I ENGINEERED MY RANGER! Legal Lift And Tyres On The Next Gen
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 มิ.ย. 2023
- Yes it's road legal! My V6 Ranger goes through engineering in Western Australia for a lift and bigger tyres.
In this video, I step through the whole engineering process, timing and costs involved.
This video is not sponsored, with all products and the install paid for by me.
Refer to the suspension installation video here for details on suspension parts installed on his Next Gen Ranger: • IRONMAN SUSPENSION LIF...
You can skip to the sections below with the timestamps listed:
00:59 Pays to do your research
01:29 Why get my car engineered?
02:36 Some context to my situation
04:11 The engineering steps
15:14 Approval
15:30 The costs
16:20 New vehicle details
16:41 Final thoughts
Department of Transport homepage:
www.transport.wa.gov.au/
List of Engineers:
www.transport.wa.gov.au/media...
Vlad (Engineer details)
0459345268
vlad.diaconita@gmail.com
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Cheers Mark - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Thank you for doing this. You have made me realise that every 4wd I've had was not legal and now I have to factor in these costs on the new ranger I've got coming. Keep up to good work! 👍
Thanks mate. I think a lot of people would be in the same boat. Congrats on the new purchase 👍
Just got my v6 wildtrak, in WA too. Not looking to lift it or anything just yet. Gonna take it to my local spots (mostly beaches) to see if i absolutely need the mods.
i am extremely thankful for these guides in case i do in the future, cheers mate keep up the great work.
Thanks Ken 👌 You’re definitely approaching it the right way. They are capable out of the box, so best to try it stock and you might be able to save yourself a heap of money. The only question mark for me stock if going offroad stock is the tyres. Mine had highway tyres when new and I feel they are vulnerable to a sidewall puncture offroad. Another option down the track for you could be putting on some better quality AT tyres with a 2 or 3 ply sidewall.
Enjoy your new ride 👍
What an excellent account of how to approach the legal lift process and step by step guide to getting approval.
Thanks. A big process but happy to have it all legal
Thanks for your video! Your step-by-step content is amazing! I am in WA too. Recently, I just got my Ranger. I am wondering if I need to submit the mod form to the DOT if I only install a bullbar and canopy.
No worries. Was a bit of a process but worth it for the extra payload and lift. I didn’t do a mod form for the bullbar.
The new audio setup sounds fantastic mate
Thanks mate 😊
Great video cheers man, also shows why most people run lift a tyre mods without this process so complicated and extensive
Yeah 100%. A lot of red tape for a simple 2” lift and 33s but that’s the process here in WA
very well covered on engineering process of 4wds , i found a lot of different opinions of how this is done , you did a lot of research and covered it well👍
Thank you. Appreciate the feedback 👍
Awesome video, I've been thinking of doing the same to my Ranger, But lucky I watched your video as I thought it was 50mm lift and a 50mm larger tyre, so had I done both like you, I'd have been way over and not known. Which kind of wheel flares have you put on, they look awesome.
Thanks mate. Plenty of people out there running vehicles over the legal height unaware, so glad it helped 😁
I’m running the EGR flares. They’re perfect with the +30 ROH rims I’m running
Hey mate just wondering if the engineering cert is only valid for Western Australia as you have done this after rego?
Love the content, keep it up
G’day. Thanks.
If I was to reregister the vehicle in another state then some paperwork/additional certification may be needed - would have to check with the particular state. In terms of driving through another state temporarily, this would be under my WA registration where the mods are approved. When I do this I’ll carry a copy of my DOT (WA) approval.
Awesome mate !
Thanks mate 😁
Good video. Just rewatch the last bit again. What does the NEW TARE of 2540kg include? Is that with full tank of fuel and one person onboard?
It’s when it’s empty - no cargo, no passengers, 10L of fuel. Your tare will vary depending on what mods you’ve added (bullbar, winch, roof racks etc)
Thanks
Welcome 👍
Great video Mark.
It shouldn’t be this hard tho in my opinion, the suspension manufacturer should get their suspension certified and all you’d have to do it get a mechanic to install it, not all these hoops to jump through with engineers, surely Ironman and arb have already done the engineering on it before they bring it to market.
Thanks mate. Yeah agree - it’s a big process and would be amazing if it could be simplified. GVM only can be quite a simple process if you go ARB, Ironman etc which offer those packages, but it’s when you start adding bigger tyres and a lift that it gets complicated.
This is why I did my XLT pre rego. NSW.
All done by ARB.
Nice mate. You running a lift too? As far as I’m aware ARB only do the GVM, not lift
I approached my local ARB initially to see if there was an option to do the GVM, plus get engineering for bigger tyres. Was told could only do the GVM
Yes, you could be right.
Great video! Whats the total height of the vehicle now? Not including the roof antenna ? Cheers
1.9M
Thank you for content. Trying to decide if going for a gvm upgrade of 3500 or 3650. What was end weight loaded when compared to gvm?
We were pretty much on the GVM of 3449kg for the test. There was a lot of weight added by the engineer. Just note there’s a few additional things you’ll need to do if going over 3500kg such as adding the additional lights to the side of the vehicle. You can always reach out to an engineer before you lock in suspension and talk through what you’re trying to achieve
Thanks - great video. I am based in regional WA, and those who are also regional, getting engineering would be impossible without heading into the city. Any tips on this?
Thanks. Have you checked out the engineers list on the DOT area to see if any are based outside of the metro area?
yes, none up North in Broome unfortunately. or anywhere near here
and it seems we need access to a racetrack
@@eddietran3760 I’d suggest giving either Vlad a call (his number is in the description) and asking for his advice, or you can call DOT on 08 9216 8579 and see if they can point you in the right direction. Sorry I’m unable to help further but I’d suggest this approach first.
Gday mate why did need the gvm upgrade? Was that because you have the long range fuel tank and bull bar etc?
Was worth doing at the same time as the cost is very similar just to engineer the lift. The new suspension is capable of handling more load than stock so it’s a win-win. The Ranger’s payload is ok, but I just had the opportunity to get that bit more. The extra GVM I’ve gained is about equivalent to the amount of tow-ball download when I’m towing the van, so I get the payload back to carry additional gear if necessary. Plus as you’ve noted it helps to offset some of the additional mods I’ve added.
Awesome thanks mate I’m looking into the same thing atm with my next generation wildtrak
Your video has been very helpful
@@daveolsen5173 no worries. Glad it helped 👍
Did you look at Outback Armour? What was your original rim offset? 👍
I had a look at OA but not in a lot of detail. I’m sure their gear is good but have never personally run it on a vehicle. In the end I went for what I have used and trust offroad. Stock 17s tyres are a +55 offset. +30 is as much as you can go to keep within 50mm in WA
@@Perth4WDandCamping i thought the cost was pretty reasonable, I thought the ranger would have been 3500 GVM? What are they? ( I have Hilux 😮)
@@Perth4WDandCamping cool, my Hilux is p30 stock I am going to P7 Fuel rims to keep legal. Everyone says go p0 but there illegal.
@@richardwalsh5570 yeah best to keep legal 👍
have you had any issues with driveline vibration at all?
No issues
What was the total amount of the lift in the end (tyres and suspension) - are locked in to always putting that type of tyre on you vehicle (different tyres could mean a bigger lift)
60mm. Tyres have very aggressive tread so won’t be an issue going to other brands of tyres unless I go a bigger size (Eg 33 to 35)
Do you need approval by law? I am fully into being legal, however, to my understanding is that you dont need to have Engineering for your lift the size you have gone 50 mm (usually a 50mm lift is a bit less) and tyres/wheel offset? I understand to get the GVM upgrade you need engineering.
In WA you can only go 50mm over stock height (total increase) - a 2” lift will take you to this limit so the addition of bigger tyres would put me over. For me 33s and a 2” lift is a perfect combo for what we do and thus requires engineering - even if I didn’t want a GVM upgrade I’d have to get signed off by an engineer to be legal.
Plenty of people running a similar set up with no engineering, but for the reasons outlined in my vid, that’s a risk some people gamble on (insurance etc) - not the way I wanted to approach it.
I love this only thing I don’t like is if you get it engendered post registration then it’s only legal in the state that it was done in so if you were to say drive to QLD it will not be legal
G’day Haydn. If I was to reregister the vehicle in another state then there may be some paperwork/additional certification needed - you’d have to check with the particular state. In terms of driving through another state temporarily, this would be under my WA registration where the mods are approved. When I do this I’ll carry a copy of my DOT approval.
@@Perth4WDandCamping ye that sounds like a good plan. Just to keep it all compliant . Loving the content though kate keep it up
Did you notice an increase in your insurance once you got the engineering completed?
My policy based on value of mods etc, and everything covered as long as legal etc. I have adequate cover to cover my mods so would be no further increase. Definitely worth checking with your insurer however and their position if you go down this route
surprised you can still drive in australia without a helmet
Watch out. Might be coming ha ? 👷♂️
That’s not far off the mark.