The New Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro Kicks Butt Off-Road, But Is The Old Taco Even Better?
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- The 2021 Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro represents the brand's most off-road worthy truck currently on sale, but can you get a surprisingly capable rig for much less? In this video, we compare our 20-year-old, regular cab Tacoma against the brand new TRD Pro (with a manual transmission, no less!)
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Most fun video in a while, nice work guys
Thank you for watching!
@@TFLoffroad that 1st gen tacoma,here in aus,is a 100 series,with a tub,we never got the tub version,so theres a huge industry here cutting the backs off them..to fit camper trays..go find yourself a s/duty,2002,4.2tdi,cab chassis.german MWM diesel,built in brazil..better than your 7.3.nearly..
@@TFLoffroad SR5,in aus,was a hilux..
@@TFLoffroad 111
It isn't cheating if you know how to drive lol 😂😂
The part at the end where Tommy takes the old Tacoma around the hole was priceless. I thought it was stuck for sure. Great video.
I laughed my ass off
Smart driving is not "cheating". :^)
Ye i started laughing then oh oh ooohhhhhh!
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I was caught off guard 😂😂 but that little truck is a beast
I have an '02 model, currently at 275,000 miles and just replaced the factory clutch. it's been the best, most reliable vehicle I've ever owned hands down.
How much did that cost you?
I have an 02 Double Cab 4x4 that I bought brand new. I love it. I'm approaching 419,000.
@@evanjanse4038 I have a 2003 4 door, trd, 4x4 bought new with 144,000 miles
Same mine has 574 329 miles original 5 speed trans and engine . never been rebuilt runs great . Toyota... This Old Yota Outlast Them All
I got a 2001 taco single cab with 48,000 on her. Pretty sure I’m just breaking her in 🤣
I would love to see a video with a first gen Tundra vs new Tacoma. They’re about the same size.
I miss the smaller style Tacoma’s
And rangers back in the 90s early 2000s
@@tdel8613 they were tiny and old/classic all the way until 2012.
@@austinreed347 yeah they just got too expensive by then.
@@tdel8613 by know they would be great used trucks
Yup! I tell myself if i dont end up buying a full size truck and get a bronco/wrangler, id def pick up a little ranger for hauling and house projects.
That old taco is pretty perfect. I would keep the tire size but go to an aggressive tread, and then add a selectable rear locker.
The rear locker would help a lot.
Absolutely agree. I'd take the old vs the new.
@@tyrelsimpson152 I think with a manual transmission and a rear locker the baby yota can go places. I just wished it was dual cab.
@@rampagedingo IMO I’d spend money first on a front auto locker before a selectable rear.
@@rampagedingo I've got a 99 5 speed 3.4 on 35's, 4.88 gearing, front and rear locker and that thing can go places!
I must agree with Tommy on this one. That little tácito is well worth the money.
Yep I was rooting for that Little Taco, or Taquito in Español 😂😆
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Man that baby yota is so nice, i loved my 2007 single cab 4wd tacoma with the 2.7, still regret selling it, it was so agile off road and was great on gas. Truck was incredibly reliable had no problems in the 6 years i owned it and i beat on it pretty good too
Would you recommend getting the v6 4wd or is it not as reliable?
I'm a GM guy and I don't think I've ever cheered for a truck more than I did for baby yota.
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Funny enough I think that truck was a joint venture between Toyota and GM
Installing a lockright lockers is so easy and cheap on the old Tacoma
Some ARB lockers and that 02 Taco would be a monster.
The first gen Tacoma’s are probably one of the best trucks ever made. I know several of them that have 300k+ miles on them and they’re still on the road and running great. Plus they’ll go just about anywhere you want them to with the right tires under them.
@Joshua Awesome!! That’s one more I know of then!!👌🏽
@@CPMUNSEY 1994 2wd 4cly 320,000. love this thing, hopefully keeping forever, especially considering gas prices haha
Mine is a '02 Tacoma PreRunner Double Cab 2.7 liter with over 416K miles on her and she runs like a champ after a rebuild of the engine. A free truck with a little bit of work and TLC can go a long way and run on forever.
@@hardcorerebel620 That’s awesome! When did you have to have the factory engine rebuilt?
Put some Falken Wildpeak AT3W tires on the old taco!
Best tires
Duratracs all day
NASCAR slicks, so it will get up that hill faster!
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Nitto ridge grapplers
First gen will always be the king Tacoma. It set the standard for every generation that came after it. I wish they'd come out with a small Taco again.
I have a 3rd Gen and I LOVE it. It’s so good off road. Tires make such a big difference though. I bet that 1st Gen will improve a lot with more aggressive tires and mild lift.
Awesome video. Really enjoyed this one.
Andre, let me explain the "clutch start cancel (CSC)" feature; its been there on Manual transmission FJ cruisers since they came out in 2007 model year. If you stall the engine for any reason on an steep slope, pressing the clutch to start the engine will cause it to roll back, which means you have to use the brake, when you really need to use the gas pedal to give it enough power to move. In order to keep your right foot on the gas pedal, ready once the engine starts again, you leave the car in gear (Low range 1st (preferred), maybe 2nd). Now you press the CSC button and crank the engine. The low gearing allows the starter to spin the engine and start it (in gear) without touching the gas, and without declutching (obviously). You don't need to be in neutral to do this like you were, and on level ground. Once the engine starts, you keep moving forward immediately using the gas pedal where your right foot is ready to go. If you are an expert with the pedals, you can do without the CSC, though there will be a little more drama depending on the amount of slope. This comes in handy on rocky slopes where you might stall frequently, and is a good trick to scare a salesman on a test drive. I did this on the FJ on a icy slope on a test drive and the salesman was really beside himself before he realized what I did.
I never knew this was a real feature on any vehicle. Had to do this while transporting a buddies b2000 when the clutch master cylinder failed. Just left it in gear and turned it off when coming up to a stop light, then crank it up when it was time to go and had to be on point with the shifts to not grind. We just made it where we were going before the battery started to drain and the starter was probably hot. I thought I was pretty clever, but I guess not hahaha
Our 02 Tacoma 2.4liter 5 speed manual 2wd has only needed an ac compressor lower ball joints a couple o2 sensors and exhaust repairs in 293k miles.
Would like to see an updated one "NEW-OLD-OLDER!"
only because I'm still driving my 80's Toyota 4×4 pickup truck!🤠
Good to hear that! Do you daily drive your 80's tacoma? I am looking for a kinda old school trucks for now. For road trip, daily drive with manual tranny. Thanks
FYI Andre, the clutch start cancel, is not so you can do neat tricks, like starting without pushing the clutch, and impressing your friends. The clutch start cancel, is so you can start in gear, while on a hill, and not roll backwards, like you would if you had to push in the clutch. I'm guessing the old manual tacos have the same button, although it might be called 'Hill start assist", like my 89 toy.
I think a video comparing a first generation Toyota Tundra and a third generation Tacoma would be awesome. Those trucks are roughly the same size
I'm loving the Toyota a lot it's just perfect
“What in the name of Tarnation... I tell you hwhaat” Tommy is a 1700 southern cowboy reincarnated
Yes Sir -Tommy
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I loved my short cab 1996 Tacoma with 5spd 4 cylinder. I wish I would have kept it. Add a rear selectable locker and I am pretty sure the old Taco will keep up with the new one.
One of the better videos in recent memory.
The Baby Yota is a billy goat off road. Just seemed to climb everywhere!
I think that old school Tacoma styling is just timeless. I’m not even a Toyota guy it’s just… got something going for it.
I would love to see what the outcome would be if both Tacomas had the same tires and go the same speed. With enough speed a 2wd truck would make it up that hill but that mud pit is a different beast.
Great review! Thank you gentleman! Having owned a 1998 TRD Off Road Supercharged 5sp manual and now a 2019 TRD Off Road 6sp manual... I miss the old one for its nostalgia and simplicity. However the new one is on another level. Both required suspension upgrades to fully shine. Sold the 98 for $11,500 bought the 19 for $34,500. Have put 10k in parts into it, its way better than a TRD PRO and still cost less out the door. Either way these vehicle provide years of trusty service and hold their value.
whats a good site you recommend to buy the suspension upgrades?
Dudes loving the clutch cancel that's been on the taco since the 90s
First time I see a 02 tacoma doing "4x4" without hitting the rev limiter. Some people don't get it haha.
Thing is peak HP is like 4500rpm so hitting redline isnt even a benefit
@@TheCarpenterUnion is it really?
@@LilTaco777 yep just double checked, it's 4800. Peak torque at 3600
@@TheCarpenterUnion thanks! I’ve noticed it’s not like my other vehicles where it’s east to redline. I have 186,000 miles on my 3.4 L ‘02 Tacoma
@@LilTaco777 ya, it's due to the long intake plenum and cam profiles they stuck in these. It's pretty unfortunate actually imo.. I'd gladly trade a little less torque for a more satisfying top end
1st, 2nd, and 3rd gen off road challenge!!
I prefer the older Tacoma’s less sensors. Many 90s and 00s Tacoma’s are still on the road and trails today.
Ya those things are unkillable they outlast there owners
You guys have the best jobs ever. I never have that much fun at work.
I love that baby Yoda! All that thing needs is a rear locker and good tires, and that'll be a super capable little trail truck.
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The median household income in Colorado in 2002 was $48,294
The MSRP in 2002 of a base 4x4 Tacoma regular cab was $16,310
Thats 33.8% of your yearly income
The median household income in Colorado in 2019 was $72,499
The MSRP in 2019 of a Tacoma TRD pro v6 double cab was $42,960
Thats 59.3% of your yearly income
For when the elders tell you they had it harder than you.
God help you if your a factory family in today's market.
Household income stats came from
www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/income-poverty/historical-income-households.html
Vehicle pricing came from
www.autoblog.com/toyota/tacoma/
Yeah, when you run numbers like that it's scary. Where I live in the Northeast, the median home price is 612K, and the median income is 65K. Doesn't work out very well for most people. I'm comfortably renting right now, but when it comes time to buy a home, I'm probably going to need to leave my job and this whole region.
@@trailrunnah8886 my father bought a 12 year old house, one of the first manufactured homes from the late 60s/early 70s, on 2.5 acres in 1982 for $34,000.
The real estate agents got ahold of it last year and put it up for $130,000.
Land is commonly $10,000 an acre here, so that's $26,000 for the land.
Imagine paying $100,000 for a 50 year old double wide trailer.
This is a very disheartening time to be in the formative years of your life.
Msrp of my 04 Tacoma was 24k. It was an xtra cab but did have a couple options. 2.7l motor, auto trans, 4x4. Had sr5 package, cruise control, power windows, mirrors and door locks. Pretty pricey back then.
I JUST GOT MY BRAND NEW 2022 4X4 OFFROAD TACO MOONROCK AND I LOVE IT...THIS IS MY #6 TACO
I feel sorry for you.
I'd like to see a TRD PRO vs Trail Boss comparison off road
Mine is a '02 Tacoma PreRunner Double Cab 2.7 liter with over 416K miles on her and she runs like a champ after a rebuild of the engine. A free truck with a little bit of work and TLC can go a long way and run on forever.
Finally let Andre out of a parking lot? Great video! Now keep them coming!
Baby Yota makes me want one now! lol I bet it would look really good with some TRD PRO wheels on it too! Thanks for the great videos TFL!
Went trailing with a buddy who had just bought an 02 tacoma stock with 4wd on street tires. In Arizona he made it through chiva falls which is pretty challenging trail normally you'd want a lift and 33's at least. He kept up with my lifted cherokee rock crawler build no problem. These lil older trucks are extremely capable from factory with 4x4.
I know the camera never does a trail justice but I can't help but see this and think my XJ with a rear LSD would do this without any trouble at all.
Probably destroy it, a Buick could have done most of this. They seriously neglected tire pressure too.
now what we really need is a toyota pickup with the straight axle vs the trd pro
Subscribed ! Love your content , keep up the videos like this , it’s great to see real real world applications of practical off road situations. I’d personally take the TRD OFF ROAD just because my old body needs a a little pampering these days with the added features and benefits of the newer technology, but I gotta say , I was impressed with the performance of the old school Taco ! It takes my mains back to a time when life was just simpler and I had a lot more fun especially four wheeling with my buddies. I used to be a keep guy , had a 77’ CJ7 Golden Eagle with a 304 , Black Jack Headers , Thrush Sonic Turbo mufflers and a set of Super Swamper 33” tires , low range transfer case , that thing would crawl through anything , but it was a ROUGH riding bumpity ass thing to drive as a daily driver .
I’ve never had Toyota but I’m seriously considering one of these new TRD Off Road / maybe the Pro … just waiting to see the next gen possibility of Tacos … I’m hearing 2023 a new model ?
That little old Toyota in a trd model v6 with the rear diff locker and manual transmission and decent tires/lift will go through anything. If you can find one, buy it.
That was highly entertaining to see baby Yoda hit all those trails. Its like the underdog in a fight that your rooting for. Its just too bad Toyota doesn't make smaller trucks anymore and all their SUVS and truckS have became land barges.
I have a 2002 Tacoma TRD, V6 with 4 doors. I am the 2nd owner. It was my dads truck until about 3 years ago. My Tacoma takes me wherever I want to go, AND it didn't cost me 60,000 dollars.
Hey I have the 2003 4×4 Tacoma TRD. I'm happy!
I like less technology but the atrac system is cool
I just bought an 04 Tacoma TRD OR 4x4. Has 137k miles. I can’t wait to take it out and see what’s it capable of!
God damn this trd pro tacoma looks so damn good!!!
I run a 2003 Taco X-Cab with the V6. 459 000 kilometers on the clock, reframed by Toyota in 2011, top to bottom body job last year including new front fenders, hood, rear bumper, and rust-free bed from Florida. Also replaced last year: oxygen sensors 1 and 2, upper and lower ball joints, both sides, calipers and rotors both sides, rear drums and drum kits both sides, timing belt, water pump, evap canister, fuel pump, power steering pump, rack and alternator.
All that for much less than a year's payments on that 2021 TRD, and it doesn't burn a drop of oil. I plan to keep driving it until Toyota comes to their senses and returns to manufacturing true quarter-ton trucks.
My 1994 toyota pickup has that clutch start cancel button as well pretty cool
I've never had a tacoma without a rear locker and a V6, but for less than a new set of tires you can throw in a rear locker and that old taco will run up anything!
Proud owner of a 04 supercharged 4wd and it’s the best truck I’ve owned🤗 can’t be beat
These two always seem to have fun when they do videos together.
Andre, that explanation of clutch start cancel was not very good. Awesome video guys!
That explanation was non-existent, I'd say!
It's made to be started IN gear on a hill or at an obstacle. Oh well.... 🤷🏼♂️
I don't think we need that much. Isn't just an option to not having to press the clutch when starting up? Lol
No I think he's never driven a manual gearbox before because they always start in neutral it's when you're not in neutral you have to press on the clutch I think they're feature is so that if you stall out upperhill you don't have to mess around with the brakes they knew Americans wouldn't know how to drive a manual well some of them I will admit that is a neat feature
@@jowarrior oh if something was wrong and it wouldn't start back up
I would love to get Tacoma, but since is built for Smurfs only I can't.
I agree about the horrible access and seating position on Tacos. Gen II and Gen III have tiny door openings and vertically challenged cab space. I am 5’9” and I have to assume a yoga pose to get in the GenII.
Was down at my local Toyota dealer and sat in a new Taco (the automatic one) and didn’t come close to fitting - I am too tall. Oh well, they didn’t have any 6MT Taco Pro’s anyways...
6'5" here, and somehow I fit just fine in my '20 TRD OR, with a sunroof no less. 🤷♂️
I'm 6 ft 210lbs and it works for me, 2018 was uncomfortable but 2020 new seat without sunroof is fine
Boohoo
Baby Yota is perfect. Don't change tore size. Get some Ko2s or wild peaks (the LTXs are very good Gore's, just pricey).
Andre, Tommy didn't cheat, that's called using what you have. Lol.
The clutch cancel is actually so you can crawl the truck with the starter motor in 4L. I think the manual is key. I have a 2nd gen std cab 4banger 4x4 SR...not even a 5. LOL. But in 4L, it goes pretty much anywhere I need it to go without lockers. That said, a rear locker is on the "to do" list.
I miss these videos!! This is what made me subscribe. That Jeep barely made it.
Great video TFL! Gotta love the hat Andre!!!lol surprised at the end with baby Yota’s accomplishments!!! Baby Yota shows to be a good bang for the buck!!
Don’t remember seeing it in the video but the “Clutch start” button should be used while in 1st so when you turn on your taco, it starts rolling foward. Meant to be used when your truck turns off on a steep hill and you don’t want to roll down :)
If you break the old one you’re out $10,000 the new one you’re out $50,000.
Guys the Trail Boss will have its water pump bust at 131,000.
TOYOTA GANG ALL DAY
The 6-speed manual can handle most anything. Great video guys.
Can’t beat the old Yota. Mine 2004 sr5 TRD double cab still running like a champ.
as a third gen 4runner owner I apreciate the comparison but If you're gonna do top of the line new then use top of the line old too
Love my 1st gen extended cab . 4wd . Got stuck a few times but manage to get out with 0 recovery gear.
I love my 98 Tacoma. Never let me down
I was hoping Toyota offered the 6spd manual with a 6ft bed, you can only get the 5ft bed with a manual.
Sport Access Cab Manual has a 6 foot bed.
@@Shakerhood69 i would want/need a 4 door truck not access cab.
I bought a 2000 tundra. I like it a lot. So far so good. It needs an lsd or locker though. The bad part is I’m getting 13 mpg average:(.
*Transfercase engagement should be a real lever.
*Selectable lockers is awesome.
*Tons of electronic drivers aids is not awesome...
*Adjust the frame rate on the cameras when filming LED lights make for professional videos 😉
I may be wrong but I believe the clutch start cancel feature is engaged to get you out of the slippery area. Put in gear in the starter will ride the system to move you slower than trying to ride the clutch. I think?
Feel like they should have gone with a 6cyl 1st Gen. My 00 is 6cyl and has the rear e locker and def won’t sell it.
Awesome vid!! I have a '19 Taco DCSB, this thing off road is awesome. With the rear locker it climb pretty much everything!
47k for Tacoma and 55k for Gladiator is nuts...both are nice vehicles though just way overpriced
Who pays sticker price? 🤔... got my Pro for much less and it is also a manual. My father was able to get an excellent deal on his Rubicon as well.
Toyota just continues to outdo themselves. They represent what every company should aspire to be.
I love Tacomas 😍❤️. I will take both of them
Doesn't matter how you get up or over an obstacle, just as long as u get up and over with the rubber side down and in one piece.
I like how tommy encourages the yota and tells it that its a good truck haha
I can't believe that is a 4 cylinder 4x4! That's so awesome. I wish they could make more of them
You can still get one. Access cab 4x4 4 cyl. Same engine as that one.
Great vid, I thought the new TACO was going to try Without the Lockers for a proper test :( on the hard part
Nice Tommy! On that last hole. Baby Yoda rocks.
Those are great tires! I have a pair on my 02 Silverado! Great both on the road and off the road with my experience. Surprisingly quiet on road which is nice.
I'm thinking about getting a 4x4 for off-road fun. With Toyota's track record for reliability, a Tacoma is my first option.
Off road with all season tires... I would like to see some real off road worthy tires and maybe a locker
This just proves to me that Toyota Tacomas are pretty much the best off road capable truck (not counting whatever class the raptor and TRX falls under) you can get, both old and new. I've gone up some pretty steep hills in my 2000 prerunner trim long travel taco and that is 2wd
Tommy said tarnation 😄. Anyhow, awesome episode of old vs. new, Tommy, thank you for bringing the funny as you do very well.
I gotta say, nice driving at the end in the "Baby Yota". I always wondered if you could get through a particularly difficult mud hole by going around the edge like that. Its something I will have to tuck away for the next time I am off roading.
I'm still on the fence about the manual/auto on the new Taco. I hope these guys do a recap when they turn it back in and say whether or not they still prefer the manual
I have both get the manual
Try going up the easier side with just the locker on, in 2WD ;) Great video, This was something I didn't know I needed :)
You can only use the locker in 4lo i believe. 2wd and 4hi it wont engage.
@@trukbones1672 you can use the locker in 2wd. I have the trd off road with the 6 speed manual.
@@90FirstGenPGT thanks for letting me know. I also have a 2020 trd pro manual. Ill be sure to remember this.
@@trukbones1672 yeah give it a try when you get a chance :) it works really well. I've gone up a really sandy hill similar to the one in this video, and made it just by engaging the locker. attempted the hill in 2wd open diff, made it half way, then switched on the locker and tried it again mid hill and was able to push the rest of the way.
@@90FirstGenPGT is there a trick to engage it? I was stopped on a bit of ice a half hour ago, pushed the button and the dash had the red diff icon flash and beep twice then it turned off
Simplicity and reliability are why Americans fell in love with Japanese pickups.
I really like when you compare old vs new. I'm curious to see same video between old Ranger vs new.
The old school. I wish I could find one just like it.
7 grand??? jesus thats a steal compared to the prices here in socal.
Any plans in putting a rear locker and better tire on the 02?
You guys should do these tests w payloads. Older models are lighter, so they can compete. But curious how the smaller engines perform when carrying full payload.
The BY build needs a lift, bigger and more aggressive tires, and a rear locker. Save on the budget by keeping the current wheels. The homemade rear storage was a good budget choice.
Which one would you want in a CRASH TEST
that old tacoma has one of the BEST ENGINES EVER MADE. those 4 cylinder engines seem to go forever. and the 3rd Gen cost 4x more!!