@@TFLoffroad that 1st gen tacoma,here in aus,is a 100 series,with a tub,we never got the tub version,so theres a huge industry here cutting the backs off them..to fit camper trays..go find yourself a s/duty,2002,4.2tdi,cab chassis.german MWM diesel,built in brazil..better than your 7.3.nearly..
I have an '02 model, currently at 275,000 miles and just replaced the factory clutch. it's been the best, most reliable vehicle I've ever owned hands down.
Man that baby yota is so nice, i loved my 2007 single cab 4wd tacoma with the 2.7, still regret selling it, it was so agile off road and was great on gas. Truck was incredibly reliable had no problems in the 6 years i owned it and i beat on it pretty good too
No you want a pre Tacoma Toyota pickup or early hilux with solid front axles.. a sa toy with modest mods will walk pretty much anything anywhere.. it’s why when you hit the hard trails all you see are sa toys and jeeps mostly. Hard to beat a 101wb toy sa with dual transfers.. I’ve been embarrassed more then I’d like to admit by them with fully built jeeps.. I had a 2000 2wd prerunner once upon a time for a daily on 31x10.5 cheap muds and it would walk plenty of built lifted z71’s and others.. hell it was even the auto and all I’d do is throw it to 1st and bounce off the limiter. It would go places that would blow others minds had it been 4wd yet it was just a 2wd lol.. just doesn’t take much to keep a light truck moving and wheel speed always worked..
The first gen Tacoma’s are probably one of the best trucks ever made. I know several of them that have 300k+ miles on them and they’re still on the road and running great. Plus they’ll go just about anywhere you want them to with the right tires under them.
Mine is a '02 Tacoma PreRunner Double Cab 2.7 liter with over 416K miles on her and she runs like a champ after a rebuild of the engine. A free truck with a little bit of work and TLC can go a long way and run on forever.
I had one too. 20r 2.2L L43 4 spd trans out of the supra, 3.73 gears. No power steering and 33 10.50 tires. Was a beotch, but you have never experienced a toyota until you get a 79-85. Factory front axle is best.
Oh yeah. Had a 79 and a 81SR5. Remember those solid front axles and leaf springs. Jar your liver a spleen when you hit a whoop te doooo. Mine road all the trails at Ft. Bragg. Man that was some good times with my buddies. I have a 2001 extended cab now. 300,000 miles.
Andre, let me explain the "clutch start cancel (CSC)" feature; its been there on Manual transmission FJ cruisers since they came out in 2007 model year. If you stall the engine for any reason on an steep slope, pressing the clutch to start the engine will cause it to roll back, which means you have to use the brake, when you really need to use the gas pedal to give it enough power to move. In order to keep your right foot on the gas pedal, ready once the engine starts again, you leave the car in gear (Low range 1st (preferred), maybe 2nd). Now you press the CSC button and crank the engine. The low gearing allows the starter to spin the engine and start it (in gear) without touching the gas, and without declutching (obviously). You don't need to be in neutral to do this like you were, and on level ground. Once the engine starts, you keep moving forward immediately using the gas pedal where your right foot is ready to go. If you are an expert with the pedals, you can do without the CSC, though there will be a little more drama depending on the amount of slope. This comes in handy on rocky slopes where you might stall frequently, and is a good trick to scare a salesman on a test drive. I did this on the FJ on a icy slope on a test drive and the salesman was really beside himself before he realized what I did.
I never knew this was a real feature on any vehicle. Had to do this while transporting a buddies b2000 when the clutch master cylinder failed. Just left it in gear and turned it off when coming up to a stop light, then crank it up when it was time to go and had to be on point with the shifts to not grind. We just made it where we were going before the battery started to drain and the starter was probably hot. I thought I was pretty clever, but I guess not hahaha
FYI Andre, the clutch start cancel, is not so you can do neat tricks, like starting without pushing the clutch, and impressing your friends. The clutch start cancel, is so you can start in gear, while on a hill, and not roll backwards, like you would if you had to push in the clutch. I'm guessing the old manual tacos have the same button, although it might be called 'Hill start assist", like my 89 toy.
I was on the Dude I Love/Hate My Ride back in 2019 with my 3rd Gen Tacoma TRD OR with a manual transmission. I love the stick shift on the trails now with a lot more seat time since that review. With some new tires and sliders, it has been a perfect backroad cruiser in Colorado. Long live the manual transmission.
I have a 3rd Gen and I LOVE it. It’s so good off road. Tires make such a big difference though. I bet that 1st Gen will improve a lot with more aggressive tires and mild lift. Awesome video. Really enjoyed this one.
I loved my short cab 1996 Tacoma with 5spd 4 cylinder. I wish I would have kept it. Add a rear selectable locker and I am pretty sure the old Taco will keep up with the new one. One of the better videos in recent memory.
Great review! Thank you gentleman! Having owned a 1998 TRD Off Road Supercharged 5sp manual and now a 2019 TRD Off Road 6sp manual... I miss the old one for its nostalgia and simplicity. However the new one is on another level. Both required suspension upgrades to fully shine. Sold the 98 for $11,500 bought the 19 for $34,500. Have put 10k in parts into it, its way better than a TRD PRO and still cost less out the door. Either way these vehicle provide years of trusty service and hold their value.
That little old Toyota in a trd model v6 with the rear diff locker and manual transmission and decent tires/lift will go through anything. If you can find one, buy it.
Mine is a '02 Tacoma PreRunner Double Cab 2.7 liter with over 416K miles on her and she runs like a champ after a rebuild of the engine. A free truck with a little bit of work and TLC can go a long way and run on forever.
Went trailing with a buddy who had just bought an 02 tacoma stock with 4wd on street tires. In Arizona he made it through chiva falls which is pretty challenging trail normally you'd want a lift and 33's at least. He kept up with my lifted cherokee rock crawler build no problem. These lil older trucks are extremely capable from factory with 4x4.
Im probably going to get rid of my gen 3 for a gen 1. As a young guy, the 1,000/ month isnt worth when i can do the same with another tacoma for half the monthly expendature.
Subscribed ! Love your content , keep up the videos like this , it’s great to see real real world applications of practical off road situations. I’d personally take the TRD OFF ROAD just because my old body needs a a little pampering these days with the added features and benefits of the newer technology, but I gotta say , I was impressed with the performance of the old school Taco ! It takes my mains back to a time when life was just simpler and I had a lot more fun especially four wheeling with my buddies. I used to be a keep guy , had a 77’ CJ7 Golden Eagle with a 304 , Black Jack Headers , Thrush Sonic Turbo mufflers and a set of Super Swamper 33” tires , low range transfer case , that thing would crawl through anything , but it was a ROUGH riding bumpity ass thing to drive as a daily driver . I’ve never had Toyota but I’m seriously considering one of these new TRD Off Road / maybe the Pro … just waiting to see the next gen possibility of Tacos … I’m hearing 2023 a new model ?
I would love to see what the outcome would be if both Tacomas had the same tires and go the same speed. With enough speed a 2wd truck would make it up that hill but that mud pit is a different beast.
Also, those Michelin’s are pretty good for what they are. Good wear for an AT, great in snow, and decent off-road. The 1st gen Tacoma looks great with them.
Great video TFL! Gotta love the hat Andre!!!lol surprised at the end with baby Yota’s accomplishments!!! Baby Yota shows to be a good bang for the buck!!
The median household income in Colorado in 2002 was $48,294 The MSRP in 2002 of a base 4x4 Tacoma regular cab was $16,310 Thats 33.8% of your yearly income The median household income in Colorado in 2019 was $72,499 The MSRP in 2019 of a Tacoma TRD pro v6 double cab was $42,960 Thats 59.3% of your yearly income For when the elders tell you they had it harder than you. God help you if your a factory family in today's market. Household income stats came from www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/income-poverty/historical-income-households.html Vehicle pricing came from www.autoblog.com/toyota/tacoma/
Yeah, when you run numbers like that it's scary. Where I live in the Northeast, the median home price is 612K, and the median income is 65K. Doesn't work out very well for most people. I'm comfortably renting right now, but when it comes time to buy a home, I'm probably going to need to leave my job and this whole region.
@@trailrunnah8886 my father bought a 12 year old house, one of the first manufactured homes from the late 60s/early 70s, on 2.5 acres in 1982 for $34,000. The real estate agents got ahold of it last year and put it up for $130,000. Land is commonly $10,000 an acre here, so that's $26,000 for the land. Imagine paying $100,000 for a 50 year old double wide trailer. This is a very disheartening time to be in the formative years of your life.
Msrp of my 04 Tacoma was 24k. It was an xtra cab but did have a couple options. 2.7l motor, auto trans, 4x4. Had sr5 package, cruise control, power windows, mirrors and door locks. Pretty pricey back then.
Nothing wrong with the old school rig. Surprised at how well it performed, considering no rear locker and an automatic. Actually, well driven; picking the right lines, great adjustments, well timed acceleration points etc. Loved the manual trans and 4.30 gearing in the new boy, and that lunar rock, ROCKS. PLUS it has that rear locker. So GLAD I have a 2022 Lunar Rock TRD OFF ROAD scheduled to be delivered next month (with a manual trans). Had the money so why not? But if I didn't have the money, the older models would be perfectly fine as you just showed. Really good video!!
@@LilTaco777 ya, it's due to the long intake plenum and cam profiles they stuck in these. It's pretty unfortunate actually imo.. I'd gladly trade a little less torque for a more satisfying top end
Tacoma is a great truck. Spray the hell out of the frame and keep it as clean as you can and it will not rust out. The rest is pretty well dead reliable and a great off road truck. It will be more civilized to drive than the JEEP on road.
I have a 2002 Tacoma TRD, V6 with 4 doors. I am the 2nd owner. It was my dads truck until about 3 years ago. My Tacoma takes me wherever I want to go, AND it didn't cost me 60,000 dollars.
Lockers are great as they will obviously help with traction and reduce damage to the track by reducing wheel spin. However, open diffs will make you a better driver. When I started driving 4 wheel drive machines over 40 years ago traction aided devices were very few. Also, even though the Michelin LTX is not an aggressive tire by any stretch of the imagination, they have performed very well and never let me down or failed to get me through any 4wd track that I have been on here in Colorado.
I’m not the biggest fan of trucks, I drive a small hatchback, but I really like the first gen Tacoma and would love to get one some day to take camping and off-roading!
Good to hear that! Do you daily drive your 80's tacoma? I am looking for a kinda old school trucks for now. For road trip, daily drive with manual tranny. Thanks
I run a 2003 Taco X-Cab with the V6. 459 000 kilometers on the clock, reframed by Toyota in 2011, top to bottom body job last year including new front fenders, hood, rear bumper, and rust-free bed from Florida. Also replaced last year: oxygen sensors 1 and 2, upper and lower ball joints, both sides, calipers and rotors both sides, rear drums and drum kits both sides, timing belt, water pump, evap canister, fuel pump, power steering pump, rack and alternator. All that for much less than a year's payments on that 2021 TRD, and it doesn't burn a drop of oil. I plan to keep driving it until Toyota comes to their senses and returns to manufacturing true quarter-ton trucks.
Don’t remember seeing it in the video but the “Clutch start” button should be used while in 1st so when you turn on your taco, it starts rolling foward. Meant to be used when your truck turns off on a steep hill and you don’t want to roll down :)
Nice comparo for us Taco Fanboys. I love them all, but have a 2011 TRD Off Road Double cab, and I don't do anything crazy off road. I live near Assateague Island National Seashore OSV and get on the beach often. I have the Michelin LTX II tires, yes, because I mainly drive on the highway. It is a beast on the OSV. Been to Delaware National Seashore parks, and also to Corolla NC. And up to Carova without ever an issue.
iirc there was an option to get a locking rear diff on 1st Gen models, but don't plan on being able to find one, but if you do they're usually upwards of 8 grand.
The clutch cancel is actually so you can crawl the truck with the starter motor in 4L. I think the manual is key. I have a 2nd gen std cab 4banger 4x4 SR...not even a 5. LOL. But in 4L, it goes pretty much anywhere I need it to go without lockers. That said, a rear locker is on the "to do" list.
Old Man Emu 2 inch lift, 285's. ARB rear air locker. LC Engineering low boost 4.5 lbs supercharger. Easy cheap and will kick butt. Love my 2000 4runner with the same gear.
I gotta say, nice driving at the end in the "Baby Yota". I always wondered if you could get through a particularly difficult mud hole by going around the edge like that. Its something I will have to tuck away for the next time I am off roading.
Baby Yota is perfect. Don't change tore size. Get some Ko2s or wild peaks (the LTXs are very good Gore's, just pricey). Andre, Tommy didn't cheat, that's called using what you have. Lol.
No I think he's never driven a manual gearbox before because they always start in neutral it's when you're not in neutral you have to press on the clutch I think they're feature is so that if you stall out upperhill you don't have to mess around with the brakes they knew Americans wouldn't know how to drive a manual well some of them I will admit that is a neat feature
Man, I had a 2003 TRD Tacoma with 300k miles, no issues and ran perfect. sold it for 9k with 300k miles and I'll tell ya now, biggest regret of my life haha best truck I ever had!
I may be wrong but I believe the clutch start cancel feature is engaged to get you out of the slippery area. Put in gear in the starter will ride the system to move you slower than trying to ride the clutch. I think?
I've never had a tacoma without a rear locker and a V6, but for less than a new set of tires you can throw in a rear locker and that old taco will run up anything!
Most fun video in a while, nice work guys
Thank you for watching!
@@TFLoffroad that 1st gen tacoma,here in aus,is a 100 series,with a tub,we never got the tub version,so theres a huge industry here cutting the backs off them..to fit camper trays..go find yourself a s/duty,2002,4.2tdi,cab chassis.german MWM diesel,built in brazil..better than your 7.3.nearly..
@@TFLoffroad SR5,in aus,was a hilux..
@@TFLoffroad 111
It isn't cheating if you know how to drive lol 😂😂
I have an '02 model, currently at 275,000 miles and just replaced the factory clutch. it's been the best, most reliable vehicle I've ever owned hands down.
How much did that cost you?
I have an 02 Double Cab 4x4 that I bought brand new. I love it. I'm approaching 419,000.
@@evanjanse4038 I have a 2003 4 door, trd, 4x4 bought new with 144,000 miles
Same mine has 574 329 miles original 5 speed trans and engine . never been rebuilt runs great . Toyota... This Old Yota Outlast Them All
I got a 2001 taco single cab with 48,000 on her. Pretty sure I’m just breaking her in 🤣
The part at the end where Tommy takes the old Tacoma around the hole was priceless. I thought it was stuck for sure. Great video.
I laughed my ass off
Smart driving is not "cheating". :^)
Ye i started laughing then oh oh ooohhhhhh!
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I was caught off guard 😂😂 but that little truck is a beast
I miss the smaller style Tacoma’s
And rangers back in the 90s early 2000s
@@tdel8613 they were tiny and old/classic all the way until 2012.
@@austinreed347 yeah they just got too expensive by then.
@@tdel8613 by know they would be great used trucks
Yup! I tell myself if i dont end up buying a full size truck and get a bronco/wrangler, id def pick up a little ranger for hauling and house projects.
I would love to see a video with a first gen Tundra vs new Tacoma. They’re about the same size.
First gen will always be the king Tacoma. It set the standard for every generation that came after it. I wish they'd come out with a small Taco again.
That old taco is pretty perfect. I would keep the tire size but go to an aggressive tread, and then add a selectable rear locker.
The rear locker would help a lot.
Absolutely agree. I'd take the old vs the new.
@@tyrelsimpson152 I think with a manual transmission and a rear locker the baby yota can go places. I just wished it was dual cab.
@@rampagedingo IMO I’d spend money first on a front auto locker before a selectable rear.
@@rampagedingo I've got a 99 5 speed 3.4 on 35's, 4.88 gearing, front and rear locker and that thing can go places!
Man that baby yota is so nice, i loved my 2007 single cab 4wd tacoma with the 2.7, still regret selling it, it was so agile off road and was great on gas. Truck was incredibly reliable had no problems in the 6 years i owned it and i beat on it pretty good too
Would you recommend getting the v6 4wd or is it not as reliable?
I'd love to have a gen 1 tacoma with some lockers.
Buddy had one with lockers. Thing would litteraly climb a tree.
I traded an 80s motorcycle that I had $700 total into for my 1st gen tacoma. It needed a little work, but happy to be apart of the tacoma famoly
No you want a pre Tacoma Toyota pickup or early hilux with solid front axles.. a sa toy with modest mods will walk pretty much anything anywhere.. it’s why when you hit the hard trails all you see are sa toys and jeeps mostly. Hard to beat a 101wb toy sa with dual transfers.. I’ve been embarrassed more then I’d like to admit by them with fully built jeeps..
I had a 2000 2wd prerunner once upon a time for a daily on 31x10.5 cheap muds and it would walk plenty of built lifted z71’s and others.. hell it was even the auto and all I’d do is throw it to 1st and bounce off the limiter. It would go places that would blow others minds had it been 4wd yet it was just a 2wd lol.. just doesn’t take much to keep a light truck moving and wheel speed always worked..
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@@thehashslaingingslasher stock rear differential lock on my 2004. Idk if it actually works though
The lesson learned here is. No matter what 4x4. Knowing your vehicle & picking the right line is your best bet. Good demos guys 🤙🏼
I'm a GM guy and I don't think I've ever cheered for a truck more than I did for baby yota.
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Funny enough I think that truck was a joint venture between Toyota and GM
I must agree with Tommy on this one. That little tácito is well worth the money.
Yep I was rooting for that Little Taco, or Taquito in Español 😂😆
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Some ARB lockers and that 02 Taco would be a monster.
I JUST GOT MY BRAND NEW 2022 4X4 OFFROAD TACO MOONROCK AND I LOVE IT...THIS IS MY #6 TACO
I feel sorry for you.
The first gen Tacoma’s are probably one of the best trucks ever made. I know several of them that have 300k+ miles on them and they’re still on the road and running great. Plus they’ll go just about anywhere you want them to with the right tires under them.
@Joshua Awesome!! That’s one more I know of then!!👌🏽
@@CPMUNSEY 1994 2wd 4cly 320,000. love this thing, hopefully keeping forever, especially considering gas prices haha
Mine is a '02 Tacoma PreRunner Double Cab 2.7 liter with over 416K miles on her and she runs like a champ after a rebuild of the engine. A free truck with a little bit of work and TLC can go a long way and run on forever.
@@hardcorerebel620 That’s awesome! When did you have to have the factory engine rebuilt?
i had one of the original Toyota 4x4 1979 if memory serves me right. it was indescribable and went every where. i had a 3” lift and 33” super swampers
I had one too. 20r 2.2L L43 4 spd trans out of the supra, 3.73 gears. No power steering and 33 10.50 tires. Was a beotch, but you have never experienced a toyota until you get a 79-85. Factory front axle is best.
Oh yeah. Had a 79 and a 81SR5. Remember those solid front axles and leaf springs. Jar your liver a spleen when you hit a whoop te doooo. Mine road all the trails at Ft. Bragg. Man that was some good times with my buddies. I have a 2001 extended cab now. 300,000 miles.
Our 02 Tacoma 2.4liter 5 speed manual 2wd has only needed an ac compressor lower ball joints a couple o2 sensors and exhaust repairs in 293k miles.
Installing a lockright lockers is so easy and cheap on the old Tacoma
Andre, let me explain the "clutch start cancel (CSC)" feature; its been there on Manual transmission FJ cruisers since they came out in 2007 model year. If you stall the engine for any reason on an steep slope, pressing the clutch to start the engine will cause it to roll back, which means you have to use the brake, when you really need to use the gas pedal to give it enough power to move. In order to keep your right foot on the gas pedal, ready once the engine starts again, you leave the car in gear (Low range 1st (preferred), maybe 2nd). Now you press the CSC button and crank the engine. The low gearing allows the starter to spin the engine and start it (in gear) without touching the gas, and without declutching (obviously). You don't need to be in neutral to do this like you were, and on level ground. Once the engine starts, you keep moving forward immediately using the gas pedal where your right foot is ready to go. If you are an expert with the pedals, you can do without the CSC, though there will be a little more drama depending on the amount of slope. This comes in handy on rocky slopes where you might stall frequently, and is a good trick to scare a salesman on a test drive. I did this on the FJ on a icy slope on a test drive and the salesman was really beside himself before he realized what I did.
I never knew this was a real feature on any vehicle. Had to do this while transporting a buddies b2000 when the clutch master cylinder failed. Just left it in gear and turned it off when coming up to a stop light, then crank it up when it was time to go and had to be on point with the shifts to not grind. We just made it where we were going before the battery started to drain and the starter was probably hot. I thought I was pretty clever, but I guess not hahaha
When you are out in the woods and you need to get through an obstacle....there is no cheating.
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FYI Andre, the clutch start cancel, is not so you can do neat tricks, like starting without pushing the clutch, and impressing your friends. The clutch start cancel, is so you can start in gear, while on a hill, and not roll backwards, like you would if you had to push in the clutch. I'm guessing the old manual tacos have the same button, although it might be called 'Hill start assist", like my 89 toy.
I was on the Dude I Love/Hate My Ride back in 2019 with my 3rd Gen Tacoma TRD OR with a manual transmission. I love the stick shift on the trails now with a lot more seat time since that review. With some new tires and sliders, it has been a perfect backroad cruiser in Colorado. Long live the manual transmission.
1996 was first taco. Had one, 2.7 manual, extended cab LX. sold it with 240,000 miles for $4000. Such a great machine!!
I have a 3rd Gen and I LOVE it. It’s so good off road. Tires make such a big difference though. I bet that 1st Gen will improve a lot with more aggressive tires and mild lift.
Awesome video. Really enjoyed this one.
Put some Falken Wildpeak AT3W tires on the old taco!
Best tires
Duratracs all day
NASCAR slicks, so it will get up that hill faster!
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Nitto ridge grapplers
Agree old school all the way 👍
You guys have the best jobs ever. I never have that much fun at work.
I loved my short cab 1996 Tacoma with 5spd 4 cylinder. I wish I would have kept it. Add a rear selectable locker and I am pretty sure the old Taco will keep up with the new one.
One of the better videos in recent memory.
Can’t beat the first generation
I am the proud owner of a 2002 Xtended cab 4WD with 265,000 km and it never skips a beat !
Great review! Thank you gentleman! Having owned a 1998 TRD Off Road Supercharged 5sp manual and now a 2019 TRD Off Road 6sp manual... I miss the old one for its nostalgia and simplicity. However the new one is on another level. Both required suspension upgrades to fully shine. Sold the 98 for $11,500 bought the 19 for $34,500. Have put 10k in parts into it, its way better than a TRD PRO and still cost less out the door. Either way these vehicle provide years of trusty service and hold their value.
whats a good site you recommend to buy the suspension upgrades?
Dudes loving the clutch cancel that's been on the taco since the 90s
That little old Toyota in a trd model v6 with the rear diff locker and manual transmission and decent tires/lift will go through anything. If you can find one, buy it.
“What in the name of Tarnation... I tell you hwhaat” Tommy is a 1700 southern cowboy reincarnated
Yes Sir -Tommy
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Mine is a '02 Tacoma PreRunner Double Cab 2.7 liter with over 416K miles on her and she runs like a champ after a rebuild of the engine. A free truck with a little bit of work and TLC can go a long way and run on forever.
Went trailing with a buddy who had just bought an 02 tacoma stock with 4wd on street tires. In Arizona he made it through chiva falls which is pretty challenging trail normally you'd want a lift and 33's at least. He kept up with my lifted cherokee rock crawler build no problem. These lil older trucks are extremely capable from factory with 4x4.
Im probably going to get rid of my gen 3 for a gen 1. As a young guy, the 1,000/ month isnt worth when i can do the same with another tacoma for half the monthly expendature.
you won’t regret it
having owned both, I will take the 02
Subscribed ! Love your content , keep up the videos like this , it’s great to see real real world applications of practical off road situations. I’d personally take the TRD OFF ROAD just because my old body needs a a little pampering these days with the added features and benefits of the newer technology, but I gotta say , I was impressed with the performance of the old school Taco ! It takes my mains back to a time when life was just simpler and I had a lot more fun especially four wheeling with my buddies. I used to be a keep guy , had a 77’ CJ7 Golden Eagle with a 304 , Black Jack Headers , Thrush Sonic Turbo mufflers and a set of Super Swamper 33” tires , low range transfer case , that thing would crawl through anything , but it was a ROUGH riding bumpity ass thing to drive as a daily driver .
I’ve never had Toyota but I’m seriously considering one of these new TRD Off Road / maybe the Pro … just waiting to see the next gen possibility of Tacos … I’m hearing 2023 a new model ?
Baby Yota makes me want one now! lol I bet it would look really good with some TRD PRO wheels on it too! Thanks for the great videos TFL!
Finally let Andre out of a parking lot? Great video! Now keep them coming!
I think a video comparing a first generation Toyota Tundra and a third generation Tacoma would be awesome. Those trucks are roughly the same size
I think that old school Tacoma styling is just timeless. I’m not even a Toyota guy it’s just… got something going for it.
I would love to see what the outcome would be if both Tacomas had the same tires and go the same speed. With enough speed a 2wd truck would make it up that hill but that mud pit is a different beast.
The Baby Yota is a billy goat off road. Just seemed to climb everywhere!
Awesome video. Had a 1st gen and now own a 3rd gen. Both of these are good looking trucks and did great.
Also, those Michelin’s are pretty good for what they are. Good wear for an AT, great in snow, and decent off-road. The 1st gen Tacoma looks great with them.
Great video TFL! Gotta love the hat Andre!!!lol surprised at the end with baby Yota’s accomplishments!!! Baby Yota shows to be a good bang for the buck!!
1st, 2nd, and 3rd gen off road challenge!!
The median household income in Colorado in 2002 was $48,294
The MSRP in 2002 of a base 4x4 Tacoma regular cab was $16,310
Thats 33.8% of your yearly income
The median household income in Colorado in 2019 was $72,499
The MSRP in 2019 of a Tacoma TRD pro v6 double cab was $42,960
Thats 59.3% of your yearly income
For when the elders tell you they had it harder than you.
God help you if your a factory family in today's market.
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Vehicle pricing came from
www.autoblog.com/toyota/tacoma/
Yeah, when you run numbers like that it's scary. Where I live in the Northeast, the median home price is 612K, and the median income is 65K. Doesn't work out very well for most people. I'm comfortably renting right now, but when it comes time to buy a home, I'm probably going to need to leave my job and this whole region.
@@trailrunnah8886 my father bought a 12 year old house, one of the first manufactured homes from the late 60s/early 70s, on 2.5 acres in 1982 for $34,000.
The real estate agents got ahold of it last year and put it up for $130,000.
Land is commonly $10,000 an acre here, so that's $26,000 for the land.
Imagine paying $100,000 for a 50 year old double wide trailer.
This is a very disheartening time to be in the formative years of your life.
Msrp of my 04 Tacoma was 24k. It was an xtra cab but did have a couple options. 2.7l motor, auto trans, 4x4. Had sr5 package, cruise control, power windows, mirrors and door locks. Pretty pricey back then.
The clutch cancel switch has been in manual Toyota pickups for years my 1991 sr5 has it.
And it’s to crawl in gear using the starter, not to just start the truck in neutral without using the clutch.
@@cney2125 I have a '12 had it for two years, haven't used the clutch cancel it to crawl yet, only to start without being in it 🤣
I'm loving the Toyota a lot it's just perfect
Nothing wrong with the old school rig. Surprised at how well it performed, considering no rear locker and an automatic. Actually, well driven; picking the right lines, great adjustments, well timed acceleration points etc. Loved the manual trans and 4.30 gearing in the new boy, and that lunar rock, ROCKS. PLUS it has that rear locker. So GLAD I have a 2022 Lunar Rock TRD OFF ROAD scheduled to be delivered next month (with a manual trans). Had the money so why not? But if I didn't have the money, the older models would be perfectly fine as you just showed. Really good video!!
Lunar rock looks like primer paint lol.
First time I see a 02 tacoma doing "4x4" without hitting the rev limiter. Some people don't get it haha.
Thing is peak HP is like 4500rpm so hitting redline isnt even a benefit
@@TheCarpenterUnion is it really?
@@LilTaco777 yep just double checked, it's 4800. Peak torque at 3600
@@TheCarpenterUnion thanks! I’ve noticed it’s not like my other vehicles where it’s east to redline. I have 186,000 miles on my 3.4 L ‘02 Tacoma
@@LilTaco777 ya, it's due to the long intake plenum and cam profiles they stuck in these. It's pretty unfortunate actually imo.. I'd gladly trade a little less torque for a more satisfying top end
Tacoma is a great truck. Spray the hell out of the frame and keep it as clean as you can and it will not rust out. The rest is pretty well dead reliable and a great off road truck. It will be more civilized to drive than the JEEP on road.
Other then u sit on the floor in the tacoma lol wish they would fix that already.
I have a 2002 Tacoma TRD, V6 with 4 doors. I am the 2nd owner. It was my dads truck until about 3 years ago. My Tacoma takes me wherever I want to go, AND it didn't cost me 60,000 dollars.
Lockers are great as they will obviously help with traction and reduce damage to the track by reducing wheel spin. However, open diffs will make you a better driver. When I started driving 4 wheel drive machines over 40 years ago traction aided devices were very few. Also, even though the Michelin LTX is not an aggressive tire by any stretch of the imagination, they have performed very well and never let me down or failed to get me through any 4wd track that I have been on here in Colorado.
I love that baby Yoda! All that thing needs is a rear locker and good tires, and that'll be a super capable little trail truck.
Anyone else notice the 2021 take a different path @10:00 ?
WTF TFL?! Underestimating your audiences intelligence
Man that was cool! I’d love to see Baby Yoda with a locking rear diff.
Dig the welder out
I’m not the biggest fan of trucks, I drive a small hatchback, but I really like the first gen Tacoma and would love to get one some day to take camping and off-roading!
I prefer the older Tacoma’s less sensors. Many 90s and 00s Tacoma’s are still on the road and trails today.
Ya those things are unkillable they outlast there owners
I just bought an 04 Tacoma TRD OR 4x4. Has 137k miles. I can’t wait to take it out and see what’s it capable of!
Would like to see an updated one "NEW-OLD-OLDER!"
only because I'm still driving my 80's Toyota 4×4 pickup truck!🤠
Good to hear that! Do you daily drive your 80's tacoma? I am looking for a kinda old school trucks for now. For road trip, daily drive with manual tranny. Thanks
I run a 2003 Taco X-Cab with the V6. 459 000 kilometers on the clock, reframed by Toyota in 2011, top to bottom body job last year including new front fenders, hood, rear bumper, and rust-free bed from Florida. Also replaced last year: oxygen sensors 1 and 2, upper and lower ball joints, both sides, calipers and rotors both sides, rear drums and drum kits both sides, timing belt, water pump, evap canister, fuel pump, power steering pump, rack and alternator.
All that for much less than a year's payments on that 2021 TRD, and it doesn't burn a drop of oil. I plan to keep driving it until Toyota comes to their senses and returns to manufacturing true quarter-ton trucks.
My 1994 toyota pickup has that clutch start cancel button as well pretty cool
2003 taco with 350,000+ miles and its still going plenty strong
I'd like to see a TRD PRO vs Trail Boss comparison off road
Guys the Trail Boss will have its water pump bust at 131,000.
TOYOTA GANG ALL DAY
I miss these videos!! This is what made me subscribe. That Jeep barely made it.
Awesome vid!! I have a '19 Taco DCSB, this thing off road is awesome. With the rear locker it climb pretty much everything!
Now that’s off road Fun!!!
Excellent Video.
HA! It's not cheating, it's called adapting to your environment. Well done guys, great stuff.
Love my 1st gen extended cab . 4wd . Got stuck a few times but manage to get out with 0 recovery gear.
Don’t remember seeing it in the video but the “Clutch start” button should be used while in 1st so when you turn on your taco, it starts rolling foward. Meant to be used when your truck turns off on a steep hill and you don’t want to roll down :)
Nice comparo for us Taco Fanboys. I love them all, but have a 2011 TRD Off Road Double cab, and I don't do anything crazy off road. I live near Assateague Island National Seashore OSV and get on the beach often. I have the Michelin LTX II tires, yes, because I mainly drive on the highway. It is a beast on the OSV. Been to Delaware National Seashore parks, and also to Corolla NC. And up to Carova without ever an issue.
My 2nd gen Taco isn't much fancier than this 1st gen lol, love it though. Was a good compromise between the 2
another awesome video! Taco Life!
Hey I have the 2003 4×4 Tacoma TRD. I'm happy!
47k for Tacoma and 55k for Gladiator is nuts...both are nice vehicles though just way overpriced
Who pays sticker price? 🤔... got my Pro for much less and it is also a manual. My father was able to get an excellent deal on his Rubicon as well.
iirc there was an option to get a locking rear diff on 1st Gen models, but don't plan on being able to find one, but if you do they're usually upwards of 8 grand.
The TRD Off Roads have the Factory Rear Electronic Locker
The clutch cancel is actually so you can crawl the truck with the starter motor in 4L. I think the manual is key. I have a 2nd gen std cab 4banger 4x4 SR...not even a 5. LOL. But in 4L, it goes pretty much anywhere I need it to go without lockers. That said, a rear locker is on the "to do" list.
The last time I was on this trail there was a car full of CU chicks off roading a Prius, not joking.
Old Man Emu 2 inch lift, 285's. ARB rear air locker. LC Engineering low boost 4.5 lbs supercharger. Easy cheap and will kick butt. Love my 2000 4runner with the same gear.
Can’t beat the old Yota. Mine 2004 sr5 TRD double cab still running like a champ.
The 6-speed manual can handle most anything. Great video guys.
I gotta say, nice driving at the end in the "Baby Yota". I always wondered if you could get through a particularly difficult mud hole by going around the edge like that. Its something I will have to tuck away for the next time I am off roading.
Baby Yota is perfect. Don't change tore size. Get some Ko2s or wild peaks (the LTXs are very good Gore's, just pricey).
Andre, Tommy didn't cheat, that's called using what you have. Lol.
now what we really need is a toyota pickup with the straight axle vs the trd pro
Great video. Still loving the Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro with the manual transmission.
My 2000 trd has the clutch start cancel, and the rear locker as well
Andre, that explanation of clutch start cancel was not very good. Awesome video guys!
That explanation was non-existent, I'd say!
It's made to be started IN gear on a hill or at an obstacle. Oh well.... 🤷🏼♂️
I don't think we need that much. Isn't just an option to not having to press the clutch when starting up? Lol
No I think he's never driven a manual gearbox before because they always start in neutral it's when you're not in neutral you have to press on the clutch I think they're feature is so that if you stall out upperhill you don't have to mess around with the brakes they knew Americans wouldn't know how to drive a manual well some of them I will admit that is a neat feature
@@jowarrior oh if something was wrong and it wouldn't start back up
You guys should do this with the New Chevy Colorado ZR2 and the old S10 ZR2!
These two always seem to have fun when they do videos together.
Nice Tommy! On that last hole. Baby Yoda rocks.
Love the old Vs. new videos
Great vid, I thought the new TACO was going to try Without the Lockers for a proper test :( on the hard part
Man, I had a 2003 TRD Tacoma with 300k miles, no issues and ran perfect. sold it for 9k with 300k miles and I'll tell ya now, biggest regret of my life haha best truck I ever had!
I may be wrong but I believe the clutch start cancel feature is engaged to get you out of the slippery area. Put in gear in the starter will ride the system to move you slower than trying to ride the clutch. I think?
my old 1991 4Runner SR5 had clutch cancel...
I've never had a tacoma without a rear locker and a V6, but for less than a new set of tires you can throw in a rear locker and that old taco will run up anything!
Just picked up a gen1 95 extracab v6 4wd (no locking dif) 285k for $2,200, super excited to get it on the beach!
I bought a 2000 tundra. I like it a lot. So far so good. It needs an lsd or locker though. The bad part is I’m getting 13 mpg average:(.