That would give a call of duty villain to justifying create Cordis Die decades later and as the world gotten worse, his organization would become a anonymous and occupy Wall Street times with western socialists and many antifa groups times 100 or so. Maybe a fan base of almost a billion people or more so.
@@doubleoyimmy1572 Yeah was gunna say, just the other day I saw an article, apparently some republicans are running on the idea as an alternative to wars in the mideast.
i mean the US Gov is a latge ponderous beast whos policies often work at cross purposes with one and other. well the DEA make efforts to destroy drug fileds etc the CIA arm and fund or armed and funded orginisations tied to the drug trade
i really love your videos man. the detail you go in, the atmosphere you set, the music you choose. i absolutely love it. for your vids i usually sit down and have a meal to it, to really enjoy it like a series. keep it up man!
@@all4chaos910 I live in the states, dude. I'm simply acknowledging how the United States has done its fair share of wrong. Vietnam, Afghanistan, all the assassination committed by the alphabet soup organizations. To be clear, i'm not bashing the military or the members of these organizations, i'm calling out the leaders. The government. The ones calling the shots and deciding how it all gets done.
@@all4chaos910 I live in the states, man. I'm just pointing out that our nation has done bad things, seemingly fairly often. It was meant jokingly. Im not trying to shit on the military, either, so I don't know where you're going with that part.
I never understood why they invaded they should have just put a dictadorship like they did in real life In my country there was a war that lasted from the 70s to the 90s they called it central america's vietnam And it sure looked like it
Probably bc that already happened. Fool me once and all that. And also bc the American tactic of propping up “capitalist” dictators was very much a product of its time. The political climate has to be just right to pull something like that. Not to mention a lot of those dictatorships had no benefit for the states. The only ones that really got us anything were the banana republics, and I mean, there are more valuable things in that region than fruit.
It's funny that the US in this timeline essentially created a hispanidad movement. Just gotta throw in Spain and the Philippines, and the whole empire is back together again
I guess it’s meant to be a showcase of americas interventions in Panama and Grenada in the 80s and 90s on steriods, and what if it all went wrong again.
Just earned yourself a new subscriber. Weaning off from Halo for a bit to get invested in Cyberpunk again, and your lore videos have certainly helped! Thank you!
I was lookin for lore vid on cyberpunk because i love lore and i happened to have found your channel its really something not only does it cover cyberpunk but fallout too this is truly a amazing content creator man and its well narrated and edited.
Great videos, I love them! "Southern American" and "South American" are not interchangeable terms. Countries like Peru or Colombia are on the continent of South America, "southern America" would widely be understood to refer to states like Florida, Mississippi etc. Thanks again for the videos, keep em coming!
@@nxxynx5039 which English speaking countries call the continent with Canada "Northern America" and the continent with Brazil "Southern America" in an official capacity?
I just want to say that I started playing in 1988 when I bought the original release at my local game shop with some money I had leftover from Christmas and I absolutely love your lore videos. Sadly that original game was lost in a flood along with my Top Secret game box and contents as well as around 8,000 Beta and Revised edition magic cards and my Car Wars novels along with all of my original Car Wars game items. Thankfully I was at least able to save all of my first edition D&D set as it was in a lucky spot in the house in a different room on an upper floor and never even got wet so that is a small victory. Also as a side note, TH-cam is doing TH-cam things again so I had to re-subscribe to the channel yet again as it showed I wasn't subscribed. That is the 8th channel this week I was randomly unsubscribed from.
idk if there is more backstory as to how the American countries came together or not, it kinda ignores a lot of context of those countries in the 20th century to somehow make it work, i know that the Cyberpunk world deviates from the real world somewhere in between the late 80s and early 90s, but that makes the union between these countries even weirder. I am from Guatemala, the CIA made a coup in the 50s and put a U.S backed dictator up until the late 90s, from the 60s to 90s there was a civil war in here because of it (and for many other things, of course), so to say that my country, which in our timeline is nothing more than a lapdog of the U.S even to this day, went against the U.S and joined the other american countries is kinda... laughable, so is El Salvador doing it because they went through a U.S coup and backed dictatorship too. Honestly it is one of if not the only really weird lore bit that i have seen in the Cyberpunk universe, maybe there is an explanation to how it happened that i am missing or something, so if anyone that sees my comment and knows the answer please do explain.
the media never talked about dictators, not the media on the us, they dont know. it was probably written on surface level information, is still "realistic" if you dont know what goes on central america
@@WiseFish Ive always heard it pronounced without the U, I have also mostly heard Americans pronounce it. I just said it was interesting because ive never heard it before, totally valid to pronounce it with the u my friend
@@triskelion4101 you should hear someone from the deep south US say it. It sounds like a racial slur followed by the Spanish word for water. That one completely took me by surprise when someone was talking about the countries he had visited.
Awesome video, bad analysis of the Vietnam War, but i suspect its because the lore put into the setting by the creator. But at least it shows cause and effect
Exactly this scenario is basically kinda playing out as we type except it's Russia invading it's neighbor with the whole world against them rather than the usa, it's actually kinda scary how prophetic it is.
Central and South America are too divided and corrupt and many are already US puppets who will cave to US pressure without them ever needing to use military force. So this isnt realistic.
@@jorgegustavo8329 last I checked it was Russia that walked into Ukraine demanding surrender fucking the're nation over for the foreseeable future so yeah all of this could have been avoided if Russia did not invade , you could argue that this is a proxy war by the USA vs Russia and you might actually have a point, but anybody with eyes to see and a functioning brain can see that this was an invasion by russia.
It would be amazing if cpdr added a dlc where we can play Johnny Sliverhand how he grew up and inlisted the the corpo war and how it made him into wat we see in the game ,i mean ive been playing alot of mass effect the legendary edition and i really enjoy how ur choices matter and carry on tho the trilogy ,i wish cdpr did that with cyderpunk and their sequels
IDK but this guys sounds like Houndish from destiny 2? Jokes aside, US created a civil war in my country Guatemala decades ago, so the cyberpunk lore is somewhat true 🙃
@@FUnzzies1The USA already destabilized Latin America and invaded countries on false pretenses for economic reasons. This really isn't that far from reality.
Cant we get games that is other countries than the USA? its rather annoying. Fallout series is about USA wich is fine. But cyberpunk could been better if in an other world.
Wait really? Even in a world where technical literacy is far more common, people were still worried about y2k? Even computer engineers knew better than that in the 1990s
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Panamá getting invaded in our timeline: 💀
Panama getting invaded in Cyberpunk timeline: 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
That would give a call of duty villain to justifying create Cordis Die decades later and as the world gotten worse, his organization would become a anonymous and occupy Wall Street times with western socialists and many antifa groups times 100 or so. Maybe a fan base of almost a billion people or more so.
It’s so amazing just how deep Cyberpunk’s lore goes. It’s definitely my favorite worlds to read and learn more about. Excellent video!
I watch these like its the History Channel lol
It started as a pen and paper RPG. If the lore didnt go deep it'd be a shitty PnP RPG.
@@MaggotInfestedGodttrpgs should be adapted more often tbh, I’m still amazed it took so long for cyberpunk to get adapted, one of my fav worlds
Wake up babe, new Wisefish lore video.
@teratism🫵🏽🤓
No
I think it's kind of sweet that Mike Pondsmith thought the US government would be fighting AGAINST the drug lords.
Sweet summer child
Only because they were trying to invade and take over the territory controlled by the drug lords
There's politicians who actually support US troops in Mexico
@@doubleoyimmy1572 Yeah was gunna say, just the other day I saw an article, apparently some republicans are running on the idea as an alternative to wars in the mideast.
i mean the US Gov is a latge ponderous beast whos policies often work at cross purposes with one and other. well the DEA make efforts to destroy drug fileds etc the CIA arm and fund or armed and funded orginisations tied to the drug trade
i really love your videos man. the detail you go in, the atmosphere you set, the music you choose. i absolutely love it. for your vids i usually sit down and have a meal to it, to really enjoy it like a series. keep it up man!
This lore series has kept me on Cyberpunk! Great content! ;)
If I had to pick five words to describe Cyberpunk it’d be: “And then it got worse…”
So this scenario is ironically a better scenario for the rest of the continent
“The United States within the Cyberpunk timeline hasn’t always been known for it’s honorable actions…” So just like real life
Yeah I sure hope the US never interferes and engineers conflicts in latin American countries irl 😅
Literally the first part made me go “hows this different?”
shit talking the states huh if the military is ever allowed to go full bore honorable has shit to do with war.
@@all4chaos910 I live in the states, dude. I'm simply acknowledging how the United States has done its fair share of wrong. Vietnam, Afghanistan, all the assassination committed by the alphabet soup organizations. To be clear, i'm not bashing the military or the members of these organizations, i'm calling out the leaders. The government. The ones calling the shots and deciding how it all gets done.
@@all4chaos910 I live in the states, man. I'm just pointing out that our nation has done bad things, seemingly fairly often. It was meant jokingly. Im not trying to shit on the military, either, so I don't know where you're going with that part.
I never understood why they invaded they should have just put a dictadorship like they did in real life
In my country there was a war that lasted from the 70s to the 90s they called it central america's vietnam
And it sure looked like it
Probably bc that already happened. Fool me once and all that. And also bc the American tactic of propping up “capitalist” dictators was very much a product of its time. The political climate has to be just right to pull something like that. Not to mention a lot of those dictatorships had no benefit for the states. The only ones that really got us anything were the banana republics, and I mean, there are more valuable things in that region than fruit.
This was the bad ending.
It's funny that the US in this timeline essentially created a hispanidad movement. Just gotta throw in Spain and the Philippines, and the whole empire is back together again
I guess it’s meant to be a showcase of americas interventions in Panama and Grenada in the 80s and 90s on steriods, and what if it all went wrong again.
Blame America cause we can't blame our shitty country.
Just earned yourself a new subscriber. Weaning off from Halo for a bit to get invested in Cyberpunk again, and your lore videos have certainly helped! Thank you!
Ya gonk
Nic-ar-ah-gwa
Nicaragua
That Nic-ar-ag-yu-ah was killin' me
Texas becoming independent kinda accurate
I don't know if there's enough for a full video but lore on both Trauma Team and Maxtac would be cool
Should’ve annexed Canada like in fallout
and just Mexico, don't spread yourselves too thin.
Oh yes, it's empire time
I was lookin for lore vid on cyberpunk because i love lore and i happened to have found your channel its really something not only does it cover cyberpunk but fallout too this is truly a amazing content creator man and its well narrated and edited.
Love listening to these in my office 👍👌
Us fans:oh god what a disgrace
Latam fans: WE FUCKING WON!
cervezita
Great videos, I love them! "Southern American" and "South American" are not interchangeable terms. Countries like Peru or Colombia are on the continent of South America, "southern America" would widely be understood to refer to states like Florida, Mississippi etc. Thanks again for the videos, keep em coming!
That only follows for US peeps. The terms work differently in non-US centered nations
@@nxxynx5039 which English speaking countries call the continent with Canada "Northern America" and the continent with Brazil "Southern America" in an official capacity?
@@bk83082what you guys tlaking about?
@@bk83082clearly english people you spaz
American greed never ends in cyberpunk.😺
Another awesome video, as always! Many thanks!
So basically is the central American banana republics situation all over again
Your screenshots are taken with such good graphics that I occasionally have to double take to see if they’re real or in-game
Gonna need that Oil!
Ah just in time some perfect listening before sleep
Wow imagine how truly evil this timeline is…America interfering in Central American politics???hahaha…could you imagine living in that timeline….
I just want to say that I started playing in 1988 when I bought the original release at my local game shop with some money I had leftover from Christmas and I absolutely love your lore videos. Sadly that original game was lost in a flood along with my Top Secret game box and contents as well as around 8,000 Beta and Revised edition magic cards and my Car Wars novels along with all of my original Car Wars game items. Thankfully I was at least able to save all of my first edition D&D set as it was in a lucky spot in the house in a different room on an upper floor and never even got wet so that is a small victory.
Also as a side note, TH-cam is doing TH-cam things again so I had to re-subscribe to the channel yet again as it showed I wasn't subscribed. That is the 8th channel this week I was randomly unsubscribed from.
The scary part is this is starting to become a reality
no
@@sneaky5141 lmao ok
idk if there is more backstory as to how the American countries came together or not, it kinda ignores a lot of context of those countries in the 20th century to somehow make it work, i know that the Cyberpunk world deviates from the real world somewhere in between the late 80s and early 90s, but that makes the union between these countries even weirder.
I am from Guatemala, the CIA made a coup in the 50s and put a U.S backed dictator up until the late 90s, from the 60s to 90s there was a civil war in here because of it (and for many other things, of course), so to say that my country, which in our timeline is nothing more than a lapdog of the U.S even to this day, went against the U.S and joined the other american countries is kinda... laughable, so is El Salvador doing it because they went through a U.S coup and backed dictatorship too.
Honestly it is one of if not the only really weird lore bit that i have seen in the Cyberpunk universe, maybe there is an explanation to how it happened that i am missing or something, so if anyone that sees my comment and knows the answer please do explain.
the media never talked about dictators, not the media on the us, they dont know.
it was probably written on surface level information, is still "realistic" if you dont know what goes on central america
The goat of lore
That was an interesting way to pronounce Nicuragua
That’s how I’ve always heard it said I dono what I said wrong
@@WiseFish Ive always heard it pronounced without the U, I have also mostly heard Americans pronounce it. I just said it was interesting because ive never heard it before, totally valid to pronounce it with the u my friend
@@WiseFish Fantastic Vid BTW keep them coming plz
@@triskelion4101 you should hear someone from the deep south US say it. It sounds like a racial slur followed by the Spanish word for water. That one completely took me by surprise when someone was talking about the countries he had visited.
Yessss...love your videos
Absolutely love your videos and work with other creators
Awesome video, bad analysis of the Vietnam War, but i suspect its because the lore put into the setting by the creator. But at least it shows cause and effect
So they abandoned military units..the exact same thing as when they did that in Afghanistan last year..Mike pondsmith is a genius
Am i the only one who thinks we're kind of inching towards this in real life..?
Exactly this scenario is basically kinda playing out as we type except it's Russia invading it's neighbor with the whole world against them rather than the usa, it's actually kinda scary how prophetic it is.
@@cecollins68the us isn't invading sall outh America...yet
Central and South America are too divided and corrupt and many are already US puppets who will cave to US pressure without them ever needing to use military force. So this isnt realistic.
@@cecollins68you really think the usa aint invading?
@@jorgegustavo8329 last I checked it was Russia that walked into Ukraine demanding surrender fucking the're nation over for the foreseeable future so yeah all of this could have been avoided if Russia did not invade , you could argue that this is a proxy war by the USA vs Russia and you might actually have a point, but anybody with eyes to see and a functioning brain can see that this was an invasion by russia.
This intro kills me. So, the US is pretty well *exactly* as it is in our timeline?
lmao, remember kids, "democracy" is non-negotiable
Hmm?
Think Iran-Contra but if the CIA was even more demonic.
Except it declines faster than in our real life timeline
Except it's not.
Imagine conducting a literal war in drugs, and the host-countries economy collapses as they say “no actually we kinda need drugs pls”
That pronunciation of Nicaragua was funny
If I had Tweeter i would follow you!
It would be amazing if cpdr added a dlc where we can play Johnny Sliverhand how he grew up and inlisted the the corpo war and how it made him into wat we see in the game ,i mean ive been playing alot of mass effect the legendary edition and i really enjoy how ur choices matter and carry on tho the trilogy ,i wish cdpr did that with cyderpunk and their sequels
I’m just waiting to hear about cyborg Sandinistas and contras
I honestly don’t doubt that the real us would end up just like this or very similar
Trump wants to do this. As kind of like the last foreign intervention before the third world war.
@@ILovePancakes24 I would honestly accept it the us is horrible rn I’ll be in the republic of Texas 🤣💯
South and Central America are way too divided and corrupt to ever unite effectively against the US so no this is unrealistic.
So cool to see my the impact of South American countries (including my own) in Cyberpunk.
"This Iraq war was a travesty that we should never have started."
Cyberpunk: Hold my beer.
Cyberpunk lore!!!
:D ANOTHER ONE!
Posting a comment just cause I love your videos !!!!
Will there be another video talking about Warhammer40k about the realm of Ultramarine?
I don't care about proper pronounciation but your anglicised version of "nicaragua" is beyond hilarious.
IDK but this guys sounds like Houndish from destiny 2?
Jokes aside, US created a civil war in my country Guatemala decades ago, so the cyberpunk lore is somewhat true 🙃
They also facilitated a genocide in your country. And precipitated the conditions that led to it.
Yeah I sure hope the US never interferes and engineers conflicts in latin American countries irl 😅
European brushfire wars video drop when
The first 60 seconds of the video - so kinda like real life?
Do they not teach history anymore?
So the cannal was the reason usa when into war
"Don't mess with our boats."
I enjoy your lore videos, but this one had me twitching from your pronunciation of Nicaragua.
"Ni kr aa gwuh"
You're killing me Wise guy.
Dopeness.
This is giving me strong vibes of what's happening with the Russian/ Ukraine war
I had arisen
sounds oddly familiar like real life events...
No, it doesn't.
@@FUnzzies1why are you defending usa so hard?Its pretty similar in the eyes of non usa people,like...almost everyone eyes
@@FUnzzies1The USA already destabilized Latin America and invaded countries on false pretenses for economic reasons. This really isn't that far from reality.
So many breakdown videos on here now about how garbage gfuels ingredients are. Much better choices out there
i might need to buy the dead space pack and just never drink it. I love dead space but I'm not a huge fan of gfuel.
lol if you don't drink it why would you even buy it??
We're are you finding the lore the table top game??
I can't find any published lore anywhere.
Through the wiki, in game shards and through Reddit posts from the creator and others mainly. Some in the CP2077 book as well
Just in time for lunch!
Did usa invade or threat brazil in this universe?
Why do a lot of these soldiers look more like saints row characters
Hondujistan
Dang, glad global superpowers aren’t invading their neighbors in the real world right now 👀
Heh, the thumbnail looks like Demi Moore
>Europe having a strong military
lol, lmao even.
Green's go home
Wake the F## up Samurai. We have a WiseFish video to watch.
Cant we get games that is other countries than the USA? its rather annoying. Fallout series is about USA wich is fine. But cyberpunk could been better if in an other world.
Mike pondsmith wrote this in like the 80s or some shit. It's not as if they just decided that it's gonna be us based.
As soon as you start making/funding them we will start seeing them.
I can't believe all these major intellectual properties that come from America are based on America!
There are plenty. Night City is exactly where this game should've taken place
@@ethanleffler9969 yeah I agree with it. But could be Nice to see more Lore on EU or china and such
Wait really? Even in a world where technical literacy is far more common, people were still worried about y2k?
Even computer engineers knew better than that in the 1990s
🇵🇦 🇭🇳 🕺🏾
If you don't mind me asking what's the name of the background music ,great video as always man
LoL, as good as this video is, out of principle i will never support anything remotely associated with CDPR
They just make the video game. Mike Pondsmith deserves support for this world-building alone aswell as his board games.
It took an anime to revive this dead game 😂
Gotta say just don’t like this guy.
Before we get started? Its almost at 2 min and you havent started? Hard pass on this channel. Just do what we came here for, i already watched 2 ads so about 3 minutes just to see more cash grabs with a sponsor. F that