PUMA DEVIATE NITRO ELITE 3 vs THE REST - VAPORFLY 3 + METASPEED SKY PARIS + ENDORPHIN PRO 4 - EDDBUD
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PUMA DEVIATE NITRO ELITE 3 vs THE REST - VAPORFLY 3 + METASPEED SKY PARIS + ENDORPHIN PRO 4 - EDDBUD
Today another video in the VS THE REST series, a new type of comparison, one running shoe in an out and out battle against many others!
This video compares some popular super shoes including the NIKE VAPORFLY 3, ASICS METASPEED SKY PARIS & SAUCONY ENDORPHIN PRO 4
I score the shoes directly against each other on upper, midsole, outsole and value.
PUMA, SAUCONY and ASICS running have sent me the shoes in todays video but they are not vetting my views before my valued viewers get to see them. The other shoes i have purchased with my own cash.
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Edd Budd. The only running youtuber you could spend all day in a beer garden with.
Not many of those round here. But occasionally found in one especially if there is football on.
Agree completely
Still love my Deviate Elite 1's, my favourite 5K race shoe is still the Vaporfly 2's, prefer to my 3's
The de1 was a mega underrated model.
The durability of the new nitro elite foam seems way better than any other race shoes. I'm actually seeing the heel outsole wearing out before the foam seems to degrade
Yes same here. It lasts for ages. Way better than most
Got the Deviate Nitro 2, so perhaps a Deviate Elite for next year. Gotta keep the rotation rotating 🤩
Felt my foot slapping up and down with the vaprofly 3, they feel flatter than all the other options (didn’t try DNE) saucony feels good on a long ride. ASICS feels responsive from mile 1 to 13
I feel the VF3 is almost a negative drop. It’s weird.
@@EDDBUD so many better options, for cheaper too
Of course you would love the Metaspeed Sky Paris. I recently got the Edge Paris, and it has that same godawful smell as Pwrrun PB! 🤣Fantastic shoe though!
The smell has lessened a little now. But still there!
@@EDDBUDI want to buy the Paris because they look so good
Like the SM58 reference 😂
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Dankeschön 🙏🏼 This word is always my highlight 😄👌🏼
Thank you for this perfect information! Very much appreciated!
Just a comment ❤
I ❤ Team Puma
Thank you Edd.
Very welcome
Fantastic comparison. I ❤️ the saucony endorphin pro 4. Like to EDDBUD. Have a good day.
Thanks for watching!
Helping the algorithm!
Asics metaspeed sky Paris is a super shoe!
Got me 1:25 in my first HM with them. Definitely the best from all the running shoes atm.
Great running!
@@EDDBUD thank you. I am a beginner but I might catch the running bug.
Just like 4 bazillion other people, I too once used a SM58!!! Thanks for another great review Edd!!!
Thanks for watching!
Once again an easy to listen to review! Thanks Edd.
My pleasure!
Nice honest comparison. Danke schoen!
Thanks for tuning in!
AWESOME 🤩
Thanks 🤗
this is the exact video I needed. Thanks Edd.
Glad it helped!
The Saucony pro4 has good breathability and comfortable upper..the forefoot is too thin for serious long distance racing, but I used it for a mixed terrain 5k and quite often for medium pace training..the nike and the acics got nothing for me..the puma isn't available here yet but I intend to give it a try..
Puma should appear on July 1st
Ran PB marathon with Metaspeed, but last six miles were brutal on feet. Just got Puma. Feels more stable and comfortable. Can’t afford any more racing shoes. Happy Puma was cheaper
Yeah glad to see them buck the price trend
Great comparison, cheers!
Thanks for watching!
I'll definitely be buying the Puma DN Elite 3. It's a reasonable price but I'll wait till it is discounted. I think the true test on performance is when you actually race in it because a lot of 'super' shoes can feel great but might not deliver the performance you were hoping for in terms of times and achieving a PB and just get relegated to a workout shoe. I can't believe Mizuno are selling the Neo Vista at the same price as the DN Elite 3 in Australia. The HOKA Cielo X1 is $100 more expensive ($420AUD) and has sold out in a lot of sizes! I must be poor or people are spending way too much and it is become a status symbol in the running world to own certain shoes? At least the first part of the comment is true.🙂 Thanks for the comparison review Edd. 👍
Nice 🎉
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Great summary, Ty.
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@EDDBUD Thinking about your comments on ZoomX durability, I pulled a pair of 2019 Peg Turbos out of mothballs and ran 8 miles in them yesterday - still soft, still cushiony, still bouncy, five years and 1000+ miles later.
Oooo. I think you've just put me awft the sky Paris if I have to baby it. Stopped with Nike. Not sure about saucony's pellets, so putting the puma at the top of my wish list!
Very thoughtful and informative comparison of these shoes, and the SM58 ref was nice.
Even used it on a kick drum at a push
I'll be picking up a pair of the pumas but cant wait to watch your review on the new nike peg turbo.
Hope that releases soon
The Asics Paris Sky is The best❤!! But the Puma Elite 3 I must have, OCD😂😂
It’s a great shoe. Bit more traditional than the fast r 2.
Want to try these!
Interesting take on the VF3 being painful for those with flat feet - I have flat feet and bunions and the VF3 is the only shoe in my collection that never gives me any issues. The upper is soft and flexible so doesn’t rub against my bunion (hello Adios Pro 3!) and the midsole moulds perfectly with my feet. I find them absolutely spot on. Was considering the Edge Paris but if it’s narrower and has a stiffer upper then I may just buy another pair of VF3. Horses for courses and all that. 👍
Interesting. I have all four of these as well-actually 3.5 because I have the Edge Paris, not the Sky-and I would agree on some things but not about the softness of the Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 3. I mean, it’s soft enough and very, very responsive, but I wouldn’t call it compressive. At least not until I really pick up the pace. It comes to life the more I really think about attacking the ground. For me, it’s a 5k-15k racer that could maybe stretch to half marathon.
Maybe I’m just too small a guy to really put the optimal amount of force into that midsole. 🤷♂️
And oddly enough, my Edge Paris is holding up better than all the rest except for the Puma.
On price, in the US, the Endorphin Pro 4 is actually cheaper than the Puma by $5. I know Saucony’s prices are ridiculously inflated in the UK though.
Interesting. My pair are really compressive
Great video Edd.
Right now I'm about to start a half marathon cycle. I have the Sky Paris with few km and the Endorphin Elite the same. I will compete with one of those two (I think the Saucony is more aggressive and just as comfortable). Because of what you have said in this video, I will train with something very comfortable and durable like the Endorphin Pro 3 or the Adios Pro 3 and I will leave the other two to choose from in the competition. Thanks for everything, from Spain.🤟🤟🤟🎸🎸🎸🎤
Sleek, vigilant puma - Principal of the Roads
The pumas mid sole looks similar to the vaporflys on the design
It’s not far off that. Different type of foam altogether though
@@EDDBUD nice!
I love your this comparison format.
Suggestion for next video: E Speed 4 vs Valkyrie Speedworks, DN3, Magic Speed 4, Hyperion Max 2 🎉🎉🎉
great work Edd 👍🏼
Thanks for watching Al
For the first time in my life, I'm about to invest more than 200 euros in a pair of running shoes. It doesn't have a Deviate 2 or Velocity Nitro 2 outsole for mixed terrain and trail runs, but I feel this is the right choice. To be faster without a significant loss of durability.
It’s a real banger. Love it so far
Helping to fight the algorithm
Nice work, very helpful thanks!
I'm finally ready for some new shoes, those Puma's have got my interest.
Funny way to lace that Saucony shoe, had to do a replay, looked very uneven.....
Yes I experimented with a different lacing option. It kinda worked. 🤣👍🏼
DNE3 seems to be a banger at the lowest price of all the mentioned. Considering Puma's quickly go on sale makes it even more tempting. Thanks
The last version took a while to get discounted. This one is seriously up there with the top shoes
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Sky Paris and Alphafly 3 way better Ed, let's not kid ourselves 😅
Than the alphafly? It’s still not my choice 5 or 10k shoe and much heavier.
Don't drink all the kool-aid. Those are not always the two best shoes. They're going to be beat inevitably. This shoe may be it
Have the ASICS and I don’t dare train in them. Done two 5k’s and the wear has accelerated on the heel between the first and second races. The second race was a brutally hot road race and felt like the soul was sticking to the road but some how I was faster. The Puma’s could be a good training/ racing shoe with more durability.
I remember running a 10k in the previous version and feeling the rubber stick too!
It’s really useful you putting up the measurements, especially in the heel width area. The AMSP(I had the edge, put same measurements I’m assuming) is just too narrow in the heel for me, so it’s either wait for the next drop of AP3 or get the PDNE3 for my marathons.
The Puma is a banger. A fun shoe to run in at any pace
@@EDDBUD I’m gently introducing myself to puma by purchasing the deviate nitro 2 yesterday for £92.65 with a little discount👌. It that works well for me as a daily trainer then I’ll get the elite 3 for racing.
Puma are not shy of having their shoes on sale. Will try this shoe and replace my endorphin speed 3 when times come. Hopefully puma has more cushioning
I think you may have just talked me into buying a pair of puma 👌
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In Aust, Puma DN3 Elite $320, Nike VF3 $330, Asics MSP $330, Saucony EP4 $340. All competitively priced.
This Aus prices?
@@EDDBUDthat has to be $1USD=$1.50Australian Dollar
Btw - they got through but a draw to Slovenia. The three lions better pick up the pace.
@@EDDBUD Yes, Australia. The Regular Retail Price from the brand websites. In USD/earth credits at today's conversion rate, they would be Puma DN3 Elite $213/£168, Nike VF3 $220/£174, Asics MSP $220/£174, Saucony EP4 $226/£179
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Thanks for the comparison. I did my first run in the Vaporfly 3 recently and haven't experienced the baggy toebox/upper issue that you have. In fact, it feels much the same as the V2. However, I do believe that quality control/inconsistency issues exist across all the brands. For instance, between my wife and I - we own five pairs of the Puma Velocity Nitro 2. Of those, two pairs were perfect - just the right balance of responsiveness and cushion, plus supremely comfortable straight out of the box. Whereas the other three pairs were firm and not particularly responsive - even after trying to break in over and above 60km. Odd and also very disappointing!
Interesting. Maybe a change in the foam or something? I had only the 1 pair of the vn2.
Hey Edd! Fordy Runs would love to have you as a guest on his live stream show.
I’m up for that!
Looks like a banger! Any thoughts on it against the Alphafly 3,s? Great vlog Edd 👏🏽👏🏽
Like the 3 but it’s a marathon shoe for me only.
@@EDDBUD appreciate the feedback 🙏🏾
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At the moment my Vaporfly 3 are treating me well. May get another pair as a daily trainer, but I'll see what the Streakfly 2 and/or Zoomfly 6 are like.
Interesting! Odd mix! ...I would suppose that Puma shoe vs that Saucony shoe is a contest, and VF3 vs MS Paris is a good contest... but all four against each other seems an odd mix... not sure if they fall in the same bracket! Metaspeed Paris is out of their league!
But then you have already done all the seemingly in-bracket comparisons!
Mainly shoes recently released in this video
Edd does the elite 3 fit the same as the elite 2?
Similar. A little more room up front
@@EDDBUD Thanks Edd! I bought the Devi8 2 and Elite 2 because of your recommendation and I never buy Puma, you haven’t let me down yet! Keep up the great content!
Puma 🔥
Vaporfly, not Vapordly... but, on another note, disappointed by the Vaporfly 3 (not just the upper either), felt the Endorphin Pro 3 was very ordinary so not tried the 4 and the Metaspeed Sky Paris is superb and my fave shoe of 2024. Very tempted by the Puma, may wait until the price drops, if it does!
Good spot. Amended.
Are the EP4s good for 5/10Ks/HM as well as marathon paces? My speed 3s recently fell apart (out sole peeled away during a run at about 350miles) and I’m looking to maybe upgrade to carbon. I really liked the feel of the speed 3s.
Found it almost too much for cushion on the 5k pace. Better as the distance increases
Great comparison video. Unfortunately this shoe is nowhere to be found in the UK as of now. Only womens version available. What is the official release date?
July 1st
@@EDDBUD Cheers!
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Tuning in is much appreciated 👊
Good to get an update on the sky paris. How far have you run in them and are they still as fast as when new?
Almost 100 miles now. Still feel good
Hey Edd, loved the DNE 1 I found them to be quite fast but a little bit too squishy. Do you think version 3 is a faster more responsive shoe???
It’s still squashy but more a viable marathon option now. Super light too
@@EDDBUD 👍👍
Super useful! Quick question, in terms of versatility / all rounder, would you rank the Nitro Elite 3 above the Endorphin Pro 4? Thanks
For me the Puma fits a little better and there’s less shoe to lug about
@EDDBUD Thanks! Would you say it works alright for slower paces too?
@@vanguyen don’t see why not. The pro 4 is a little more firm as such better for that
@@EDDBUD thanks very much!
I'm a SM57 man myself 🎤👍
The 57 will do anything! Fav was under snare then a beta 57 on top.
@@EDDBUD nice 👌
Which would you recommend for a 5k?
The ASICS for me is the lightest and most nimble for that
Ahh, the question is for an all around trainer - pretty much done with the Superblast in terms of mileage(excellent all around for me) taking your advice and saving the sky's for races (and now doing longer with AF3 and shorter with TS10) but for another all around to prepare for marathon training coming up - wait for SB2 or try DNE3? Never ran in Pumas before.
The ASICS is the performance winner. But it’s not going to last as long as the Puma
Yes - I'm afraid of seeing your post and maybe only getting 200 miles on the sky if I'm lucky - I thought it may have more durability like the SB but o guess it can't to keep the weight down - have races in July and august and September to get an auto qualifier for next years NYC marathon but I think I may be burning up my sky Paris' in the process multiple 10 milers and a 12 miler - the rest are 10k. Maybe just alternate the af3 for long runs but hate letting the sky's just sit there - they have done quite well for me so much I think I prefer them to the adios pro 3. Also did the soar summer solstice in SB's - so I can afford some soar gear and get a 95 quid gift card. That too will hurt my wallet 😂
@@042766 The Adios pro 3 was superb for durability.
Also, do you know when Adios Pro 4 comes out? I can't afford all of them that why I turn to you for advice! 😊
Really looking forward to getting the DNE3 on foot. I used the DNE1 on a trail race thei weekend and it was spot on. The Pumagrip was brilliant on dry trails.
People really overlooked that one
DNE1 my fav for fast intervals and 5Ks.. I wished only for higher stack, and laces near toes and ....DNE3 came up🎉💯 let Puma 🙏 produce a lot of these cats!!!😅
Hi Bud, thanks for your video. I currently have a Puma Deviate Elite 2 and the Asics Metaspeed sky plus in my rotation. The Asics is a newer shoe and it had been easier on my leg. The puma is a shoe I find it fun to run at and often can do good result with my 10k-15k distance. However, anything close to half marathon distance I found my puma would result to more tired legs after. I love both shoes anyway as I don't mind suffers a bit after as long as I enjoy my run.
I am preparing for a marathon this Nov. and am thinking of getting a new pair of shoes either the Puma Deviate Elite 3 or the Asics Metaspeed Sky Paris. I run an average pace of 5.20 min/km. How would you recommend which pair I should take on and if I should be using it as my rotation before race day in Nov. I do hope the new pair would still shine on the race day in Nov. though. i.e. I found my puma is not as bouncy after ~600 to 800k after and if put it in my rotation would it deduce the freshness on race day.
The Puma might be a better bet at this pace. The ASICS is that bit narrower and less of a trainer type feel
Upper wise, if you can fit in the Metaspeed no problem then do you think the Puma would be fine?
Yeah should be ok
Sir how is nike peg flyease tightness? Is their tightness is good for long term?
Not sure on the flyease. Haven’t tried it
Would you race in DNE 3 or the Sky Paris?
Either. I see the Puma being more durable though
1 for the Algorithm 😉
Dear Puma, don't know why you stick with the blocky upside down swoosh that looks like it was first drawn by a 5 year old with a black crayon. Can you let it die and just give us the cat? The worst application is like you have here on the DN Elite, where it flops over the midsole with no thought to the design lines of the shoe. It's less ugly in the regular DN3 where it flows up from the top of the midsole, but it's really not a logo that improves your shoes' appearance in any way as far as I'm concerned.
No comment about the huge NITRO on the inner side? 😂
@@PVCanciu I thought I had ranted enough...
Genuinely surprised at this. I used to get teased for having Puma football shoes with their actual puma logo. I'd be a lot less interested in their shoes if they replaced the current logo with that.
I am looking for a new racing shoe (10km) and I was looking at the Puma Deviate Nitro elite 3. But now I read somewhere that you cannot replace the insole. Is that true? That would be such a pity. Thank you.
Seems to come out with a little warming up of the glue
@@EDDBUD Thank you very much for checking it out.
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Is the Puma Elite 3 "softer" than version 2? 😊
Yes more foam and a softer version of it
I'm 77kg 196cm, my pace is 5min to 6min/km. Does DNE3 work for me, or does it require faster pace?
The wider base on the Puma or Saucony will be beneficial.
@@EDDBUDwow, thanks for your quick reply!
Is the Puma shoe true to size or need the next size up.
True to size for me
Going to save up for the puma/ get some earth credits off the wife 😂but I have just got a pair of the mizuno pro for £45 off vinted with 80 miles on them .
You also know Shure SM58? How about Shure SM7B which is the TH-camrs mic?
I am a little confused as to the use of that one. It’s not really needed for such close proximity. Prefer the use of a large diagram condensor mic for my videos.
@@EDDBUD LDC requires a good insulated room.
SM7B requires higher gain amp (usually 58dB range. And it requires the talker to "eat the mic", lol. Which is mostly used for podcasts and talking head videos.
Are you using a shotgun mic? :)
@@DarkPa1adin either an old Toa shotgun or whatever is to hand. The room is full of wood ( ceiling and cladding ) thick carpet. Good recipe for decent sound 👍🏼
Asics
What's your pb for 10k edd
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Shure SM58 😂😂😂
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Hi Edd, does the Puma elite 3 have similarities with the Saucony Endorphin pro 3? Keep up the good work….
Not as dense. More squash to the foam. Feels a bit lighter too.
@@EDDBUD thanks 👍. I saw the Puma underneath outsole and placement of rubber / gap prompted the comparison. I guess peba pellets in Saucony are a point of difference to a slab of nitro foam.