If the truck gets struck by lightning, it might be totalled because it would fry the electrical system. In light of that, his caution makes sense, not to mention the safety of the camera man.
@@skookapalooza2016 Not true.. Vehicles are well insulated from lightning strikes and frequently take hits and just keep on driving ... TH-cam is full of cars getting hit by lightning.
As a life long die hard Ford guy, I have to admit I really like both of these trucks. Especially the looks and color of that Silverado. And the torque numbers on that tundra are insane! Great review fellas 👏 👌.
They had a Ford powerboost versus the TRD hybrid, the power boost walked away, and the TRD is ready to have higher torque numbers. I own a power boost, and it is quick.
Great job! 80 % of the population can't afford a $70,000 truck. But I like that you compared the zr2 to the Toyota and not a trx or raptor. I don't think chevy had it in mind to compete directly with the raptor or trx. But they did try to make it a little more affordable for the little people. In az it's hard to find a new raptor or trx under 90,000. Great job chevy !! And Toyota but the no front tow hooks I simply don't understand
You can get a nicely quipped F150 FX4 4x4 for $39k, the Tremor is lifted 1" over an FX4.... other than that it only has the optional Raptor front diff. Sure no leather seats, etc.
If Toyota changes the front and rear bumper and include recovery points, I would be in the market for the Tundra but I don't see that happening. It still suprises me how they would create such a good truck without base level truck features on a $70k rig.
Still can't believe Toyota said their reason for no recovery points up front even in the trd pro is because of aerodynamics. Like someone buying a full sized truck is totally gonna care about aerodynamics.
Yeah completely agree. If Im buying a truck it should have basic truck things. That's a big ass fail. Im usually leaning toward Toyota's but in the video vs the Chevy it lost as far as Im concerned. Who cares about the gimmicks like light bar in the grill, it's nice ...but nothing the aftermarket couldn't fix. My question is where do you do a front recovery on that thing without possibly doing some serious damage?
@@truckerrickakamanowar Since i am a big fan of MATTS OFF ROAD RECOVERY, the solution i see are soft shackles. In deep mud it would be a pain to put them on or put them on in advance.
@@whowicho9064 I would say the only seats that beat them out are in the ram rebel and trx. I’m a tall guy and wish they made the lumbar support a touch higher but that would be my only complaint for the seats.
I've had my ZR2 for about a month now and absolutely love it!! The wife laughs at me because I try to come up with every little excuse to go driving in it 😂
@@jimmysmith3255 Absolutely hilarious that Toyota fanboys go-to is still unwavering reliability despite all the unreliabilities and quality control issues people are experiencing with the Tundra. 😂
Great video! I owned a 2015 Toyota Tundra, was a great truck other than the mpg. Out of these two trucks I'd choose the Chevy. Not a fan of what Toyota did to the front end, and lack of recovery points. The Chevy having front and rear lockers is awesome...
Actually the Tundra is pretty nice once u see it in person. Office guy got a Platinum, im surprised how nice it is. I will take it over the GM. GM stuff just doesn't wow me, always something in the truck that reminds me of the 88 caviler
There's no doubt the Tundra has proven it's reliability and the interior looks nice. That damn front end is hard to love 😂. I think the GM trucks finally did the interior right, prior to this version I would agree with the generic Caviler comment. But hey the Z-24 was a fun car back in the day 🙂🙂.
@James Dugan, I agree. I currently own a 2010 Tundra, love it. MPG Sucks but is sold and I will never sell it. Regarding choices between these two trucks here, I'll take the Chevrolet ZR2. I don't like what Toyota did with the 2022 Tundra, neither do my Toyota mechanics that work on my truck when needed.
If you haven’t seen the be tundra in person, you have to, in my opinion, it changes your perspective, it changed mine at least. Thought the tundra was ugly saw a 1794 and platinum in person and I actually really liked it
Really good to see a video on the ZR2...seems like most the attention lately has been towards EV and Lighing. Would love to see this truck make the up coming trip with the Lighting
It’s same size tires as the tundra. Both have 33s from the factory. Wouldn’t be fair to the tundra if they only put 35s on the zr2 but I agree 35’s are the sweet spot tire size for these full size half ton trucks. 35’s give it the perfect look and stance.
@@andyham6094 does the tundra belongs to them? I know the zr2 does thats why im saying they should get 35 and see what difference it makes on the same obstacles
I just put 285 70r 17s on my colorado zr2 and it's such a big difference, it shpuld have come stock with that size just like the Silveradozr2 should have come with 35s. I don't know why chevy will have a high tier offroad truck and not use the proper tire size.
The suspension arms on the rear axle really dip low on the ZR2. Sayin that, the ZR2 seemed to be the better off-road. The TRD seems to be extremely bulky, bumpers look too cumbersome.
I agree with the first part of what you said, but not the second part. The ZR2 IS a better off roader because of the approach/departure angles, front locker, and tow hooks. However the TRD pro ran all of the trails in this video every bit as well as the ZR2 which shows it is definitely NOT just for show, it’s just not quite on par with the Zed. However I believe the Tundra would still do 98% plus what most people would ever dream of attempting.
@@dennissmith7214 I wouldn’t say it’s for show, I don’t think it’s as good as the ZR2, I think the tundra need bigger tires and a raked front end but it performed just as well as the ZR2 in this test
I agree totally! I know I am a crusty old man but small engines and twin turbos spells higher maintenance and repair, shorter engine life, and not really as much mpg gain under hard use in real world as on paper.
@@allenmcdonald1652 I think itll play out well. While the Landcruiser does have the electricity it does have the same v6. So if Toyota was confident to put it in the Landcruiser i think it'll prove to be a good engine. Especially after a few years of production. We all know Toyota likes to keep engines for as long as possible. They have also been using turbo diesels in their HINO trucks and other trucks for years so I think Toyota has some solid turbo tech under their belt.
That’s why I went with my 3rd Tundra with a 5.7 vs the new Twin turboed V6s. A 2017 TRD Pro. They definitely have become complacent with the Tundra now. The amount of small features you have to pay extra for such as a subscription for using the built in remote start. No step up from the bumper to the tailgate unless you want to pay extra for the food down step. For the cost of a house in some areas. Those small amenities shouldn’t be Extra or a monthly fee.
@xdtrl. Smart choice on your part imo. I decided to switch to Tacoma trd pro this time. I am very happy with it in general but sometimes I really miss the roomy cabin, the power, and that beautiful rumble exhaust. I also am not in love with the gear hunting transmission!
@@allenmcdonald1652 wrong. Ford has proven this wrong by a long shot. It's old and tired nonsense saying smaller engine turbo trucks are not long term reliable.
@@flight2k5 more than you think. And less Toyotas than you think, son. The only thing that reliable with Toyotas are the fist sized rust holes within 3 years. Toyota: the most overhyped garbage on the planet
Great video, we need more ZR2 content. That truck never stops amazing me. I got the AT4X and absolutely love this truck. I would like to see you take all three up the trail. I can see Nathan saying, but I have massaging seats!!!!
@@richfarfugnuven6308 you think it needs more power? I pulled my 34 ft camper and it seemed really strong I didn't get no hesitation but the new model that is coming out I believe it's the 2023 they say it has 25% more power at the beginning power range so I might trade mine in for that one LOL even though I think mine has enough power
Great video guys!! That Chevy has really impressive approach and departure angles. I was stressed watching that Toyota almost scrape multiple times. The bow tie made it look easy.
@@paulhunter9613 real truck? My built 2013 tundra trd with bds suspension and 35s mud terrain tires would absolutely destroy that zr2! Tundras are real trucks chevy poser!
Since when has a GM 1/2 ton had a small aftermarket? Even if it doesn't have the same kind of aftermarket as a GEN3/GEN4 LSx the GEN5 LTx still has a decent size aftermarket, and likely one bigger than the new Toyota V6 TT engine will have. It even runs the same transmission as Mustang/Camaro/F150 which helps its aftermarket. The biggest deterrent to the Chevy's aftermarket is GM locking up their tuning abilities so tightly. With that said I'm sure the GEN3 Tundra will have a large enough aftermarket to be able to mod it however you want to.
I’m switching from a ford fusion (2013) to a 2022 tundra TRD off road. And tbh. When I took my fusion off roading because I fish in remote places, it made it through all these conditions shown. Some people are surprised but I just sent it and she made it just fine.
Even more stoked about the Tundra TRD Pro after this video, mine started being manufactured on the 27 of this month, hopefully have it in had by end of next month!
Alright…. I tried to look for this comment to give it a like but since I couldn’t find it, here it goes. -- The thought of driving two great brand new full size pickup trucks in the middle of the rain on a cool beautiful trail, WHILE! Talking shop with your friend over walkies! --- Man…. Life goals. Love it.
It feels like GM wanted to keep development and special parts as minimal as possible for the ZR2. I think they know the market, while hot, will be ending within the decade because of EV’s. Thankfully the aftermarket can fix the tire size issues
I would go Tundra all day. Owned a couple of Chevy’s in my day and I’ve had problems with every single one. Went to Toyota and haven’t looked back. Toyota builds that truck for the everyday person that goes camping on the weekend. Add a Wescott 3 inch lift and 37’s cause they fit with the new body style, and you’ll go everywhere.
Love the ZR2. Clearly outperforms the Toyota by having more and better off-road gear with front and rear lockers, a better four wheel drive system, state-of-the-art suspension, and one of the best reliable engines from GM, along with a way better approach and departure angle. The ZR2’s current tire size is perfect for day to day use. I wouldn’t change that at all, unless TFL proves that. Great video, TFL.
@@brianhuffman3202 So it has shocks, cool. That's one step up from an 1800's horse buggy I guess. You realize we do have better technology now right? It has leaf springs for one reason: because GM is cheap. You guys are only just getting 4 wheel disk brakes, and independent suspension in your cars!
Well, Tundra is the only truck that has real Heim (R) rod ends, as in made by Heim in Connecticut. I work for RBC Bearings, we own the Heim division; we are looking to expand usage of actual Heim parts into the Tacoma as well. Funny people call them Heim joints but they are not made by us; auto makers went with cheap stuff, good to see Toyota coming back to actual US-made rod ends, with steel sourced from the US too
@@rdsii64 and then some will say you shouldn't take a $70k truck offroad. You see, this was a total oversight on Toyotas behalf. They were so blind sided by the towhook debacle they're literally back to the drawing board to give the refresh some tow hooks. Every Toyota truck up until this new Tundra has had tow hooks. Even my 4 door toyota sedan has FOUR recovery points on the chassis. Either way, most people who do serious wheeling in their trucks rip off the garbage pedestrian friendly bumpers and put winch bumpers on anyway. Engineered for better approach angles, better protection, better recovery points and in my opinion, better looks.
70k, lol. What's happening to this world? I was in a showroom not long ago and they had a truck, not special edition, just a loaded truck, for like 90k. WTH?
@@quintili1 The Trail-boss also has the G80 rear rocker, runs a size 32 tire, pretty much toes over the ZR 2. The only thing Toyota would argue it has over the trail boss is the shocks. But, trail boss has Bilstein monotube 5100 shock absorbers which give it good travel over the regular pick ups, has pretty much as advanced as possible traction control system with a clutch system in its 4WD transfer case to manage power back and front. Anyways, in the end, it comes down to personal preference. For me, the only reason to get a ZR2 is front rocker. That totally makes it superior to all trucks.
@@ravensfootball52 Battery tech isn't new, but it ages and replacement is very expensive. So are turbos. Both are wear items that have a very finite life over 100k.
It's mind boggling to me that Toyota wouldn't offer an off-road package for the TRD to include a front and rear bumper with much better approach and departure angles. That tells me they're not really in touch with the community using their trucks.
Goodluck reselling it 5 years from now from the junkyard. TOYOTA is the KING of all trucks. Thats why They exported and transformed into tanks. Chevy 😂😂 disposable
@@18HunnidBK I'm not a Chevy fan by any means but Toyota messed up by switching to the small engine with turbos, they've already had tons of major issues with them. And yes as far as reliability in the older trucks Toyota was hard to beat but they couldn't haul or tow anywhere close to the 3 American brands. They're good for hauling a loaf of bread home from the store & that's about it.
For 70 g’s I’d buy a stock Chevy 2500 or a Ford 250 or Ram 2500 and put 6” lift, king or Fox shocks with reservoir overflow’s and be able to be either one of those trucks hands down and probably have 10 grand in your pocket still..
I'm in the market for a full-size truck and just dropping that much money for a brand new one I had to make sure I picked the right one. It's down to two the Toyota Tundra 2023 TRD PRO and the Chevy Silverado ZR2, but man I have seen so many videos of disappointed customers with the reliability of the Silverado truck along with mechanical problems with the other big brand the Ford F150 Tremor. So my money goes to the TRD PRO Tundra.
Too much for me. As I have no need for that much truck for towing. If Toyota offered a bronco like truck like the series 70 landcruiser. I’d buy it. But so far the Tacoma gets the job done. The 4Runner is cool but I prefer the Tacoma for its interior and chain driven motor and 6speed
ZR2 CHEVY SILVERADO VS FORD TREMOR (WHOS THE BEST OF THE BEST) TOW-MPG-ETC...(YOU guys are the best at testing) obviously THIS TEST SITE your doing now. And TRUTH OR DARE... OR FORD RANGER TREMOR VS CHEVYS COLORADO ZR2 OR EVEN THE BISON....HOPEFULLY will see these test soon.
One thing that is never mentioned when comparing HP numbers is where that power is made in the rpm range and thus how usable and practical it is. I suspect the turbo’d engine needs to wrapped pretty tight to get those numbers. If so the lower powered Chevy might actually feel more powerful in real world applications.
The ZR2 is amazing, looks capability, power. That Tundra just looks off - tires suck and just still has the same issues as all of its previous ones. Anyone can clearly see that the ZR2 is superior.
Guys please read the manual on Toyotas. It’s so painful watching car journalists try to engage 4H when stationary while it clearly says in the manual to engage it while moving, in which case it goes in immediately.
You shouldn't have to do that in any truck in 2022. Toyota is being cheap because they know their fans will accept it. Most other brands haven't had the issue for decades.
Interior sound. I noticed how loud the rain sounded in the zr2 vs trd pro. Maybe it's just an issue of camera placement but if it actually is quieter in the trd, would be cool to mention.
Can you add some cross-ditches to your testing courses? Those are probably the biggest obstacle that stops cars from being able to go further up trails in my area, and I'd love to be able to include practical demonstrations into my purchasing decisions
Was the difference in cab noise during the rain accurate? Or was it microphone placement, etc? Because from the video, the interior of the Silverado sounded a lot louder.
The obvious big difference during a time when gas costs $4.50 -$6.50 a gallon is the 22-26 MPG with the TRD!!! And you get so much more HP and torque!!!
I love my Toyotas, but I would love to ve in the room where Toyota folks argue AGAINST welding some recovery points to the truck. It HAS to be inexpensive to do, everyone else has them - but instead they omit them and people have to try and justify their absence.
Do you think that these trucks might take the same amount of time to shift into (with a little movement) 4wd but the Silverado assumes it'll be good once they start driving so they make the light solid right away and the Tundra is actually just being more... transparent?
Remember when Jeep used to test their new models for the trail rated badge , over the Rubicon Trail? lets test the ZR 2 ,TRD Pro, 150 Tremor, Powerwagon , and see who comes out on top . who wants to see that?
They all need movement to engage, It’s mechanical meshing of the gears. Toyota just flashes to warn you that its not locked in yet. As a matter of fact, the Borg Warner transfer case is nearly identical to the one in the Ford part time tcase. A transfer case is shifted by a lever or in this case, a motor that moves a shift fork. There’s no high-tech way of doing it differently.
It took me 4 hours to watch this video because the sound of rain on the roof kept putting me to sleep 🛌, but that’s alright because it took 4 hours to charge my Lightning from 50% to 100%.
I hate the cop out! Both guys didn’t wanna make the Toyota or Chevy guys mad! I have the ZR2 and I absolutely love it! I’m sure some things may be better about the TRD. I Personally like the lockers and approach angles. Also I hate to say it but the V8 is a goner soon. Sad but true!
I'm sure that Toyota is a fine truck but I would have to go with the ZR2 because of the front lockers and because I have owned NOTHING but GM vehicles my entire life. Well I did have a 1970 Mercury Montego with a 302 Boss. Loved that car.
Long time Tundra and Tacoma owner here. It truly matters what you have owned previously and how that experience turned out. I have ALWAYS hung my beliefs on Toyama reliability (30 years, multiple trucks, and virtually zero issues). I am not sure that hold true now with the 3.5 and twin turbos. ZR2 is DEFINITELY mor capable off-road though.
@@brianhuffman3202 Toyota has tanked lately? Lol! Give me a break. Many of the Toyota vehicles sold in North America are more American made than any GM (makes tons of parts in China), Ford (many made in Mexico including new electric cars) and Dodge (owned by company in Netherlands). Japan and Germany were reformed by the USA after WWII and are now both great allies. If you don’t wanna buy a Toyota fine… but don’t spread false information and make childish comments.
Watching that made me remember why I keep my old 89 Dakota 4x4 over any 70 thousand dollar new truck! that comes with two hundred dollar plus insurance payments! That couldn't even think about following a thirty-three year old mostly stock truck with fifty dollar a month insurance payments. Lmao. That made my day
To fix the TRD-Pro: ARB Front locker $2,000 CBI Front bumper $1800 295/70-18 tires $1400 Minor trimming $free Total $77,200 To fix the ZR2: 295/70-18 tires $1400 Minor trimming $free Total $71,000 The Tundra would be better than the ZR2 after these mods. More power, better mpg, and better suspension. I'll take the ZR2 as long as I can order without DFM.
Tell Roman that if he's gonna talk food he needs to buy Lunch. As for the Trucks, I'd be willing to drive either one of them. Although I would prefer better MPG than either one gets. Still the trade off might be worth it.
The whole video I'm thinking my old 120 Prado would chew that trail up pretty easily and I just can't comprehend spending $70k on a truck to go off roading that you wouldn't want to get scratched or dinged. I can't get over how long each wheelbase is, either! The Toyota looks like a parade float.
@@paulhunter9613 Thats why everyone drives Toyotas in Australia and Africa and every desert in the world? You have to be joking. If you want to go into the desert in the Outback or Sahara take anything you like, if you want to COME OUT get a Toyota. Dominate the world for good reason
@@02hreblue30 they prob have to drive TOYotas in those countries because that’s all that is available. Fortunately my country isn’t all desert , maybe yours is. You have my sympathy. And the small areas of desert we do have, I find no reason to drive around in it. If I feel the need to play in the sand I’ll go to the beach. And I’ll do it in a/c comfort
One thing i cant get passed is how a new 2022 redesigned tundra , wont think about small details that are detrimental for a pickup truck... recovery points.. and easy bed access like corner steps or tail gate engineering
Roman, stop being scared 😜. That weather is awesome for a video review of trucks! We want to see more of these types of vids.
He was crying about that weather, just a bit🤣
If the truck gets struck by lightning, it might be totalled because it would fry the electrical system. In light of that, his caution makes sense, not to mention the safety of the camera man.
@@skookapalooza2016 called insurance and living your life!
@@skookapalooza2016 Not true.. Vehicles are well insulated from lightning strikes and frequently take hits and just keep on driving ... TH-cam is full of cars getting hit by lightning.
Roman needs to just focus on the administrative side of TFL and get out from in front of the camera- it’s time
As a life long die hard Ford guy, I have to admit I really like both of these trucks. Especially the looks and color of that Silverado. And the torque numbers on that tundra are insane! Great review fellas 👏 👌.
They had a Ford powerboost versus the TRD hybrid, the power boost walked away, and the TRD is ready to have higher torque numbers. I own a power boost, and it is quick.
What a great idea to call in the rain and thunderstorm to make that trail run at least somewhat challenging for those off-road beasts 😉
Great job!
80 % of the population can't afford a $70,000 truck.
But I like that you compared the zr2 to the Toyota and not a trx or raptor.
I don't think chevy had it in mind to compete directly with the raptor or trx.
But they did try to make it a little more affordable for the little people.
In az it's hard to find a new raptor or trx under 90,000.
Great job chevy !!
And Toyota but the no front tow hooks I simply don't understand
At least my 2020 Tundra has tow hooks. Wish it had a tranny cooler as well.
$70k was expensive ten years ago, two years ago, and today. Doesn't matter where the "market" is at.
Theyre gonna be available soon i believe
@@rdramos13 Bidenflation is real!
You can get a nicely quipped F150 FX4 4x4 for $39k, the Tremor is lifted 1" over an FX4.... other than that it only has the optional Raptor front diff. Sure no leather seats, etc.
If Toyota changes the front and rear bumper and include recovery points, I would be in the market for the Tundra but I don't see that happening. It still suprises me how they would create such a good truck without base level truck features on a $70k rig.
Still can't believe Toyota said their reason for no recovery points up front even in the trd pro is because of aerodynamics. Like someone buying a full sized truck is totally gonna care about aerodynamics.
Yeah completely agree. If Im buying a truck it should have basic truck things. That's a big ass fail. Im usually leaning toward Toyota's but in the video vs the Chevy it lost as far as Im concerned. Who cares about the gimmicks like light bar in the grill, it's nice ...but nothing the aftermarket couldn't fix. My question is where do you do a front recovery on that thing without possibly doing some serious damage?
They did the same thing with their so called Rav4 Trd Pro.
@@truckerrickakamanowar Since i am a big fan of MATTS OFF ROAD RECOVERY, the solution i see are soft shackles. In deep mud it would be a pain to put them on or put them on in advance.
@@mikefoehr235 Im also a fan. I guess we'll see at some point. Take care. Enjoy the rest of your evening.
Proud zr2 owner here! The updated interior has really impressed me and the ride is fantastic!
Nice… Looking to get one myself in the near future if not the at4x. Are the new seats comfy? I have a trail boss lt rn and seats are crap lol
@@whowicho9064 I would say the only seats that beat them out are in the ram rebel and trx. I’m a tall guy and wish they made the lumbar support a touch higher but that would be my only complaint for the seats.
Any issues after 5 months?
Only thing I don't like about my zr2 is that the seats are to hard for long trips
I've had my ZR2 for about a month now and absolutely love it!! The wife laughs at me because I try to come up with every little excuse to go driving in it 😂
Love that ZR2 … absolute solid mix of on road comfort & moderate trail capability. 👍🏻
To bad reliability sucks ass. Lucky if chevys can make it to 100k nowadays
Too bad the reliability blows ass. If not it would be solid.
@@ironsaint I am a Tundra guy, but I really would get the ZR2 in a heartbeat if the reliability was there.
clothe seats and no sunroof for 70k..ya chevy is sweet
@@jimmysmith3255 Absolutely hilarious that Toyota fanboys go-to is still unwavering reliability despite all the unreliabilities and quality control issues people are experiencing with the Tundra. 😂
Great video! I owned a 2015 Toyota Tundra, was a great truck other than the mpg. Out of these two trucks I'd choose the Chevy. Not a fan of what Toyota did to the front end, and lack of recovery points. The Chevy having front and rear lockers is awesome...
Agreed. The new tundra is hideous from all angles imo and I've owned three Tundras so far.
Actually the Tundra is pretty nice once u see it in person. Office guy got a Platinum, im surprised how nice it is. I will take it over the GM. GM stuff just doesn't wow me, always something in the truck that reminds me of the 88 caviler
There's no doubt the Tundra has proven it's reliability and the interior looks nice. That damn front end is hard to love 😂. I think the GM trucks finally did the interior right, prior to this version I would agree with the generic Caviler comment. But hey the Z-24 was a fun car back in the day 🙂🙂.
@James Dugan, I agree. I currently own a 2010 Tundra, love it. MPG Sucks but is sold and I will never sell it. Regarding choices between these two trucks here, I'll take the Chevrolet ZR2. I don't like what Toyota did with the 2022 Tundra, neither do my Toyota mechanics that work on my truck when needed.
If you haven’t seen the be tundra in person, you have to, in my opinion, it changes your perspective, it changed mine at least. Thought the tundra was ugly saw a 1794 and platinum in person and I actually really liked it
Really good to see a video on the ZR2...seems like most the attention lately has been towards EV and Lighing. Would love to see this truck make the up coming trip with the Lighting
You know ford wouldn’t like that. Having a Chevy chase truck
I would love to see this zr2 in 35s doing all this obstacles again.
It’s same size tires as the tundra. Both have 33s from the factory. Wouldn’t be fair to the tundra if they only put 35s on the zr2 but I agree 35’s are the sweet spot tire size for these full size half ton trucks. 35’s give it the perfect look and stance.
And the tundra, please do a tundra vs ZR2 vs Raptor all in 35's comparison, lol they would never.
@@andyham6094 does the tundra belongs to them? I know the zr2 does thats why im saying they should get 35 and see what difference it makes on the same obstacles
I just put 285 70r 17s on my colorado zr2 and it's such a big difference, it shpuld have come stock with that size just like the Silveradozr2 should have come with 35s. I don't know why chevy will have a high tier offroad truck and not use the proper tire size.
@@brettbonine7194 they're saving that for the bison silverado thats going to add at least 10k to msrp
Both did great no traction loss at all,maybe the new 4runner might get the front lockers like the land cruiser 300
It’s about time they have a new truck with front and rear locking differential!
Jeep Rubicon bruh
@@StubProductions that’s why I said truck not Jeep. I have a Jeep Rubicon.
@@motivatedcb5837 They make a truck…. Jeep Rubicon Gladiator
@@StubProductions still a Jeep
@@motivatedcb5837 Lol! It’s got a bed like a truck. It’s a Jeep AND a truck
Zr2 in every category. Best all around stock offroad truck available.
raptor kills it dude. Not even close
@@02hreblue30 raptor only kills it on baha style stuff. You put them in actual 4wd terrain and it’s a different story
Love the chemistry all the TFL crew has amongst each other, makes watching the videos fun/enjoyable.
You guys have the best job in the world. Thanks for another great video. I think the storm added to the excitement!
The suspension arms on the rear axle really dip low on the ZR2.
Sayin that, the ZR2 seemed to be the better off-road. The TRD seems to be extremely bulky, bumpers look too cumbersome.
No front recovery points, no front lockers, approach angle and plastic up front make it not even an off-roader in my book😳…………it’s for show mostly!
@@dennissmith7214 yep exactly
I agree with the first part of what you said, but not the second part. The ZR2 IS a better off roader because of the approach/departure angles, front locker, and tow hooks. However the TRD pro ran all of the trails in this video every bit as well as the ZR2 which shows it is definitely NOT just for show, it’s just not quite on par with the Zed. However I believe the Tundra would still do 98% plus what most people would ever dream of attempting.
@@dennissmith7214 I wouldn’t say it’s for show, I don’t think it’s as good as the ZR2, I think the tundra need bigger tires and a raked front end but it performed just as well as the ZR2 in this test
@@dennissmith7214 a mall crawler at best
Can yall please do more videos of the trucks in rain!! They look really good in rain! I want to go off roading in the rain now!!!!
If I could afford either of those I would go with the zr2
The gas mileage and front locker seem to be the major differences. I’m a Toyota truck guy, but the turbo and hybrid give me 2nd thoughts.
I agree totally! I know I am a crusty old man but small engines and twin turbos spells higher maintenance and repair, shorter engine life, and not really as much mpg gain under hard use in real world as on paper.
@@allenmcdonald1652 I think itll play out well. While the Landcruiser does have the electricity it does have the same v6. So if Toyota was confident to put it in the Landcruiser i think it'll prove to be a good engine. Especially after a few years of production. We all know Toyota likes to keep engines for as long as possible. They have also been using turbo diesels in their HINO trucks and other trucks for years so I think Toyota has some solid turbo tech under their belt.
That’s why I went with my 3rd Tundra with a 5.7 vs the new Twin turboed V6s. A 2017 TRD Pro.
They definitely have become complacent with the Tundra now. The amount of small features you have to pay extra for such as a subscription for using the built in remote start. No step up from the bumper to the tailgate unless you want to pay extra for the food down step.
For the cost of a house in some areas. Those small amenities shouldn’t be Extra or a monthly fee.
@xdtrl. Smart choice on your part imo. I decided to switch to Tacoma trd pro this time. I am very happy with it in general but sometimes I really miss the roomy cabin, the power, and that beautiful rumble exhaust. I also am not in love with the gear hunting transmission!
@@allenmcdonald1652 wrong. Ford has proven this wrong by a long shot. It's old and tired nonsense saying smaller engine turbo trucks are not long term reliable.
Carful with the Toyota!
The rear axles may fall out!
New recall
😂🤣 you didn’t even read the recall did you? Naw you just repeated what you heard.
But but but but Toyota best!!!
@@Welcometofacsistube but but but they are. How many million mile domestics are their on the road 😂🤣
@@flight2k5 more than you think. And less Toyotas than you think, son.
The only thing that reliable with Toyotas are the fist sized rust holes within 3 years.
Toyota: the most overhyped garbage on the planet
I love wheeling in storms like this :-)
Main thing were testing here is our checkbooks with those 1000$ a month truck payments. 😂😂😂👎 NO THANKS
Most ppl trade there old trucks for almost what they paid for 3-4 years ago, so it’s not that bad on payments
A thousand a month on a truck is worth it if you use it for making money and work
No shit if motherfuckers would just not buy any cars for 6 moths you'd see the price of vehicles fall all the way to hell
But really..70k is the new 50k
F en joke when incomes aren’t going to catch up for a decade 🤬
Love that 6.2 liter V-8
Love the ZR2 content! Y’all are funny!
There is no doubt that the ZR2 was more confident in crossing the rough terrains, and damn it looks way more attractive.
Great video, we need more ZR2 content. That truck never stops amazing me. I got the AT4X and absolutely love this truck. I would like to see you take all three up the trail. I can see Nathan saying, but I have massaging seats!!!!
Just got the 3500 HD AT4 with the Duramax 3 days ago. Great truck so far. Can't wait to hook up my fifth wheel and hit the road.
@@richfarfugnuven6308 I was going to get the at4-3500 but I just went with the Denali 4x4 3500
@@thethiefonthecross9092 it towa ok here in CO. Needs more power.
@@richfarfugnuven6308 you think it needs more power? I pulled my 34 ft camper and it seemed really strong I didn't get no hesitation but the new model that is coming out I believe it's the 2023 they say it has 25% more power at the beginning power range so I might trade mine in for that one LOL even though I think mine has enough power
@@thethiefonthecross9092 I pull my 42 footer through CO all the time amd can only do 45 going up the Ike Gauntlet...
Great video guys!! That Chevy has really impressive approach and departure angles. I was stressed watching that Toyota almost scrape multiple times. The bow tie made it look easy.
Cause it’s a real truck…
@@paulhunter9613 kind of 😀
@@paulhunter9613 real truck? My built 2013 tundra trd with bds suspension and 35s mud terrain tires would absolutely destroy that zr2! Tundras are real trucks chevy poser!
@@fredwilliams7893 so your comparing your "Built" truck too one that comes from the factory off road ready? Lol. The ZR2 would walk ur Tundra 🤣🤣
@@fredwilliams7893 and you proved my point, you had to modify your vehicle to be able to run with a Chevy😳😝
Just based on looks alone I’d go with the ZR2. For offroad……I’d go with the ZR2 also. But I already know there’ll be more aftermarket for the Tundra
zr2 is better stock. Tundra has a higher ceiling
Easy choice … ZR2 is such a great platform; doesn’t even need much in the way of aftermarket “help.”
Since when has a GM 1/2 ton had a small aftermarket? Even if it doesn't have the same kind of aftermarket as a GEN3/GEN4 LSx the GEN5 LTx still has a decent size aftermarket, and likely one bigger than the new Toyota V6 TT engine will have. It even runs the same transmission as Mustang/Camaro/F150 which helps its aftermarket. The biggest deterrent to the Chevy's aftermarket is GM locking up their tuning abilities so tightly.
With that said I'm sure the GEN3 Tundra will have a large enough aftermarket to be able to mod it however you want to.
Zr2 all day
Glad you guys touched it out in the rain. Made for a pretty cool video.
The elephant in the room is the MPG. It's the reason for the smaller tires.
I’m switching from a ford fusion (2013) to a 2022 tundra TRD off road. And tbh. When I took my fusion off roading because I fish in remote places, it made it through all these conditions shown. Some people are surprised but I just sent it and she made it just fine.
lucky next owner of the Fusion LOL
Even more stoked about the Tundra TRD Pro after this video, mine started being manufactured on the 27 of this month, hopefully have it in had by end of next month!
congrats!
Alright…. I tried to look for this comment to give it a like but since I couldn’t find it, here it goes.
-- The thought of driving two great brand new full size pickup trucks in the middle of the rain on a cool beautiful trail, WHILE! Talking shop with your friend over walkies! ---
Man…. Life goals. Love it.
It feels like GM wanted to keep development and special parts as minimal as possible for the ZR2. I think they know the market, while hot, will be ending within the decade because of EV’s. Thankfully the aftermarket can fix the tire size issues
Great content! Im considering both leaning more towards the Tundra
Don’t get stuck because you don’t have any front recovery points or front lockers! 😆😆🤦🏽♂️
I would go Tundra all day. Owned a couple of Chevy’s in my day and I’ve had problems with every single one. Went to Toyota and haven’t looked back. Toyota builds that truck for the everyday person that goes camping on the weekend. Add a Wescott 3 inch lift and 37’s cause they fit with the new body style, and you’ll go everywhere.
I went with the Tundra. Currently waiting on it. I saw a Pro in person and IMO it looks better than the ZR2 and even the Raptor, especially in orange.
@@aidenmcgonigal7377 I have never had any issues with my Chevrolet vehicles.
@@aidenmcgonigal7377 Toyota will leave you on the side of the road. My 2010 tundra was in the shop for a new engine when I towed a boat.
Love the ZR2. Clearly outperforms the Toyota by having more and better off-road gear with front and rear lockers, a better four wheel drive system, state-of-the-art suspension, and one of the best reliable engines from GM, along with a way better approach and departure angle. The ZR2’s current tire size is perfect for day to day use. I wouldn’t change that at all, unless TFL proves that. Great video, TFL.
leaf springs are not state of the art, they are wagon technology
Agree 100% … ZR2 also looks better inside & out IMO.
@@atodaso1668 Shocks are SOTA, and the "wagon technology" says that it's WELL PROVEN. Next case......
@@brianhuffman3202 So it has shocks, cool. That's one step up from an 1800's horse buggy I guess. You realize we do have better technology now right? It has leaf springs for one reason: because GM is cheap. You guys are only just getting 4 wheel disk brakes, and independent suspension in your cars!
Well, Tundra is the only truck that has real Heim (R) rod ends, as in made by Heim in Connecticut. I work for RBC Bearings, we own the Heim division; we are looking to expand usage of actual Heim parts into the Tacoma as well. Funny people call them Heim joints but they are not made by us; auto makers went with cheap stuff, good to see Toyota coming back to actual US-made rod ends, with steel sourced from the US too
Would love to know who makes the steel for the Tundra’s tow hooks. Interesting team of engineers at Toyota…🤦🏽♂️
Yes, I envy you. Don't lie you didn't want to hear that.
@@traxxas_cars160 dude, they said "heim", not "hemi".
Because it doesn't have recovery points, I can't wait to see a TRD pro Tundra get stuck just to see how they go about getting it out.
This is nothing new. Hook to the lower control arms or rip the flimsy clipped on black center portion of the bumper and hook onto the frame rail.
Hook it too the ugly grill, Rip it off and then maybe it would look better
My 2WD Silverado even has them.
@@CACressida Thats kind of the point. You shouldn't have to remove the bumper on a $70K truck when you get if you get stuck.
@@rdsii64 and then some will say you shouldn't take a $70k truck offroad. You see, this was a total oversight on Toyotas behalf. They were so blind sided by the towhook debacle they're literally back to the drawing board to give the refresh some tow hooks. Every Toyota truck up until this new Tundra has had tow hooks. Even my 4 door toyota sedan has FOUR recovery points on the chassis.
Either way, most people who do serious wheeling in their trucks rip off the garbage pedestrian friendly bumpers and put winch bumpers on anyway. Engineered for better approach angles, better protection, better recovery points and in my opinion, better looks.
That was a great review of both trucks. I would chose the ZR2. That's the way to review them. In a storm.
70k, lol. What's happening to this world? I was in a showroom not long ago and they had a truck, not special edition, just a loaded truck, for like 90k. WTH?
Would love to see the F150 Tremor matched up against these two.
Its real competation is the Trail Boss
@@mbukukanyau It has the same size tires as the ZR2. Plus a rear locker and torsion front diff. It's absolutely a direct competitor for the ZR2.
@@quintili1 The Trail-boss also has the G80 rear rocker, runs a size 32 tire, pretty much toes over the ZR 2.
The only thing Toyota would argue it has over the trail boss is the shocks. But, trail boss has Bilstein monotube 5100 shock absorbers which give it good travel over the regular pick ups, has pretty much as advanced as possible traction control system with a clutch system in its 4WD transfer case to manage power back and front. Anyways, in the end, it comes down to personal preference. For me, the only reason to get a ZR2 is front rocker. That totally makes it superior to all trucks.
The Truck King channel made a video comparing the tremor and ZR2
Great video, these are really the two trucks that compete with each other a step below Raptor and TRX.
It would be cool to see the tremor with them aswell
Two steps below the TRX
@@ElDaddy007 also 40k below
@@baldomerovega65 gottttem
Remember when you can get a lot of truck for 45k? That wasn’t that long ago
Tundra is noticeably quieter than zr2
Yh cos it's a hybrid
@@Reu_ag and doesn't have a N/A v8 and performance exhaust
🙄
Its cause of the glass roof is much quieter in the rain
I definitely noticed reduced rain noise in the Tundra too. Not sure why.
The trd is bad ass, definitely my pick. Although the Chevy looks great too. I hope we see more from these two
I like the way it looks. But batteries and turbos over 100k? No thanks.
@@davec.3198 idk. This technology isn’t new or anything. I’d trust this hybrid engine before trusting a Chevy v8
@@ravensfootball52 Battery tech isn't new, but it ages and replacement is very expensive. So are turbos.
Both are wear items that have a very finite life over 100k.
@@davec.3198 that’s a good point. Would be nice if they offered a long term warranty to show us they believe in their product
@@ravensfootball52 Toyota warranties their hybrid batteries for 10 years/150k miles.
Both trucks look awesome but the lower stance and clearance in the yota made me clinch my teeth with every angle and not so much with the ZR2
It's mind boggling to me that Toyota wouldn't offer an off-road package for the TRD to include a front and rear bumper with much better approach and departure angles. That tells me they're not really in touch with the community using their trucks.
If people want to off-road and want a Toyota, they buy a TRD Tacoma, not Tundra. These trucks are for construction foreman lol, not off-roaders.
I'd take the ZR2 anyday over those turbos.
👍🏻 CORRECT
Chevy reliability is garbage, especially for that 6.2. Their diesel is the only engine worth getting.
Goodluck reselling it 5 years from now from the junkyard. TOYOTA is the KING of all trucks. Thats why They exported and transformed into tanks. Chevy 😂😂 disposable
@@18HunnidBK I'm not a Chevy fan by any means but Toyota messed up by switching to the small engine with turbos, they've already had tons of major issues with them. And yes as far as reliability in the older trucks Toyota was hard to beat but they couldn't haul or tow anywhere close to the 3 American brands. They're good for hauling a loaf of bread home from the store & that's about it.
@Brian Jake Gaming NO. Toyota copied Ecoboost and Powerboost from Ford
For 70 g’s I’d buy a stock Chevy 2500 or a Ford 250 or Ram 2500 and put 6” lift, king or Fox shocks with reservoir overflow’s and be able to be either one of those trucks hands down and probably have 10 grand in your pocket still..
Will the ZR2 get the diesel that the Trail Boss has as an option? Upper 20's mpg is much better than low teens.
Yes. They’ll be releasing a BISON 🦬 trim soon and that one will come with a diesel
Really enjoyed the video during the storm. Real world testing at its best.
It would be awesome if the straight six Duramax was an option in the ZR2.
It will be soon when they release the bison trim
I'm in the market for a full-size truck and just dropping that much money for a brand new one I had to make sure I picked the right one. It's down to two the Toyota Tundra 2023 TRD PRO and the Chevy Silverado ZR2, but man I have seen so many videos of disappointed customers with the reliability of the Silverado truck along with mechanical problems with the other big brand the Ford F150 Tremor. So my money goes to the TRD PRO Tundra.
I’d probably buy a Tremor if I were in the market for something like this, but that ZR2 looks pretty good.
For an additional 20k you could.
Too much for me. As I have no need for that much truck for towing. If Toyota offered a bronco like truck like the series 70 landcruiser. I’d buy it. But so far the Tacoma gets the job done. The 4Runner is cool but I prefer the Tacoma for its interior and chain driven motor and 6speed
ZR2 CHEVY SILVERADO VS FORD TREMOR (WHOS THE BEST OF THE BEST)
TOW-MPG-ETC...(YOU guys are the best at testing) obviously THIS TEST SITE your doing now. And TRUTH OR DARE...
OR FORD RANGER TREMOR VS CHEVYS COLORADO ZR2 OR EVEN THE BISON....HOPEFULLY will see these test soon.
One thing that is never mentioned when comparing HP numbers is where that power is made in the rpm range and thus how usable and practical it is. I suspect the turbo’d engine needs to wrapped pretty tight to get those numbers. If so the lower powered Chevy might actually feel more powerful in real world applications.
Turbos will usually have more low end torque
The hybrid system on the tundra helps with low end torque as well.
Peak torque around 2,400 rpm. Tundra will dawg that Chevy.
Electric motors have ALL their torque at near zero RPM.
@@HereForTheBeer1497 especially at elevation like where TFL lives
Nothing scares Andre the Russian bear! Great video guys. Actually pretty cool to see a video while in a storm.
The ZR2 is amazing, looks capability, power. That Tundra just looks off - tires suck and just still has the same issues as all of its previous ones. Anyone can clearly see that the ZR2 is superior.
Thanks for the dedication to making this video I really enjoyed it !
ZR2 all day long great looking truck 🛻
Guys please read the manual on Toyotas. It’s so painful watching car journalists try to engage 4H when stationary while it clearly says in the manual to engage it while moving, in which case it goes in immediately.
EXACTLY, they already went through this while testing the Tacomas. 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻 and yet they still seem like rookies
It should engage immediately at all times
They always seem like rookies, like car salesmen that aren't really car guys, its pretty weird actually...
@@martinsiedlecki if you know Toyota trucks, it doesn’t. Trucks needs to be moving a bit in order to engage.
You shouldn't have to do that in any truck in 2022. Toyota is being cheap because they know their fans will accept it. Most other brands haven't had the issue for decades.
Interior sound. I noticed how loud the rain sounded in the zr2 vs trd pro. Maybe it's just an issue of camera placement but if it actually is quieter in the trd, would be cool to mention.
Good catch. I have a 2019 Silverado and any time it rains hard it’s very loud inside the cab to the point it’s annoying.
I just commented on that too. It was one of the first things I noticed.
Can you add some cross-ditches to your testing courses? Those are probably the biggest obstacle that stops cars from being able to go further up trails in my area, and I'd love to be able to include practical demonstrations into my purchasing decisions
As soon as the Silverado ZR2 🦬 with Duramax option is out and AEV has high clearance fender kit for 35s or 37s I'm in.
Love the banter - your channels are only getting better!! Keep them coming.
I think Toyota is nuts for charging the same price as a base Raptor for that truck.
Agree & exactly why the Tundra is 5th place in sales for the segment.
I’m a tundra guy and own the 22 but if I didn’t the Chevy would be my next choice
Wish these trucks weren't so darned expensive. I remember when $30k was too much! lol.
You can tell these two had awesome fun today thanks to the elements and the impromptu review
That TRD Pro looks bad ass!
I'm not seeing it.
Get your 👀 ✔️ 🙈
The Jurassic park rain 🌧️ makes the video better
Was the difference in cab noise during the rain accurate? Or was it microphone placement, etc? Because from the video, the interior of the Silverado sounded a lot louder.
And on the Tundra , the curtain was also open exposing the full glass to the rain with out the buffer????
The obvious big difference during a time when gas costs $4.50 -$6.50 a gallon is the 22-26 MPG with the TRD!!! And you get so much more HP and torque!!!
bingo. and inherent reliability
The ZR2 is the winner in looks and aesthetics. Place a U Between T RD and it sums up its appearance.
TUNDRA owner .my 2007 TUNDRA has 405000 miles on it with all original powertrane.. Id like to see that chevy passed 200000 miles.
I love my Toyotas, but I would love to ve in the room where Toyota folks argue AGAINST welding some recovery points to the truck. It HAS to be inexpensive to do, everyone else has them - but instead they omit them and people have to try and justify their absence.
Wow I must say The cabin in the Toyota is a lot quieter than in the Chevy
Do you think that these trucks might take the same amount of time to shift into (with a little movement) 4wd but the Silverado assumes it'll be good once they start driving so they make the light solid right away and the Tundra is actually just being more... transparent?
No, GM has never had the light come on until the 4wd is engaged. It's just a faster engagement and a better design.
Remember when Jeep used to test their new models for the trail rated badge , over the Rubicon Trail? lets test the ZR 2 ,TRD Pro, 150 Tremor, Powerwagon , and see who comes out on top . who wants to see that?
Wgag. Landcruisers shit on white girl jeeps
Let's be honest. Toyota's 4WD is out of date; engaging 4H by reversing?
It's because any part time 4wd system needs movement to engage.
@@diltzm my 2004 Chevrolet 2500HD crew cab Duramax 4x4 does not need movement to engage.
They all need movement to engage, It’s mechanical meshing of the gears. Toyota just flashes to warn you that its not locked in yet. As a matter of fact, the Borg Warner transfer case is nearly identical to the one in the Ford part time tcase. A transfer case is shifted by a lever or in this case, a motor that moves a shift fork. There’s no high-tech way of doing it differently.
I’ll still take Toyotas 4WD over Chevy’s 4wd. I want the truth of if my hubs are locked. They’re mechanical Chevy gives a false positive
@@CACressida I don’t know, I put my 2020 Trail Boss LT into 4H quite a bit from a standstill with zero problems.
I am so jealous you guys are in that environment driving really nice trucks!
It took me 4 hours to watch this video because the sound of rain on the roof kept putting me to sleep 🛌, but that’s alright because it took 4 hours to charge my Lightning from 50% to 100%.
LOL
Hopefully toyota will listen to their customers and redesign the front end and put recovering hooks
I hate the cop out! Both guys didn’t wanna make the Toyota or Chevy guys mad! I have the ZR2 and I absolutely love it! I’m sure some things may be better about the TRD. I Personally like the lockers and approach angles. Also I hate to say it but the V8 is a goner soon. Sad but true!
Curious if a VHS tape fit in the Chevy flow-tie?
The weather made this video even better
Roman: "Under the hood of the Chevy there are no turbos, no batteries..." Opens hood, shows battery on passenger side.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jesus Christ…quit trolling
@@Icutmetal grow up and quit crying
@@domin8ss Huh?
I can't wait until you guys get the Raptor Ranger
I'm sure that Toyota is a fine truck but I would have to go with the ZR2 because of the front lockers and because I have owned NOTHING but GM vehicles my entire life. Well I did have a 1970 Mercury Montego with a 302 Boss. Loved that car.
Time to diversify. You don’t know what you are missing!
Long time Tundra and Tacoma owner here. It truly matters what you have owned previously and how that experience turned out. I have ALWAYS hung my beliefs on Toyama reliability (30 years, multiple trucks, and virtually zero issues). I am not sure that hold true now with the 3.5 and twin turbos. ZR2 is DEFINITELY mor capable off-road though.
@@StubProductions Toyota has tanked lately and you can be a GOOD American and keep your money here and not give it to the Pearl Harbor decedents.
@@brianhuffman3202 Toyota has tanked lately? Lol! Give me a break. Many of the Toyota vehicles sold in North America are more American made than any GM (makes tons of parts in China), Ford (many made in Mexico including new electric cars) and Dodge (owned by company in Netherlands). Japan and Germany were reformed by the USA after WWII and are now both great allies. If you don’t wanna buy a Toyota fine… but don’t spread false information and make childish comments.
At the 20:18 mark in the video you can see the tire lose contact with the surface .
The ZR2 needs an inverter in the bed and it will be the perfect truck
Or just bring a generator and use it everywhere
@@atlasstjames5904 way too loud
@@TheCoffeeField buy a Honda, super quiet, use it anywhere.
Good Video, but at the 9:11 - 9:15 mark: Just one of the reasons to never get a Moonroof on a truck.
ZR2 is sweet! 🤘🏻
Watching that made me remember why I keep my old 89 Dakota 4x4 over any 70 thousand dollar new truck! that comes with two hundred dollar plus insurance payments! That couldn't even think about following a thirty-three year old mostly stock truck with fifty dollar a month insurance payments. Lmao. That made my day
To fix the TRD-Pro:
ARB Front locker $2,000
CBI Front bumper $1800
295/70-18 tires $1400
Minor trimming $free
Total $77,200
To fix the ZR2:
295/70-18 tires $1400
Minor trimming $free
Total $71,000
The Tundra would be better than the ZR2 after these mods. More power, better mpg, and better suspension. I'll take the ZR2 as long as I can order without DFM.
Neither worth 45k
Tell Roman that if he's gonna talk food he needs to buy Lunch. As for the Trucks, I'd be willing to drive either one of them. Although I would prefer better MPG than either one gets. Still the trade off might be worth it.
Which is all the shame that the 3.0L Turbodiesel isn't available in the ZR2.
The whole video I'm thinking my old 120 Prado would chew that trail up pretty easily and I just can't comprehend spending $70k on a truck to go off roading that you wouldn't want to get scratched or dinged. I can't get over how long each wheelbase is, either! The Toyota looks like a parade float.
So would our 78 Land Cruiser, and same, no sweat over a ding...
99% of the tundra owners won’t take it off-road, at most it will more like a gravel road
@@paulhunter9613 Thats why everyone drives Toyotas in Australia and Africa and every desert in the world? You have to be joking. If you want to go into the desert in the Outback or Sahara take anything you like, if you want to COME OUT get a Toyota. Dominate the world for good reason
@@02hreblue30 they prob have to drive TOYotas in those countries because that’s all that is available. Fortunately my country isn’t all desert , maybe yours is. You have my sympathy. And the small areas of desert we do have, I find no reason to drive around in it. If I feel the need to play in the sand I’ll go to the beach. And I’ll do it in a/c comfort
One thing i cant get passed is how a new 2022 redesigned tundra , wont think about small details that are detrimental for a pickup truck... recovery points.. and easy bed access like corner steps or tail gate engineering
past
I'm diehard Toyota. Tundra and Sequoia but I'm going to have to give it to the 6.2L Bowtie. Fck Toyota V6 turbo hybrid junk.