Dr. Michael Greger: Inside “How Not To Age” | The Exam Room Podcast
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- How Not To Age is the single biggest research project Dr. Michael Greger has ever undertaken.
Go inside the chapters of this massive book and discover the secretes to aging with grace, beauty, and health in this interview on The Exam Room Podcast.
Dr. Greger shares fruits of his labor, which included more than 13 thousand references in the original work before publishers declared the book too big to publish and slashed it half.
You will reap the anti-aging benefits of the unrivaled volumes of research as he sits down with "The Weight Loss Champion" Chuck Carroll.
From learning how to tap into the full age-defying potential of nutrients to the foods that speed up the aging process, Dr. Greger shares his findings for How Not To Age.
Topics Discussed
- How he'll release the research that was edited out of the book
- Why polyphenols are more potent when consumed with fiber
- Why red grapes are a better anti-aging option than green grapes
- Why seeded grapes are a better option than seedless grapes
- Dr. Greger's love of Asian grocery stores and their produce section
- How salt accelerates the aging process
- Alcohol and aging
- An obscure study showing cola drinks are healthy and why the science is skewed
- And more!
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I will be 76 years old Dec. 29th...and i just had my yearly physical. Ive been vegan since 2015. All my blood markers were normal.....and im on no medications except B12 and vegan dha epa. I study Dr. Gregers' information daily.
What a miracle this understanding about food is!
We have the same birthday!!! 🎂 It’s coming up yet again. I have been dipping in and out of veganism since 2016. I’m in my late 40s now and have had a hard time and had to research a lot bc I’m allergic to soy, wheat, potatoes, peanuts and sesame. This makes it very difficult to be vegan full time BUT a great company in Colorado is now making protein crumbles made with mushrooms and peas-two ingredients Dr Greger touts in his book. So, my goal is now to go full vegan in 2024!! Happy early bday btw! 🎉
Bet you feel great too! How the energy levels, anything of complaint? Markers tells one story, feelings tells the truth. Dr. Greger looks remarkably old for his 51 years. I will take anything he says with a grain of salt. Also, I would follow those who look absolutely fantasic, do you think Dr. Saladino is 4 years younger than Dr. Greger? I would than there should be 20 years between them, and only one of them eat meat.
@Becky_Cal it really isn't difficult at all to be vegan with your restrictions. Buckwheat, (which isn't wheat) sweet potatoes which aren't potatoes, millet, brown rice, many other carbohydrates you can eat. No excuses.
@@eugenechen8240guess what? The things that you refer to with regard to the way Dr greger looks are genetic. His ancestors ate meat. His grandma is the reason he went vegan. She was sent home to die at age 65 and by going plant based she lived to be 96.
@@eugenechen8240 his hair is grey and balding. His voice sounds old. Those are genetics. His skin looks healthy and he has tons of energy. How old are you and how is your energy level?
I love how Dr. Greger emphasis the importance of libraries in the beginning of the video. Nowadays it seems like they are invisible, because nobody talks about them anymore when advertising books.
We all owe so much to Michael Greger.
Now, as I am late to the party watching this video, I am excited to read the book (waiting for my Amazon delivery). I am 65 yrs and am dedicated to making this my year to get healthy. I always thought I was ok health wise and then I got Covid. I had all my vaccinations and boosters, but still became very sick for over 3 weeks. If I didn’t have those vaccines I would have been one in a hospital attached to a respirator. After that I kept catching everything. Was sick for over 3 months. I realized I needed to do better.
Seeing Dr. Greger in Rich Roll many years ago. Now I'm Lean, Sharp and Run Ultra Marathons. Life's Good.
The ultra marathon’s are filling your heart with scar tissue. Sorry to say
@@nonfictiononeI am willing to risk it for the pleasure I get from very long runs. It’s my high, I like it more than any drug available.
@@aprilracine yup fair enough.
@@nonfictionone could you please give me some evidence? thank you! :)
@@susana.esteves research it.
Dr Gregor is so entertaining. I just turned 85 in November and I am hoping to live to 100 as my mother had and also her baby sister who just turned 100 in September. I am still driving walking wanting to enter 10k races and MA Whole Foods plant based person, thankful that there are others like us out therewho are still healthy wise. Keep up the good work Dr. Gregor thank you.
I'm wondering why time seems to fly by as I get older but time seems to go by slower as I'm waiting for "How Not To Age" to come out. I preordered it a while ago and it feels like I've been waiting a year. 😁 I find Dr. Greger to be so energetic, so smart and so funny. He's such a pleasure to listen to.
time is relative! So time is actually moving slower for you and faster at different times. Congrats! lol
I hear you! Same here!😂
Yay, my copy comes in TODAY!!!
@@donnaarney587 Mine to! No cleaning will get done today. 😁
I wish Dr. Gregor would give all his profits from his books to the PCRM. They are the only organization that I know of who are diligently trying to prevent the meat & dairy industries from continuing to poison us. Poison is NOT too strong of a word. If processed foods destroy our microbiome they have to be poisoning other areas of our body as well. 😢
This is, by far, my favourite interview with Dr. Gregor on How Not to Age. Chuck, you rocked it, and of course, Dr. Gregor is so personable as always. Love it!
By comparing at the appearance of Dr. Greger and his 51 years, I thought it will be a great idea to remove the "NOT" from the title of his book.
@@eugenechen8240It is NOT about 'How not to LOOK older' 🙄 It's about how not to age INTERNALLY ! Of course YOUR age (nor PHOTO ) was included in your comment 🤨 & I presume you're NOT a Physician . Since Dr.Greger went through Medical School , Internship,etc; Has a Practice; has Written many Books ( the one being discussed took him 3 YEARS ! ) Therefore, Considering ALL those impressive accomplishments, his fun, positive personality (and no doubt his massive "Net Worth") He definitely IS Extremely Good-Looking ! 👀 also, Along with his extensive knowledge of the human body, he most-likely has incredible Endurance + delightful-creativity , in the bedroom ! 😊 Aren't you glad you criticized his "Looks" ?? 🙄
@@wordgirl6267 I suspect you might want to be in that bedroom of his. Jokes aside, I watched a video when he met his number one fan and it was rare short when he actually has a substantial belly. If you watch some of the interviews you might notice his hands have huge bulging veins - a sign of aging. Regardless of his net worth or suspected internal health, his advice comes from his genuine belief. The only problems is he is mistaken and he has influenced many people, myself included. I was ex vegan of 8 years and let me tell you it won’t end well. But it seems many people are too invested in this ideology so I have advised my son to chose pharmaceutical in his university selection. He will have plenty of plant based customers and he won’t go hungry. As to myself, since you have asked, am not a doctor even though I do possess a Ph D in chemical engineering. I am doing ok and I am 55 and eating meat and animal fat only. I have a BMI of 23 and a body fat index of 15%, not the best but most people take me for early 40s. So good luck to you and thank you for your comment.
His name is Greger, not Gregor.
I love your programs. I currently am on a 100% plant-based diet no other foods or Franken foods I have incorporated everything this wonderful man has taught me and 72. My life is on track to to bring my age down to 52 maybe younger God bless you both and God bless those of us who have taken our health and her own hands and trusted the brave souls like Dr. Furman, Dr. Dean Ornish, Dr. Caldwell Esselstein, Dr. McDougall. And and I know I’ve missed others people that have influenced me so greatly. God bless you all. Thank you, Chuck.
@robertmorgan5467,
I listen to Ornish, Essylsten and McDougall but I actually follow Dr. Greger and Dr. Fuhrman.
Just call it vegan! 😅 sorry congrats good job 🏆
Don’t forget Dr. Barnard!
There are lots of antiplant food advocates and they are often nasty.You tube has a lot .
Colin Campbell
My How Not to Age books (Xmas gifts and one for us) just arrived. Thumbed through and getting ready for the deep dive.
On behalf of humanity, Michael, a heartfelt thank you. As an academic and textbook writer, I do know what is involved.
I applaud not only your meticulous research but also your exceptional capacity to translate it. You are a knowledge translator ‘par excellence’. There needs to be a Nobel prize for knowledge translation, given the heap of decades-old exceptional studies supporting vegan nutrition that fall by the wayside (yet would do more to support human health than all the drug studies put together - a travesty). Professor-Elizabeth
Seeing Greger get fired up is great. You can tell he would be cool to talk off camera with. I could only imagine how he would rant and rave about things. He's being very professional as always but you can see the burning passion there. I wanna see him dropping F bombs
I don't - I love his calm, cool, collected, yet enthusiastic demeanor. No need to creak character like that lol
I've met him. He's lovely. Really very polite, funny, courteous, has loads of time for you. Full of energy and walks everywhere. Imagine a rock star taking the bus. That's Greger. 😊
What a powerful partnership, Chuck Carroll and Dr. Michael Greger! I have pre-ordered on Amazon Kindle - can't wait for the release!
I've happily pre-ordered every single book Dr Greger has released ever and my life has changed so much for the better. Can't be thankful enough, changed my own and family's lives. Thank you! ♥
@KinaStaru,
Dr. Greger is a mensch.
There's nothing higher than a "mensch."
I adore this man. Thank you Dr. G for saving me from food self destruction!
Chuck Carroll is the best interviewer! A few minutes in, and he already strikes a chord with Dr. Greger, asking about his grandmother. So beautiful to see the change. And I learnt something new about a longevity syndrome. Very interesting.
The problem with Asian Grocery Stores is you don't know where the food is grown and the there is very little Pesticide Regulation in most of these countries.....
you can easily grow your own. They're greens after all! Besides - it's greens - so toxins are not as bioaccumulated as animal products. I don't worry much about it, but there's always diy sprouts and microgreens.
This is also my question. I'm yet to see if Dr Greger addresses it in a video or the book as I'm just starting the greger journey. But, yes, there is the important distinction for me of organic vs. everything else when it comes to leafy veggies.
Dr Gregers enthusiasm and excitement from the knowledge he’s gained is contagious! So grateful he’s out there educating we the people!
I love how passionate Dr Greger is about science and about making sure he has all of his information cited and backed by peer-reviewed studies! I pre-ordered the book and am reading through it every evening. Sooooo much great information!!! And much of what he advises is quite easy and affordable to apply. Thank you Dr Greger!!! ❤❤❤❤
When my dad was a kid in 1930, he said they called cigarettes 'coffin nails'. No doubt people knew they were bad for you. I'm looking forward to learning more about the impact of using retinoids.
That just goes to show you some people would rather die early than relinquish their addictions. My mother smoled all her life. Died i
of renal failure (too much meat) . Also had an abominal aneursym.
My book will be here by Friday. Thank you thank you thank you don’t forget all the money you spend on these books goes to charity. We love Dr. Gregor.
Dr. Greger was attempting to surpass the number of pages of Leo Tolstoy's "War & Peace"
I bought How Not to Age for gifts and a gift for myself, too. Cheers & thank you !
48:14 brilliant interview. Such energy and sooo much content 👍
Finally, a book that will keep me occupied for a while 😁
Would have loved the option to buy a physical + digital book combo
did you buy the plant based book bundle? That one keeps me occupied for years!
@@extropiantranshumanwhich books are in the bundle?
I have met and talked with Dr Gregor, and also met some very famous people, and he is one of the most facinating persons on the planet. He is a walking encyclopedia of the human phiysiological condition.." If you want to live come with me "should be on his tombstone. Yeah, I hope I live that long... God bless you DR Gregor.
Ok maybe it's me. Did anyone else find that oxymoronic...if you want to live come with me on his tombstone. Ugh a tombstone is on your grave so you are not living anymore. Come with you where to the dark side????
Wonder how many lives, both human and animal, Dr. Greger has saved or just made better.
My copy has just arrived
Sebastopol Sunday farm market, we have a grower who does incredible Taiwanese green veggies. Had a heart issue after covd booster and calmed down with weekly greens.
Can't wait for tomorrow! I've also pre-ordered my copy a long time ago! Thank you for the great work Dr. Greger 🙏🙌
Great interview with Dr. Greger!! While he's sitting 🧘♀😉
Laughing at Dr. Greger taking lychees to the movie theater - yum! I’ve been taking steamed potatoes to the movies with me for the last couple of years but maybe I should branch out and bring fruit!
eh - my choice of movie theater smuggling's puffed amaranth tbh. Gotta have me some lysine with people around me. It's nature's lysol!
I take grapes….
Several ‘laugh out loud moments for me. As a health professional myself, I resonated to Dr. Greger’s story about his reaction on taking his smoking colleague aside only to discover that if he wasn’t smoking he’d resume heroin (min 31]. Changed Micheal’s demeanour 180 degrees to ‘Okay! Let me buy you a pack!). Professor-Elizabeth
I really appreciated hearing the discussion of body positivity and fat shaming … It’s such a delicate subject in some circles, which probably makes it harder to express concern or share information.
I wish everyone on the planet knew all this factual information. What a difference it would make overall to mankind.
I just wish the average doctor knew it.
Incredible information!!! I love your channel here, and just love Dr Gregor and his energy and enthusiasm!!!
Great interview with the Dr.
A plethora of good info!!!!
Brilliant as usual, but the tie! The tie is gorgeous.
Incredible accomplishments. Thank you Dr Greger for sharing all your knowledge to the world.
Just an outstanding discussion.
I ordered the book today! Love both of these guys! Thank you Chuck for having such a great guest as Dr. Gregor! He is a wealth of knowledge, and a true humanitarian, with donating proceeds to charity, and giving everyone the opportunities to know this information he has compiled from all of these studies! Great interview, and can't wait for my book to arrive!
Asian markets. who knows Dr Greger likes to shop there. Thank God. God bless!
Great Video!!
2 of my favorite people! great episode.
Excellent interview!
Looking forward to his next book on how to build muscle!
Dr Gregor is amazing in my opinion. Thank you!!!
I love Dr. Greger and Chuck’s works. You both are amazing 😂❤education is the key!!!we preordered the books for all my families &friends for the holiday gift!!
already preordered the book and can’t wait to read it!
Have reserved a copy from my local library.
8:30 best moment here. Thanks, Chuck for this interview
Thank you so much Chuck, for keeping us informed. You are an inspiration. Your story is an amazing one. Thank you
I LOVE DR GREGER !!! My BOOK ARRIVING TOMORROW!!! Can't wait !!
Love this doctor 😇great information and interview 😊thank you both so much for everything you do to keep us informed 🙏🙏
I preordered How Not to Age on Audible and it arrived today. I can’t wait to start listening on my daily walks. Dr. Gregor is my favorite…so informative and such a delight to hear talk. I also have the book on hold at the library and I’m sure will buy that also. Louise J.
Two heroes right there ❤
I can hardly wait to get the book!
just preordered my book... very excited to get it and read it. 😍 🙏
Perfect Christmas gift, just give it early
Looking great and green. Loved the tie!
My book just came !!! One day earlier !!! and I am cooking an amazing soup of broccoli cauliflower sweet potato purple and orange and onion red and green and I will add lentils to it .. Dr. Greger I love you!!! you are my saver !!!
I borrowed 'How Not to Die' from the library. Of course, the evidence behind the best recommendations by major health organizations is covered but many interesting tidbits about other studies. I am reading carefully and will take a while.
Can't afford to buy it right now. I put it on hold at the library. Wow, came up as the top book in the search and lots of holds on it. Looking forward to getting it!
Great interview. I am a perfectionist and have a tendency to be hard on myself for. “Imperfect” eating. You have given me a lot to think about in terms of balance and self compassion. Thank you.
So long as you are not harming someone else (non human animals) I think it's at least not ethically wrong to cheat every so often 😊 I eat mostly whole food plant based but every so often do eat French fries and yummy beyond meat burgers and vegan ice cream 🍦☺️ on special days
Finally Michael Greger
book of immortality - so many details are going on my personal website after I get through the mega 50 minutes of this! Wow Physicians Committee - just wow!
My book arrives Thursday 7th November and can't wait. Wish there was a How Not To Age Diet Die book group on Facebook to discuss Dr. Greger's work.
I think dr. Greger made a lot of sense.
Chuck did a good interview.
This was a great interview. It would be helpful to watch an interview with Chuck Carroll and Dr Greger discuss weight loss surgery. Understanding that Chuck Carroll had weight loss surgery and appears to be thriving.
Chuck, I agree, Dr M. Greger is the greatest in his field, in my honest opinion.
Made sure to pre-order the book from the local book store.
Just ordered the book- Xmas gift to myself🎁🎄
35:15 that sounds like something I would say. Did chuck hear it from me? The cheapest meal is just frozen vegetables, tomato paste, some water, and italian herbs (I'm talking the green leaves - like oregano, etc.) and you got yourself a vegetable soup. I guess you can get the frozen pasta for that extra satiety - but that's a few dollars more. It's much easier to add some nutritional yeast and call it a day.
The salt thing is very good info.👍🏼
He's the BEST ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Cannot wait for How not to Age to download to my Kindle on Friday. 🎉🎉🎉
My favorite grocery store is a “mom and pop” (literally!) Korean grocery store! I go every weekend! Love their produce, unique grains, dried soybeans, frozen Korean corn on the cob (very different from US), etc. Love it!
p.s. The woman at my Korean grocery store makes vegan kimchee for me with miso instead of salt! ❤
I had a local asian grocery store growing up too that was also mom and pop. I don't think they were korean, but who knows?
13:23 tatsoi's my favorite asian green! I do love me crysanthemum greens as well. Still - no greens beat rose geranium! Still my fav.
Hi from Denmark…..Love it ❤
Can't wait for the german translation of how not to age!🌱💚
why not get a phone app to hover over the pages for you?
Chuck Carroll and Dr. Greger?? Shut the front door!!!
Woot! 🥦❤
“Coke vs milk” 😂 or the noose versus the bullet
I love all the info and I learn a lot from this fast glimpses into the book. I Will drop sauerkraut and kimchi because of the salt, eat even more green vegetables and use vinegar in steak for cabbage - and summer in warwe at low temperature - and I must Reading the book ( wish is was a serie of books - Easter to bring with you when travelling 😇🙏🙏🙏 for all the inspiration 🌷❤️
And gogi berries - I Will look for Them too 🙏
Dr. Funk said broccoli sprouts (i.e. nature's candy) has the most sulforaphanes around! Just make your own saurkraut - because at least that'd have the microbes for vitamin K2! The mk-7 type as well.
32:50 there is also the aspect that personal choice has impacts on public health spending. bit i guess on the other hand also less spending on retirement
not eating polyphenols is like not breathing! It's the key to life!
His thoughts about Asian markets are interesting, but unless I missed something, he doesn’t talk about how these exotic vegetables, etc., are grown…meaning possible use of pesticides, etc. I have a Concord grape vine (with seeds) in my yard and I juice, freeze for smoothies, etc. It is such an amazing producer that I have as much as I can handle and also share with neighbors. I know those grapes are organic, and I know that grapes purchased from supermarkets are generally on the dirty dozen, so how are those lucious grapes (and veggies) in the Asian market grown? Louise J.
This depends on the country you live in and what's allowed there.
I remember him talking in some video about bio foods.
44:13 people never talk about this - but calcium is an internal sunscreen - it forms antioxidants on the skin. I would imagine blue/purple foods probably do the best to repel as well - since they reflect blue light and purple - so they might reflect the UV rays. I would imagine salt being bad for the skin. Another one that's super powerful's coq10.
What a beautiful reparté! Dr. Greger lychee fruit into a theater near you! Chuck, you should not enable this behavior!😂
cannot believe Chuck weighed 400 lbs . That puts my 30+ lb loss 2 shame. lol. With only 30 excess lbs lost, also lost > HTN, Hyperlipidemia/ cholesterol/ trig. etc., and a much better gut ! Luckily, I haven't lost my mind ...
No, no no. You did great, you list what you needed to and your healthier for it. Great job.
Hello from texas 👋
I have a question, what's the best way to eat for no gallbladder? And am I at a higher risk for fat deficiency? What foods do I avoid and what foods should I eat ?
You will still be able to digest fat. Bile is made by your liver but gets stored in the gallbladder. So the bile will just drip into your intestines. Unfortunately bile is irritating and there's a lot of evidence that this increases your rate for colon cancer and probably other diseases. So to get your liver to produce less bile you need to eat low fat. And eat lots of fiber to soak up the bile dripping into your intestines. And it's impossible to not get enough fat on a plant based diet. If you're eating enough to maintain a healthy weight you will be fine. Even if you ate literally just potatoes and broccoli. Dr mcdougall had a lecture on TH-cam called the skinny on fat where he talks about this. But if you're still worried about it then add a tablespoon of flax or chia seed or 1 ounce of nuts.
@heatherh3487 yes the liver has to detoxify all that.
Listening to Sally Norton is scaring me about high oscillate greens (foods) causing health problems. What's the best?
Do you mean oxalates? If so, watch Dr brooke goldner talk about them. They're not a problem at all
just so you know dr greger - there's tomatoes in jars that are no salt - just tomatoes - and it's practically pasta sauce. I had jovial food's crushed tomatoes, but you can do diced tomatoes from that brand - and I'll call it pasta sauce - as that would be super easy to place on your pasta with some veggies!
44:13 I went to sunbaking hawaii and was in the sun all day. I wore sunscreen on all of my body except my face. I put Rachel Perry's Elastin and Collagen Firming Treatment on there - and the thing is - sometimes I forgot to wear sunscreen on my body. It didn't matter - whether or not I wore sunscreen - my body burned and the skin peeled even. Only my face that I didn't put sunscreen on didn't! I see it has marshmallow in it - so maybe that's what does the trick? There's studies that say it protects against the worst - UVA radiation. It also has "French Coneflower, Horsetail, Comfrey Root (Allantoin), Belgian Chamomile, Korean Ginseng, Bladderwrack, Linden, Ivy, Yarrow and Witch Hazel" plus algae and avocado. So there's something to it where there's edible plants that're better than sunscreen!
44:13 lycopene - I'll take that into consideration
11:18 I really don't like Thompson green grapes. Where I get grapes with seeds is right off the plant. They grow concord grapes where I live - they taste like mangos. Wine grapes are extremely rich in color - the color goes all the way through the inside of the grape! If you can get a hold of wine grapes to eat - that's awesome! The less acidic, the better as well.
36:18 but pasta made from green peas is similar to wheat pasta. I guess if you want 'whole wheat' the closest is buckwheat - but maybe that has little nutritional value compared to legumes. I love banza more than wheat pasta (then again I can't eat gluten much, but still).
Michael Gregor looks and sounds so young. He is a shining beacon of good health for the to the world to see the power of a plant based diet.
Don't know if you follow Alan goldhamer. Plant based Dr. He is in his 60s and looks in his 40s, their skin is so smooth.
Thanks for the heads up. his skin looks pretty good compared to Michael Gregor's. He should be the one being interviewed. @@Goodbyeeveryonehere
I thought you were talking about the interviewer. How old is that guy? I looked up Goldhamer. He is a chiropractor. He looks like any guy in his 50s. By the way Michael Gregor has a big Chip in his front tooth, I don't think he plays hockey. It may be demineralization.
Hope you have mentioned the role the mind plays in the aging process! The mind is much more powerful than most people think! If you expect senescence it will effect you at a cellular scale! Belief or expectation is a very potent aspect to health and longevity!
Dude said " shut the fuck up" 😂
13:00 why goji berries when sumac berries have the highest orac value we know? And it's dry! According to my research (in order) - it's blueberries, bilberries, oranges, carob, currants (black), and elderberries that're the top for fruit for flavanoids (yes - I did my own research too). That said - soy - being a seed - beats them all, as well as tea - which is a leaf. The issue with goji berries is that they're in the nightshade family - so it can be triggering for certain people. So that's when I'd cede to sumac, blueberries, etc. No need to deny - acai is the fruit after sumac with the most orac value. Then again - the internet says dragon's blood beats out everything with a whopping over 2 million orac value. So where's that being said? I guess I have to look to find out.
I'm in Vietnam and I really hope this book gets translated into vietnamese 🙏
you get a phone app to hover over the pages for you
It was a good interview but i am little bit confused about fermented foods that i though were supposed to be good for your microbiota.
Good for microbiome but apparently too much sodium can cause stomach cancer.
Make your own without the salt
Oh No! When I heard his thoughts about lacto fermented foods (with salt) I was upset. I love making saurkraut with cabbage, carrots, ginger...and yes salt.
It's fine! It's not like you eat a huge amount of it, even if you eat it daily.
why? Just ditch the salt - it honestly doesn't need it. Salt isn't even vegan from what I heard anyway. You're likely killing all the microbes with the salt anyway - salt's antimicrobial. How are you honestly getting any fermenting going anyway? Sounds more like pickling to me.
maybe there's a reason why you're upset - something to ponder over and think about? What're you upset about? Him, his words, you, me?