I'm sold on the WR450f, definitely not an experienced dirt rider but have rode a few times. Love street riding but this seems more than enough to have fun on and go adventure with.
Our stock 2019 Wr450f’s in Australia come with the ecu, switch and the smartphone connection from the factory and they also come with all the road legal bits
Robert they come with the competition one and the dealer you get the bike from will most likely remove the throttle stop and Intake restriction for you
Sounds like it was choking to death stock. Great side by side comparison! Just bought a 2019 yesterday with 7.4 miles on it and all options you installed plus CCU. Supposedly 65 HP at the axle. I had an 07 450F before. Have watched a lot of your videos. All are very informative and a great watch! Thanks a lot! So shiny I hate to get it dirty - not really :)
I bought this same bike back in September. I've done everything but the ECU. It is now winter were I'm at so I have some time to put some money off to the side for that. I believe this is the first best video I've seen on the 19 model. Thanks for your vid.
Does this still work for older yzs wit fcrs the throttle screw . I have 03 Yamaha Yz450f and just feel like she wants more . Can you do videos on the first gen Yamaha 450s please please. No body has good info for the 03 450f .
Well, I got a 2020 WR450F. At first, I thought it was a monster and a big mistake. However, after riding it today fir a little bit, I feel very comfortable and happy with my decision. I had the dealer install the GYTR ECU kit before hand. This kit installation includes the throttle stop, air box and exhaust mods. This way, it saves me from having to do and have the peace of mind that it was done by a certified Yamaha technician. For those interested, my dealer charged me $190 for the 2 hour installation. Before I use the bike again, I need to decide on how to monitor my hours/miles for regular maintenance. There are several options available such as, the standard hour meter or the GYTR CCU. However, what about the multi-function display that comes with bike? According to the owners service manual the came with my bike, the maintenance intervals are measured in miles or months. Do you use the multi-function display to monitor your regular maintenance? Thanks again,
glad you hear you like the bike. I usually run aftermarket hour meter for maint.. but you can also do miles, as long as you stay consistent and do frequent oil changes you should be fine
As for my stock silencer, I just removed the inter end cap and spark arrester. I'm interested if the GYTR ECU, map switch, and CCU is worth the $540 investment. It's too bad that we can't get chassis dyno results after every mod, like if the $900 full exhaust system really worth the money.
I rode the bike already and its a day and night difference! I will have video out soon. Personally I think you dont need $300 CCU, bike runs so well on GYTR ECU. so the total investment is around $900, exhaust system is $650, ECU $149 and map switch $91
Our WRs 450 come stock with wifi tuner app compatibility and bar map switch Rado😏 Good work seems you get a more restricted version than we do downunder. Instantly sounds much better with the new header and silencer eh, was it GYTR or FMF u used 🤙
01AceAlpha Yes I know he says FMF but he’s holding a GYTR silencer so I am confused, is the header FMF? or is it just a reference to FMF as an option and compete exhaust like the ECU is GYTR is all I’m asking, not trying to be critical at all just asking the question.
Dirt N Iron Ah no we just get a slightly different specc by the looks, less restricted, you guys get bikes cars and mods parts and access to parts we can only dream of especially the cost you can buy them at, also the market for second hand bikes especially 2 stroke you have so many more options again peanuts to buy compared to silly money people want for bikes here. Watching Sema recently we couldn’t legally do much of what you guys can do to your trucks and that is changing fast too with the greenie govt movement., don’t get me wrong we can still have fun, but the fun police are strong here. we can’t rebuild a bike anywhere near the cost you can or get access to the suspension companies engine motor gods like Jay, Varner, etc we have guys sure but suspension not as many options and higher costs , you win buddy, ay one time we might have had a land access advantage but that is fast changing as well as the Nazi fun police take over govt as well.Plus the price you buy your WR at you can do those mods and still be ahead, GYTR exhaust system prob set you back here $1000 bike is 15,000 AUD by the time you do suspension though the stock Yamaha’s are very good, would only be a spring rate at most, you could easily be knocking close to 20k for a fricken dirtbike and they wonder why cars and bikes are dropping like flies with new sales, car brands here have dropped by 40% in sales numbers lowest sales in 40years for some brands, bikes are struggling too though Beta will have a great year in 2020 you can’t get an RE in the first shipment all pre sold and base models doing well. If the industry doesn’t wake up soon it’s going to take more the CPR to revive when they realise what’s happening.
Which website did you order the ecu? I have a 2021 wr450f and I’m having trouble finding one. Only place I seem to find it is on ebay and I’m a little iffy about ordering it from there.
I have a 2020 450fx. I would really like to know if i can buy a factory headlight and switch setup for this bike and use it without having to mod the harness. There is an unused plug by the air filter I suspect might be for that.
hola amigo, donde puedo conseguir el kit - ECU competition para mi wr450f del año 2017, se me quemo y ya que lo debo cambiar talvez lo haga por ese. gracias.
Yes its a great bike, i used to have 2004 which is the same bike and I loved it. Make sure you do all the free mods, runs amazing after that. I have videos explaining all the mods and how to do them.
hmm.. I did not try to make it lighter, not sure what is the best way.. remove some stuff.. but you need most of it.. it can get expensive if you get into light aftermarket parts
Do you have an idea on what maps are on the gytr Ecu? I have the same set up now but not sure which tunes are #1 and #2 on the switch. Does one hit harder than the other? Or are both the tunes relatively the same?
Do you know if 2020 models need the same mod? Since there is no CCU needed - it can be mapped with smartphone. I've also heard 2020 models already will come to life when you remove bong from the airbox and baffle from the exhaust. Not even sure if there is this throttle stop screw. And since you did the whole exhaust - what do you think if you only did slip-on - would it be the same or you would still need the whole exhaust?
if they can be mapped with smartphone then you dont need new ECU, just map the one you have, do all the free mods and I think slip-on would be sufficient.. thats what i would do
Hey Master ! So for the map switch what are the differences is one map for racing and other for trails ? You mentioned the ecu comes with 2 so was just wondering if I need the switch
Dirt N Iron so blue light on will be standard and lights off trail mellow ride ? I just did all the mods you recommend but my only question is that blue light on/off lol Thank you master
when you linked up to the ecu with your phone did it bring up 2 different maps? im having issues with finding these 2 maps all i see in the ecu is zeros
Hi do you know if removing the snorkel increases intake noise? I'm no sure I need any more power either...but I do have GYTR ecu and exhaust so figured I should "let it breath in" as well.
hello, I have 2007 wr450, I tore down beginning of 2021, reassembling I simply cant remember where the long ground connect from the battery goes. any help?
I've been undecided between a 2020 YZFX and WRF for weeks. However, its looks like I am now going with the WRF since its more easily converted to being street legal than the YZFX. These mods have steered me away from the WRF but I would rather do them then having to install lights on a YZFX. With the 2020 WRF, when you install the GYTR competition kit what is the default map? Is it the same default map as the YZFX? Would I also need the GYTR Communication Control Unit as well? If so, what would be the purpose? I'm not interested in the map switch. I don't want to switch between maps when riding, I want one map for everything. Plus, I don't want the extra button on the handle bars. I have to figure all this stuff out fast since there is only one of these bikes left. Its at dealer that is 400 miles away from me and the next closest dealer is almost 1700 miles away. That is dealers, with a reasonable price.
you can get just the ECU, it will come with standard map that is very good, I was really happy with it.(not sure its same as fx, but its good) Switch is cheap and allows you to get mild map for gnarly stuff, but its not a necessity. as for the CCU, you dont need it, if you dont want to use your cellphone to tune the bike. GYTR ECU was plenty good for me. Good luck
@@dirtniron Thanks for the very helpful information. Yes, I can see the reason for people wanting the map switch for the reasons you pointed out. For me, I would rather have one map that fits all. Maybe, down the line I will get the map switch but most likely, I will pass. If I understand correctly, when adding the map switch you get an additional stock map that is mild. However, you can't change either map without the CCU. The stock, standard map that comes with the GYTR ECU sounds good to me. Yeah, I don't feel the need to tune the bike with the CCU. The only feature of the CCU that I find useful is monitoring the hours. Although, Yamaha makes an hour meter which seems like a better option for me. Thanks again and great channel, keep up the good work!
ecu comes with two maps, one stock is always on and second one is accessible with the switch, you dont need CCU in order to use these 2 maps. Only ECU and switch and you have 2 very good maps for different conditions. Honestly, I was most of the time in stock map, but once or twice when going up steep rocky section I switched to mild on the fly cuz stock map was little too snappy for those rocks 1st gear slow riding.. I would recommend the switch its only like $60-70 ..
@@dirtniron Okay, now I understand and thanks for the clarification. I don't plan on riding in technical terrain but you never know. Plus, it's not that expensive like you said. You have really helped me out. I tried calling Yamaha multiple times and got no where. First of all, their hours don't fit my 8-5 work schedule and you can't email them. Second, when I do call them on my 15 minute break at work, I'm on hold for 10 minutes and out of time. Last, when I finally speak to someone, they can't answer any of my questions. For example, the person I spoke with last, didn't even know the WRF had a throttle stop.
Hay.. I think that I am encountering an issue with the fan kicking very late , it’s on my 2018 wr450f , I need to know when it should start working , at what temp ? any help appreciated.
Rado - You must inform your viewers that doing the free mods to free up the intake and exhaust without changing the fueling mapping will make this bike run very lean since it has no feedback mechanism or an O2 sensor like some KTM/Husky models have. This is very bad for the motor and is the reason your bike ran like that at idle. It is even worse at peak power and runs your valves and seats very HOT. You will need to do valve adjustments sooner and soon you will have to do a top end rebuild. Always change air and fuel at the same time.
Its a fuel injected bike, it has to have O2 sensor. How else would she be able to adjust the fuel air ratio in different elevations and temperatures. But yea, she needs more fuel to unlock the potential and to run proper. I did show it all in the video, new ecu from gytr is the most important
@@dirtniron unfortunately it is open loop fueling controlled by temperature and atmospheric pressure sensors in the bike connected to ECU. It adjusts fuel based on pressure and temperature
@@dirtniron if it actually has an o2 sensor people won't be able to so exhaust swaps so easily without throwing an error code. KTM FE models have O2 sensor I believe or used to have
So i have a 2019 wr450f in canada, i did the airbox bong removal and decorked the exhaust. now is running super lean and the header pipe after idling for not even 2 mins is super red hot in color. if i get the yz ecu will it fix it from running lean and getting that hot ?
Dirt N Iron so when you did the free mods did you upgrade to the yz ecu and the ccu and the 2 map with the switch ? I just can’t have this thing running this lean and getting this hot.
I did only ecu and the switch, those 2 maps on ecu were really good, i didnt see the need to spend more on ccu. Ecu and switch together are not that much..
@@dirtniron Thanks, I'm going to get the yz ecu and see if that corrects running lean, I cant seem to find the MAP switch in Canada but i'll have to check with my local Yamaha dealer. only reason i was thinking of buying the CCU is to see hr's as the display doesn't track that. but i'll just get and hr meter so I can track my oil changes. exhaust wise you put on the GYTR exhaust. was there a FMF slip on that would work without making it run lean again ?
yes, I had free mods and no extra stuff for some time, it was better than stock but once I did fmf and ecu it was way better. You can take it one by one, do the mods first and then later add those costly updates. good luck! check this video I talk about it and show some clips too: th-cam.com/video/GIXYXQNx5Bw/w-d-xo.html
If so, is it the front, rear or both brakes that light up? I basically already purchased a 2020 wr450f and I'm having the dealer install the gytr competition kit. I'm scheduled to pick the bike up next Saturday with the kit installed. However, I need to know that a brake light sensor call be installed while using the existing tail light to follow through with the purchase. I would be willing to change the tail light bulb but the stock tail light housing and rear fender must stay stock. Otherwise, I wont get the bike. Yamaha said this could be done but they can't give me any recommendations.
i am not quite sure, i think its wasnt coming on with the brake.. not sure.. but honestly I dont think thats a hard thing to do.. did you try to do some research? there are some aftermarket dual sport kits that have all you need
@@dirtniron Yes, I have done a lot of research on the matter. I have spoke with, Yamaha, Rocky Mountain, Baja Designs, Task Racing, Yamaha Service and Sicass Racing. Yamaha tells me it can be done but that's it. They can't point me in any direction for a starting point. Some people say it depends on if there are (3) wires going to the stock tail light. If there are only (2) wires, then it can't be done in the way that I want. Remember, I am waiting this done with the stock tail light assembly. I don't want to mount a different, aftermarket tail light to the rear fender of the bike. That is important to me. I would be willing to replace the bulb and run wires but the stock tail light housing must stay the same. In case you didn't know, I am basically turning the WR450F into a legal dual sport for my protection. Being an Enduro, it's just about there in stock form. I don't need blinkers in the state I live in, just the brake light. This way, if a cop questions me on public dirt roads I would be safe. I plan to ride the bike mostly on dirt and would like to keep the stock tires. Do you ride exclusively on private property? On a good note, the Yamaha dealer is installing the gytr ecu kit for me in advance. The ECU kit provides instructions for all the mods that you mention as free mods in this video. It will include the ecu replacement, throttle screw replacement, air choker removal, and exhaust restrictor removal. Yes, I could do this myself but I rather not. I would feel more comfortable having a certified Yamaha technician do it for me. They are charging me $180 which is fair.
I was wondering if the throttle stop mod is fine to do on a 2020 WR 250F EFI. If I use too small a screw the throttle body won’t hit the screw at all? Wondering if anyone has done this on a 2020??
These are some of the things that I like about the Yams......they KNOW that you're going to go the free mods....then, they make available factory hop-ups the common man can actually buy. The pipe seems extremely expensive to me.....does it really make the difference? Good video as usual...content that a man can use. P.S. On head pipe removal/installation Yamaha gives you a sheet of Japanese swear words to help you...did they send you that? LOL Sounds like the bike comes right onto the cam now with all the mods....might turn out to be a beast for you. Hope I don't see a plaster cast on a leg/arm next video....just kidding....you're a strong young fella.
hahaha, exactly! those bolts from the pipe were not easy to remove and put back on.. I rode the bike already and its day and night difference, the exhaust was choking a lot, just listen to the comparison, its way different. Maybe you can achieve similar result with $350 slip on silencer.. the system I put on the bike is $650
One other thing and probably most important, did you install and rear brake light sensor for your WR450F? I just want to make sure this can be done without having to replace the tail light that comes with the bike. Is this the part I will need? www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/tusk-hydraulic-brake-switch-nissin-brakes-p
Dirt N Iron It must be that, in the UK the WR and YZF models have the map switch and smart phone connectivity stock. I’m trying to decide between the Sherco SEF250 Factory and the new WR250 to replace my 2018 KTM 250 EXC-F...
Be careful doing these mods to your WR450F… This engine is an identical (detuned) version of the YZ450FX, which has much more frequent maintenance intervals (stated in hours) vs. the WR450F’s maintenance intervals, which are stated in mileage. If you do these mods, the higher revving will result in more engine wear, unless you follow the YZ450F maintenance intervals.
not really, having a richer mixture is better for engine life, and this updates are done just to get rid of "emission" limitation and to have more choices of tune. usually on enduro we don't care of top power or high rpm, just want to have good grip, low end grunt. so the bikes are ridden differently, on MX you are full throttle all the time, on enduro we use low speed/low rpm most of time.
I think its abit annoying how yamaha have done that. I mean they arnt cheap to buy then you got to start changing things out the box. And if you want it to work better you got to spend a grand on a new exhaust and ecu. They should be coming out the factory like that working 100 percent to its full ability with the restrictors in a box.. if your in a country where these regulations matter then you can put them in youself. I duno im still going to buy one but it seems backwards to me. If i manufactured a bike and i knew people were going to test it out of the box against competitor companies i wouldnt dream of restricting it to 50 percent of its ability.
Our stock 2019 Wr450f’s in Australia come with the ecu, switch and the smartphone connection from the factory and they also come with all the road legal bits
That air box holds Yamaha's complimentary bong
looks like it :)
I really appreciate how detail you are bro in showing things to us viewers and subscriber. No.1 Fan here from Philippines.
thanks bro, glad you like the video! greetings to Philippines
@@dirtniron your so much welcome bro. I will restore my RMZ when it arrives and i will try to make it awesome like what you did to your RMZ
6
@@dirtniron 8
I'm sold on the WR450f, definitely not an experienced dirt rider but have rode a few times. Love street riding but this seems more than enough to have fun on and go adventure with.
Our stock 2019 Wr450f’s in Australia come with the ecu, switch and the smartphone connection from the factory and they also come with all the road legal bits
Seems our emissions laws are more strict, cant even get them street legal in California anymore...
hey man i live in aus to im getting a 2019 wr450f soon do they come stock with the gytr competition ecu?
Robert they come with the competition one and the dealer you get the bike from will most likely remove the throttle stop and Intake restriction for you
Ok cheers man
Europa's is the same i put a big bore 500 kit on my wr sm 🎉❤
Sounds like it was choking to death stock. Great side by side comparison! Just bought a 2019 yesterday with 7.4 miles on it and all options you installed plus CCU. Supposedly 65 HP at the axle. I had an 07 450F before. Have watched a lot of your videos. All are very informative and a great watch! Thanks a lot! So shiny I hate to get it dirty - not really :)
congrats man, you will love it! glad you like the vids!
After pushing the button how do you know what map you're on one or two do you just go by the feel or will it tell you somehow?
Wow, it sounds and responds much better. Great vid Rado. 🏁👍🏽
thanks Dean, yea its very responsive now, so much better!
Hi, you need to do one more mod, remove the backfire screen and add the twinair powerflow, throttle response will be better at all rpms.
thanks for the tip! I thought about it, saw some airbox cages with no screen online.
I bought this same bike back in September. I've done everything but the ECU. It is now winter were I'm at so I have some time to put some money off to the side for that. I believe this is the first best video I've seen on the 19 model. Thanks for your vid.
thanks man! you will love how it runs with new ECU, I already had some time on it and its such a great improvement!
Definitely looking forward to the next riding season. And the ECU.
The GYTR ECU should be the first mod you do for your bike
Very helpful. I’m getting ready to purchase a WR 450. 2023 model
Good choice!
Beast mode on
for sure!
Does this still work for older yzs wit fcrs the throttle screw . I have 03 Yamaha Yz450f and just feel like she wants more . Can you do videos on the first gen Yamaha 450s please please. No body has good info for the 03 450f .
Well, I got a 2020 WR450F. At first, I thought it was a monster and a big mistake. However, after riding it today fir a little bit, I feel very comfortable and happy with my decision. I had the dealer install the GYTR ECU kit before hand. This kit installation includes the throttle stop, air box and exhaust mods. This way, it saves me from having to do and have the peace of mind that it was done by a certified Yamaha technician. For those interested, my dealer charged me $190 for the 2 hour installation. Before I use the bike again, I need to decide on how to monitor my hours/miles for regular maintenance. There are several options available such as, the standard hour meter or the GYTR CCU.
However, what about the multi-function display that comes with bike? According to the owners service manual the came with my bike, the maintenance intervals are measured in miles or months. Do you use the multi-function display to monitor your regular maintenance?
Thanks again,
glad you hear you like the bike. I usually run aftermarket hour meter for maint.. but you can also do miles, as long as you stay consistent and do frequent oil changes you should be fine
As for my stock silencer, I just removed the inter end cap and spark arrester. I'm interested if the GYTR ECU, map switch, and CCU is worth the $540 investment. It's too bad that we can't get chassis dyno results after every mod, like if the $900 full exhaust system really worth the money.
I rode the bike already and its a day and night difference! I will have video out soon. Personally I think you dont need $300 CCU, bike runs so well on GYTR ECU. so the total investment is around $900, exhaust system is $650, ECU $149 and map switch $91
Bro love your vlogs u do superb restoration love from India
Glad you like them!
@@dirtniron yeah I enjoy watching your vedios 😘♥️💯💪🤤🤤
Should do a 2019-20 yz250fx build. Like extreme enduro build, every mod possible that you can do to it.
I would love that, thanks for suggestion
Good video and to the point. I am leaning more towards the WR
Glad I could help
Our WRs 450 come stock with wifi tuner app compatibility and bar map switch Rado😏
Good work seems you get a more restricted version than we do downunder.
Instantly sounds much better with the new header and silencer eh, was it GYTR or FMF u used 🤙
FMF. 11:24
01AceAlpha Yes I know he says FMF but he’s holding a GYTR silencer so I am confused, is the header FMF? or is it just a reference to FMF as an option and compete exhaust like the ECU is GYTR is all I’m asking, not trying to be critical at all just asking the question.
If you buy a U.S model WR, big brother makes us run California compliant motorcycles even if we don't live in California.
thanks Mav! Looks like Australia has more fun than US ;)
It was GYTR but its a FMF pipe, I guess they make them for Yamaha direct.
Dirt N Iron Ah no we just get a slightly different specc by the looks, less restricted, you guys get bikes cars and mods parts and access to parts we can only dream of especially the cost you can buy them at, also the market for second hand bikes especially 2 stroke you have so many more options again peanuts to buy compared to silly money people want for bikes here. Watching Sema recently we couldn’t legally do much of what you guys can do to your trucks and that is changing fast too with the greenie govt movement., don’t get me wrong we can still have fun, but the fun police are strong here. we can’t rebuild a bike anywhere near the cost you can or get access to the suspension companies engine motor gods like Jay, Varner, etc we have guys sure but suspension not as many options and higher costs , you win buddy, ay one time we might have had a land access advantage but that is fast changing as well as the Nazi fun police take over govt as well.Plus the price you buy your WR at you can do those mods and still be ahead, GYTR exhaust system prob set you back here $1000 bike is 15,000 AUD by the time you do suspension though the stock Yamaha’s are very good, would only be a spring rate at most, you could easily be knocking close to 20k for a fricken dirtbike and they wonder why cars and bikes are dropping like flies with new sales, car brands here have dropped by 40% in sales numbers lowest sales in 40years for some brands, bikes are struggling too though Beta will have a great year in 2020 you can’t get an RE in the first shipment all pre sold and base models doing well. If the industry doesn’t wake up soon it’s going to take more the CPR to revive when they realise what’s happening.
"Probably a bit too much for me on the trails but anyways we gonna take it on the trails"
I like the challenge 😉
Which website did you order the ecu? I have a 2021 wr450f and I’m having trouble finding one. Only place I seem to find it is on ebay and I’m a little iffy about ordering it from there.
What is the difference between the two Maps? Your videos are going to really help save a lot of money
mild and wild, its a noticeable difference
Cool channel bro 👍🏼
Appreciate it! thanks Pedro
What is the New GYTR ecu part number?
I have a 2020 450fx. I would really like to know if i can buy a factory headlight and switch setup for this bike and use it without having to mod the harness. There is an unused plug by the air filter I suspect might be for that.
I would reach out to your local Yamaha dealer
@@dirtniron Thanks. That's probably what I'll have to do
I like the old Vice that thing is a a beast
thanks man ;)
Good video, great bike. Enjoy.
Thanks, appreciate it!
hola amigo, donde puedo conseguir el kit - ECU competition para mi wr450f del año 2017, se me quemo y ya que lo debo cambiar talvez lo haga por ese. gracias.
Looking at a very clean 05 from original owner. What should I look out for? And is it a good year?
Yes its a great bike, i used to have 2004 which is the same bike and I loved it. Make sure you do all the free mods, runs amazing after that. I have videos explaining all the mods and how to do them.
Why don't you buy the YZ450FX? It has the Power Tuner App.
Great vid loved it 👍
thanks Jono ;)
Hey bud does the 2020 WR450F comes with the stop throttle screw as well?
Why manufactor choke it ? I dont understand you can drive a ducati 200 horses on street but not a wr
Of course it's louder with the fmf but you can hear just how much more freely it revs down low especially. Sounds great thing is gonna rip
she runs great!
do you have any tips to make it lighter? because it is much heavier than the yz.
hmm.. I did not try to make it lighter, not sure what is the best way.. remove some stuff.. but you need most of it.. it can get expensive if you get into light aftermarket parts
@@dirtniron okay thank you. I just was thinking this because it is so much heavier than a motocross bike.
That sounds way better after the fmf exhaust is on I bet it’s way more responsive and will have less engine break
Hi mate! Nice video, thanks. Do you think yz 450fx needs something similar?? Thanks again🤙
no, FX is pretty much done already.. have fun and take it easy!
Do you know the size of the throttle screw that you replace the original one with? In MM please.
i am not sure.. you can find it online
Do you have an idea on what maps are on the gytr Ecu? I have the same set up now but not sure which tunes are #1 and #2 on the switch. Does one hit harder than the other? Or are both the tunes relatively the same?
when the light is on its a mellow map, the light off its the hard hitting map
@@dirtniron thank you for your response and great work on the channel..
Do you know if 2020 models need the same mod? Since there is no CCU needed - it can be mapped with smartphone. I've also heard 2020 models already will come to life when you remove bong from the airbox and baffle from the exhaust. Not even sure if there is this throttle stop screw. And since you did the whole exhaust - what do you think if you only did slip-on - would it be the same or you would still need the whole exhaust?
if they can be mapped with smartphone then you dont need new ECU, just map the one you have, do all the free mods and I think slip-on would be sufficient.. thats what i would do
Hey Master ! So for the map switch what are the differences is one map for racing and other for trails ?
You mentioned the ecu comes with 2 so was just wondering if I need the switch
one map is standard. hits hard very responsive and second one is more mellow good for tight technical stuff
Dirt N Iron so blue light on will be standard and lights off trail mellow ride ?
I just did all the mods you recommend but my only question is that blue light on/off lol
Thank you master
when you linked up to the ecu with your phone did it bring up 2 different maps? im having issues with finding these 2 maps all i see in the ecu is zeros
I did not do that on this bike, but 2020 250fx did have two maps preset
Hi do you know if removing the snorkel increases intake noise? I'm no sure I need any more power either...but I do have GYTR ecu and exhaust so figured I should "let it breath in" as well.
The intake howls loudly without the snorkel
I removed it and really didnt notice that much, due to my exhaust being so loud...love this bike!
Can you install and properly use the map switch, ecu and the wifi thing on older model wr450f's? Like a 2015 or older
I think it wont work on 2015.. you might want to discuss with your local Yamaha dealer
Just wandering can you switch the air filter cages are from the other models!
yes, I think you can, or get cage without the screen, it would breathe even better
What size/diameter is the throttle stop screw?
not sure but its easy to find
thank you😁
hello, I have 2007 wr450, I tore down beginning of 2021, reassembling I simply cant remember where the long ground connect from the battery goes. any help?
I am not sure, somewhere on the frame.. pull out the diagrams on rockymountainatvmc
2006 wr450 can this competition ecu be bought for this bike as there is no listing
older wr450 just do the grey wire mod and all the other free mods. Good jetting helps a ton
Is this all applicable to the 250 model??
i think so, majority yes
Hey man is the 2019 WR450f a red sticker bike now in CA??? I was going to get a WR for a green sticker but now I’m thinking to get a YZF then!
yea, red sticker here in CA
I've been undecided between a 2020 YZFX and WRF for weeks. However, its looks like I am now going with the WRF since its more easily converted to being street legal than the YZFX. These mods have steered me away from the WRF but I would rather do them then having to install lights on a YZFX.
With the 2020 WRF, when you install the GYTR competition kit what is the default map? Is it the same default map as the YZFX? Would I also need the GYTR Communication Control Unit as well? If so, what would be the purpose? I'm not interested in the map switch. I don't want to switch between maps when riding, I want one map for everything. Plus, I don't want the extra button on the handle bars. I have to figure all this stuff out fast since there is only one of these bikes left. Its at dealer that is 400 miles away from me and the next closest dealer is almost 1700 miles away. That is dealers, with a reasonable price.
you can get just the ECU, it will come with standard map that is very good, I was really happy with it.(not sure its same as fx, but its good) Switch is cheap and allows you to get mild map for gnarly stuff, but its not a necessity. as for the CCU, you dont need it, if you dont want to use your cellphone to tune the bike. GYTR ECU was plenty good for me. Good luck
@@dirtniron Thanks for the very helpful information. Yes, I can see the reason for people wanting the map switch for the reasons you pointed out. For me, I would rather have one map that fits all. Maybe, down the line I will get the map switch but most likely, I will pass. If I understand correctly, when adding the map switch you get an additional stock map that is mild. However, you can't change either map without the CCU. The stock, standard map that comes with the GYTR ECU sounds good to me. Yeah, I don't feel the need to tune the bike with the CCU. The only feature of the CCU that I find useful is monitoring the hours. Although, Yamaha makes an hour meter which seems like a better option for me. Thanks again and great channel, keep up the good work!
ecu comes with two maps, one stock is always on and second one is accessible with the switch, you dont need CCU in order to use these 2 maps. Only ECU and switch and you have 2 very good maps for different conditions. Honestly, I was most of the time in stock map, but once or twice when going up steep rocky section I switched to mild on the fly cuz stock map was little too snappy for those rocks 1st gear slow riding.. I would recommend the switch its only like $60-70 ..
@@dirtniron Okay, now I understand and thanks for the clarification. I don't plan on riding in technical terrain but you never know. Plus, it's not that expensive like you said. You have really helped me out. I tried calling Yamaha multiple times and got no where. First of all, their hours don't fit my 8-5 work schedule and you can't email them. Second, when I do call them on my 15 minute break at work, I'm on hold for 10 minutes and out of time. Last, when I finally speak to someone, they can't answer any of my questions. For example, the person I spoke with last, didn't even know the WRF had a throttle stop.
What is the point of Yamaha limiting the throttle opening fully?
it has to do something with passing emissions and noise limits I think
Did you have to do any mapping changes once you did these mods?
i used gytr ecu with the stock maps that came with it
@@dirtniron Thank you!
Im going to buy wr450f 2020. So I have a question, what maps did you use before de-restriction?
I did not have a switch before, i used just a stock map on stock ecu.
I like watching u builds can u do another one
yes, of course ;)
Hay.. I think that I am encountering an issue with the fan kicking very late , it’s on my 2018 wr450f , I need to know when it should start working , at what temp ? any help appreciated.
I think around 180-190 is optimal
Dirt N Iron thanks .. your videos and inputs always helpful to me .
Rado - You must inform your viewers that doing the free mods to free up the intake and exhaust without changing the fueling mapping will make this bike run very lean since it has no feedback mechanism or an O2 sensor like some KTM/Husky models have. This is very bad for the motor and is the reason your bike ran like that at idle. It is even worse at peak power and runs your valves and seats very HOT. You will need to do valve adjustments sooner and soon you will have to do a top end rebuild. Always change air and fuel at the same time.
Its a fuel injected bike, it has to have O2 sensor. How else would she be able to adjust the fuel air ratio in different elevations and temperatures. But yea, she needs more fuel to unlock the potential and to run proper. I did show it all in the video, new ecu from gytr is the most important
@@dirtniron unfortunately it is open loop fueling controlled by temperature and atmospheric pressure sensors in the bike connected to ECU. It adjusts fuel based on pressure and temperature
@@dirtniron if it actually has an o2 sensor people won't be able to so exhaust swaps so easily without throwing an error code. KTM FE models have O2 sensor I believe or used to have
What size of T bolt to unscrew the carb bolt?
sorry I dont remember
Do i need to do the same with a 2016 WR450F?
yes, I would recommend to open her up
Great video thank you
Glad it was helpful! Thanks Phil
So i have a 2019 wr450f in canada, i did the airbox bong removal and decorked the exhaust. now is running super lean and the header pipe after idling for not even 2 mins is super red hot in color. if i get the yz ecu will it fix it from running lean and getting that hot ?
Yes, i think that will fix it and the bike will run so much better. Get the switch too, there are 2 maps programmed on the ecu.
Dirt N Iron so when you did the free mods did you upgrade to the yz ecu and the ccu and the 2 map with the switch ? I just can’t have this thing running this lean and getting this hot.
I did only ecu and the switch, those 2 maps on ecu were really good, i didnt see the need to spend more on ccu. Ecu and switch together are not that much..
@@dirtniron Thanks, I'm going to get the yz ecu and see if that corrects running lean, I cant seem to find the MAP switch in Canada but i'll have to check with my local Yamaha dealer. only reason i was thinking of buying the CCU is to see hr's as the display doesn't track that. but i'll just get and hr meter so I can track my oil changes. exhaust wise you put on the GYTR exhaust. was there a FMF slip on that would work without making it run lean again ?
Hey dirt n iron, if I do the free mods on a 2003 so I need to change the mapping?
no, there are no maps on 2003, just do JD jetting and free mods and you should be good to go
@@dirtniron wow thanks for such a quick reply I really appreciate it! Sorry I’m a noob, what’s jd jetting?
is there any negatives to the bike when doing the free mods?
nothing really..
Can I do the free mods only without the extra or will it screw stuff up???
yes, I had free mods and no extra stuff for some time, it was better than stock but once I did fmf and ecu it was way better. You can take it one by one, do the mods first and then later add those costly updates. good luck! check this video I talk about it and show some clips too: th-cam.com/video/GIXYXQNx5Bw/w-d-xo.html
@@dirtniron thanks for the reply!!! I'll be doing the free mods this weekend! I'll give the video a watch as well. Thanks!!
I heard the 2019 and 2020 wr450f come stock with a brake light. Meaning the stock tail light will light up when the brake is applied. Is this true?
If so, is it the front, rear or both brakes that light up? I basically already purchased a 2020 wr450f and I'm having the dealer install the gytr competition kit. I'm scheduled to pick the bike up next Saturday with the kit installed. However, I need to know that a brake light sensor call be installed while using the existing tail light to follow through with the purchase. I would be willing to change the tail light bulb but the stock tail light housing and rear fender must stay stock. Otherwise, I wont get the bike. Yamaha said this could be done but they can't give me any recommendations.
i am not quite sure, i think its wasnt coming on with the brake.. not sure.. but honestly I dont think thats a hard thing to do.. did you try to do some research? there are some aftermarket dual sport kits that have all you need
@@dirtniron Yes, I have done a lot of research on the matter. I have spoke with, Yamaha, Rocky Mountain, Baja Designs, Task Racing, Yamaha Service and Sicass Racing. Yamaha tells me it can be done but that's it. They can't point me in any direction for a starting point. Some people say it depends on if there are (3) wires going to the stock tail light. If there are only (2) wires, then it can't be done in the way that I want. Remember, I am waiting this done with the stock tail light assembly. I don't want to mount a different, aftermarket tail light to the rear fender of the bike. That is important to me. I would be willing to replace the bulb and run wires but the stock tail light housing must stay the same. In case you didn't know, I am basically turning the WR450F into a legal dual sport for my protection. Being an Enduro, it's just about there in stock form. I don't need blinkers in the state I live in, just the brake light. This way, if a cop questions me on public dirt roads I would be safe. I plan to ride the bike mostly on dirt and would like to keep the stock tires. Do you ride exclusively on private property?
On a good note, the Yamaha dealer is installing the gytr ecu kit for me in advance. The ECU kit provides instructions for all the mods that you mention as free mods in this video. It will include the ecu replacement, throttle screw replacement, air choker removal, and exhaust restrictor removal. Yes, I could do this myself but I rather not. I would feel more comfortable having a certified Yamaha technician do it for me. They are charging me $180 which is fair.
would it be basically the exact same for the wr250f?
yes I think so.. do some research to confirm
I learned new words: now I know what Full throttle means 😅.
haha
I was wondering if the throttle stop mod is fine to do on a 2020 WR 250F EFI. If I use too small a screw the throttle body won’t hit the screw at all? Wondering if anyone has done this on a 2020??
I am pretty sure its the same on 2020
Wich grease do you use?
Maxima grease
When u gonna do more builds
very soon, hope this month
These are some of the things that I like about the Yams......they KNOW that you're going to go the free mods....then, they make available factory hop-ups the common man can actually buy. The pipe seems extremely expensive to me.....does it really make the difference? Good video as usual...content that a man can use. P.S. On head pipe removal/installation Yamaha gives you a sheet of Japanese swear words to help you...did they send you that? LOL Sounds like the bike comes right onto the cam now with all the mods....might turn out to be a beast for you. Hope I don't see a plaster cast on a leg/arm next video....just kidding....you're a strong young fella.
hahaha, exactly! those bolts from the pipe were not easy to remove and put back on.. I rode the bike already and its day and night difference, the exhaust was choking a lot, just listen to the comparison, its way different. Maybe you can achieve similar result with $350 slip on silencer.. the system I put on the bike is $650
I am a older fella , they are easy to ride at a good pace , torque them around everywhere . WR gear ratios are excellent.
love my 2014 450 only done 7000kms and already appears a selector/dogs worn on 5th gear =[
oh really, how does it feel? hard to shift?
@@dirtniron no in 5th gear and only 5th it will sort of just jerk rapidly with not even alot of throttle sometimes 1-4th i can hammer without issue
One other thing and probably most important, did you install and rear brake light sensor for your WR450F? I just want to make sure this can be done without having to replace the tail light that comes with the bike. Is this the part I will need?
www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/tusk-hydraulic-brake-switch-nissin-brakes-p
I want to have that WR . i Don't have enough money to avail it .
That’s a lot better!!!
thanks Jim, glad you see you here again ;)
Dirt N Iron I’m back, my friend. No worries. :)
Then when you sell the bike you can put it back to stock easier..
No gray wire mod
thats only for carbureted models, I used all new GYTR ECU for this bike
Do you no if it same for a wr450f 2021?
I am not sure, but probably very similar
This also works in the 250f or is only for 450?
both, 250f too
That sucks, that you can't use your smart phone, to tune, straight out of the box.
yea, that would be nice. I am pretty sure it has something to do with strict US emissions laws
Dirt N Iron It must be that, in the UK the WR and YZF models have the map switch and smart phone connectivity stock. I’m trying to decide between the Sherco SEF250 Factory and the new WR250 to replace my 2018 KTM 250 EXC-F...
Hard go choose, let me know once you decide.
@@dirtniron yeah Rado,
It must be an emissions thing.
In Australia, all that is stock!
Be careful doing these mods to your WR450F… This engine is an identical (detuned) version of the YZ450FX, which has much more frequent maintenance intervals (stated in hours) vs. the WR450F’s maintenance intervals, which are stated in mileage.
If you do these mods, the higher revving will result in more engine wear, unless you follow the YZ450F maintenance intervals.
not really, having a richer mixture is better for engine life, and this updates are done just to get rid of "emission" limitation and to have more choices of tune. usually on enduro we don't care of top power or high rpm, just want to have good grip, low end grunt. so the bikes are ridden differently, on MX you are full throttle all the time, on enduro we use low speed/low rpm most of time.
I think its abit annoying how yamaha have done that. I mean they arnt cheap to buy then you got to start changing things out the box. And if you want it to work better you got to spend a grand on a new exhaust and ecu. They should be coming out the factory like that working 100 percent to its full ability with the restrictors in a box.. if your in a country where these regulations matter then you can put them in youself. I duno im still going to buy one but it seems backwards to me. If i manufactured a bike and i knew people were going to test it out of the box against competitor companies i wouldnt dream of restricting it to 50 percent of its ability.
unfortunately thats not how it works, stock bike needs to meet the standards, thats why it has to come so choked from the factory.
l have a 04 wr 450 f that will smoke that one..
I used to have 04 wr450, that thing was fast.. loved it! here is some footage: th-cam.com/video/FWuceX5TG_Q/w-d-xo.html
in other words, just buy an yz450fx and get a fan!!
Yea kinda.. still have different transmission, suspension and extra headlight..
You talk too much.
this one was quite a bit, as a thumbnail says, its around 10k bike total.. but you can do a nice job with 4k
Our stock 2019 Wr450f’s in Australia come with the ecu, switch and the smartphone connection from the factory and they also come with all the road legal bits
And here in the uk ...just bought 1