2022 Toyota Tundra vs Tacoma TRD Pro: Which Is the Better Off-Road Truck?

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  • @slayerment
    @slayerment 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    That Tacoma is just a timeless design. Beautiful.

    • @hivetyrant7
      @hivetyrant7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It desperately needs a tech an interior upgrade, but boy I hope they don't change the exterior too much.

    • @RedWingsninetyone
      @RedWingsninetyone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@hivetyrant7 I love the interior, personally.

    • @slayerment
      @slayerment 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RedWingsninetyone Me too.

    • @micahsandefur6834
      @micahsandefur6834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love most everything about the current generation Tacoma. I've had two, if it weren't for someone running at red light at roughly 50MPH, I'd still have one. But with supply issues and the pro not being available when I had to have a vehicle, I went with the 3rd Gen Tundra TRD Off road. No regrets, but adding a current generation Tacoma back to the garage ASAP. Absolutely love the way the Tacomas look, feel and drive.

    • @christiaaanC7
      @christiaaanC7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hivetyrant7 same, I hope they do not change the exterior

  • @scottnorton9304
    @scottnorton9304 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    i love TFL and appreciate that they have a consistent course to compare things on now, i know how much easier that must be for them, but please don't fully drop the great Colorado trails and scenery you guys have highlighted so well in the past.

  • @nascargamer1999
    @nascargamer1999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Idk why the tundra front looks so bad here, everytime I see it in person it’s actually pretty good

    • @melojuketv318
      @melojuketv318 ปีที่แล้ว

      If I'm not wrong it's the lense distortion on camera.

  • @dougreed736
    @dougreed736 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I just purchased a new tundra offroad. I love it with some compliments the screen is difficult but works well once it's paired to the phone. The sensors are a little to cautious, and the no rear step is annoying. I love the Tacoma also, I just needed the extra room for the kids so Tundra took my money. Both are excellent vehicles.

  • @davidstinson1458
    @davidstinson1458 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Toyota was built on the small pickup and nothing changed since then! Always Tacoma!!😀

  • @jabroni6199
    @jabroni6199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Tundra over Tacoma all day for me. It might not be AS capable off road but it’s plenty capable. The extra room and power over the Taco make it an easy win. Price difference isn’t much either.

  • @fabulousoffroaddesigns5080
    @fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I agree. The hill top is a great demonstration of break over angle, and the sharp corner is a way to show the difference between a good turning circle and a 5 point turn. It demonstrates how too long can be much worse then too wide.

    • @Ballantrae
      @Ballantrae 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And why the Gladiator is so limited in its ability.

  • @amazinggrace8136
    @amazinggrace8136 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have had two tundras (2008 double cab sr5 and 2014 limited crewmax; all 4x4) I finally opted for a 2020 Tacoma off-road. A lot Smaller for sure but I’m loving it so far.

  • @Summit4x4Company
    @Summit4x4Company 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome comparison!

  • @vimejiasve
    @vimejiasve 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good content, i like this information

  • @shazmodeus2795
    @shazmodeus2795 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    seeing the Tacoma and Tundra side by side really highlights just how bad that Tundra front end looks.

    • @kamata93
      @kamata93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Actually..it looks really nice. The old one was bland imho. Tundra has a personality unlike the American pickup trucks. Ford is doing okay but kinda getting lazy on the design.

    • @terje5723
      @terje5723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also the wheels of the Tundra looks way too small for the truck

    • @eddyhmmk1
      @eddyhmmk1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmm I like both

    • @Copperhead47
      @Copperhead47 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The old one was much better

    • @micahsandefur6834
      @micahsandefur6834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like both, but the Tacoma just looks so dang good. Best looking mid sized truck out there.

  • @gobucs3146
    @gobucs3146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    4wd was not needed on a single obstacle there.

  • @jimmyromero7348
    @jimmyromero7348 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Always enjoying your videos

  • @shmurty8186
    @shmurty8186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The trd pro should come with better off road tires, that’s all I need to say

    • @micahsandefur6834
      @micahsandefur6834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That and a front locker would be nice. Glad they finally added a slightly taller lift of the pro.

    • @shmurty8186
      @shmurty8186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@micahsandefur6834 yes exactly, paying more for the "ultimate offroad vehicle", should be much better then the basic off road package.

    • @micahsandefur6834
      @micahsandefur6834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shmurty8186 The standard front skid plate, the lift, the fox shocks.. It's a start. Let's keep advocating for larger KO2's, a front locker, and an aluminum gas tank skid instead of plastic. The Tacoma is getting eclipsed a little bit when it comes to off road packaging by Ford and Chevy, even if the Tacoma is overall a better truck that sells more. But that can't be an excuse to not keeping pushing the envelope.

  • @7sunsetmaro7
    @7sunsetmaro7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stamped bed on the new Tacoma is cool. Only thing I don't like is that its TRD and Pro underneath vs. Like the Tundra had.

  • @jasonmorin5209
    @jasonmorin5209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The haters will watch a 25 minute TFL video, complain about it in the comments, then watch another TFL video. Keep up the good work, guys. The new property is awesome 🤘

    • @chappo4845
      @chappo4845 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We don’t hate. We want to help them improve. In what world does constructive criticism equal hate?

    • @jasonmorin5209
      @jasonmorin5209 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chappo4845 kind of seems like these guys know what they're doing given their subsciber count, not sure they need "constructive criticism" from a viewership outside of their peer group. However, I've been wrong in the past. Once. 🤣

    • @chappo4845
      @chappo4845 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasonmorin5209 haha. I like them, they could be better. A smart person monitors feedback, good and bad, makes gradual improvements.

  • @cj5fromla
    @cj5fromla 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    To all those calling the gen 3 tacoma a slog or the engine has no power lol. For my 17 trd orsb I can tell first hand and their are easy and not to expensive fix or mods or what ever you choose to call them. Absolutely nothing wrong with the engine and or transmission, but it's the tune with them that's the issue I went with kd maxx pro tune problem solved in low end torque issues, and you actually improve mpg. Funny why toyota themselves didn't do it right the first time lol, but atleast someone else did. Another issue people complain about the seating position again another quick fix I went with some seat jackers now for me at 5'9" or 5'10" height seems to help me to feel more support with my legs especially while driving long distances. Some complain the interior is so out dated I don't think so with mine, but than again mine did come with both the upgraded tech, and tow package plus some other upgrades the previous owner had purchase for it. I bought it when it was almost 2yrs old and 13 000 miles on it I can only wonder why the previous owner got rid of it,but probably because of the two issues I both seen and felt my self. I still remember first driving it to AZ for the first time and flooring it going up hills the dang thing didn't want to go pass 50 mph. But after I took it into the dealership and they updated the firmware for the tune it fixed it kinda of but I can tell it still was lacking a bit and not allowing itself to perform at its peak performance. So of course I did what most I'm sure did and deactivated both my trac. Stability control completely by holding it down for a few longer sec. And activating my famous ect button. And yes the truck would performed much better but also at the expense of using more fuel of course. But with that new tune I don't even have to deactivate anything, and if I do use my ect at times it really makes a huge difference. Hope this info helps some of you guys out.

    • @Kambolicious
      @Kambolicious 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Toyota tunes their engines for reliability, not performance.

    • @micahsandefur6834
      @micahsandefur6834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Speed in my 6 cylinder Tacomas have never been the issue. I wouldn't mind if the transmission transitioned smoother, but it's never been a real issue. My Tacomas have always been a favorite, can't wait to get another one ASAP.

  • @dansclub88
    @dansclub88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You should make an impossible course and measure off road worthiness based on how far the vehicles can go before getting stuck.

    • @WW-wf8tu
      @WW-wf8tu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Except 99% of the vehicles they review are press/loaners they cannot destroy AND they won't ruin the ones they have either since they only keep them for 5 months to a year at a time. Have to have something to resale. ;)

    • @micahsandefur6834
      @micahsandefur6834 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WW-wf8tu Exactly, most people don't have the money to destroy their own vehicles either, so MOST won't be taking those types of chances anyway.

  • @RCRitterFPV
    @RCRitterFPV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that Tundra front grill is ridiculous

  • @NateBlack96
    @NateBlack96 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would love to see a Lexus GX470 in a video video like this and maybe a land cruiser

  • @craigchadwick2504
    @craigchadwick2504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You guys need to make those hills more challenging.

    • @WW-wf8tu
      @WW-wf8tu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They have been using the most capable from the factory OR vehicles you could ask for, it is going to look easy. And the point is not, can one get stuck, anything can get stuck if put in the wrong situation. The point is to illustrate on a level 3 - 7 difficulty course, how do different vehicles do.

  • @dawsonriley4235
    @dawsonriley4235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tundras are the best truck ever

  • @alecschrader9792
    @alecschrader9792 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Let's make no mistake, the best off road Toyota is a Land Cruiser, which would include the 4Runner (essentially a Prado). Then it's a toss up between the Taco and the Tundra. Bottom line double cab trucks the wheel base is just way to long unless you're lifting significantly.

  • @---rg1gb
    @---rg1gb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Actually, the Tacoma TRD Pro is a $50,000 truck with a $7,000 dealer rapeage adjustment....making both of these vehicles the same cost. Thanks Toyota! Greed!

    • @mikefoehr235
      @mikefoehr235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Rapeage...LMAO

    • @geepuller1
      @geepuller1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Can't rape the willing........

    • @BigMike_6872
      @BigMike_6872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah dealers are selling the 4Runner TRD Pro for $61,000…🙄🙄🙄

    • @---rg1gb
      @---rg1gb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BigMike_6872 Same for Tacoma TRD Pro...I'm trying to buy one....but refuse to get raked over the coals by the dealers

    • @yeahright2022
      @yeahright2022 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can walk into my dealer in AZ right now and buy a Taco TRD OR for $37-39k. Dunno where you're at, but that's unfortunate for you.

  • @joseramos7476
    @joseramos7476 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tundra looks good

  • @BigMike_6872
    @BigMike_6872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool video as always TFL, the Tundra is capable, but I think the Tacoma vs. 4Runner would be a lot tougher to decide…

    • @WW-wf8tu
      @WW-wf8tu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In regards to capabilities? Because they are 2 completely different segments. Capability wise, they will match each other. Only the wheel base for break over angles will be factored in.

  • @scotw67
    @scotw67 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the testing of the front locker that you guys did with these trucks! Oh, wait… 😂

    • @beexiong2995
      @beexiong2995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most owners of these trucks will never use the rear locker anyway. Why have two when you dont even use the rear

  • @fixedwing1
    @fixedwing1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to see the course evolve and how a test like this will drive that evolution. Dumb down the hill for pickup break over or keep it higher for small wheelbase Jeep and Bronco.
    I understand the TRD Pro Taco is on hand but comparing price to this Tundra a TRD offroad Taco would be more relevant and worth mentioning. On this course the TRD offroad would not give up any ground to what the Pro did.

    • @jasonhowe1697
      @jasonhowe1697 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      the only difference between the 2 1 looks to have a 200 series grill and package and the other has had gaudie 300 series grill fitted I would the the proximity senses should be turned off otherwise ya going to going to go nuts trying to kill the beeping noise

  • @chappo4845
    @chappo4845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If you’re going to use an off road course you need to accept scrapes and scratches. If you make it so easy that nothing fails, what are you testing?
    Understand the constraints but the courses need to be something that a sedan with some ground clearance and good tyres can’t complete.
    Maybe try a few junkers just to make sure the course actually tests off roaders. Also, have you considered a faster section with a jump or two for the baja vehicles?
    Otherwise, love the videos.

    • @WW-wf8tu
      @WW-wf8tu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you understand the "constraints" then you have already answered your own question and reasoning why this is the way it is.

    • @chappo4845
      @chappo4845 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WW-wf8tu the constraints relate to press cars and scratches.
      There’s no reason the courses can’t be more difficult. I bet some 2wd cars could complete them.
      They’re free to be creative. If we can’t constructively criticise…

  • @ianbds6436
    @ianbds6436 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Roman, it’s kind of annoying hearing you tell these guys what to do in every video. If you could plan it ahead and do it off camera, I’m sure I would enjoy your videos more. Have a great day. Great video btw

    • @USA__WILL
      @USA__WILL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Roman is stubborn and changes his mind all the time. Probably won't work.

  • @trailrunnah8886
    @trailrunnah8886 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Not really much of a challenging test, they did all these obstacles with their $5,000 Escalade a few weeks ago. Other than that, fish pond, mud pit and hill climb, their course looks good for crossovers, they need to do a more difficult one for actual off-roaders.

    • @micahsandefur6834
      @micahsandefur6834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They did right out of the gate mention that though. They were just showing some simple stuff. But let's be honest, MOST people aren't going to be doing things much more challenging than that despite what they have. I've seen some Ford Raptors and Ram TRX's that I would bet have never touched dirt or mud that wasn't on pavement.

  • @edugonch2
    @edugonch2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hilux turbo diesel ....... that is the best!

  • @MrManson1337
    @MrManson1337 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Need trd pro tundra... not a fair comparison. It's all about the clearance.

  • @perchowski3021
    @perchowski3021 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope for 2024 they offer the new Tacoma in a pro model with the tundra V6 twin turbo motor. That would be a cool truck! 😬

    • @erod6468
      @erod6468 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Any engine with forced induction just never lasts as long as a naturally aspirated engine. It just wouldn't be like the Tacoma we love today, running reliably forever.

    • @perchowski3021
      @perchowski3021 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@erod6468 I wouldn't say any engine with forced induction doesn't last as long as a naturally aspirated motor. If that was true, then why are all semi trucks turbo diesels? Those things drive over 1 million miles on a motor.

    • @erod6468
      @erod6468 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@perchowski3021 those are much larger diesel engines that do not require spark plugs to create explosions like a gasoline powered engine(they strickly use high compression to superheat diesel fuel and create the ignition in conjunction with glow plugs on some engines for initial and cold starts), thereby reducing wear on much stouter piston rings and cylinder walls. They actually benefit from a compressor(turbos in this case) much more than a vehicle when it comes to longevity and reliability. Very common to wear out piston rings and cylinder walls among other things, especially on forced induction gasoline 4 stroke engines.

    • @erod6468
      @erod6468 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@perchowski3021 two completely different internal combustion technologies. It's akin to comparing apples to bananas.

    • @erod6468
      @erod6468 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even smaller turbocharged diesel engines suffer major issues early on. The long term diesel engines in smaller passenger trucks/cars you see getting to over 500k miles or more without major overhauling are the naturally aspirated ones.

  • @RazerView
    @RazerView 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    love the toyota content

  • @joriz5869
    @joriz5869 ปีที่แล้ว

    So the Tundra couldn't do the fish pond course ?

  • @Malc664
    @Malc664 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excting times ahead for us TFL fans. 👍🏻

  • @shaunmckinnis2723
    @shaunmckinnis2723 ปีที่แล้ว

    That tundra needs a lift and I think it would make all the difference

  • @user-tb5ns7hc5i
    @user-tb5ns7hc5i ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is no Tacoma pro this year. Where is it? Unobtanium. Show me one photo of a buyer’s shipped one other than these media demo models.

  • @gbrooke5580
    @gbrooke5580 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Tacoma is jolly rancher green.

  • @stevevice9863
    @stevevice9863 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I wish you guys would just drive them in 4WD without all of the computer gizmos engaged. I would like to see how they perform just by the seat of the pants. I think the computer stuff should be reserved for when you absolutely can't make it through an obsticle on your own.

    • @wigsnatched5621
      @wigsnatched5621 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Facts👏

    • @josephwilliamson6878
      @josephwilliamson6878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Totally agree. My manual 18 Sport 4x4 is extremely capable and has no extra bells or whistles. Sure, the gizmos are cool but so is building your skill level.

    • @richeyrich2203
      @richeyrich2203 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I third that

    • @Toastedyogurt
      @Toastedyogurt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The extra gizmos are selling points for vehicles, no reason to not show them off.

    • @stevevice9863
      @stevevice9863 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Toastedyogurt I don't have a problem showing them off, but I think it would be more interesting to compare going through the off road course in just 4WD to doing the course with computer aided driving. I would like to see how much better the tech is than the humans. I have a 3rd gen 4Runner with no tech and it is very satisfying to rely on driving skill to make it through a trail. The computers would come in handy when I reach the limits of my driving ability as a safety net.

  • @jamesclark9791
    @jamesclark9791 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d rather the Tacoma for the same reason I like my Colorado i could use it for everything like off roading towing and hauling yes there is a compromise in towing and hauling capacity I’ve admittedly overloaded it a few times but it hasn’t let me down yet

  • @thecount1001
    @thecount1001 ปีที่แล้ว

    the massive truck is more comfortable than the smaller truck. imagine.

  • @timothystone5785
    @timothystone5785 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You need a brush cutter head for your equipment

  • @colbyconner2363
    @colbyconner2363 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Be fun to watch the Russian reaction to catching a fish out of y’all’s pond

  • @TRUE_GR1T
    @TRUE_GR1T ปีที่แล้ว

    Tacoma with a manual >>>> Tundra. Only reason to buy a tacoma is because you can still get it with a proper transmission.

  • @trevortellschow7960
    @trevortellschow7960 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don’t cutt the hill down. Just drive it properly next time Andre

  • @M.G.jun.
    @M.G.jun. ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello guys, basically a good idea to build such a course. Unfortunately he is far too good and too weak. Obviously, it does not pose any challenge for these vehicles. Greetings from Germany.

  • @TshuajCL9
    @TshuajCL9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    toyota just needs atleast 33s

  • @MotorDanko
    @MotorDanko 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    my god i just jump scared because of that intro

  • @Nitroscion
    @Nitroscion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The real trails in are more entertaining then the course you guys made. I didn’t learn much from this test. Please, go back to real off-road tests. Thanks.

    • @rafaeldiaz8129
      @rafaeldiaz8129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      These videos are for people intended ij buying either one of these two vehicles and if you aren’t then you know what to do thanks .

    • @JayTdub13
      @JayTdub13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Much agreed. At least until it’s done done.

    • @Nitroscion
      @Nitroscion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rafaeldiaz8129 I am looking for a new truck. That’s more of a coincidence then the reason I’m watching TFL videos. TFL and Savagegeese are the only reviews I watch and I just want them to keep the things that make them Great.
      Do you only watch the videos of the vehicles you plan on buying?

  • @mattlee4807
    @mattlee4807 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I feel like you guys need to bring the Ranger Tremor back and put it up next to the TRD Pro and maybe the Frontier.

  • @JeepCherokeeful
    @JeepCherokeeful 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The FJ Cruiser is the best Toyota off road.

  • @mct8888
    @mct8888 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys need a weed wacker.

  • @funpolice8128
    @funpolice8128 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Idk why the front of the new tundra is so low… really sucky. I’m one of the rare breeds that couldn’t give two craps about big screens or interior “tech”. Give me ground clearance, manual transfer case shifter, and some rubber floors I can hose out. Trucks nowadays have gotten too soft but more people than ever are buying em so I guess that’s what they want. Dang shame.

    • @TRUE_GR1T
      @TRUE_GR1T ปีที่แล้ว

      this is why a few months ago I bought a 15 TRD offroad tacoma and put a 2.5" lift on it and K02s...manual transmission and less tech than the third gens. Also made in Texas where the 3rd gens are made in Mexico. I think the 2nd gens are just better trucks.

  • @americanrambler4972
    @americanrambler4972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Tacoma just flat out looks good in the green color.

    • @TRUE_GR1T
      @TRUE_GR1T ปีที่แล้ว

      the spruce mica green looked even better, shame they only offered it for a year or two on the 2nd gen

  • @williamcharron4023
    @williamcharron4023 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What happend tu the ranger

  • @leonmawudzi705
    @leonmawudzi705 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's always a pleasure watching your videos. Thank you for another great video 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💥💥😎

  • @Abc-vr7tk
    @Abc-vr7tk ปีที่แล้ว

    U need momentum climbing the hill, the Tacoma can do it.

    • @sevendewey
      @sevendewey ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought the same thing. I have a 4R TRD Pro with slightly more aggressive tires and there is no way I wouldn’t make it over the top of that hill

  • @mardamek
    @mardamek 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just started the video and I'm taking a guess. The Tacoma is the better off-roader. Wouldn't want one myself because the design of the cab is such that even I, at 5'7" have a very hard time getting in an out of it. The Tundra would be a better daily driver due to its better cabin. However, size is the factor here, and that's why my best are on the Tacoma (smaller is better when it comes to off-roading).

    • @Eastsidegeorgiaboy
      @Eastsidegeorgiaboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im 6ft 5 and have no problem getting in and out of the tacoma trd pro

  • @SAZQACH
    @SAZQACH 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love your videos. But that was a weak test.

    • @WW-wf8tu
      @WW-wf8tu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Test was fair. The vehicles they have been using are going to make it look super easy is all. ;)

    • @chappo4845
      @chappo4845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@WW-wf8tu I reckon the 2CV could do it.

  • @foobar3139
    @foobar3139 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hate the boat like feel of the bilsteins

  • @JohnnyBoy919
    @JohnnyBoy919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hate how the grill on the new tundra extends to the bottom onto the bumper...seems kinda odd and cheap looking.

    • @micahsandefur6834
      @micahsandefur6834 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The grill doesn't really extend, the bottom of the bumper just blends in color. Some people are paint matching the insignia between the two pieces.

    • @JohnnyBoy919
      @JohnnyBoy919 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@micahsandefur6834 either way it looks awful.

    • @micahsandefur6834
      @micahsandefur6834 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnnyBoy919 Well, you're absolutely entitled to your opinion. Plenty of other people think it looks good. Personally, I think the new generation looks way better than the previous generation. I could have done without the chrome myself, but again... Some people like the chrome too. Fortunately there's something different for everyone.

    • @JohnnyBoy919
      @JohnnyBoy919 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@micahsandefur6834 if you pause this video where it shows the front of the tundra and tacoma, you really think it looks good? It's not even the chrome just thebwaybthebgrilk is setup and how low it goes. Also the fact the jew tundra doesn't have tow hooks on the front..I'm sure they will fix that.

    • @micahsandefur6834
      @micahsandefur6834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JohnnyBoy919 Again.. The grill itself does not go all the way to the bottom.. It's that the bottom of the bumper is just also black, which you can change if you don't like it, but a lot of people do. I actually think the 2022 Tundra looks pretty dang good overall. Personally, I absolutely love the Tacoma and it's my personal favorite. But I think the new Tundra looks good. I've also seen both in person and have owned both. I'll be keeping the Tundra and adding a Tacoma back to the mix ASAP. Again, fortunately with everyones different taste and preferences, there's enough options out there to go around. Every manufacturer seems to have something different that suites different people. Go with what YOU like. PLENTY of people also like the new Tundra, I see em every single day I get out of the road.

  • @brianm5753
    @brianm5753 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The holes could be deeper.

    • @pryme2013
      @pryme2013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I keep bumping the cervix

  • @americanrambler4972
    @americanrambler4972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your “holes” corse has the holes to evenly spaced. They are not articulating the suspensions. The are just rocking the trucks side to side.

  • @TheCtrumbo
    @TheCtrumbo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I went looking at new Tacoma’s last night, 4/25/22. Dealer told me they had none for sale, and when they do, it will be 5k over MSRP, period. Also no more building a truck to the buyers specs. You buy what they have, or you don’t buy….

    • @timyestim
      @timyestim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sounds like they're are asking you to find another dealer because they know they won't be in business too much longer with attitudes like that. And I have a hunch you'd be much happier at another dealer too.

    • @TheCtrumbo
      @TheCtrumbo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Made me rethink selling my loaded 2015 Silverado z71 that’s paid for. Maybe I don’t need a a new, smaller Toyota.

    • @Eastsidegeorgiaboy
      @Eastsidegeorgiaboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@timyestim this is just how it is now. I mean they are charging $53,000 for a 2019 Trd pro tacoma with 30,000 miles on it.

    • @micahsandefur6834
      @micahsandefur6834 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My local dealers will let me order as I like and want, it's just gonna take a little time. Unfortunate, but yeah, that's how it is. I also was able to negotiate that they give me MSRP and agreed to it. This was on a Tacoma or a Tundra and I talked with 4 dealerships, found 2 that were willing to budge to my preferences.

    • @micahsandefur6834
      @micahsandefur6834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Eastsidegeorgiaboy They have to with a used vehicle, they have A LOT more room to budge of a new one. They bought that used one for too much, they're going to sell it to make some money back either way.

  • @rondail5675
    @rondail5675 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I would pick a Frontier this year. I would probably pick the new Tacoma when it is updated.

    • @GrizzlyPath
      @GrizzlyPath 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The new Frontier looks great!

    • @SasukeUchiha-zu6dw
      @SasukeUchiha-zu6dw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      New ranger coming out looks good too

    • @rondail5675
      @rondail5675 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SasukeUchiha-zu6dw I haven't seen any early release pictures. Ford has been doing great lately.

    • @xzaviuraurai
      @xzaviuraurai 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rondail5675 don’t bother, every trim looks horrendous save for the Ranger Raptor.

    • @xzaviuraurai
      @xzaviuraurai 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GrizzlyPath New Frontier is a beauty but that outdated interior and gas* guzzling v6 isn’t helpful.

  • @shiftmotorsports9803
    @shiftmotorsports9803 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Don't grade the top of the hill! That's the true challenge! I would like to see if the ZR2 brothers (Colorado and Silverado) can make it. Also the Raptor, Tremor brothers, TRX, Gladiator, etc.

    • @thetopher1126
      @thetopher1126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agree, every challenge shouldn't be doable by all trucks/4x4's, would love to see the disparity on something like that between trucks and say jeeps or other 4x4 worthy SUV's. Now if you test every 4x4 worthy truck and jeep/suv and none of them can tackle it, might be time to adjust aim a little.

  • @armsdirectory
    @armsdirectory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you guys ever done a restoration on an older Jeep Cherokee with that amazing 4.0L inline 6 in order to have a purely mechanical "control" vehicle as a basis for comparison?

    • @trailrunnah8886
      @trailrunnah8886 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They owned one for a while, I believe it was a 91 or a 92, it was mint. They sold it a few years back.

    • @armsdirectory
      @armsdirectory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@trailrunnah8886 aww… it’d be cool to see how something like that would do against all the electronic gizmos they’re employing today.

  • @gozzdogg92
    @gozzdogg92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    we need a taco vs gladiator

    • @gwot
      @gwot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I stopped seeing gladiator content showing up on my youtube for a long time now, but I still see Tacoma content every now and then, I feel like gladiator interest died out.

  • @josephwhiskeybeale
    @josephwhiskeybeale 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    My 2004 Impala SS had more aggressive tires than that Tacoma 😂

    • @samusaran7317
      @samusaran7317 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But why? 🤣

    • @josephwhiskeybeale
      @josephwhiskeybeale 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@samusaran7317 you’re going to have to ask Toyota that one 😂😂

    • @RedWingsninetyone
      @RedWingsninetyone 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@josephwhiskeybeale they're not the most aggressive all terrains in the world but better than a passenger car. Not sure what you're running on your Impala or why.

  • @kross1261
    @kross1261 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Years ago I owned Dodge Dakotas with V8 and a fairly aggressive tire package. Since then I’ve owned multiple Rams, Silverados and now Tundra’s. I’ve always thought the lighter more nimble Dakota handled mud and snow better than the full size trucks. I think Ram made a mistake not reintroducing the Dakota sooner.

    • @terrynichol577
      @terrynichol577 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You lost me at dodge. Sorry man

    • @kross1261
      @kross1261 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@terrynichol577 understandable that’s back when I’d buy a new truck every 2 years

  • @shaunmilor
    @shaunmilor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Im 37 and have owned nothing but manual 5 speed toyota Trucks/4runners, My first vehicle was a 1985 Toyota 4runner. Then I bought a 84 4runner Rock crawler. Then a 96 Tacoma that saved my life in a headon crash at the speed limit when a car made a left in front of me on a hwy I hit her right in front of her door then it through the truck off a 10-15 ft drop like dukes of hazard and bent the frame in a u shape. walked away with a hurt back and cracked rib. And now I have an 03 Taco that I supercharged after watching Andre Drive The 1997 supercharged Tacoma on methanol a few years back.

    • @richeyrich2203
      @richeyrich2203 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How’s it holding up? Got a vid?

    • @shaunmilor
      @shaunmilor 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richeyrich2203I don't have any videos but the Truck is doing great has about 271k on it and Rips with no problems since I ironed out all the bugs.... the other guy has the same setup and it dyno'd just short of 300whp & 310 Torque.. the 3.4 5vzfe stock are around 140-150whp

  • @ted101975
    @ted101975 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Press the ect button. All problems solved

  • @ryantemple2069
    @ryantemple2069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would like to take my KL Cherokee Trailhawk over both the crossover and the “Fish Bowl” courses. I bet it would be a piece of cake.

  • @botashs
    @botashs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sorry guys, pretty sure the Sienna could do this course. I’m not kidding. Long time fan. Do better.

  • @aknadiri2520
    @aknadiri2520 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tundra is such a rip off xDD. FULL SIZE TRUCK with like barely 10K towing capacity, same bed size as Taco and literally not even diesel lmao..

  • @Vinsanity503
    @Vinsanity503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tundra > Tacoma

  • @armsdirectory
    @armsdirectory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OR... Andre can YEET the Taco up the hill. Pretty sure that'd work.

  • @WW-wf8tu
    @WW-wf8tu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't think changing the hills crest is warranted. IF you are going to redesign natural terrain to that degree, you are no better than the manufacturers that send press launches out and just breeze through w/out a challenge because they made the course easy for their vehicle(s). I get having to create a lot of what you have to challenge things, and that is great. But the hill is a real obstacle that people will/could encounter in the real world. Thus, it sets a bar for break over angle testing. But by now, you have already done something about it I am sure and my opinion is weeks too late. lol

  • @USA__WILL
    @USA__WILL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That California toilet paper joke was hilarious 🤣. Great job Roman

  • @jeffrey88888
    @jeffrey88888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thought you guys sold the Tundra for the ZR2?

    • @371kenny
      @371kenny 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They probably filmed this 2 weeks ago. Didnt want to show the dealer them beating up the Tundra before they traded it in. Lol

    • @WW-wf8tu
      @WW-wf8tu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is editing vs timeline dilemma. This next weekend they will show another episode of Taming Tumbleweed where the course is still being built. But yet, we have already seen it completed in more than a few videos. They are excellent about pumping out content, just not in order in which one might expect for continuity.

  • @CarnutMM
    @CarnutMM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tacoma for me any day.
    The Tundra looks way too low to be off road oriented.

  • @MontysMotos
    @MontysMotos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my old Tundra, I would have to set the parking brake in order to engage 4L, sounds like they got rid of that, which would be good.

  • @John-cz6it
    @John-cz6it 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your course is too easy

  • @CJ-rk5eg
    @CJ-rk5eg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I still can’t understand why the TRD Pro model is saddled with lame tires compared to the competition!

    • @TS-ic1ol
      @TS-ic1ol 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      MPG.

    • @CJ-rk5eg
      @CJ-rk5eg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TS-ic1ol that’s of no concern to Jeep and Ford I guess!

    • @TS-ic1ol
      @TS-ic1ol 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CJ-rk5eg Guess not!

  • @josephina24
    @josephina24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The beauty of having all of this beautiful land, is the fact that you can expand it, build it exactly how you want from the ground up. Stay tuned folks, they see your comments!

  • @peterhoma6385
    @peterhoma6385 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tacoma over any truck out there !

  • @rsdaarud
    @rsdaarud 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun course! The tight downhill turn is a great test for turning radius and articulation. I wonder how my first gen Tundra would do??

  • @tonystarks3-11
    @tonystarks3-11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The toilet paper was probably soaked with California woke tears.

  • @CamiYoukif
    @CamiYoukif 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ford launched the Lightning today, and all you do is talk MORE about Toyota?

  • @goodbadugly9849
    @goodbadugly9849 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Need Tundra Pro Vs Tacoma Pro comparison.

  • @RAMTEX1986
    @RAMTEX1986 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought y’all got rid of that truck !

  • @bennyb6071
    @bennyb6071 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    tacoma needs a refresh big time, interior is hideous and the 3.5 is a dog

    • @Dobrzanski98
      @Dobrzanski98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      💯

    • @goodbadugly9849
      @goodbadugly9849 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Best selling midsized truck in the land. You heard it. TACOMA

    • @dude-yg9ez
      @dude-yg9ez 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We should be getting a redesign next year or 2024, it'll be on this tundra's platform

    • @kurtzcol
      @kurtzcol 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i love mine 22 pro

    • @joek9962
      @joek9962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree that the drivetrain is a poor fit for the Tacoma. Although, I believe the interior is better looking than the competitors. The Ranger and GM twins have even more dated interiors.

  • @foellerd
    @foellerd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My first thought, v6 vs v6.

  • @chestermejia321
    @chestermejia321 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your welcome. That was two ply. Lol

  • @georgekerr8804
    @georgekerr8804 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Taco did beautifully on the Fish Pond.

  • @jasonhowe1697
    @jasonhowe1697 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    apart from the name on the body and the cosmetic grill change it is the same unibody underneath which is a hilux
    TRD isn't a way of lift is statement for toyota racing division..
    noting off road isn't offroad ..
    the offroad by definition that is sold in the marketing in toyota for hilux Base brand work vehicle tacoma in 1 market in the other tundra in another.
    Meaning work site use.
    you made the 1st mistake to take both off road without suspension lift tire and rims suitable for off road use.. like most idiots do when they get a new toy to play with... see what happens until you break it or in this case beach it on clearance issue..
    and you don't use on road tires off road

    • @mikefoehr235
      @mikefoehr235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My Tundra came with Michelin P series tires. Now, for on road comfort and fuel economy, those tires are AOK but in the winter the Duratracs on steel rims are tremendous in snow and real good in mud as well. Duratracs are a bit more noisy and slightly worse on fuel but still better than being in the ditch or in a collision. I think most auto makers supply adequate tires but they are not for hard-core off road use.

    • @jacobforeman9916
      @jacobforeman9916 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They test the vehicle as they come from the factory, not what you would add afterwards.

    • @jasonhowe1697
      @jasonhowe1697 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jacobforeman9916 then what they do is a fallacy because anyone with a brain puts another 20-150k into the vehicle before taking it to purpose test track to represent an example anyone with a half of brain wouldn't do... if you want it to comply offroad use that isn't a building site for over priced discount homes.
      then you take it to a fit out center to make it compliant for your intended needs
      Man i would love to see tfl, Ronny Dahl and ASPW go for a bog lap around australia in proper kitted vehicles, then do it the same way the TFL Guys do it and see how far it gets before the vehicle has to be towed out because it got broke down...
      whilst i like this as infotainment value, i think to the uninitiated new to this scene is going to set bad advice..
      with mentality of monkey see and monkey do and monkey do dumb shit and you copy monkey and do the same shit an wipe off your vehicle because you copied someone else's dumb moves and then ask why something fails to late to fix it later with a bandaid fix..
      off road and offroad in a marketing term
      as demonstrated in tv ads as a trademan vehicle running across the worksite type offroad (fictional account offroad) aka bog standard use
      Vs
      Reality of every condition you can have access to on unmaintained roads in the interior of the country...

    • @hj7993
      @hj7993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly, what you get from TRD is just a joke compared to the price and features that come almost standard by other manufacturers. Toyota Racing Division and you get the same snail engine.

  • @terrynichol577
    @terrynichol577 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Neither. 4runner TRD off-road premium like Mine 😎😎😎

    • @princekareem1990
      @princekareem1990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's the real offroad beast 🤟🏿 I love mine!

    • @Eastsidegeorgiaboy
      @Eastsidegeorgiaboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      4runner is just a Tacoma with a shell on it, and the bed is connected to the body, with no separation.

    • @terrynichol577
      @terrynichol577 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Eastsidegeorgiaboy ummm sure isn't. You don't know your Toyotas then. First off, the 4runner is made in Japan, quality is night and day from the Tacoma. (I know this comming from three Tacomas) 2nd, the Tacoma has a 3.5L engine that gear hunts, oppose the 4runner that has a 4.0 that does not gear hunt. (Rides a lot smoother) quality control inside is night and day difference. My 4runner has a kdss system which the Tacoma does not. I could go on and on here. Long story short, the 4runner is not a Tacoma, the quality made 4runner in Japan is a superior build to the Tacoma. This is not just opinion, this is facts.

    • @terrynichol577
      @terrynichol577 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Eastsidegeorgiaboy nothing to say back huh? Lol

    • @Eastsidegeorgiaboy
      @Eastsidegeorgiaboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@terrynichol577 I already said what I had to say. I don't need to say anything more

  • @dudeman5788
    @dudeman5788 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Toyota so stale they tryin' lambo colors now. Pitiful