest of these, every lobby you're getting trained by brain dead dks and warriors who kick every single cast and the dps do not help by offering no cc, just a walking training dummy in chicken form
It's always the same BS, the game is "balanced for 3s" in detriment of almost every game mode. I would like to see any top player playing Affliction in 2s without a healer, and live trough the absolute misery that is to play that spec. Your defensives don't keep you alive enough when focused by 2 targets. Kiting is useless, every class has more gap closers than you have gap openers. Drain Life Heal is useless. The amount of interrupts, stuns and micro CCs that stop your casting is just disgusting. Even when the enemy team is bad enough by allowing you to Cast UA, Haunt, Phantom Singularity, Soul Rot and Darkglare for a total of 6 globals and all your offensive CDs (and maybe Unending Resolve too), all this is simply removed with 1 INSTANT BUTTON PRESS by so many DPS classes or a Healers' dispel. This design is so bad it's unbelievable. By Skill Capped's own admission, Affliction is by far the best kill target in the game. It's baffling the level of pressure/shutting down even a bad player can cause on an Affliction Warlock. Seriously, you people of "Balanced for 3s" can shove it. There should be a fair proportion of risk/effort to reward in the game as overall. No class/spec should be this miserable to play in any game mode.
The constant whining from melees who can't zugzug a decent Frost mage by rolling their head on their keyboard is hilarious. Frost mage is B tier in the hands of an average (!) player after the repeated nerfs to Ice Lance, yet you still can't handle them.
Can also LOS and still have pets kill for you.... insane how that works. I honestly find that playstyle a lot of fun. BECAUSE it isn't as frustrating as every other cater in the game.
Aug is not easier than Aff Lock, Spriest, and Fire Mage. And it’s way harder than Devastation and it ain’t even close. Always funny to see skill capped try to place them when they’ve already said they have no clue
Man I’m sick of people saying DH is easy. DH is harder than all DK specs, all Warrior specs, Assassination Rogue, and arguably Survival Hunter. DH has a huge button rotation, while having to maintain dots, dashing to do ideal damage, while being squishy as all fucks. Meanwhile Arms presses 3 buttons, and yet somehow DH is considered noob friendly? Gtfoh
Harder? If by harder you mean... easier to kill everything. Than yeah you nailed it. More boring yes. Stand still to cast. Never face a real fight. Jump spin, run away. Jump spin, run away. Boring.
You mixed up skill floor with skill ceiling. LOW skill floor means the floor is LOW meaning it is HARDER to get usefulness out of it. You meant HIGH skill floor.
Low skill floor = less complex class. Easier to pick up and do well with High skill floor = more complex class. Harder to pick up and do well with. Low skill ceiling = lower max potential and is quicker to master High skill ceiling = higher max potential and takes longer to master
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"You basically dont have to play half the class" 🤣🤣
Can you guys guide is through the clown shoes BGB mmr system?
How many?
So, "maintain dots to generate insanity which is a whole new level of pain"...what you meant to say was Shadow Priest is one of the most IMMERSIVE classes.
Lorewise, not pvpwise. I played SP in DF PVP, and i can tell you. There ain't nothing immersive about it, you just get trainwrecked by all 3 opponnents, and you literaly do no dmg besides your dots. You can't cast, you get perma cc'd. It's called an easy target
@@Obliviell With the amount of self sustain we have as SP now it has become a lot easier to deal with those things, but you need to be good at fake casting and rotating your cds, if you can do that then it's really powerful. Having the precog gem makes a HUGE difference for shadow. Currently it's the most fun spec for me because I can survive so much pressure and do crazy burst, just stay focused during the micro cc and it's all good. The downside to it is the mobility issue though
Forgot ret paladins...🤣
It’s ranged dps guide? Lol
@@NostalgiaNickThat's the joke. Ret paladins have so much range and ways to spec into even more range from talents that they pretty much have as much range as Evoker.
@@NostalgiaNick Yeah, Ret is ranged dps. That why I was saying the forgot about them.
@@NostalgiaNick Ret is effectively a ranged class at this point. Almost none of it's abilities are melee anymore.
Dang ppl really have no sense of humor
This is the voice of skill capped.
This game really has too much micro CC in my opinion for PVP.
Mix that with damage numbers in general being too high, making micro CC even more powerful because you can do a lot inbetween goes due to damage.
Guys, can someone tell me pls the UI name in 18:24 moonkin ?
I came here for the intro. Worth.
Bg content plz
Lol
Amen. Arena is for the no-shower crowd.
No one cares about bg ffs
@jeune_rouge no you're right the money and the ladies are in Arena. Give it up bro. Being Glad is irrelevant.
rat objectives, cc healers, dont split damage. If youre dpsing someone solo youre doing it wrong
Whats the nameplate from the boomkin 18:46?
Been playing spriest and it’s been an absolute nightmare. Just constant brain dead melee training me. I have had game where I have only casted a handful of times. It’s miserable.
aug has waay more damage than is shown here when played as scale commander and using actual damage talents
BM finally getting love
expecting melee one :(
All melee are easy 😏
@@theparad21 ok bro.
Mongo melee are that way ----->
Ive played bm hunter for years as because of the simplistic rotation it has allowed me to really nail cc chains being disruptive/annoying to the other team. I hit around 2600 by end of seasons.
It currently is very hard to play in ss. Teammates dont listen and cyclone main target rendering you useless. Very hard to do steady damage unless the team is bad and stands in front of you and lets you free cast and even then it has a long ramp up time.
I switched to MM and have no background in it, i hit 2k in hours.
Elemental shaman was similar.
IMO BM hunter is currently harder than half those classes listed. Only at the low ratings is it easy to get damage going.
BM Hunter is one of if not the lowest represented specs in SS this season, even with the buffs
Skill floor is the main criterea, which bm is so freaking easy to get into
has the highest w/r currently in solo shuffle according to warcraft arena logs. It's damage profile does seem bad though
yeah i play all 3 hunter specs and BM is actually not very easy to play optimally and feels quite hard to finish games as. I think people assume bm is very easy because the dmg profile is mostly pet dmg but its all still globals you hit and requires good uptime on frenzy and awareness of pet positioning and stuff to do good dmg, not to mention all the micro cc in the game constantly clipping pets making you do 0 dmg. and has zero burst so again very hard to finish matches. I find survival and mm much easier to win on and rotationally are just as easy if not easier
Best dps for solo rated bgs?
Damn, I wish MM didnt need a pet for arena
I've got 6 80s, all I play is pvp and im currently 1920 in ss with boomkin and by far its the hardest of these, every lobby you're getting trained by brain dead dks and warriors who kick every single cast and the dps do not help by offering no cc, just a walking training dummy in chicken form
I don’t think Augmentation should be considered easy, especially after it’s nerfs last xpac
They put it at easy because the spec is easy ? Bruh
Every single ranged spec feels like fury warrior with 40 yard range abilities.. that is also a tank
"Half a second soulfire" what are you smoking? :D
I'm talking about the proc nerf of course, not the default casting time
Wery wery wery eazy range is f frost mage,spam 1 spell and gg…Favorite Blizzard class😂
As devoker player im guilty as chargerd
Go Devokers!! 🔥
(FYI, it's "guilty as charged".)
I think locks have to be the most OP, ive seen dark pact absorb 8mil, like u literally have to swap targets and give up on killing them a lot😅
The cc's are out of control
Hunter ez
These guys charge 100 dollars for a UI that isnt as good as luxthos weak auras.
Save your money.
Bgb content when
917 Bertrand Groves
It's always the same BS, the game is "balanced for 3s" in detriment of almost every game mode.
I would like to see any top player playing Affliction in 2s without a healer, and live trough the absolute misery that is to play that spec.
Your defensives don't keep you alive enough when focused by 2 targets.
Kiting is useless, every class has more gap closers than you have gap openers.
Drain Life Heal is useless.
The amount of interrupts, stuns and micro CCs that stop your casting is just disgusting.
Even when the enemy team is bad enough by allowing you to Cast UA, Haunt, Phantom Singularity, Soul Rot and Darkglare for a total of 6 globals and all your offensive CDs (and maybe Unending Resolve too), all this is simply removed with 1 INSTANT BUTTON PRESS by so many DPS classes or a Healers' dispel. This design is so bad it's unbelievable.
By Skill Capped's own admission, Affliction is by far the best kill target in the game. It's baffling the level of pressure/shutting down even a bad player can cause on an Affliction Warlock.
Seriously, you people of "Balanced for 3s" can shove it. There should be a fair proportion of risk/effort to reward in the game as overall. No class/spec should be this miserable to play in any game mode.
Dh is easy to deal no dmg hihi
This tier list is provided by the frost mage gang.
Medium my ass
Excuse me
What do you play?
The constant whining from melees who can't zugzug a decent Frost mage by rolling their head on their keyboard is hilarious. Frost mage is B tier in the hands of an average (!) player after the repeated nerfs to Ice Lance, yet you still can't handle them.
@@Viscroi guess avarage player cant use his 17 blinks and spam icelanc to kill melees xD
did you even listen their reasoning? instant cast and easy kite is not same as hard
Demo harder than aff is kind of laughable
Aff is one of the easiest specs in the game tbf lol
Hunter is very easy no need cast and have stupid damage with one button
Can also LOS and still have pets kill for you.... insane how that works. I honestly find that playstyle a lot of fun. BECAUSE it isn't as frustrating as every other cater in the game.
bm is not easy when you have 2 melee on you....
Just hit that S button harder
Is it because the hardcore rotation?
Youre right its Easter
My brother no ranged is easy when theres 2 melee, but you really picked the one spec that does not have to CAST
Does nothing but talk about how hard shadow priest is, proceeds to give it just hard
Aug is not easier than Aff Lock, Spriest, and Fire Mage. And it’s way harder than Devastation and it ain’t even close.
Always funny to see skill capped try to place them when they’ve already said they have no clue
You’ve played aff, spriest, and fire mage?
@@sqwippysquishy5287 Yes all 3 above 2200 atleast
Man I’m sick of people saying DH is easy. DH is harder than all DK specs, all Warrior specs, Assassination Rogue, and arguably Survival Hunter. DH has a huge button rotation, while having to maintain dots, dashing to do ideal damage, while being squishy as all fucks. Meanwhile Arms presses 3 buttons, and yet somehow DH is considered noob friendly? Gtfoh
Amen brotha. Had a game with my DH last night in solo shuffle. Won 6 rounds with 6 kills
Cope
Devoker and Frost Mage need nerfed 1000000000%
damn im early
All you did was make a reverse tier list lol
Wow PvP is already dead again lol
Harder? If by harder you mean... easier to kill everything. Than yeah you nailed it. More boring yes. Stand still to cast. Never face a real fight. Jump spin, run away. Jump spin, run away. Boring.
You mixed up skill floor with skill ceiling. LOW skill floor means the floor is LOW meaning it is HARDER to get usefulness out of it. You meant HIGH skill floor.
No
Nope
What??? Lmao you are confused
Low skill floor = less complex class. Easier to pick up and do well with
High skill floor = more complex class. Harder to pick up and do well with.
Low skill ceiling = lower max potential and is quicker to master
High skill ceiling = higher max potential and takes longer to master