So you can say the need of cybernetics was more of survival than just as much a fashion statement given the amount of pollution radiation and destruction
That's what I love about Cyberpunk, the amount of world-building that they put in when it comes to world politics is simply astonishing. I believe poorer European countries like Poland suffered a lot with pollution and such since they were the perfect candidates for cheap labor since they would consider it not attractive enough for tourism attractions...Sometimes I almost forget that Europe isn't all that better than the NUSA...sure, the general population still doesn't eat scop 24/7, but environmental problems hit them way harder than in other places of the world.
Also world building for cyberpunk was made in the 80's. Thats why Soviet Union still exists, Baltics for example do not appear anywhere and Poland, Bulgaria and Romania are not part of the EEU but some weird cheap labour, heavy industrialised semi-socialist countries. That is also the reason Japan is the main competitor of NUSA and worlds largest economy while China plays a smaller role and is more isolated internally.
Ever heard of a "Rough Guide to the U.K."? This was a sourcebook for the Cyberpunk 2020 tabletop RPG. It was published in 1994 but kind of predicts Brexit.
@@lordzaboem You mean my dog eared and Mountain Dew stained copy that I've had since the mid '90s? It's one of the best sourcebooks I own, but requires a British dry sense of humour to fully appreciate.
@@brielsaideles It is. East Anglia has become reminiscent of the Mekong Delta, all of Belfast is considered a Combat Zone, and no-one is brave enough to go find out exactly what is happening in the hills up North towards Scotland...
China is a cyberpunk dystopia There is a reason why Asians got random Chinese blood in and the world is full of Chinatowns Cause Mainland China fucking sucks. What's even worse is that liberals always equate critcizing China to criticizing Chinese Immigrants Lol hate to break it to you but Joe Lee who was born n raised in San Francisco Chinatown. Is Chinese American not Chinese
More diesel punks than cyberpunk. Sad and hilarious that not even green energy is viable in this future. As ugly as it is, nuclear energy best, despite what people think, nuclear waste gets safely stored and reused efficiently. Stories of waste being improperly disposed of I seen were waste from toxic waste from chemical plants.
sadly, this might very well become truth. I probably will be telling my grandkids of times when we used to have to drive cars manually only for them to not believe me.
@@Z9R. "I swear to God, we had to drive them ourselves, but people sucked at driving so there was always car accidents" "That's nice grampa, now take your meds"
My thought's exatcly. I think Europe still looks better than most places in the world, and poorer countries like Poland would certainly be used as Industrial breeding grounds, since labor would be cheaper than in other countries in Europe...or, we can just assume that with the Rabids Virus and the Data Krash of 2023, and of course, the 4th corporate war destroying lots of places across the world...they had some problems getting back on their feet.
Yeah last I heard Europe was doing far better than NUSA and Russia was broken up if I remember correctly. And I think China was hit with a gas crisis due to the first corporate war. But I don't know if it ever recovered
You know what's also bleak is that Night city is a coastal city in California and is surrounded by desert. Which isn't so bad until you realize that it's suppose to be in northern California and is closer to San Francisco than LA. So yikes.
It would be interesting to have a cyberpunk series that takes place in the same universe as cyberpunk 2077, but it would take place on different continents all over the world
August 2021: in the context of an impressive heatwave, the Sicilian town of Floridia records a groundbreaking 49 degrees celsius in a day, the highest ever-registered in Europe Looks like the future CP depicts is not so far-fetched :(
Y’all know I find it interesting how in this verse Humanity has seemingly been going to shit over the pass century, and yet Humanity keeps adapting and technologically advancing, for they have already colonized the Moon and Mars.
Not really. While they are said to have universal health care, you meet a large number of ex-Union Scavengers that are adept at surgery/chemistry/other medical skills (why do such specialists want to escape the country and choose to become criminals in the NUSA?) Also, their government has resorted to having an AI run the economy to fix extreme pollution and shortages of basic goods.
As of 2020, this was true. The U.S. and the U.K. got the worst treatment in Cyberpunk lore. The only societies which fared worse where those places completely wiped out, like much of the Middle East and Hong Kong. The U.S.S.R. was still around in 2020 and allying itself with Europe. After 2020, the state of most of the world outside of Night City is vague. The sources simply haven't explored those parts of the globe yet. In 2045+ onward, we know that two of the biggest ten Megacorporations are headquarters in the U.S.S.R., SovOil and Zarfara. So, it has that going for it economically. On the other hand, the Soviets are still burning fossil fuel provided by SovOil, whereas the rest of the world has moved onto cleaner and more reliable fuel sources like CHOO2 (which is a biodiesel). At least in the energy technology, the Soviets are generations behind the West. Advance that another three decades into 2077, and the state of Asian countries becomes even more murky. Zarafa is probably still around and making robots for security and construction, I'm guessing. I don't see any mention of SovOil in 2077.
@@Acorrani why is the AI planning the economy a bad thing? That's actually pretty smart and future socialist societies will probably follow the same model, humans cannot predict anywhere NEAR as well as an artificial intelligence could and when you have a planned economy predicting the future becomes more and more important.
@@PopPopPopPop It's not a bad thing per se (at least from our world's perspective), but the Neosoviets resorting to it is a showcase of how incompetent their government has become. In Cyberpunk, truly sentient AIs are some of the most dangerous entities around (we get a glimpse of that with Alt), so placing one in charge of a whole state's economy could be seen as a desperate measure.
Probably a Cyberpunk Red Lore bit. China was going through strife and factionalism during the time of the red so whichever side reunified China must have invaded the Himalayas to reach South Asian Resources.
Seems a bit odd that in the 2020 setting Europe had very hands on governments, but in 2077 they're all out neoliberal and everything has gone to shit (Europe having been one of the less shit places on Earth in cyberpunk).
The 2020 setting was written a long time ago in real life. Europe, or rather the EU, is now seen a more and more neo-liberal, with several scandals of lobbying (corpo influence one can say). Rewritting this part is just an update with the modern critics. I think CP 2077 acknowledge the 2020 situation and justifies the drastic turn with the corporate wars and faillure of several governments.
@@arthrogeddon928 interesting take, Europe is seen more or less declining (incredibly sluggish growth, falling academic perfomance continent wide, and the rapid-militarization due to the ukraine war). Although 50 years and no real disasters (until 2077) is an impressive mark, especially for the cyberpunk timeline. So CDPR need to add some stuff to spice things up
So I'm watching the video and then the then I add pops up selling trucks and I thought it was the actual video then it switched over the real thing either the Matrix had a matrix Has Broken or we're kind of line up to that future mantis blades here I come
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So you can say the need of cybernetics was more of survival than just as much a fashion statement given the amount of pollution radiation and destruction
don't forget all the human made dangers and the sheer pressure from work, which is pretty extreme...
As Jinguji says
"It matters not if you died as long you do it in style"
Kinda, but originally it was propelled by the multiple military conflicts (corporate and not) that dotted the word in the 90ies.
That's what I love about Cyberpunk, the amount of world-building that they put in when it comes to world politics is simply astonishing. I believe poorer European countries like Poland suffered a lot with pollution and such since they were the perfect candidates for cheap labor since they would consider it not attractive enough for tourism attractions...Sometimes I almost forget that Europe isn't all that better than the NUSA...sure, the general population still doesn't eat scop 24/7, but environmental problems hit them way harder than in other places of the world.
Also world building for cyberpunk was made in the 80's. Thats why Soviet Union still exists, Baltics for example do not appear anywhere and Poland, Bulgaria and Romania are not part of the EEU but some weird cheap labour, heavy industrialised semi-socialist countries. That is also the reason Japan is the main competitor of NUSA and worlds largest economy while China plays a smaller role and is more isolated internally.
Ever heard of a "Rough Guide to the U.K."? This was a sourcebook for the Cyberpunk 2020 tabletop RPG. It was published in 1994 but kind of predicts Brexit.
@@lordzaboem that sounds so cool!
@@lordzaboem You mean my dog eared and Mountain Dew stained copy that I've had since the mid '90s? It's one of the best sourcebooks I own, but requires a British dry sense of humour to fully appreciate.
@@brielsaideles It is.
East Anglia has become reminiscent of the Mekong Delta, all of Belfast is considered a Combat Zone, and no-one is brave enough to go find out exactly what is happening in the hills up North towards Scotland...
Crazy that that sounds like modern China rather than 50 years from now China
China is a cyberpunk dystopia
There is a reason why Asians got random Chinese blood in and the world is full of Chinatowns
Cause Mainland China fucking sucks. What's even worse is that liberals always equate critcizing China to criticizing Chinese Immigrants
Lol hate to break it to you but Joe Lee who was born n raised in San Francisco Chinatown. Is Chinese American not Chinese
pff thats nothing
what the CCP really wants: control when you piss and when you shit LOL
if you defy the government: "NO MORE POOPING FOR YOU!!!"
Yep
in the lore china had a huge civil war which basically destroyed its economy, it never really recovered until 2045
50 years from now will be uninhabitable 😂
Damn...being a Nomad is sounding better and better...none of this mandated self driving car crap for one thing.
@Mastodon1976 Well, there are trailer parks and a hundred years ago there were the train Hobos, but there is nothing really resembling gypsy caravans.
Yeah man
That's why the Nomad ending is the best
It really drives the whole "eff corpos im gonna fight for my peoples"
More diesel punks than cyberpunk. Sad and hilarious that not even green energy is viable in this future. As ugly as it is, nuclear energy best, despite what people think, nuclear waste gets safely stored and reused efficiently. Stories of waste being improperly disposed of I seen were waste from toxic waste from chemical plants.
You want to live in a literal dystopia.
@@sarenarterius6058 how do you figure? Nomad life looks like getting OUT of the dystopia
That ban on manually-driven vehicles is probably going to become real one day though.
sadly, this might very well become truth. I probably will be telling my grandkids of times when we used to have to drive cars manually only for them to not believe me.
@@Z9R. "I swear to God, we had to drive them ourselves, but people sucked at driving so there was always car accidents"
"That's nice grampa, now take your meds"
If the world still exists in 56 years, it would be interesting for someone (I won’t be here) to look back at this video and rate it for accuracy.
Someone should save these videos to a usb just in case they don’t exist in 56 years
I will have a look on it.👀
In 2077 i will be 77
@@mrpopo5097 a USB still gonna degrade and be worthless in 56 years with this one video on it
Thats implying if a Bartmoss-type guy doesn't destroy the Internet between now and then.
You won’t be here? Not with that attitude
Europe must have been hit hard somewhere between 2020 and 2077, the old lore had europe in much better shape.....
If I remember right in Europe everybody could steal normal food not synthetic
My thought's exatcly. I think Europe still looks better than most places in the world, and poorer countries like Poland would certainly be used as Industrial breeding grounds, since labor would be cheaper than in other countries in Europe...or, we can just assume that with the Rabids Virus and the Data Krash of 2023, and of course, the 4th corporate war destroying lots of places across the world...they had some problems getting back on their feet.
Which is probably why the whole of Europe became untied Europe
Maybe they ran out of gas, who knows.
Yeah last I heard Europe was doing far better than NUSA and Russia was broken up if I remember correctly. And I think China was hit with a gas crisis due to the first corporate war. But I don't know if it ever recovered
I dont know what is safer on the road, me or Delemains children
"Beep beep mutha f@%&er!"
You know what's also bleak is that Night city is a coastal city in California and is surrounded by desert. Which isn't so bad until you realize that it's suppose to be in northern California and is closer to San Francisco than LA. So yikes.
You don’t hit north California till you go past the wall. LA is before the wall.
California is surrounded by desert bruh
Night City wouldnt be founded in an arid place
Just read it again, man
It would be interesting to have a cyberpunk series that takes place in the same universe as cyberpunk 2077, but it would take place on different continents all over the world
August 2021: in the context of an impressive heatwave, the Sicilian town of Floridia records a groundbreaking 49 degrees celsius in a day, the highest ever-registered in Europe
Looks like the future CP depicts is not so far-fetched :(
Bro European governments would never be that hands off with anything.
Y’all know I find it interesting how in this verse Humanity has seemingly been going to shit over the pass century, and yet Humanity keeps adapting and technologically advancing, for they have already colonized the Moon and Mars.
Yeah. The world of Cyberpunk 2077 is pretty much ( *_EXPLETIVE EXPUNGED BY ORDER OF THE O5 COUNCIL_* ).
I see an SCP reference, I upvote.
@@uja11 Thank you, my friend! :)
It really a wonders how the're not a massive exodus offworld, it be cool if they will talk about the Highrider too
I wonder what happened in Europe between cyberpunk 2020 and cyberpunk 2077 given that Europe was very Hands-On governmentally
Just bad worldbuilding on CDPR's part. They just went full-on doomers with CP2077, which is just excessive and dumb.
@@CroGamer002 Pfft.. Yeah, sure buddy.
There was a another corpo war. All so news is bias and 50 times worse than European levels could still be better than America.
the only real bad thing is the huge flooding, thats basically it.
Datakrash and other crisises fucked up the whole world.
ya the solar farm shutting downm, the truth was it was cutting into choo2 profit line
I saw her out in the street after the Arasaka parade.
Same!
i tried to kill her so it wuld be cool to see her death in tv but no she is essential
Based on the amount of Cyberpunk lore I've dived into so far, could I safely state that life in the Soviet Union in 2077 is better than in the NUSA?
Not really. While they are said to have universal health care, you meet a large number of ex-Union Scavengers that are adept at surgery/chemistry/other medical skills (why do such specialists want to escape the country and choose to become criminals in the NUSA?) Also, their government has resorted to having an AI run the economy to fix extreme pollution and shortages of basic goods.
@@Acorrani ...
Makes sense.
As of 2020, this was true. The U.S. and the U.K. got the worst treatment in Cyberpunk lore. The only societies which fared worse where those places completely wiped out, like much of the Middle East and Hong Kong. The U.S.S.R. was still around in 2020 and allying itself with Europe.
After 2020, the state of most of the world outside of Night City is vague. The sources simply haven't explored those parts of the globe yet.
In 2045+ onward, we know that two of the biggest ten Megacorporations are headquarters in the U.S.S.R., SovOil and Zarfara. So, it has that going for it economically.
On the other hand, the Soviets are still burning fossil fuel provided by SovOil, whereas the rest of the world has moved onto cleaner and more reliable fuel sources like CHOO2 (which is a biodiesel). At least in the energy technology, the Soviets are generations behind the West.
Advance that another three decades into 2077, and the state of Asian countries becomes even more murky. Zarafa is probably still around and making robots for security and construction, I'm guessing. I don't see any mention of SovOil in 2077.
@@Acorrani why is the AI planning the economy a bad thing? That's actually pretty smart and future socialist societies will probably follow the same model, humans cannot predict anywhere NEAR as well as an artificial intelligence could and when you have a planned economy predicting the future becomes more and more important.
@@PopPopPopPop It's not a bad thing per se (at least from our world's perspective), but the Neosoviets resorting to it is a showcase of how incompetent their government has become. In Cyberpunk, truly sentient AIs are some of the most dangerous entities around (we get a glimpse of that with Alt), so placing one in charge of a whole state's economy could be seen as a desperate measure.
Himalayan wars??? Hold up, there any lore on that at all?
Still learning new things myself, so don't have a definitive answer yet
Probably a Cyberpunk Red Lore bit. China was going through strife and factionalism during the time of the red so whichever side reunified China must have invaded the Himalayas to reach South Asian Resources.
Yeah this sounds like some new Red lore, this War probably happened sometime after 2045ish?
I thought that it would be an India-China war
China/chinese puppet warlords VS India/pakistan. The battles involved tactical atomic weapons.
There is a chance Warsaw looks like this in 2077 :P
Palace of Culture and Science in the background. It will remain forever.
@@mplutz9564 yes
the audio fidelity on this broadcast recording kicks ass
but if CHOO2 is basically biodiesel then it isn't it just solar power but with extra steps?
Sounding more and more like normal Europe, you hate to see it
if they have less solar radiation reaching the earth does that mean they fixed global warming?
From the way it's headed, China is on track IRL . 🤣
to be fare traffic in Chinese cities is a nightmare and a half
I have a feeling cyberpunk 2077 nailed our future to a tee... self fulfilling prophecy??
This sounds all so real... oh no
2:20 man, china be putting GPS trackers onto bicycles
Even in 2077, people still mispronounce "Nevada"
Noooo! Why Bulgaria?
Seems a bit odd that in the 2020 setting Europe had very hands on governments, but in 2077 they're all out neoliberal and everything has gone to shit (Europe having been one of the less shit places on Earth in cyberpunk).
The 2020 setting was written a long time ago in real life. Europe, or rather the EU, is now seen a more and more neo-liberal, with several scandals of lobbying (corpo influence one can say). Rewritting this part is just an update with the modern critics. I think CP 2077 acknowledge the 2020 situation and justifies the drastic turn with the corporate wars and faillure of several governments.
@@arthrogeddon928 interesting take, Europe is seen more or less declining (incredibly sluggish growth, falling academic perfomance continent wide, and the rapid-militarization due to the ukraine war). Although 50 years and no real disasters (until 2077) is an impressive mark, especially for the cyberpunk timeline. So CDPR need to add some stuff to spice things up
Ngl Gillean Jordan looks kinda good
fuck i didnt even think about that, imagine 2077china if usa is this bad, bloody hell!
weird
i was unable to read your channel (only blank card for over a minute)
ok ... same issue with other channels
Typical day on YT
Btw the new BG3 patch is now out. Sadly my Internet connection sucks, so probably won't have anything until tomorrow. Its around a 50GB download
@@Kazuliski its not normal for me to watch blank pages instead of channels
@@Kazuliski are you joking ???!!! just the fact that it already out there makes me excited
damn that last one come true! china is taking people bikes of all kind away from people!
Air pollution in Bulgaria is a real life problem already lmao
So I'm watching the video and then the then I add pops up selling trucks and I thought it was the actual video then it switched over the real thing either the Matrix had a matrix Has Broken or we're kind of line up to that future mantis blades here I come
This is Warsaw 1:03
They kinda forgor nuclear power tho
All that time and effort and they didn't look up how to pronounce Nevada.
i wonder if they are using nuclear energy
Poles burning tires again smh
Sounds like something China will do, and I've lived there
Then how can you comment in here?
@@gilbertabadi4686 "lived" past tense i fucked outta there, plus expressvpn exist
@@hueykratos the fact they are putting gps trackers on bikes
@@mrpopo5097 they're putting micro chips up ur arse!
Nonsense about solar panels
It’s happening lmao
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