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Man I've mained Resto Druid since Burning crusade and i can't help but feel like since at least BFA that Rdruid has 70% more actions per minute than most other classes for the same result. And in TWW I can't prehot and heal through burst without going OOM while Disc is still 70% mana. 4 base HoTs to keep up at all times that basically can't keep up with auto attacks (4 timers). Plus more fluff like 2nd and 3rd stack lifebloom. ADD IN small cooldown timers Iron Bark, swiftmend, cen ward, treants and weve got a dozen damn counters to keep in mind at any given moment. Still missing 20% of other healing related moves and after all that you can start to worry about CC and the rest of the game mechanics. I know Ill be told I'm just bad but my God I shouldnt spend 60% of a match worrying about 25 different timers.
R1 legend Rdru here. You are right lol. Unfortunately! Have to kind of balance max hps and cloning dps when you can even then you can just get out mana’d
Comment Section: You’re wrong. My healer is hardest. I think healer in general just has a bit more of a learning curve because they need to look out for themselves, others, and what is coming at them, and others, from multiple people - damaging or crowd control, while also being yelled at to dispel 😂
I hear what you say, but I wish blizzard would just have better UI and have those options in-game. I feel like removing information would make the game even harder to understand for casuals like me
Hey skillcapped, how can you not mention that rshaman has the most buttonbloat then any other class? Surely that should affect how hard it is to play/learn?
Holy priest is so bad at the moment. It can be good into rsham or presvoker (SOMETIMES) in solo shuffle. Facing disc is a complete unfair uphill battle. Disc absorbs 5-6x amount more damage with shield.. and their attonement sometimes heals more than my serenity and mastery combined. Hpriest gets screwed if theres a mortal strike affect. 3 mins into the game our heals do absolutely NO HEALING. This also means our mastery becomes useless too. A little bit of nothing is nothing (mastery is a small HOT added bssed in how much you heal, in dampening you dont heal for anything) they have to hardcast SO MUCH. im casting like 24-25 flash heals a game... Just for it to be my 3rd in healing. Very easy to OOM, very very easy to CD overlap with clueless teammates (guardian spirit on them then they block/bubble/turtle) same with life swap. Its pretty ridiculous that they can do more damage with the shield reflection (crystaline reflection) talent then i can with my holy fires 😐😐😐
I was waiting for a tier list like this! I really wanted to get back to healing a bit, since I enjoyed it alot back in the day (Cata) as a resto druid. But I'm not sure I have the mental health for it nowadays....
Yes I don’t understand how this is not something that they mentioned. Rshaman literally have 30-40%more abilities then priest/evoker. It’s should count towards being harder?
I thought Pres would have fallen under easy, but ya made me feel a bit better as I have always succeeded at Pres. more than any other healer over the past year.
I feel one thing that's worth talking about MWs is that they have TERRIBLE mana management. It's not hard to blow through your mana in like 90 seconds.
Make sure your talented Fade removes snares, also make sure you use the feather macro on yourself. I barely get tunneled, I just run away. You can even use the roots talent if it helps you. Don't be afraid of using your Desperate Prayer soon. That's the first CD I use when I get focused and then I press PW: Life on CD. Then I also use the Premonition. The first one allows you to use your Shield multiple times without a CD or if you manage to get kicked into Mind Blast, you can use your Pennance 4 times without a CD. All the forms of Premonition help you. The other one increases your healing, the ultimate one gives you a big shield + does everything else. When I get gripped into a big AoE together with my team mates, I immediately use the barrier and if I get gripped alone, I almost immediately PS and run away. I used to save my PS for worse situations, but since I have 2 stacks of it, I don't hesitate using the 1st one more preemptively.
LMAO. Just look at the UI of the pres segment of this video.. No wonder WoW pvp is struggling. What a convoluted mess it has become with addons, weakauras and 50 keybinds on top.
Hey SkillCapped, I have a tough question here - as Fury Warrior I usually macro Avatar and Recklessness into one button because it has the same cooldown. Is it a right thing or not?
@@yannickmarti9866 yes this is it, when human form click hover and immediately time stop. Then you are human form and can fight without changing until you use the swap ability again
Done with PVP... Endless gap closer tunnel classes destroying endless new players... The whole thing is dumpster fire for anyone not highly skilled to move past the low tier games. Good luck but this game sucks now.
Oh yeah, switching your friendly and enemy targets all the time. Healing, doing dmg, CCing, watching your mana, positioning and chasing the friendly DPS who constantly line of sight your heals in shuffle 😎
Healer is easy because is easier to find good players to carry you... that true on pvp and pve... Now if you play a healer that strong and easy to play that just rollface to high rating... Rating you get on a healer is very diferent than the rate you get on a hard to play dps...
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Man I've mained Resto Druid since Burning crusade and i can't help but feel like since at least BFA that Rdruid has 70% more actions per minute than most other classes for the same result. And in TWW I can't prehot and heal through burst without going OOM while Disc is still 70% mana. 4 base HoTs to keep up at all times that basically can't keep up with auto attacks (4 timers). Plus more fluff like 2nd and 3rd stack lifebloom. ADD IN small cooldown timers Iron Bark, swiftmend, cen ward, treants and weve got a dozen damn counters to keep in mind at any given moment. Still missing 20% of other healing related moves and after all that you can start to worry about CC and the rest of the game mechanics. I know Ill be told I'm just bad but my God I shouldnt spend 60% of a match worrying about 25 different timers.
R1 legend Rdru here. You are right lol. Unfortunately! Have to kind of balance max hps and cloning dps when you can even then you can just get out mana’d
Do not rely on this video, hpala is simple but is by far the hardest to climb in shuffle, that’s why they are being reworked and buffed.
Comment Section: You’re wrong. My healer is hardest.
I think healer in general just has a bit more of a learning curve because they need to look out for themselves, others, and what is coming at them, and others, from multiple people - damaging or crowd control, while also being yelled at to dispel 😂
i wish blizzard removed all addons in pvp
I'm sure they could easily implement some of these important trackers in-game.
I hear what you say, but I wish blizzard would just have better UI and have those options in-game. I feel like removing information would make the game even harder to understand for casuals like me
Why?
Yes yes yes!
Woah woah woah, easy there Satan, don't go crazy now. lol😁
Hey skillcapped, how can you not mention that rshaman has the most buttonbloat then any other class? Surely that should affect how hard it is to play/learn?
I believe Pres evoker has more buttons than RShaman. I have three rows of them that I must use for a successful arena battle.
Resto Shaman does have a lot of utility buttons, but has very little actual healing buttons. This is why it went in medium difficulty.
Holy priest is so bad at the moment. It can be good into rsham or presvoker (SOMETIMES) in solo shuffle. Facing disc is a complete unfair uphill battle. Disc absorbs 5-6x amount more damage with shield.. and their attonement sometimes heals more than my serenity and mastery combined. Hpriest gets screwed if theres a mortal strike affect. 3 mins into the game our heals do absolutely NO HEALING. This also means our mastery becomes useless too. A little bit of nothing is nothing (mastery is a small HOT added bssed in how much you heal, in dampening you dont heal for anything) they have to hardcast SO MUCH. im casting like 24-25 flash heals a game... Just for it to be my 3rd in healing. Very easy to OOM, very very easy to CD overlap with clueless teammates (guardian spirit on them then they block/bubble/turtle) same with life swap. Its pretty ridiculous that they can do more damage with the shield reflection (crystaline reflection) talent then i can with my holy fires 😐😐😐
I was waiting for a tier list like this! I really wanted to get back to healing a bit, since I enjoyed it alot back in the day (Cata) as a resto druid. But I'm not sure I have the mental health for it nowadays....
all spells for resto shaman made me log out
Shammy is at least hard. Positioning is hard, lot of spells and CDs to keep track.
Yes I don’t understand how this is not something that they mentioned. Rshaman literally have 30-40%more abilities then priest/evoker. It’s should count towards being harder?
RestoDruid- Disc priest same learning curve 🤔🤔😂😂🤭
Shiet guys, you are progressing nice. I remember that channel with maybe 8k subs
I thought Pres would have fallen under easy, but ya made me feel a bit better as I have always succeeded at Pres. more than any other healer over the past year.
It's still extremely strong rn even with the nerf ! But its definitely on the harder side of things compared to most healers.
I was seriously considering buying the subscription, but now that I’ve watched this video, I’m sure I won’t.
I feel one thing that's worth talking about MWs is that they have TERRIBLE mana management. It's not hard to blow through your mana in like 90 seconds.
Im in love with holy paladin 😊
I find prevoker to be medium difficulty at most. Shaman definitely the hardest one, rest is okay.
Started playing disc this season as alt. I really struggle asap I get focused. No idea how some ppl are able to stay alive asap they get tunneled.
Make sure your talented Fade removes snares, also make sure you use the feather macro on yourself. I barely get tunneled, I just run away. You can even use the roots talent if it helps you. Don't be afraid of using your Desperate Prayer soon. That's the first CD I use when I get focused and then I press PW: Life on CD. Then I also use the Premonition. The first one allows you to use your Shield multiple times without a CD or if you manage to get kicked into Mind Blast, you can use your Pennance 4 times without a CD. All the forms of Premonition help you. The other one increases your healing, the ultimate one gives you a big shield + does everything else.
When I get gripped into a big AoE together with my team mates, I immediately use the barrier and if I get gripped alone, I almost immediately PS and run away. I used to save my PS for worse situations, but since I have 2 stacks of it, I don't hesitate using the 1st one more preemptively.
LMAO. Just look at the UI of the pres segment of this video.. No wonder WoW pvp is struggling. What a convoluted mess it has become with addons, weakauras and 50 keybinds on top.
Hey SkillCapped, I have a tough question here - as Fury Warrior I usually macro Avatar and Recklessness into one button because it has the same cooldown. Is it a right thing or not?
No. CDR on Recklessness.
u can get a spectral tiger for healing in solo shuffle?
How is Evoker fighting only in human form this is what i was waiting for but when I play it is going automatically on dragon form without going back.
Yeah how!
some trick with hover + timestop you could make it glitch. Worked in beta but i dont know if it works now
@@yannickmarti9866 yes this is it, when human form click hover and immediately time stop. Then you are human form and can fight without changing until you use the swap ability again
@@Boldyboi do I need to do this every shuffle round?
Pretty much spot on, rdruid can become a lot harder if you're facing a good DPS who knows how to swap on your hots after CC
I don’t know why, but hpal is the hardest for me.
Healing is just stressful
this just a normal tier list the hardest is the best and the easiest is the worst
Healers are tank dps and heal really inmortals
disc is way harder than evoker
Done with PVP... Endless gap closer tunnel classes destroying endless new players... The whole thing is dumpster fire for anyone not highly skilled to move past the low tier games. Good luck but this game sucks now.
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I hit 2k in 3s with my resto dudu in my 1st pvp ssn ever as healer 😅
I found druid só hard tô heal,
@@ramonalexferreira6191 you will get used to it the more u play and to pre hot everything u gotta predict the burst with dudu
Hpal is easy?? Lol
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10:11. just look at that screen. this is why no new players come to the game. It looks like shit.
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Healing is 10x easier than any DPS.
@@Skafiskafnjak2276 depends what healer
Hahaha, nope, this statement can only come from somebody who never reached 2k+ as healer
Oh yeah, switching your friendly and enemy targets all the time. Healing, doing dmg, CCing, watching your mana, positioning and chasing the friendly DPS who constantly line of sight your heals in shuffle 😎
mabye at your rating (1300)
@@lostheboss7938 11x glad on DPS
Healer is easy because is easier to find good players to carry you... that true on pvp and pve... Now if you play a healer that strong and easy to play that just rollface to high rating... Rating you get on a healer is very diferent than the rate you get on a hard to play dps...
Idk man Healing PvE is a nightmare. And it feels impossible to find decent DPS with half a brain for defensives/self heals.
say you've never played a healer without saying you've never played a healer
@@romulooliveira5262 Finding a good team for a healer is like finding someone to get laid if you are a girl...
Healer is easy mode because they are rare, so it is easier to get a good group...
Rogue LF raiding guild... no response...
Healer LF raiding guild... 10 guys whisper you...
That's my experience...
@@ericsilva7430 its clearly not a good experience since we are talking about pvp
@@romulooliveira5262 Shuffle, you lose the advantage of everyone wanting you, and they would take anything... So yeah, that would be different...