IRONMAN SUSPENSION LIFT ON NEXT GEN RANGER. Is It Any Good?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2023
- Mark's V6 Next Gen Ford Ranger gets finally gets it's new suspension and what a difference!
This video is not sponsored, with all products and the install paid for by Mark.
In this video, Mark and Shaun from 4x4 Extras take you through the install and Mark provides his rationale for selecting the new suspension.
You'll also get the see the new suspension tested both on and off-road.
Products installed:
FRONT:
Springs: FOR010C
LOAD 80-120KG. EST LIFT 50mm
Shocks: 24885FE
FOAM CELL STRUT PERFORMANCE
REAR:
Leaf Springs: FOR012B
MEDIUM EST. LIFT 45mm | ADD LOAD 0-300KG
Shocks: 24886FE
FOAM CELL STRUT PERFORMANCE
You will also need the strut trim packer (HILFR05F), Rear Polyurethane Spring Bush kit (1193UK), and Centre Bearing Spacer Kit (1223K).
More information:
If you're based in Perth, contact Shaun at 4x4 Extras in Wangara via 4x4extras.com.au or call (08) 6364 0584.
You can also view Ironman products at ironman4x4.com.au
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Great step by step review and excellent impartial advice for the enthusiast.
Thanks. Hopefully helps a few people weighing up options
About time mate! Looks good👍
Thanks mate 👌
Great video as usual Mark👍Shaun's awesome to deal with, I'd 100% recommend 4x4 Extras in Wangara👍
Thanks so much 😊 Yes agree, the whole crew are great 👍
Great video as always. hopefully no more rear damage
Thanks mate. Haha yes indeed. Keen to tackle some technical tracks and see how it goes on the lift
Have this suspension on my paj sport, springs ended up sagging pretty badly after a couple of months so where replaced under warranty no hassles, got a little spaced put in to account for any further sag and 2 years later still happy 👌🏼
G’day mate. Been a long time. Hope you’re keeping well. Glad it worked out for you in the end 👍 As I’ve gone with the C spring (front) hopefully they hold up well long term.
Great vid,thanks what wheel and tyre combo are you running
love the look of your snorkel where did it come from>
Hey mate. ROH Vapour rims 17x8 (+30 offset) and tyres are Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT - 285 70 17. Snorkel is Vikor Industries 4” stainless. Link to video here - th-cam.com/video/NdeORnhB49o/w-d-xo.html
Another great video. Did you leave the stock upper control arms or get the Ironman ProForge?
Thanks! Stock for now. Alignment has been good
Awesome and In-Depth review , I just got a Ironman 2inch lift but awaiting Upper Control Arms to come in stock, with your wheel and tyre size, did you end up getting Upper Control Arms ? If not have you had any issues running the standard Ford Upper Control Arms ?
Cheers
Thanks. No issues whatsoever with wheel alignment with the standard upper control arms 👍
the Ranger looks great with the lift, Ironman make awesome gear
Thanks mate. Really happy with it
Great video as usual. I’m getting a Platinum in a month or so. I do 4-6 week trip towing my 2.3t (200kg ballweight) a few times a year.
Can I just get the new 300kg rear springs as you have or should I go airbags? I don’t do any off-road stuff. Would I also have to change the rear shockers?
Thanks for the vids and all the best for you and your family
If you fit the 0 to 300kg rears this will raise the back by 2 inches. Would increase the rake too much. Longer shocks would also be recommended, a lighter pack would raise rear 40mm. If you don't plan on adding much weight then rear assist would be a good option. Air bags, load plus helpers. If you have some weight constant then adding another leaf to your factory pack would also be a good option.
What he said ☝️
Thanks for the feedback on the video 😊
I did a 30 lift on my landcruiser and blew both CV,s in the first week. Had to drop the diff and fit new torsion bars, new CV,s etc. Hope this doesn’t happen to you. Being a bit spooked by that I have fitted polyair airbags to my Next Gen Ranger. They are blue tooth controlled and automatic to a degree. So far awesome towing, I can adjust as I drive.
Yikes 😬 That would spook me too mate.. For this one, the lift is pretty moderate and Cv angle looks ok, so not expecting any issues (touch 🪵). Ran very similar lift in my Pajero Sport and it lived a tough life 😂
Bluetooth airbags sound cool
Mark, I have the same car and am looking at the same suspension mod and tow a 2.7 ton caravan. Can you do a video on how it tows with the Ironman suspension please?
G’day Mal. Can certainly touch on the towing on an upcoming trip.
In case you’re looking to purchase soon, yes I’m very happy with the towing performance. 0-300kg rear springs should be good based on your weight above if you don’t have too much weight in the tray. If unsure, reach out to Shaun at 4x4 extras and he can help to talk you though all the options.
I’ve found towing is very smooth on the suspension, not bouncy and now I’m off the bump stops towing (compared to this being an issue on the stock suspension).
The only thing I’ve noticed with the Ranger is the towball sits lower than my last 4WD - and as my caravan is running bigger tyres, I was looking for options how to make it sit a bit more level. Airbags isn’t an opinion for me as this is not allowed as part of the engineering process I’ve gone through.
I have since added an ARB rear bar for extra rear protection and the Towbar tongue now actually sits higher than the standard bumper which is a bonus. Your van may be lower and this may not be an issue for you anyway.
Hope that helps in the meantime.
Cheers Mark
Looks like it all works well. How much extra ground clearance/lift did you achieve. Cheers
Hey mate. I’ve measured the overall figures with the engineering process, which I’ll cover off next. Eyebrow measurements after the lift are front 580mm (OEM 545mm) and rear 635mm (OEM 597mm). Obviously the true height gain has been achieved via the bigger tyres
hey mate nice vid, did you end up with any vibrations after the lift? ive had the bp51s installed and the shudder is anoying.
No vibrations mate. That must be annoying and I would definitely take that to ARB and make sure they fix - especially given the expensive price tag. The Ironman one has a centre baring spacer.
I was considering the BP51 suspension. That's disappointing whi h ARB stop did you go to. I had some work done at the one in Welshpool and was less than impressed. I had an air bag system installed and they charged an arm and leg then used cheap quick air connections then it keeps leaking they said that nothing could be done as that's how it is. I fitted some proper brass nuts and olive fittings and had no more problems.
You mentioned the Foam Cell Pro can be a little bit more harder.. for someone who is not going to carry any loads most of the time and travelling on gravel road somewhere 10-20km which range of shocks would u recommend? FC or the FCP...thanks
Unless you’re really doing heavy offroad FC is a good all rounder, compared to the Pro. I do my fair share of off road, towing and also general driving around town and found the FC are great. Sound like a good option for you based on your intended use 👍
@@Perth4WDandCamping is the Pro version gives stiffer ride unladen compare to FC?
Yeah a thicker bore so will be a firmer ride compared to the FC performance or comfort shock
Nice. I believe the 2024 XLT Ranger has a extra 2 inch lift. Am I wrong ?
Believe the only Ranger that comes with upgraded suspension is the Wildtrak X (other than the Raptor)
Just a quick question, I'm going to be running ironman foam cells on my next gen Everest. Did you replace the uca's? There's a bit of mixed info out there, whether you need them or not on a 2 inch lift.
I’ve had no issues with wheel alignment with standard UCAs on a 2” lift and 33s
@@Perth4WDandCamping Awesome, just what I wanted to hear. Cheers for your help.
How is ppf holding up ? Do a ppf update please
It’s been awesome thanks. Honestly looks like the day I put it on and it’s copped some abuse 😁 The only scratches on my rig are the wheel arches and the black columns between the windows - basically the only areas which aren’t covered in PPF
I have a question for you 4x4 industry experts! (and I wonder if you can tell me if it's true that the ironman nitro gas shocks match well with the original setup and can be retrofitted with the +5? I have a suzuki jimny 4x4 with m13a 1.3 l gas engine with shock absorbers and standard settings, yesterday afternoon I bought the new ironman nitro gas shock absorbers and the 4x4 spare parts dealer in Florence told me that these ironman nitro gas shock absorbers are suitable for 4x4 off-road vehicles with original finish or in a second you could put the springs higher and it would become a +5 high finish, is that true? Greetings from Florence, Italy!)
Hi Luca. If you’re referring to the +5 being +50mm then yes I believe the factory Ironman shocks suit up to a 50mm lift. Would always replace factory with pairs so you have the correct springs and shocks to match. Hope that helps 👍
@@Perth4WDandCamping Thank you. I was also reading that these Ironman nitrogas shocks can work with an original configuration and raising the configuration in height so you understand
Hi, I’m trying to decide whether to get ironman FCP or dobinson IMS. Thoughts on this pls
Hi mate. Sorry can’t compare with the Dobinsons as have only used the Ironman. I’m on my second set of Ironman (last ones on my Pajero Sport) and been really happy with them. Handle the weight of the van well when towing, good offroad and great value for money.
@@Perth4WDandCamping thank you! I see to be getting mixed opinions on Ironman FCP in OZ
@Milyong there’s always lots of opinions when it comes to after market accessories which makes it tricky
Hi I have wildtrak 2023 will use iron man 2 inç lift kit. I am using my pick up 60 percent on asphalt.
What is the maximum measure of radius and width of the tire that I can use WITHOUT touching to anywhere.
And are you happy with maxxis razr.
I have seen people running the same size as me without a lift, however they have had to trim the inner guard. 285 70 17 tyres. I’ve added 17” rims with a +30 offset which brings the wheels out slightly and I have no clearance issues. This is the widest offset you are legally allowed in WA where you can’t adjust the wheel track more than 50mm
Re the tyres I’m running Mickey Thompson Baja Boss ATs. Really good tyres. Will be doing a tyre review vid in a few weeks
Hey mate any shudder issues with the lift?
Hey. No none at all
I do. Driving me crazy! Seems I'm not alone as plenty of people are reporting the issue.ironman don't seem to want anything to do with it. Pretty annoyed as I have dropped 16k on all the mods and now it drives like crap and I have to do the running around to find the issue. They blamed my driveshaft, ford replaced it and I paid to get it balanced still have the shudder. They still won't take responsibility.
@VANDETA82 hi mate. Really sorry to hear you’re having issues!
Unsure of what you’ve already looked into but from what I understand you can get vibration if the centre bearing spacer needs adjustment or the rear is sitting too high - ie running heavy rear springs with not enough load. If the lift is too high also this can impact the way the car drives.
Does this lift kit come with any warranty?
Ironman offer a 3yr or 60k warranty on suspension
@@Perth4WDandCamping Cheers for the reply and thats not too bad
I went for the Ironman pro adjustable kit in my next gen ? Did they even offer that to u instead of the foam cell
Hey mate. Yeah that was an option for me and opted for the foamcells. All comes down to vehicle use. I wanted a good balance of on-road, tow and off-road. Pros are a good shock off-road, but there will be some compromise with on-road comfort.
@@Perth4WDandCamping yeah they definitely are harder on the road
@@willemvantsant1786 yeah they just need more load through the strut to rebound, compared to the lighter ones, but if you’re hitting the tracks hard, the pros will really come into their own
I thought the whole idea of the adjustable dampers. To be able to adjust the compression and rebound for long runs of corrugations and then for mainly road when you're doing that?
@@gregjacques3159 they are height adjustable front struts. Rebound and dampening is not adjustable. Height can only be done with struts out of vehicle. Nitro and foam are also height adjustable just by shims, not via treaded nut on spring seat.
You are very fortunate to have had a good experience with the Ironman fitter. I wonder whether or not it is because you have a youtude channel. I have had a really bad experience with Ironman and the Ironman fitter I used. Beggars belief really! They ignored me all though my issues are very serious. In my experience if you have a problem with an Ironman fitter you are on your own. I would never ever have any Ironman stuff put on my next gen ranger ever again. Be warned!
Hi Ian. That sucks you had a bad experience ☹️. I had some work done years ago before the channel (was Sharp 4x4) and had a good experience.
I agree 100% if you have issues with any company, you want to know they have your back. I’ve always found Shaun and his team at 4x4 Extras to be amazing - they don’t push products on you that aren’t needed and if anything doesn’t go 100% to plan, they will jump on top of it straight away.
@@Perth4WDandCamping I am glad that is the case for you. Shaun may well be an honorable person and he may do the right thing my his customers. However, that is not the case with all Ironman dealers. I had the work done in Sydney. What I can tell you is if you were to have a problem and Shaun decided he would not do the right thing, you would be on your own. Inorman ignores my request to try to resolve the issues. You should know I have been treated badly and I am not the only one.
@@ianmason8774 not across your circumstances, but obviously there are avenues to try and get a remedy - ie consumer protection to take a look into things for you if not getting traction.
I can only talk to my experiences Ian.
@@Perth4WDandCamping Thanks for the advice however, I am aware of this and a few other things I can pursue, which I will be taking up. I just think people need to be warned. I know I would have liked to be warned before I spent thousands on dollars, wouldn't you? Like you I can talk to my experiences and that is my point , this is my experience. If I said I had a good experience would have you said to me, "I can only talk to my experiences Ian". I feel you are not being objective. Sometimes people do the wrong thing and sometimes people need to be called out about this for the greater good.
@@ianmason8774 happy for you to share your experience Ian. That’s what this channel is all about and I always welcome comments - good and bad. Hope you get it all sorted 👍