2020 Honda Civic Type-R | Tire Rack's Hot Laps With Randy Pobst | MotorTrend
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- The Civic Type-R is a be-winged and be-scooped 300-horsepower monster that’s changed the standards of front-drive performance cars. This year? It’s back with a few tweaks to make it an even better machine at the limit. To really push those limits, Tire Rack is fitting the Honda with an uprated set of tires, Yokohama ADVAN A052s, on downsized, 18-inch FLOW ONE F1 wheels. First, we’ll set a baseline time with the factory set, then see how much time the ultra-sticky Yokohama’s get us. Let’s go! #honda #MotorTrend #TireRackHotLap #Ad
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Longest tire commercial I have ever seen.
Huwaylaan Ore Tire *and wheel* ;)
Yeah, not a huge fan of the 2-act play to insult the viewer’s intelligence instead of just explaining what they did ahead of time re: providing a different package for the track. Whatcha gonna do...that’s American infotainment for ya. I DO wonder though, as a proud (but not arrogant) American...as a chicken-or-egg question; did this method of idiot pandering generate a country of dumbasses or did the latter necessitate the former?
Yes it was and MT has to make some money somehow. ;)
Exactly, makes the result suspect.
yin shah I am questioning and we never know. 🤔
Randy is a cheat code. He's a championship pro level driver, and a darn good automotive journalist to boot.
Randy Pobst is a top notch driver and I would love to have his knowledge and experience driving cars on the track. Thanks for all you do Randy for the car community!!♥️✌️
He is a super nice and down to earth guy too!
Thanks, Steve, many thanks to Tire rack for this opportunity
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I was a bit surprised by the change from a 20 to an 18 inch wheel. But the good news is that it did make the Type-R faster around this track. I'll still never forget how fast the old Integra Type-R was. Not in a straight line but around tracks. They were fun to drive but alas we've moved on and cars have gotten better and better over the last couple of decades.
Randy Pobst running hot laps=Immediate thumbs up before watching the video. Anyone else notice the huge door ding in the rear drivers side door 😣
Finally they fulfilled my wishes by fitting some proper tires and even comparing the two. Love the A052 as well. Thank you!
WOW!!!! Great video and education!!!!! This is the perfect high-performance family car!!!! Excellent canyon carver !!!! Definitely worth your time and homework. Thanks for sharing.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! GREAT VIDEO RANDY!!!!
Keep going sir! Love ur episodes.
01:32:92 is really fast for a relatively cheap car.
This is faster than:
- Viper SRT-10
- 997 GT3 RS
- R8 4.2 Quattro
- 997 GT2
- Ariel Atom 3
- Gallardo Spyder
and within 1 second of:
- Viper GTS
- M3 (F80)
- Gallardo Superleggera
- Corvette Z06 (C6)
fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow-springs
Great vid. Those 18’s are so much better
Was it just me or did i hear him let off on the last lap.
For that lap the sounds didn't match up with where he was on track
th-cam.com/video/Vu4UCF0yWhs/w-d-xo.html Jensen Huang after selling RTX 3000 meme
@@jamesshives5679 yeah noticed that too esp on the second hot lap, editing done by a non-enthusiast it seems. Also at the end of the SC6 lap, a shot with the Advans crept in also.
You guys are sharp, blame the editor. I noticed the sound drop off at end of Yoko hot lap too. THose tires are very sticky!
Real nice👌
Nice review~
Had a chance to drive Yokohama A052's on a friend's BRZ at Buttonwillow. The grip from those tires is amazing, seems to be right up there with 71R's. Not surprised they were that much faster than the stock Continentals on the CTR. Great tires.
I love this guy.
More videos like this with comparison from stock tire to sticky tires.
You want more ads?? No thanks
@@michal.laskowski. so you would prefer no videos or data at all?
@@NoahBB i prefer journalism not advertising and marketing
@@poolplexer I got some ps4s tires for mine once I hit 11k on the oem ones.
@@Joe_Friday yeah thats what mileage i was at when i switched to the ps4s
Thank you Randy for the review! I did tested my own 2020 Civic Type R on the track too. I love it. Haters got on me for saying I liked the stock tire. Lol but look Even a Pro driver shares the same opinion as me. Haters gonna hate. 💯💁🏻♂️
That's true. That stock Conti is a sticky stocker. Shoulder takes a lot of wear.
the stock sportcontact 6 is a great tire but it's soft sidewalls were my biggest complaint.
Fun car to drive 👍🏻
255/40/r18 A052 has a 9.4in tread width. That tire is severely undersized on a 18x8.5in Wheel. It would be better suited to a 10in wheel width. Probably would’ve saved up to a second+ on time. Not to mention they like camber for best wear characteristics. Though that may just be due to incorrect wheel/tire sizes. You want the tread width to align with the wheel or a little smaller than the wheel width for good sidewall preloading for better traction brake away characteristics and on center feel.
Randy was alot more talkative around the first lap and set a pretty good time. He really had to concentrate to get the time down on the second set of wheels. He kept mentioning he liked the first tires and in the end said they were more comfortable
Lol randy you are the best 👌
Thinking about buying a next gen type r as a daily that I can track this video helps a lot
What did you get
Nice driving Randy
I saw 2 Type Rs today, most I've ever seen in a day.
I've seen 3 in one day and I live in Estonia
In Canada these cars are pretty common. No surprise there
Imagine wanting one and seeing 2 on either side at a stop light 😆
@@GianniEndo wow
@@shieksty wow
I have the older version of these on my gen 1 crxsi b16b. theyre great. probably get these this year.
That's a fantastic lil car, VTEC CRX, oh yeah
Sir, what type of gloves do you suggest for Autocross in hot climates? Also do you get hot in your track suit? Thanks
no michelin pilot sport cup 2 r? they come in 245/35zr20 which fits the civic r
would be interesting to see how they match up with lower unsprung weight of the 18s
edit: treadwear on mpsc2r is 140 vs 200 on the 18s
My dream car😍😍
It's a blast for sure. It leaves a lot to ve desired for straight line speed but it handles like crazy.
@V S I doubt he would. It's kinda lioe me saying a zl1 1le would be my dream car. It's somewhat within range if i wanted bad enough but it would be a terrible financial decision. I mean if money was not an object i'd rather step it up to an nsx and a type r variant if they ever make one.
@V S bruh
@V S Why?
Great driving Randy as always and I always appreciate his casual commentary while driving 100+ miles. You can tell this guy is a pro! I still don't take for granted the fact that Honda has given us a Type R here in the US and this FK8 Type R is phenomenal. It makes some "supercars" nervous at a fraction of the price and with a whole lot more practicality and reliability. I know because I own a 2019 Type R and LOVE it! MotorTrend, if you have not already please post a chart with all the times of these "Hot Laps With Randy Post" so we can get some perspective and if you did, post a link to it in the description. Great to see what a difference good tires make. Hope to see more of these segments.
I am glad Randy had a good experience with Tire Rack. I bought 2 tires there and it was the worst tire buying experience I have had. I will not be going back. Be ready to not get what you asked for and get what they think you should have.
I wonder who can rev match the CTR better, the CTR or randy?
The sound of the engine, at times, did not match what was happening. Not shocking on a F&F movie, pretty shocking on MT.
to be fair this car is pretty quiet so they probably pipe stuff into the mix in the edit so we don’t get bored
Love it... wrong-wheeled drive.
Wish there was a couple version
I just reviewed one on my channel this week and I still have the car, the OEM wheel and tires really do not give what this chassis can offer the car I have on hand has 18s with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S and it feels incredible. The grip and balance is up to much higher degree with more predictability .Nice this was a suggested video today to confirm what I talk about in my video.
Best sports car for 18 years old
WATCH OUT FOR THAT CORNER!
😳 o too soon!
😅 just kidding! 😂
Randy is getting it... wish he would take my R out and see what he thinks 😁
Is your modified? My warranty on line expires in a month (2017 model I got in October of 2017). I thought about a flex fuel kit with a new intercooler and nice tune.
What brakes do they use in 2020 version?
This is the type of info enthusiasts want
Thank you!
were these runs done with the A/C on?😕
In a class of its own... in the United States. Fortunately we also get the much less aesthetically challenged Renaultsport Megane RS option for a similar on the limit fwd performance/experience.
Those replacement wheels have a much different offset 32mm vs 60mm stock. There's now way that didn't affect handling in some way.
Cool video but I would like to see more of the Civic then Randy.
Yeah, me too!
Great driving as usual. I LOVE this car! Sadly I heard a rumor that Honda is ending production of the Type R in 2021 so if you want one I would not wait much longer.
where did you hear that? I know coupes are confirmed ending production but have not heard anything about the Type R ending production as well
@@nate2946 I heard it from youtube car reviewer "Drivers Only". I hope it is not true so more people can experience this car but with the upcoming unrealistic regulations placed on gasoline powered cars, it makes sense. If you notice, many car manufacturers are producing some of the best high performance gasoline powered cars that have even been made right now including the upcoming 2021 Type R Limited Edition. It is like their last "hail Mary" before they are unable to make these cars anymore :( You can thank all the out of touch and greedy politicians for this one.
@@StandingUpForBetter If that's the case I may hold onto mine. I was thinking of selling it.
@@Joe_Friday Definitely, hold on to it, There is a reason why Honda Civic Type Rs hold their value.
@@StandingUpForBetter you mean all Electric ⚡️
Soon 😳
what was the time for 2019 model?
I don't know that they've released any times for it.
I remember when mt had an article explaining if you put smaller wheels on a type r that it would slow the car down. Clearly that was written in error.
Depends on the tire. These are smaller but they're 200 treadwear tires.
I was thinking about that while watching this too, but I'm pretty sure it was Road & Track. I think the takeaway was that you had to find a wheel that would mimic the stock offsets exactly otherwise you could risk ruining some of the magic Honda engineered into the front end. This was basically a TireRack commercial though so I wasn't surprised not to find any detailed analysis or even basic info about the wheels and tires aside from the names and treadwear.
www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/buying-maintenance/a25683452/smaller-lighter-wheels-hurt-handling/
Was that article about the modern Type-R?
@@WarriorsPhoto i think the offset thing still applies
Shaiyan Hossain Tire offset or...?
Wow
Jesus that was one of the longest tire commercials I’ve ever seen lol. They must be paying Randy well for him to stand out and pretend it’s some sort of performance video. I wonder if I could call and get that same Tire Rack guy on the phone. Something tells me probably not lol
I'm curious, how many warm-up laps did you do before each hot lap?
One, just went straight out. Also, 105 deg F. Tires pre-warmed by high desert summer.
Would have been nice to know wheel weights and wheel tire combo weight.
This was edited like trash...everything out of sync. Amateur grade. Not much look at the car on the 18's, shame on that. Glorified tire commercial that was executed pretty poorly. Love seeing the Civic go fast, but the video really comes up short.
I agree did not show much side view of the car 🚗 with 18” 😞
With the same tires and wheel weights, what is typically faster an 18" or 20" wheel?
I too would like to know.
The 20" slows you down when you have to stop and put on a spare after the first pothole
@@ChoPi-Eww haaaaaaa
It's like they saw me looking up tires last week and made this video just for me
I got some slightly wider ps4s tires for mine once the oem tires wore out. They grip great and have 3xs the life span.
Joe Friday yep I’ve been on 18” PS4S for a while, got about 30k miles out of them. The OEMs were nearly done at 12k, lol
@@antnyneveruploads I put mine on the stock wheels. Hopefully they'll last just as long.
Why does he keep looking at the camera when he talks lol
I am here for the civic, I don’t need to see anyone else. The hood view with audio is perfect. 👍
Cause it's polite. Eye contact. Shows I mean what I say. Stable car, plenty of time to look at camera in places on Big Willow.
I can beat the Time any day of the week
Bring it.
I almost jumped out my chair and threw my phone when they took the camera off the front on turn 8 , That's the money shot there and you really can tell alot about a car and it's setup by how it takes it . Then they did it again w the other set of tires!!! This video was not about the car at all obviously but the advan and its improved times
You know your an O.G. when you just speed dial a New set of Rims & Tires from the middle of the track.. Randy you a PIMP ..keep killin it man 👍👍
I trust Honda Engineers more than a Tire Rack's guy.
the hood scoop does not provide air to cool the engine. It ducts the air out thru vents behind the front wheels along the side of the car. Its for areo.
Can I ask why the 18 wheels are better the the first equipment?
Why not use the 20 wheels with sticky tires?
🥇
You lot over the pond kind of stuck on the 18's!! But In the uk not so much i believe
Good lap by Randy. I usually run 1:31.45 with sport soft tire...in GTSport.😁
I wondering why didn't go down to 19 and put the cup sports 4 on.
Would of been the perfect balance corning and suspension feel.
Blob Ho Yoko paid more for the add!
because the correct 19" wheel is off the NSX and tire rack doesn't sell them, that's why.
I’m sure
Isn’t the hood scoop for aero, not engine cooling?
Probably a combination of both. This motor runs HOT!
Do Subaru wrx Sti series white
isnt this track on nfs prostreet
Honda used to make the cleanest looking cars now they are looking a bit wild.
Pobst! I haven't seen a video from you in a while. Hugs :)
Hey, man, glad to be back, thx Tire Rack
I can't believe that a FWD 2L turbo car can show lap times of M3/Alfa Q4
I'd be curious to see how A052s run on stock wheel size.
May not be available in 20's?
@@randypobstofficial first of all thanks to replying to me you da man! If not A052s in stock size maybe stock make tire on 18s and compare to stock 20s?
Hello viewers,
I am deciding between the 2020 Golf GTI and the civic type r and am struggling to choose one. You guys can reply stating which one you would chose and why. I am also curious to see which one is faster 0-60 and 1/4 mile so if you know, feel free to let me know
I drove all 3 and bought the Veloster N. Definitely the most fun to drive car of the lot.
The better comparison is the Golf R, not the GTI. completely different classes of car.
I'm surprised he has cellphone reception at WSIR. A good 18x9.5 weighs around 19 lbs while the 20" is definitely heavier with more rotational mass.
They didn’t talk about how changing from a 20->18 really messes with the suspension geometry
It does not as long as you keep the offset the same.
Different diameters only affect gearing now suspension geometry.
@@kaiwenli3432 I didn’t hear anything about Offset ?
Not if you keep the overall diameter in the same spec as stock. 255/40/18 is the same overall size as a 245/30/20. Just a taller side wall.
after tires car is also great lol
Background Music Please. ???
I can’t believe the mustang ecoboost had the same time as the type r
Good chassis, lots of tire, lots of torque. Now has Focus RS engine, good power.
Music????
Ich bin mit der Conti Bereifung an meinem FK 8 sehr zufrieden . Deshalb sehe ich auch überhaupt keine Grund einen Reifen-oder Felgenwechsel vorzunehmen . Das Video um 3:53 zeigt niemals einen Conti Sport Contact Reifen mit Original Felge . P.S.Bei uns in Europa knackt bestenfalls ein Michelin Pilot Sport Cup2 eben diesen Conti . Und das wenn , auch nur hauchdünn.
fk2のってますが、ホイール変えただけでストリートユースでは、バランス崩れます。リミテッドだと何も変える所ないでしょうね。
Phone call was unnecessary
It’s one second faster to get down to the tire store to pay your $4000 new tire bill
You can get a set of sticky track day tires for $1000. LOL
@@gwcrispi tru 😳
Says first gear a little long for turn 3 and he is going 55mph... What kind of first gear is this?
And how's the tyre wear in comparison? If the Yokohamas wear out much faster (as I suspect) it wouldn't make much sense for a street car that you take on the track once in a while.
The stock SportContact 6 wear absurdly quickly. Many owners get 10-15k miles from them.
@@taylorasbury4980 IC, thanks!
Is that a tyre review?
Its like he braked at the ending
Yeah, sound edit a little funky. I never lift 'til I absolutely have to!
This track is a very bumpy track. Makes sense that the 18 in wheel put down a better time, with more sidewall. On a smoother track, the 20s would accel.
Good Randy and Motor trend team, I am not surprised with dumb TH-cam reviewers being critical of Civic Type R turbo, the new NSX, and All Honda products. But I am tired of hearing the same stupid repeating of style which is functional like Porsche 911 GT3 and GT2 but for far less, or not appreciation of advanced engineering to let a powerful front wheel drive car beat others around many race tracks and street. It's like a negative poison that reached even to a veteran like you to say something good, but spit out some of the poison. Facts are Honda products overall have places to improve, but far better overall than competitions.
Not sure if it’s a Type R video or a tire video.
1.5 seconds, not bad, would like to see how much faster it would go on a set of Bridgestone Potenza RE-71Rs.
A052 are as fast if not faster than re71r’s
CUP 2 will do 2.5 seconds faster
Oh Yokohama Mama, I like the idea of less rotating mass. Reminds me of the idiots who put truck wheels and tires on their daily driver passenger car and can't figure out why they lose performance. Lol Mo Metal vs Les Metal.
Hot lap? Hot hatch? Is this foreshadowing about the car overheating?
You are required by law to say “hot hatch” at least three times when you review a car like this.
I miss Laguna Seca :(
Laguna Seca is a good track... But this isn’t Laguna Seca...
What Randy is to car sceen, is like what Jesus is to religion
Is the type r still overheating on track?
2020 model fixed issues...new brakes and new front air aero
@@theluminary5324 I've seen other youtubers that track their Type R's report they still have overheating with the 2020 models though.
@@petest3410 Interesting...the ones I saw were 2019...guess those guys are super hard drivers :)
@@petest3410 it overheats but you have to be pushing it hard and/or for an extending period of time
for most normal applications its fine with an upgraded intercooler
@@ShaiyanHossain issue is I'm looking for a track toy and live in AZ. Last track day out was over 100 and that was at night.
I think you could make the argument that it _is_ a turbo race car.
Regular guy in 2013 carrera s 5! six seconds seconds slower ...than a honda. But it is Randy Pobst.