I bought these because for the price (140€) I felt these would definitely fill the "racing day shoe" for an amateur runner like myself. Only did one run with them (5k) and I felt great, improved my PR by a whole minute. Of course at 24m 5k effort there's still a lot of room for improvement but I feel these will be helpful for quite some time :)
The PhD from labratrundown tested version 1 and found it to be more efficient in terms of economy than many shoes except the AF, VF, SE elite but comparable to the Asics shoes and better than Adidas, New Balance etc. Interestingly Alex Filitii measured his efficiency with a Stryd pod w/ a bunch of shoes and version 2 was the best then Nike and the rest. The Puma may not feel the fastest but the benefits from the newer tech are def there.
Ran 3:07 Seville marathon in the elite racer, my shoe of the year, before that was rocket x v1. I have the new elite v2 still prefer v1 but will race upto a half in them
Great initial review Andy ; I have put over 200 miles in my pair, have run multple races in the shoe this year everything from The Manchester Marathon (over 20 minute pb) , down to local 10k's , multple PB's and while that is largly due to training the shoes have not hindered and that is what I suggest people take home about this shoe. As I am about to retire the shoe (keep for emergancy rainy day races) , Is that it is a dependable/durable race day shoe that will ensure your fitness is reflective in the run. It will not give you 4%, however it will take care of your muscles and provide a light stable platform for you to perform at your best. I have had one problem which is down to me I get a blister at the base of my left big toe anytime I take this more then 12 miles at sub 8 minute miles .. does not matter if I use talc or what socks I use.. (or tape) , its something about how I fall and toe off on my left (KT tape helps alot around the toe) , I had to mention it , but also hand on heart I believe it is unique to me. Next to the Takumi Sen 8/9 this IMO is the best price /performance shoe out at the moment for a non elite runner.
@@geert574🤣 I said retire not throw away, there is a difference . But to be fair I have never had a shoe that went over 500, perhaps its my gait , or the fact that I am the lightest I have ever been as an adult and still 187lbs ? all I can say is good for you 👍
This is much faster in my honest opinion… the plate and the extra stack make it a bit snappier and faster, but both do still feel quite low profile compared to some other shoes!
This shoe is available now in Argentina in Puma Store ❤ I still have an similar colour model the Faas V300 Usain Bolt (one yellow/one blue) thanks for the Review.
Hmmm I only just bought DN2 ... I have struggled to feel any pop in other similar shoes like saucony speed range or pro or nova blast etc... I am a fore front striker but they all feel dead. I have brooks hyperon 1 and puma velocity nitro 2 which feel more lively than other plated shoes. Which is strange since my go to trainer is brooks ghost. Anyway the Puma DN2 is first shoe that seems to give a bounce/pop 😁 so seems promising and reminds me of much first real running trainer a green pair of hi-tech with pop from late 70s .... Well for at least couple runs till foam bounce Disappeared LOL
I have this (v2) and (v1). V1 was lighter, more of a racing shoe. V2 has a more "confort" upper and outsole rubber is now PumaGrip vs Puma Grip Lite in v1. This can be a racer for some, especially if you are racing in rainy weather (great traction) but I agree, I am more inclined to use v2 as a fast trainer.
I would not see this as a racing plated supershoe, but more as a solid tempo/speedsessions and longrun trainer. Similar to the regular Deviate Nitro 2. But if someone is looking for a more traditional feeling racing shoe, then this is definitely a good pick.
I use the regular nitro for speed/tempo/long runs. Do you think it's worth splitting the work between nitro and nitro elite? Or perhaps just replace the nitro with the elite as it ages out? (I imagine that I'd want to use a full-carbon plated shoe for the rare races I might do, but I can't see myself the more novel super shoes. And I imagine the elite would give me just a bit more of a pop than the regular nitro.)
@@reeltaiwan The Deviate Nitro Elite is more of a tempo shoe for me, I would not really use it for easy/recovery runs. For those the regular Deviate Nitro is better. But surely, you could do all of your training and racing in the Elite if you want.
I have the first version and I mainly used them for tempo runs, interval workouts, hard effort parkruns and steady paced long runs. Wouldn’t use them for racing
The supertrainer Deviate Nitro 2 bottoms out very fast at longruns for me and outsole material is to hard for road for me, which makes it a very unforgiving ride. Have quit longruns 5-10 km before I normally would in it. If Deviate Nitro Elite is at all similar it is not for me.
I took it out for a run for the first time since ages, purely for the grip on wet roads. I really like it when going full out, and/or charging up hills, but it doesn't do slower pace well at all. It is indeed pretty unforgiving, and doing intervals I'll feel like I have a plank strapped to my feet on the recovery...
I have the Deviate Nitro 2 also. I don't bottom out. In the Deviate Nitro Elite 2 I feel the plate under the heel when running fast PLUS midsole is so soft that I bottom out I am a heel striker and this is the only shoe that gives me low back pain...
Hello Hello! I would like to ask you if can advise me about the size. I see that EU 41 is 26.5 length but at my Takumi sen 9 EU 42 is 26.5 so I am kind of confused about what the actual size to order. I really appreciate your content. All the best to you!
I have the first version and just love running in them. I took them on my 2 week holiday in Spain as I can just do everything in them. They feel smooth at easy pace too which my vaporfly 2s just do not. Is that the actual colourway Andy? One red one blue? 😂 not sure I'd have the balls to wear them but equally love it! 😂😂😂😂 great review as usual big man.
I have the original deviate nitro elite and the elite 2 they are a fantastic training shoe and generally pick them up on startfitness on the “cheap” £90-100 I wouldn’t race in them if it was a A or B race but I’ve done summer cross country in them!
I haven't used V2 but V1 is a very comfortable shoe..unfortunately it doesn't have enough forefoot cushioning for me if I use it on blacktop or concrete..it is great as a dirt road or light trail shoe as well as a golf course/cross country racer..good traction and flexible enough let my feet feel the ground..
The Nitro Elite 2 is placed as a trainer not as a racer. But I was really interested in it as a beginner of race running and if it was a viable option to get into Carbon shoes as a amateur racingshoe.
There is the deviate nitro 2 and the deviate nitro elite 2, these elite 2 are meant to be the racing version of the normal deviate nitro 2... and I would say these are definitely a great first carbon plated shoe to own, theyre fantastic!
Nice review! I think the same about puma. The brand is using a carbon plate, but it s not a shoe for a race. The deviate nitro (not elite) have a plate too, but the carbon plate does not works. Asics made simple shoes with carbon plate that really works for a race. The same in the top of list of adidas.
I have the Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 2. Very comfortable for wide feet. However.. Being a heel striker, I mostly land on the heel area. Because the midsole is so soft I bottom out.. I feel the plate on landing 🙄🙄 It's the only shoe I get back pain from after the run.. Twice... I can only attribute it to my crash landing on the heels. Amazing you mentioned the Rocket X.. They did not work for me as well..
I have the deviate nitro elite v1s and I do really like them, not quite as good as my Vaporfly 2s or endorphin pro 3s for race day, but I am sure in my UK8 they are lighter than the VP2s and EP3s I have, strange in your size the version 2 is heavier
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I think that’s a very fair assessment. I’ve recommended this shoe to a friend who was wary about the more extreme plates shoes. She loves them.
Would you like red or blue? Yes.
Just nooo ! oddsies🥺 people at parkrun with odd socks are bad enough but this is off the scale.
Haha!
Love the hair cut!
It’s good for walking?
No
Ok thanks
I bought these because for the price (140€) I felt these would definitely fill the "racing day shoe" for an amateur runner like myself. Only did one run with them (5k) and I felt great, improved my PR by a whole minute. Of course at 24m 5k effort there's still a lot of room for improvement but I feel these will be helpful for quite some time :)
What were you wearing before that? I'm working the same pace
I love the deviate nitro 2, one of my favourite daily trainers especially running in the rain :)
Hi andy,ive got the nitro elite v1 100 miles on them so far and going strong..love the nitro elite foam so responsive..gret review!👍
Perfect mid-pack training/race day marathon shoe! Love mine 65 miles in.
The PhD from labratrundown tested version 1 and found it to be more efficient in terms of economy than many shoes except the AF, VF, SE elite but comparable to the Asics shoes and better than Adidas, New Balance etc. Interestingly Alex Filitii measured his efficiency with a Stryd pod w/ a bunch of shoes and version 2 was the best then Nike and the rest. The Puma may not feel the fastest but the benefits from the newer tech are def there.
Thats really interesting to hear!
Good morning. Interesting description about the Puma D.N. élite 2. Like to Andy. Have a great day.
Most underrated shoe of the year imo
Ran 3:07 Seville marathon in the elite racer, my shoe of the year, before that was rocket x v1. I have the new elite v2 still prefer v1 but will race upto a half in them
Awesone shoe I ran 16:42 5km in these lastkm was 3:08 ! I love Puma!
adidas adios pro3 are heavier but a lot of victories in high lavel races with top racers ...Hi Ady!
Great initial review Andy ; I have put over 200 miles in my pair, have run multple races in the shoe this year everything from The Manchester Marathon (over 20 minute pb) , down to local 10k's , multple PB's and while that is largly due to training the shoes have not hindered and that is what I suggest people take home about this shoe. As I am about to retire the shoe (keep for emergancy rainy day races) , Is that it is a dependable/durable race day shoe that will ensure your fitness is reflective in the run. It will not give you 4%, however it will take care of your muscles and provide a light stable platform for you to perform at your best. I have had one problem which is down to me I get a blister at the base of my left big toe anytime I take this more then 12 miles at sub 8 minute miles .. does not matter if I use talc or what socks I use.. (or tape) , its something about how I fall and toe off on my left (KT tape helps alot around the toe) , I had to mention it , but also hand on heart I believe it is unique to me. Next to the Takumi Sen 8/9 this IMO is the best price /performance shoe out at the moment for a non elite runner.
u burn through shoe in 200 miles? what the hell are u guys doing I do like 3000 🤣
@@geert574🤣 I said retire not throw away, there is a difference . But to be fair I have never had a shoe that went over 500, perhaps its my gait , or the fact that I am the lightest I have ever been as an adult and still 187lbs ? all I can say is good for you 👍
Good review yourself..
Brilliant feedback buddy, this is great to hear, Im sure a lot of people will find this useful!
Been using my pair as daily trainer and on my recently concluded 53km Altra Ultra marathon.
LOVE this shoe! pricewise also hard to beat!
nice review! can you please do the puma fwd? It would be absolutly amazing! Thanks!
Thanks! I will try at some point 👍
They are a bit narrow anf gave me hot spots after 16 miles
Ah gutted! Sorry to hear that!
Are you sure aboui the weight? Takumi sen - Asics magic speed 2 and some other is around 215 and 180 grs.
Do you think these will go on sale soon? These may be my first carbon plate shoe. I love the Nitro foam in my Velocity 2s and Deviate Nitro 2s.
Is this shoes good for me If my weight is 60kg and I running in pace 3:40-4:45? And race in 10 km under 40 minutes?
Thank you for the detailed review. How does the ride compare to the Brooks Tempo?
This is much faster in my honest opinion… the plate and the extra stack make it a bit snappier and faster, but both do still feel quite low profile compared to some other shoes!
This shoe is available now in Argentina in Puma Store ❤ I still have an similar colour model the Faas V300 Usain Bolt (one yellow/one blue) thanks for the Review.
Hmmm I only just bought DN2 ... I have struggled to feel any pop in other similar shoes like saucony speed range or pro or nova blast etc... I am a fore front striker but they all feel dead. I have brooks hyperon 1 and puma velocity nitro 2 which feel more lively than other plated shoes. Which is strange since my go to trainer is brooks ghost. Anyway the Puma DN2 is first shoe that seems to give a bounce/pop 😁 so seems promising and reminds me of much first real running trainer a green pair of hi-tech with pop from late 70s .... Well for at least couple runs till foam bounce Disappeared LOL
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I have this (v2) and (v1). V1 was lighter, more of a racing shoe. V2 has a more "confort" upper and outsole rubber is now PumaGrip vs Puma Grip Lite in v1. This can be a racer for some, especially if you are racing in rainy weather (great traction) but I agree, I am more inclined to use v2 as a fast trainer.
I would not see this as a racing plated supershoe, but more as a solid tempo/speedsessions and longrun trainer. Similar to the regular Deviate Nitro 2. But if someone is looking for a more traditional feeling racing shoe, then this is definitely a good pick.
I use the regular nitro for speed/tempo/long runs. Do you think it's worth splitting the work between nitro and nitro elite? Or perhaps just replace the nitro with the elite as it ages out? (I imagine that I'd want to use a full-carbon plated shoe for the rare races I might do, but I can't see myself the more novel super shoes. And I imagine the elite would give me just a bit more of a pop than the regular nitro.)
@@reeltaiwan The Deviate Nitro Elite is more of a tempo shoe for me, I would not really use it for easy/recovery runs. For those the regular Deviate Nitro is better. But surely, you could do all of your training and racing in the Elite if you want.
I have the first version and I mainly used them for tempo runs, interval workouts, hard effort parkruns and steady paced long runs. Wouldn’t use them for racing
think I'll pick em up next month I like how they look dirty and I got a city 10 mile run to flaunt them in I hope it fits well with all my ultraboosts
The supertrainer Deviate Nitro 2 bottoms out very fast at longruns for me and outsole material is to hard for road for me, which makes it a very unforgiving ride. Have quit longruns 5-10 km before I normally would in it. If Deviate Nitro Elite is at all similar it is not for me.
I took it out for a run for the first time since ages, purely for the grip on wet roads. I really like it when going full out, and/or charging up hills, but it doesn't do slower pace well at all. It is indeed pretty unforgiving, and doing intervals I'll feel like I have a plank strapped to my feet on the recovery...
I have the Deviate Nitro 2 also. I don't bottom out. In the Deviate Nitro Elite 2 I feel the plate under the heel when running fast PLUS midsole is so soft that I bottom out I am a heel striker and this is the only shoe that gives me low back pain...
@@theghostofpcs2391Yes agree, good at all out, but not good at marathon speed or slower
@@i.p2088Yes , similar to my experience
Can confirm that it's not for easy and recovery paces. It feels hard and unforgiving at slow paced for me but it's pure fun at faster paces
Hello Hello!
I would like to ask you if can advise me about the size. I see that EU 41 is 26.5 length but at my Takumi sen 9 EU 42 is 26.5 so I am kind of confused about what the actual size to order.
I really appreciate your content.
All the best to you!
what size did you get?
What’s with the colourway 😂
I have the first version and just love running in them. I took them on my 2 week holiday in Spain as I can just do everything in them. They feel smooth at easy pace too which my vaporfly 2s just do not. Is that the actual colourway Andy? One red one blue? 😂 not sure I'd have the balls to wear them but equally love it! 😂😂😂😂 great review as usual big man.
Thanks buddy! Yes thats the colourway!
I have the original deviate nitro elite and the elite 2 they are a fantastic training shoe and generally pick them up on startfitness on the “cheap” £90-100 I wouldn’t race in them if it was a A or B race but I’ve done summer cross country in them!
I haven't used V2 but V1 is a very comfortable shoe..unfortunately it doesn't have enough forefoot cushioning for me if I use it on blacktop or concrete..it is great as a dirt road or light trail shoe as well as a golf course/cross country racer..good traction and flexible enough let my feet feel the ground..
The Nitro Elite 2 is placed as a trainer not as a racer. But I was really interested in it as a beginner of race running and if it was a viable option to get into Carbon shoes as a amateur racingshoe.
There is the deviate nitro 2 and the deviate nitro elite 2, these elite 2 are meant to be the racing version of the normal deviate nitro 2... and I would say these are definitely a great first carbon plated shoe to own, theyre fantastic!
Nice review! I think the same about puma. The brand is using a carbon plate, but it s not a shoe for a race. The deviate nitro (not elite) have a plate too, but the carbon plate does not works. Asics made simple shoes with carbon plate that really works for a race. The same in the top of list of adidas.
Maybe the plate in the deviate nitro 2s is more for stability since it's loaded with soft Nitro foam.
@@davidmcquade4743 David, did you try the puma elite 2? I need a light shoe but with a little more of cushion than the asics magic speed 2.
Would you recommend this for racing day half marathon
It could definitely be a half marathon racing shoe 👍
I have the Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 2. Very comfortable for wide feet. However.. Being a heel striker, I mostly land on the heel area. Because the midsole is so soft I bottom out.. I feel the plate on landing 🙄🙄 It's the only shoe I get back pain from after the run.. Twice... I can only attribute it to my crash landing on the heels. Amazing you mentioned the Rocket X.. They did not work for me as well..
who the hell lands on heel? thats a you problem, shoe is designed for normal people 😆
@@geert574 Normal is overrated
I have the deviate nitro elite v1s and I do really like them, not quite as good as my Vaporfly 2s or endorphin pro 3s for race day, but I am sure in my UK8 they are lighter than the VP2s and EP3s I have, strange in your size the version 2 is heavier