SHOULD YOU REMOVE A DPF FROM YOUR DIESEL?

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  • @GeorgeAusters
    @GeorgeAusters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I HAVE NOW FIXED THE ISSUE: th-cam.com/video/Ff60sMnS5z8/w-d-xo.html

    • @nickbarne3832
      @nickbarne3832 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Change the back pressure sensor always the issue when it won’t regen

  • @cubleycat
    @cubleycat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I totally agree with you. So the average 10 year old car will end up being scraped because something fitted to it fails and costs too much to fix, now this complete car is going to have to be recycled which is counter productive and will generate pollution getting rid of it and then another car will be built to replace it causing even more damage to the environment. It is far better to keep a good car going until it is truly beyond its usefulness.

    • @GeorgeAusters
      @GeorgeAusters  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly!

    • @dcform
      @dcform ปีที่แล้ว

      Its only bad for the environment when companies cannot make money from it or when government cannot make tax from it

  • @markymark7200
    @markymark7200 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I checked the back pressure before the dpf using ista, maybe try that to see if its blocked. It revs up the engine by itself apart from the last check, great to watch.

  • @kennytheamazing
    @kennytheamazing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just did a long 1000km autobahn trip in my 2015 316d touring, after 2 years of mostly short-ish trips because of the pandemic. Car feels a lot better than it did before, consumption went way down.

  • @louisbrett3604
    @louisbrett3604 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hi George, 4:32, it says “as soon as the fault no longer occurs, the DDE will perform a normal regeneration” the car may not be able to regenerate because of the fault code. the exhaust pressure might be too high to regen?

  • @felipef6516
    @felipef6516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    As others have mentioned you should not keep the revs high... Measure the exhaust gas temp before DPF and you'll see it start steadily climbing once above 50mph, when hot enough should start burning the soot mass.... You should also check to see if coolant temp drops below 60c when driving over 50 over a long period of time. If so it is your thermostats.. i would measure these parameters with ista whilst driving by recording the screen or something... see if the soot mass & ash goes down at all (passive regen)..

  • @1965Haval
    @1965Haval 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Hi George. I can see your problem on the ISTA while you are driving very clearly. Your back pressure reading is way too high. The ecu won’t start a regeneration unless the back pressure according the ISTA SHOULD BE WITHIN THESE RANGES: less than 35 mbar at idle, less than 75 mbar at 2000 RPM and less than 200 mbar at cut off engine RPM which is about 4000 RPM. The ISTA will do that test for you. It will rev the engine automatically during the test and the end will tell you the 3 readings and the maximum permissible values as I mentioned above. It is a safety feature because a regen with a heavily blocked dpf might set a fire. Of course you know your both egr and main engines thermostat should be working fine, the diesel in the tank as you mentioned shouldn’t be low, of course your glow plugs and the control unit should be working, good working egr and no fault code stored in the ecu. Another reason for such high back pressure reading is a a faulty back pressure sensor which is about £30. I had the same problem. I had an on car dpf cleaning twice. It doesn’t work. What I did I took the dpf to a place near Blackpool, I live in northwest, they pump flush cleaned the dpf in about an hour for £150 just then BINGO, the pressure readings came down hugely just like what you get from a brand new dpf. Of course there is a very important thing which most of people don’t know. In the ecu software if the mileage of the car is 150 000 miles then even if the dpf is not blocked and other parameters are normal, still the dpf won’t regenerate until you go through a dpf replacement procedure in the ISTA, even if you physically installed a brand new OME DPF. By the way my car is 520d, M47 engine, 57 registration plate. Hope that will help you. Again please don’t spend any money on ON CAR DPF cleaning, specially you can take out the dpf out of the car your self. Good luck

    • @kirwanjohn101
      @kirwanjohn101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello, are you suggesting to reset the Dpf counter?

    • @1965Haval
      @1965Haval 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kirwanjohn101 if the DPF cleaned professionally and the back pressure is reading really low, something like less than 10 mbar at idle, then sure you need to reset the DPF which I think it will give you another 250000 km.

    • @benhamilton9184
      @benhamilton9184 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This happened to my sister's 1 series, told it the dpf had been changed and it fixed it

    • @pawelnotts
      @pawelnotts 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It will regenerate, you just need to keep clearing the errors. While on the motorway it slowly regens passively and it increases exhaust temperature regardless of the backpressure. Mine used to get to about 400-450C for about 10 minutes before chucking an error and failing. You need to clear the error while driving and carry on until eventually it will passively unblock itself enough to blast the temps to 600-650C. Once it hits that it usually clears the soot all the way through.

  • @scatton61
    @scatton61 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a Peugeot 3008 Diesel Hybrid (2014) and it performs a Re-Gen automatically and tells me that it is doing it.

  • @Noyota2
    @Noyota2 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    In some countries, a dpf delete will render your vehicle unroadworthy, therefore also not insurable. The legal issues could easily escalate. Replacing a dpf is cheaper.

  • @nmeister67
    @nmeister67 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've had my 2006 E91 330d for 6 years and never had any major problems or error messages. Only issue I've had is the old quacking EGR valve issue. Replaced with another used part from ebay for £20 and another 2 years in without issue. When taking out the old EGR it wasn't overly mucky either.
    Don't know if this is testament to the 6 pot diesel, good servicing or just luck. Do mainly town driving, but do have a 1 or 2 30min drives at 60mph every month. Either way looks like I'm one of the lucky ones 😅

  • @MrGreen_
    @MrGreen_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Best thing I ever did .. cut along welds clean out ceramic muck ..re weld then remapped
    Job done ✔️

    • @s3948
      @s3948 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did pass mot

  • @francisrich1731
    @francisrich1731 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had same problem. The other condition required is engine coolant temp above 75°. I checked the thermostat in a saucepan and thermometer and it was opening at 68° changed for a new one and bingo, finally regenerated.

  • @jaylobster
    @jaylobster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi George great vid. I have a audi a3 2015 keep having the glow light flashing and goes into limp mode especially when the engines cold revs at 1000 rpm all the time switch engine off and back on again light stops flashing and it goes out of limp mode no dpf light though and no fault codes on diagnostics I'm just wondering if I have the same problem?

  • @kevindewitte4965
    @kevindewitte4965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Its a temperature sensor problem mate which is situated on the exhaust close to the motor.
    Now to clean your DPF just use DASTY Degreaser, let it sit overnight and it is brand new.I have use this on my dpf of my car and it worked amazingly.Dont need to spend 150£ to let your dpf flush and cleaned.

  • @Mike_5
    @Mike_5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Learnt a lot from this one Bud thank you

  • @35geordielad
    @35geordielad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had DPF problems on my Mitsubishi Outlander 2007, as the the car did not have a dedicated dpf icon but used the engine management light, this light commonly came on when the Dpf needed to be regenerated. However as the car had done over 100.000 miles it was a pain with engine fans keep come on and the car becoming quite hesitant at times when driven.
    I was advised due to the amount of miles on the clock the dpf woukd require replacing ....£££££

  • @bastaboom163
    @bastaboom163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video, very helpful. Waiting for the resolution !

  • @namron29748
    @namron29748 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had the same problem, in the end it was down to the Sensors and that was with a new DPF

  • @namron29748
    @namron29748 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had the exact same problem so I replaced the DPF filter and still had the same problem. In the end after around £2000 I replaced the exhaust sensor on the manifold and reset , worked fine but cost me a lot of money !!

  • @brianbrown9512
    @brianbrown9512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Similar problem with my 2016 Cx5, tried regen no luck. Actually the warning light came on when I was over 300km from home. I drove back at 120kph in outside temperatures of 35°c. Sweet FA!
    Eventually took it to Mazda Dealership, took them a few hours for a computer "burn off" 6 months on now, no problems fingers crossed!!
    If it does return I ll either remove it or do a chemical clean. Thankfully they're not mandatory here!! Cheers for the video George.

  • @albagardenmaintenance9518
    @albagardenmaintenance9518 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Absolutely agree with the dpf. I bought a Mk8 transit it had huge issues with the dpf till I deleted it along with the egr.

    • @laad6452
      @laad6452 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Did you pass an mot? I just had my egr and dpf mapped and the guy suggested removing the dpf but won’t this fail on emissions?

  • @wellsyandcars
    @wellsyandcars 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had the DPF light on mine and on inspection it was just the o2 sensor. Changed that and has been fine since.

  • @wellybobs4403
    @wellybobs4403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I had the same issues.. until I started using premium diesel and keeping the tank over half full. You will get a shock at MOT time when they see you removed the DPF... Its an automatic fail and there is a large fine for the driver... Replace the DPF pressure sensor I guarantee thats why you are unable to get the regen done...

    • @getnyrb
      @getnyrb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Premium fuel - - agree. I have had issues in the past using supermarket fuel.

  • @alin-stelianbadescu9282
    @alin-stelianbadescu9282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    From what I know, the regen starts when driving at over 60 kph, but the engine should not be revved over 2500rpm. It should work somewhere between 2000 and 2500 rpm. I have an E90 320d as well, and had no issues with my dpf until now. Hope that helps 👍

  • @simonkeable391
    @simonkeable391 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hi George I suspect it wont re-gen because the dpf is blocked at the back with ash. Dpf's do have a limited lifespan & will only re-gen so many times before they need replacing because when it re-gens whilst it burns the soot out this process produces ash which can't be removed/burnt out of the dpf, & the ash builds up at the back of the dpf causing the differential pressures from the front to the back of the dpf become too large (implausible) giving you the trouble codes I think you've got. I had a problem with a ford galaxy that wouldn't re-gen. It had similar trouble codes & would go through the motions but would not re-gen. It turned out that the differential pressures form the front of the dpf to the rear of the dpf were too great which think is what your diagnostics are suggesting. There are companies that clean dpf's & they always clean them back to front to force the ash out of the front of the dpf. In my case the dpf was too far gone & had to be replaced because the diesel catalytic converter had broken up & also blocked the dpf. once I replaced the catalytic converter & dpf the car did a re-gen straight away without me having to request one because it was happy with the differential pressures. I also found out that some dpf's re-gen much more frequently than most people think as watching it on live data after I had done the repair it regenerated several times on a 60 minute journey & that was with all new parts. I hope this help you.

    • @antoniocarsa3356
      @antoniocarsa3356 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      BMW cars have backpressure sensor not differential pressure sensor. It uses only one hose plugged from the DPF

    • @simonkeable391
      @simonkeable391 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Antonio Carsa what I meant was there are two pressure sensors one at the front & one at the back of the dpf & the ecu measures the difference between the two sensors, hence differential pressure

    • @antoniocarsa3356
      @antoniocarsa3356 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@simonkeable391 BMW does not have a pressure sensor after DPF. There are two sensors. One mounted before the turbocharger in the exhaust manifold and one before the DPF/OxyCat. The backpressure measurement is based on the difference between the pressure read with engine off and with engine running.

  • @garethvincent3806
    @garethvincent3806 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Completely agree with your summary at the end mate.

  • @chrispearson6453
    @chrispearson6453 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Had similar on my e60 530d, turned out to be an injector issue which failed attempts to regen

  • @nekite1
    @nekite1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My Alfa 159 tells me when it needs a dpf regeneration on the dashboard - mine is the later 2.0 jtdm. Alfa placed the dpf nearer to the exhaust manifold in the 2.0 models, which makes the regen far more efficient.

  • @YouTube-are-Toilet-Scum.
    @YouTube-are-Toilet-Scum. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Removing that would be a guaranteed MOT fail.

    • @afleo7475
      @afleo7475 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not if you know a guy that knows a guy 😏

  • @simonh870
    @simonh870 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    I have never had an issue with the DPF on any car which I have had, and I don't do huge miles. Removing it makes your car illegal and uninsurable, so if it is working fine then leave it in place. Most failures seem to stem from other issues anyway which cause it not to regen properly. Failed thermostats being a common one.

    • @paulmcdonald8055
      @paulmcdonald8055 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      EGR is a major headache too!!!

    • @simonh870
      @simonh870 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@paulmcdonald8055 They can be, I haven't had major issues on any of my diesel cars but the one on my N57 is mapped out. (but still in place if anyone tries to look at it)

    • @TheJbsportstech
      @TheJbsportstech 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you understand how the car works they can be managed quite well. My new petrol car has a ppf

    • @n1msu
      @n1msu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Totally agree, nanocarbon molecules are filtered for a reason as they cause cancer.

    • @gulag8735
      @gulag8735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thermostat.
      Glow plugs.
      Glow plug module.
      Driving around on an empty tank all the time.
      Short journeys.
      Crapy diesel.
      Crapy fuel filter.
      Crapy engine oil.
      The list is absolutely endless.

  • @chrismurray3198
    @chrismurray3198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Never had any issues with regens. I was told if you use the wrong oil it can cause issues with regen process

  • @peteryoungpeteryoung965
    @peteryoungpeteryoung965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My 5 series 2.0d is ten years old, done 120,000 miles and I have never had a problem with dpf. I was told that constant around town driving is the main cause of issues.

    • @garlicnaan1
      @garlicnaan1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Correct!!!

    • @michaelbamber4887
      @michaelbamber4887 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a bmw e65 730d with 169,000 miles and my dpf its totally fine. Bmw dpfs are usually bomb proof, never had any bother, mine regens when your driving in town even. In the family we have 320d a 335d, 730d, x3 2.0d, 520d, x1 2.0d and a x5 3.0d. I have friends with diesel bmws and no problems.

  • @norwegianzound
    @norwegianzound 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My brakes are squealing. I know I'll remove them. Sorted!

  • @matty_mcmattface
    @matty_mcmattface 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't know about diesels, is a DPF just for emissions? is there and performance difference with or without it?

  • @SuperBobbster
    @SuperBobbster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hey George, enjoying the content.
    My previous car (Octavia VRS CR TDI), would regen fairly regulary, probably every other month. I would know it was doing it because the idle speed would sit at 1000rpm rather than 750rpm as normal. If I finished my journey and it was idling high, I'd know it was doing it's regen and carry on driving for a little while. Do BMWs not do this? Seems a bit rubbish to not know when it's doing a regen!

    • @GeorgeAusters
      @GeorgeAusters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not that I’ve noticed mate

    • @terrybooya6132
      @terrybooya6132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I’ve got a 2005 e90 330d manual and the few ways I can tell it’s in regen mode is that it wants to hold a high rev range feels like it wants to push a bit more than what your holding on the accelerator.
      also a sharp little push on accelerator and you get a sound like it’s puffing out steam and a slight bit of movement but this I’m sure you’d only be able to do in a manual.
      I’ve have my 330d for 6yrs and it regularly does a 200 mile regen so I click the mileage reset bottom so I know it’s soon going to happen. Got the car on 85k and it’s now on 116k.

    • @piovo5222
      @piovo5222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@terrybooya6132 6 years and you’ve done about 30k?

    • @terrybooya6132
      @terrybooya6132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@piovo5222 yeah about 30k. And I’ve had my fair share of the DPF getting blocked. Never experienced limp mode tho

    • @piovo5222
      @piovo5222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@terrybooya6132 I’m surprised everything’s not blocked to be honest.

  • @markbrady4622
    @markbrady4622 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had a 520d e60 m47 engine with the same dpf problem and same fault codes, I cleared the codes then requested a regeneration and then changed from ista to inpa started the car and drove it while someone kept pressing the erase fault codes button on the laptop as inpa erased the codes continuously and quicker than ista, this worked for me

  • @madanto2394
    @madanto2394 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The problem started when car manufacturers stated in the late 90's the new commonrail diesel injection engine's would never need the glow plugs replaced.
    That's why dpf/egr exists today but just to replace glow plugs every 30k was all that was required.

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a 2008 diesel. New enough for common rail old enough to not have a DPF. It goes like stink and if you rev it you almost always get black smoke. Its always serviced and runs perfectly.

  • @dadsade09ai9diadksladwaop
    @dadsade09ai9diadksladwaop 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I agree with the DPF removal from the 10th year onwards. I bought an used E81, 14 years old. Soon the DPF light went on, but as a new car owner, I talked to a friend and by his advice tried to fix it by regen, long drive at 2000rpm. My fault. The result was the turbine broke it's axis after a highway drive. Everything's ok now, but the high pressure from a blocked DPF is not something to be neglected, no matter the extent of blockage.

  • @TheMrgonzo76
    @TheMrgonzo76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I believe the n47 dpf service light comes on at 150k saying to change it ,I reset mine using diagnostics ,and cleaned it with using sol x cleaner.i have not had any problems since.The Nct test (national car test in Ireland) similar to mot in uk,are now starting to check cars soon to see if the dpf has been removed by using diagnostics and this will be a fail if no live data is seen for dpf.

  • @loveitorleaveit6868
    @loveitorleaveit6868 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Had the dpf removed from my vw van and it feels like it’s been racing tuned, I’m all for the dpf purge

  • @robertsykes5014
    @robertsykes5014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can only regen with the engine management system... my brother in law sorted mine after I had done what you did... plugged in the engine code thingy, looked for it, did what was needed then it was perfect again...

  • @Max-rd6xk
    @Max-rd6xk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You need someone sitting next to you deleting both of the dpf codes, that was the only way I managed to get mine to regen, but yes the DPF are the cause of a lot of trouble

    • @GeorgeAusters
      @GeorgeAusters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes I have a video coming on this👌🏼

  • @mikehollowell2245
    @mikehollowell2245 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi George superb video... feel your pain with the dpf system playing up only car I've had with any dpf problem was my 07 c max many years ago... Was never the same and just got rid of it. Want a F10 520d m sport in the near future... I love them! Everyone dreams of super cars! All I want is a F10 520d msport that's my dream car 👍

  • @TheMcooper17
    @TheMcooper17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i had a problem with mine, car wouldnt pull you out of bed, took it out profiessionaly cleaned and still running but you're right about them

  • @ferfire9
    @ferfire9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey George, nice video, recently been doing the same with dpf issues. Can i ask you about other think tho, my N47 when i turn it off it does not turn imidiately like a friend's e82, his engine shuts off normaly but mine takes a bit more revolutions and shudders a bit. What can cause that? I have already replaced the anti shudder valve.

    • @GeorgeAusters
      @GeorgeAusters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Any fault codes?

    • @ferfire9
      @ferfire9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@GeorgeAusters no fault codes

    • @bertbredewoud9303
      @bertbredewoud9303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Scotty Kilmer say's, give yourself a fancy scantool :-)

  • @delonghi2593
    @delonghi2593 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had an issue on my e250. The temperature sensor was faulty so the regeneration was not happening. Even when I was on the motorway for 2 hours.

  • @TheDilpesh
    @TheDilpesh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi pal I’ve got a 2010 Audi A3 2.0tdi. I get this dpf issue your getting but a motorway spin at 2.5k rpms & 20-30 mins tend to clear it

  • @davehi
    @davehi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just ran mine through with a hose and detergent works perfectly now

  • @rivolinho
    @rivolinho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is a red hot exhaust tip a sign car is in the middle of a regen?
    Have a 520d and noticed one day while standing behind it after a drive that the exhaust was making a tinkling sound and was red hot to touch.

  • @valval2518
    @valval2518 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello bro great video, can removing dpf cause problems with the engine

  • @keithmonk4503
    @keithmonk4503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just a note of support. To tackle such issues in real time is impressive. I agree with you on DPF. I have 13 year old 520D with 72k which has had a very easy life. It is only used on journeys over over 100 miles no short journeys. The car is immaculate but will I get another 7 yrs out of it. Its electric and high tech issues which will condemn it to the scrap heap which in a holistic view is not good. I will only buy Toyota from now on

  • @leadnsteel1428
    @leadnsteel1428 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have 280,000 km on the original dpf. Its good to take it on long trips. I also use cetane booster in the fuel.

  • @Koskisep
    @Koskisep 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you try Forte products?
    I'd managed to fix blocked DPF in Volvo V50 with Forte additative 😊. Engine oli had to change after this procedure...

  • @rabhaw2327
    @rabhaw2327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have had my 7 year old C4 115 bhp diesel for six years now and it has passed every MOT (4) with no advisories and I only do local urban driving. I have only replaced discs and pads on it so I hope I have it for another six.

  • @keithnewton8981
    @keithnewton8981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The trouble is if past owner have not looked after dpf then no amount of regen will work its either a clean hoping the surface are notvdamage or a new one
    Under the new mot the have to visually check for different and next year there will be a computer check if it missing then your car fails mot.

  • @johnj3577
    @johnj3577 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The problem with DPF's on BMW's is that they fill up with ash created by the soot being burned during re-gens. Eventually no amount of re-gens will work because the DPF is actually blocked with ash, not soot. I had a 530d and went through this process countless times. Nothing I did made any difference. Tried countless re-gens, passive and active. It drove me insane in the end.

    • @GeorgeAusters
      @GeorgeAusters  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch my other video, it’s sorted now

  • @schalkloots6988
    @schalkloots6988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It is illegal to drive your diesel vehicle without the dpf if one should be fitted in the UK . I put a dpf cleaner through the dpf to clean it and it passes MOT every time. You have to drive it afterwards but be warned to do it on a private road because it smokes for a while. It looks as if the mist came up from the ocean behind you but after that the dpf is clean and emissions are within limits.

    • @spudhead1161
      @spudhead1161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do you have your own private road?

  • @jimtaylor431
    @jimtaylor431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just to add George I also had the back pressure sensor signal warning as well .. my hunch is that it's not the sensor itself that's faulty (I bought another one and swapped it.. no difference!) but rather it's reading a high pressure value due to the blocked DPF and is therefore raising the fault code. It also seems the system is self defeating.. like it can't run a regen because it has a fault code.. but as you can't GET it to regen what the hell are you supposed to do? Ultimately as mentioned in another post I just replaced mine and it's been fine since... Verified that regenerations were happening since r replacement successfully. Though I haven't checked it in a while so maybe I should.. 😆
    I didn't take the route of DPF deletion due to the prospect of trouble at the MOT.

    • @GeorgeAusters
      @GeorgeAusters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have another video coming with a resolution👌🏼

    • @doctord8589
      @doctord8589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      they can't tell if done properly

    • @ronnieg6358
      @ronnieg6358 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@doctord8589 That's what I would have thought.

  • @litil18
    @litil18 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hello, the Ista D link that you have there doesn't work, can you please put a new link?
    Thank you, keep up the good work

    • @GeorgeAusters
      @GeorgeAusters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unfortunately all sellers have been taken down from BMW😢

  • @wallacegrommet9343
    @wallacegrommet9343 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My US spec 2014 VW Sportwagen was modded to remove the emissions cheat software after being sold back. I have not noticed the regen ever taking place. Will it show in the OBD2 codes with a basic code reader?

    • @GeorgeAusters
      @GeorgeAusters  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I doubt it, you likely need proper VAG software

  • @mariusica89
    @mariusica89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hi George, great video . I've seen someone a while ago showing how the dpf is not regenerating if the rev is over 2000 RPM even if is up to temperature, unfortunately I can'tfind the video again . Try to do a trip at a normal RPM 1800 - 2000 . Hope it helps !

    • @GeorgeAusters
      @GeorgeAusters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nothing to do with rev range mate. I have sorted it though, a video will be out in the near future👍🏻

    • @stormwizard1968
      @stormwizard1968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@GeorgeAusters hurry up lol im having the same problem right now on a 520d m sport lol
      keep up the good work mate well done

    • @patrickhosking613
      @patrickhosking613 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is only one problem or perhaps two. One, after a certain date, if your vehicle was fitted with a dpf and it is missing at time of mot test this vehicle will fail the test and that also includes if there is evidence of tampering of the dpf ie the internals being removed.
      Two doing this contravenes the construction and use regulations of the vehicle and VOSA will if you have been found to have tampered with your in such a way, will hit you hard with nasty legal stuff.
      To a certain extent I have sympathy with the people who own vehicles with dpf problems, because they are a pain in the arse.

    • @jamesangus9144
      @jamesangus9144 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are 100% correct to do a registration you need to keep the revs within normal driving range around 2000 rpm or just under. If you over rev it like in this video it wont regenerate.

  • @radudan365
    @radudan365 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    In Germany is illegal, if they caught you with dpf delete then you have big problems.

    • @GeorgeAusters
      @GeorgeAusters  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep German Tuv inspection is tough!

    • @wellsyandcars
      @wellsyandcars 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s also illegal to remove in uk will fail an mot if removed or visibly tampered with.

    • @radudan365
      @radudan365 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GeorgeAusters I bought a new dpf from Bosal and I was thinking to put in on only when I go to TÜV but if police stops me in traffic without dpf then It's bad, it is like my car is euro 0 and I prefer to make every 1-2 year a dpf and egr cleaning rather than risking to be caught, it's cheaper..

  • @kevb6313
    @kevb6313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Took my 3.5 year old Vauxhall Astra 2.0 Cd SRi into lookers (main dealer) in Oct 2015 with low oil pressure warning after the engine would crank as too much oil in system. Turned out the extra diesel that is pumped in to burn the exhaust gases is designed to be dumped into oil sump! - that was the last I saw of the car, Lookers tried regen and couldn’t after trying several things they told me the next thing to “try” was new injectors @ £2000 but could not guarantee that would work - told them I wanted Vauxhall involved but vauxhall point blank refused to do so - would never buy another Vauxhall on that basis again

  • @ozgurkekec50
    @ozgurkekec50 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When the car reaches approx 250k km approx 150k miles the dpf fault code will come up even if the dpf is still good because from factory the max usage of the dpf is 250k km. What you need to do is reset the dpf by telling the system that you have changed the dpf without really changing it. There are a couple of videos on TH-cam about this issue and on how to program this.

  • @blossmctoss
    @blossmctoss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Volvo v50 245000 miles no dpf issues though the front struts needs replacing worn out now and 1 top bearing cranking noise when I turn full lock towards the right .

  • @1983woz
    @1983woz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Check the hose that connects to the back pressure sensor, I believe its called the manifold pressure sensor hose. Did you or I should ask would you consider using additives to the fuel like Wynns DPF cleaner?

    • @GeorgeAusters
      @GeorgeAusters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      All additives essentially do is help the combustion temps thus the exhaust temps reach a little higher

    • @1983woz
      @1983woz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I see from your responses that you have rectified the problem. Looking forward to your update. Im assuming you removed and cleaned the DPF? To be honest I'm thinking of doing the same but I guess we will soon find out what you done 😉

  • @yetrarrub855
    @yetrarrub855 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great vid info. Can you tell me the legalities of removing be the dpf and egr...for mot etc...thanks.

    • @xMeta4x
      @xMeta4x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Technically illegal and should fail MOT. Don't actually remove the DPF, have it gutted (insides removed) then put back on and mapped out. The MOT check is simply to check the DPF is installed.

  • @decgunner
    @decgunner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would you have a link to where you bought your ista+ from mate ?

  • @harrymoon6060
    @harrymoon6060 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi George. I've done a DPF gut and a EGR electronic delete on a BMW N47,
    PROS: more power, 1L less diesel consumption.
    CONS: The exhaust makes a whistle, it blows some black smoke on heavy acceleration and it smells.
    My car had DPF+CAT on the same muffler, so when it was gutted we lost the Catalyst function too.
    I was thinking if i put an universal catalyst in the middle of the exhaust (my car doesn't have the middle muffler) i can catch 2 birds with 1 stone: reduce the whistle noise from the eaxhaust tip, and reduce the smell and the black smoke.
    Do you think it's plausible?

    • @GeorgeAusters
      @GeorgeAusters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Possibly!

    • @harrymoon6060
      @harrymoon6060 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@GeorgeAusters nevertheless, making all the calculations, a car without DPF that consumes 1L less/100km maybe it's more enviromental friendly than a car with a problematic DPF (almost all).

    • @bastaboom163
      @bastaboom163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should only delete dpf and leave cat in place.

    • @MiracleMitch
      @MiracleMitch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@harrymoon6060 It is the EGR delete (also illegal in the UK) that causes the biggest harm as NoX gases increase massively. These cause respiratory illnesses and lung diseases especially in young children. So better than a problematic DPF, no, not by a country mile.

    • @Mr330d
      @Mr330d 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The whistle noise is just the turbo when the wastegate moves when it starts it sounds like a jet

  • @antoniocarsa3356
    @antoniocarsa3356 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My BMW E91 320d LCI has 186k miles on it and it has the original DPF. The exhaust backpressure sensor should be changed every 60-70k miles (it`s a piezzo part and exhaust temperature along with soot will make it give wrong info to ecu). Also you should check your entire engine (worn injectors/turbo/piston rings will cause building up more soot in your dpf). Removing your dpf should be the last option and I would not recomend removing it unless your engine is pretty much worn out

  • @joehodgekins8423
    @joehodgekins8423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another great video bro!

  • @pauldby1479
    @pauldby1479 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It is only there to make governments feel better

    • @leadnsteel1428
      @leadnsteel1428 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't know about that because they said downtown London air smells like diesel.

  • @ahmetucar2901
    @ahmetucar2901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video thnx. What do you think about remove the catalitıc convector from e46 320d? Someone says pressure is down in low rpm so low torq?

    • @GeorgeAusters
      @GeorgeAusters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wouldn’t bother personally, unless you want more noise

    • @Mr330d
      @Mr330d 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you delete your cat you’ll gain quicker spool on the turbo

  • @john-paulb847
    @john-paulb847 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Maybe try taking it out and cleaning out with a good dpf cleaner and the pressure washer?

  • @0113mountainman
    @0113mountainman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi. I work in the filtration industry and wondered why people don’t change out the DPF for a new one if the filter is clearly clogged and issues persist? Is it particularly costly? Thanks.

    • @peterdavis226
      @peterdavis226 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very costly - Over $7,000 on my Mazda 6

  • @mjjr1000
    @mjjr1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Normally you have to clear codes before it will allow a regen.
    Had same issue once on my C30 but cleared codes and it allowed the regen then.
    I also ended up removing it a month later and washed it out snd fitted a hybrid turbo not had one issue since.

  • @oojimmyflip
    @oojimmyflip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ive got a 2.0ltr citroen C5 the ECU remembers old faults no matter what. so it may be that your old faults are still showing up after a regen? try deleting the old faults and running the car again and doing another diagnostic to see if they return.

  • @ruiazevedo2512
    @ruiazevedo2512 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The problems with Dpfs regenerations can be caused by multiple situations, one of the most important is the turbo system not working properly. I had problems with my diesel car, during several years, just because there was a very small hole in the solenoid vacuum hose of the turbo, that no mechanic noticed and that no error code diagnostic! I discovered the problem by myself.

  • @eddyjawed4871
    @eddyjawed4871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you remove the inside filters of the dpf and just put the part back on, how will they be able to check on MOT that the filter is not there?

  • @raystorey3670
    @raystorey3670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Its a good idea to clear the fault codes and test again if you dont clear your computer just repeats the codes !

  • @daddyfixit5188
    @daddyfixit5188 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great advice. Where can I get an mot with no dpf fitted please because every test station here said they would fail It if removed 👍👍

  • @shaungee2778
    @shaungee2778 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    It is illegal to remove a DPF filter on a vehicle that is 2009 or later that has it fitted as standard.

    • @GeorgeAusters
      @GeorgeAusters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is a 2008

    • @johnbarker924
      @johnbarker924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      There is a lot of things illegal in this country like motor garages and politics

    • @spudhead1161
      @spudhead1161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not illegal to remove one, but an mot fail.

    • @petelattimer6808
      @petelattimer6808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@spudhead1161 actually it IS illegal because it changes the emissions levels of the vehicle and so would leave you liable to tax evasion.

    • @spudhead1161
      @spudhead1161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@petelattimer6808 NOT ILLEGAL TO REMOVE FROM A CAR, YOU CAN REMOVE ANYTHING FROM YOUR CAR. BUT AN MOT FAIL. Tax evasion ? haha ffs.

  • @stevenclark1973
    @stevenclark1973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great video, but isn't it illegal to remove it?? - would it pass the MOT without it? I've had similar issues on a 520D... a flush costing around £300 never did anything.

    • @JohnSmith-ws1dp
      @JohnSmith-ws1dp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a Toyota Auris SR180. 2.2 diesel 2009 with 150k
      2yrs ago I got a check engine light..emissions. Took the egr off it was choked SOLID with carbon..took the inlet manifold off choked SOLID. Cleaned them out gave it a service with a oil flush and a carbon clean. Now I do it annually.
      as for a regen for the dpf i do a ‘forced’ regen…it takes minimum 10mins. 3rd gear 60mph 3k revs and I set a timer for 12mins. YOUR DOING IT WRONG YOU NEED TO BE IN 3rd GEAR. I have a 30miles stretch of road nearby I go down at 70 normally get up to temp then on the way back do a forced regen. You would not believe what comes out the back it like the car is literally on fire. White smoke like you wouldn’t believe. But after that…she runs like new. Never even a puff of smoke ever no lights on the dash and I give it death. Brilliant car.

    • @michaelholman5851
      @michaelholman5851 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is illegal to remove under Construction and Use regulations.
      If you can remove the DPF and have it placed in an ultrasonic bath for approx 48 hrs, this will remove the deposits. This proved very successful on a Vx/Opel Signum 3.0DT we had (the DPF had previously shown as too blocked to regen). The result was a 98% flow rate. The car did meant thousands of miles after this and was still running perfectly when we sold it on. To be fair, the DPF on that car was easier to access, being under-slung, not like the 330d Touring we also had.

    • @D3PTA
      @D3PTA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Its illegal, it wouldnt pass an mot and you risk a hefty fine of 2000 pounds. Dont do it.

    • @JJames.
      @JJames. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Needs a soaking overnight prior to flush

    • @mrmotorvator5151
      @mrmotorvator5151 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's 10k maximum fine...they do pass mot if they are mapped out correctly but I figure it's easy to put the standard dpf on for an mot once a year

  • @c14aff
    @c14aff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi George we’re do you get the ISTA and plug from please?

    • @GeorgeAusters
      @GeorgeAusters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry mate the seller was taken down. I will update everyone when he is back up and running👍🏻

  • @arthurdayson8910
    @arthurdayson8910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    before you want to remove egr now dpf what next to remove in your car

  • @Dr.SkullScience77
    @Dr.SkullScience77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It is a catch 22 as you can't remove a DPF as it is an instant MOT failure. If you have someone in the know, great but it still seriously impacts resale if you remove the system. It is worth noting that in most modern diesels the DPF won't regenerate if other error codes are present so make sure you have deleted all codes via a scanning tool before trying a regen. I have had a fair few issues with the DPF on my Jag XF. There are DPF cleaning services now at most garages, even Halfords do it, so it doesn't have to be too expensive. Also worth noting for the more environmentally and health minded people out there that if you delete the DPF there will be much more of the black stuff with pm10s being emitted.

    • @scotty6346
      @scotty6346 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just get a Euro3 diesel mate and you can forget about crappy DPF's! Euro4 onwards with DPF's and swirl flaps etc are a frikkin pain.

    • @MiracleMitch
      @MiracleMitch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Removal of the DPF is illegal as it comes under emissions control systems. Without a DPF and without EGR valves a large volume of NoX gases are emitted which are the gases that contribute to lung diseases and respiratory illnesses. DPFs are a serviceable item and convert soot that is collected by the particulate filter by into ash by high temperature burning. The ash is retained in the filter and eventually reaches a "full" level which no regeneration will reduce. Then it is time to clean or replace the filter. I have done this on my TDI Passat at 150k as it was used for a daily 35 mile commute so passive regeneration occurred due to constant high DPF temperature. Have never had a DPF light or fault code and replaced when regenerations became very frequent. Shorter journeys would have invoked active regenerations which the ECU controls by increasing fuelling and the ash content accumulates more quickly. There is no issue with having DPFs if you understand what they are, how they work and that they will need to be cleaned or replaced every 100 to 150k on average. My Passat is at 230k now - still no DPF issues.

    • @spudhead1161
      @spudhead1161 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MiracleMitch Not illegal, just an mot fail.

    • @MiracleMitch
      @MiracleMitch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spudhead1161 You will find that in the UK removal of any emissions controlling parts on a motor vehicle is not illegal, but by law, DRIVING a vehicle whereby factory fitted emissions parts have been removed IS illegal. So basically you can remove a DPF and thereafter, if it does not fail the next MOT test, and you can get the car to the test station without driving it, you can look at your DPF removed car for ever more but just can't DRIVE it LEGALLY! 😂😂 Same thing then really isn't it? Shame it is so badly policed as I'm sure it would prevent small children from getting lung disorders from nearby diesel traffic fumes, particularly NoX gases.
      How do I know this apart from having researched this to death? Brother's partner is a lawyer, sister is a police officer, brother is a police officer, father is a mechanic. Want the piece of legislation - I can get this for you too!? Or you can just Google it for yourself 🤔

    • @spudhead1161
      @spudhead1161 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MiracleMitch Certainly not the same thing is it? I don't care you have police in the family, is that supposed to make you right? haha. Do police check if cars have DPFs? certainly not.

  • @davecooper3238
    @davecooper3238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was chap I used to see around telling fibs when he said removing the filter caused his car to fail the MOT. He said when the MOT station logged his car on to the system it told them the car came fitted with a filter. It’s removal they claimed meant an automatic failure.

  • @mbak7801
    @mbak7801 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you remove or gut your dpf do not have a crash. The insurance company will be very keen to check the filter and if missing or tampered with your insurance goes out the window. You may also have to throw quite a bit of money at a bent MOT inspector for him/her to turn a blind eye to what you have done. Otherwise you will get a fine and no MOT.

  • @battlestarone
    @battlestarone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You cant remove the dpf it an mot fail now if it is missing,,you need to getca garage rhat knows what they are doing removing dpf and reinstalling the dpf casing and remap the car,,,but you just cant do away with it physically altogether.,,also removing dpf often make car smoke a little and that may be a mot issue depending where you take it for mot.

  • @TheBossssssssssss
    @TheBossssssssssss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also it could be an underlying issue other than dpf filter it could be a leak from your turbo intercooler hose pipe (split pipe) or it could be a dirty maf sensor.

    • @GeorgeAusters
      @GeorgeAusters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I made an update video how I fixed the issue

  • @LPortnall
    @LPortnall 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bmw s dpf have a life mileage in the ecu normally 250,000km , i have had it before where you need to reset this mileage and it functions correctly

  • @mgzs100
    @mgzs100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hi there did you manage to find out what you can do when your idrive give the message dpf replacement needed this is what ive got on my idrive every day since hitting 100,000 miles ,plus i did what you did with your dpf on your 520d so dont realy have a dpf
    do i need to get this mapped out anny ideas ???

    • @GeorgeAusters
      @GeorgeAusters  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      DPF needs mapping out if deleted yes

  • @neilpike4358
    @neilpike4358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have covered 12k in my e 92 320D 2010 LCI I am not aware of a DPF regen taking place should I be worried? The car is running fine and just covered 300mile journey from Bath to Sunderland mostly motorway🤔

    • @neilpike4358
      @neilpike4358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Should have added car has now done 117K

    • @GeorgeAusters
      @GeorgeAusters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More than likely has regenerated in that time. I’ve managed to sort the issue now so I should have an update coming soon👍🏻

    • @neilpike4358
      @neilpike4358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GeorgeAusters I have never seen a DPF light come on the dash even when I first turn ignition on. I don’t have ISTA but have a decent scanner but no codes shown or recorded

  • @tedf1471
    @tedf1471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This issue depends on the make of diesel engine. I have a nine year old KIA 1.6 diesel that has spent its life doing very short runs interleaved with motorway runs every few months, the DPF copes with this. It helps when the filter is clamped to the exhaust manifold (quick to get to working temperature).

    • @jamiewright3901
      @jamiewright3901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You had any EGR issues with your Kia? I got a 1.6 Proceed and it throws a pending code P0404 roughly once a week. Heard lots of people replacing EGR but the problem persists.

    • @elijahcarr4137
      @elijahcarr4137 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamiewright3901 I feel like the Germans do a better job of the diesels, though Japanese and Korean petrol cars are rock solid.

    • @jamiewright3901
      @jamiewright3901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@elijahcarr4137 Definitely, I got the Kia as they were going for not much more than half the price of Audi/VW at the time, to add I fixed the EGR fault by simply taking the solenoid off the top and cleaning around the pin and stuck half a can of brake cleaner through the top of the valve. Sorted.

  • @daveyscott4500
    @daveyscott4500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I played a drinking game, every time George says regeneration I took a shot.
    I currently have liver failure.

  • @BlamBlam80
    @BlamBlam80 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you reset the fault codes before you tried to regen? I don't think you mentioned whether you did this before the drive. My understanding it it won't even try to regen with fault codes active. Also, it's an mot failure if you remove the dpf.

  • @e60tube90
    @e60tube90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Clean thé back pressure hose and pipe kat ,check thé sensor connection and wires then First clean thé dpf then reset thé dpf. and boom another 150k km

  • @19strongy90
    @19strongy90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Had exactly the same codes with my e91 320d. Removed the DPF twice and cleaned thru after failing to start a regen. In the end I gutted it, refitted and blanked off the EGR and had a simple plug a pray map to remove them. Absolutely no faults since, car went from around 50mpg to 60+mpg (872 miles to the tank the best). Also no smoke other than the small amount you would expect from any diesel under load

    • @thisisnotsound
      @thisisnotsound 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And your car is polluting like hell. Nitrous oxides are invisible, but toxic, carcinogenic. If you do not have money for spare parts use a petrol car.

    • @strydez9337
      @strydez9337 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gotta love a dirty diesel 😀

  • @kirwanjohn101
    @kirwanjohn101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    George, can you issue the follow up video please? We are all dying to know how you fixed it. Thanks

    • @GeorgeAusters
      @GeorgeAusters  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I have a video coming next week👍🏻

  • @bigdong101
    @bigdong101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think overall driving style affects the dpf condition, short journeys are just not right for 3 litre turbo diesel cars. Replacing a dpf with a new dpf around 8-10 years into car ownership is pretty reasonable to be honest, it's just not the fun or performance way to be honest!

    • @harrison00xXx
      @harrison00xXx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well what if i nearly broke my engine since its excessive active regenerations?
      The solution is now easy: remove the DPF, straight pipe it, delete dpf (and egr?!) in software and enjoy a proper Diesel

    • @TheJbsportstech
      @TheJbsportstech 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@harrison00xXx so if it’s costs to be much to get rid of asbestos I can just burn it outside your house ?

    • @twowheelpilot
      @twowheelpilot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@harrison00xXx completely agree. Get rig of the two items you mentioned and that's most of the headaches gone.