I miss these cars battling it out on the racetrack. I loved that these cars all had different voices. This to me was an exciting time in motorsports that is sadly gone.
1:06 Look at the massive aero tunnels on that Jag, with the March transmission hidden up in the middle. Pretty big step forward at that time giving downforce with minimal drag Every car in this video is a work of art!
@damarfadlan9251 I get it, they're great, but at the end of the day open cockpit prototypes from the 90s and the early 2000s look the same, sound the same except they're open. And no one even mentions them like they didn't even exist.
I really appreciate seeing the close ups in the various garages you put in at the beginning. Seeing the machinery with out the body work reveals the things that interest me. Taking my camera through the pits I used to shoot photographs like that and it seem to upset or at least puzzle some crews. Spectators are supposed to take pretty pictures of pretty cars. I wanted to see all the linkages that made up the front wheel assembly or portray the workmanship in the beautiful curves of an exhaust system. They probably thought I might be a spy.
Ok so I nearly had an ... man thing when they fired up the Jag. Too much info I know but so good to hear it again. Thank you for posting, my dog has run off again .....
These are just so perfect! Pure racing cars, different engines/sounds, manual gears, no major aids anywhere to be seen etc. Bring these back! - Where is that damn Delorean always when i need one?... - DDDOOOCCC!!!
I remember seeing these beauties on the Nurburgring GP strecke , urly 90s with Schumacher blowing his engine right in front of us at Muhlenbach tribune ! Those Jags screemed so beautiful , you could feel them in your brest ! Golden days ❤❤❤❤❤
Back in 2014 there was a 767B racing in this revival championship but then I don't know what happened to it. 787B are extremely rare to see in action, they only show up at events in Japan, sometimes at Le Mans Classic or at Goodwood. Plus it seems I'm kinda repellent to Mazda Group C cars :/
@@19Bozzy92 Aren't they also literally dangerously loud? Like, 787Bs were louder than jets on take-off so it's probably, sadly, not a great idea to have 'em flying around deafening anyone within a 500 meter radius lol
@@mooncalf_4534 they were so loud that marshalls at Le Mans had to radio each other just to notify them that the 787B was coming so they could put their hands over their ears, and in a nearby cafe the sheer noise of the R26B made the teacups and saucers fall off of the tables. So yea, it was loud.
Always love to see those drivers trying to cope those monsters in the rain absolute bliss & how about the visual aerodynamic effect due to standing water!!!
Why cant we go back to this sound? These cars today just dont sound as good as these. There was a diverse engine lineup from a lot of manufacturers and it was magnificent. My friend originally did the engine in the Intrepid when it was in the states. I worked on it with him at Daytona several times. Great car. I dont know who maintains it now.
Nice to see they were open to the IMSA GT-P cars also being there. The Chevrolet Intrepid was one of them... even a couple of the Camel Lights cars were included i see... for those who don't know that's the Group C era equivalent to LMP2... Side note, someone needs to find the rear wheel spats for that #3 Silk Cut Jag because it's not period correct without them
8:39 , if I'm not mistaken that is Pink Spice. It was for sale at one point... if I wasn't poor af I would buy it in a heart beat. Like all of these, it's a piece of history, was driven by Desire Wilson/Lyn St James & Cathy Muller in the late 80s/early 90s i think. I find these Group C cars are so much more interesting than modern hypercars and prototypes... maybe the new SGC 007 will make things more interesting.
You can just see why the Sauber C9 was as succesful as it was during the days of group c in this video. It is vastly quicker then any car of its time and you can tell. Albeit, the 787 B, and XJR-12 were right up there with it as they were also championship/ Le Mans winning cars.
787B is a Le Mans winning car but it was never a fast single lap or race pace car. Exemplified by the fact that in the 1991 Le Mans it won its best qualiflying time was 12 seconds slower than the pole time.
Correction... That was the C11 which raced against the XJR12 and the 787... And yes, the 787 were regularly demolished by the Jags and Mercs back then. That car was nowhere in terms of pace. In fact after their 1991 le mans win, the best result they can muster up is 5th in the Nurburgring.
I wonder if there ever comes a moment since this is mostly a showcase and not really a race race, that some of the guys in the Heat of the Moment start pushing it to the Limit...kinda like it was back in the day..who can go faster side by side !
was that the Toyota minolta from gt4? the ones I recognise is the porshe 962 tictac the jags, minolta, Leyton house, I think there is a ferrari amongst them too? the sauber Mercedes obviously, the #8 porshe aswell i think that's it
Car list is in the video's description with numbers to recognise the cars. That Toyota no, it's not as the Minolta in GT4 because that was a 1988 88C-V while the one in this video is a 92C-V from 1992
Yep, they are cars made by privateer teams and small manufacturers with low budget. Since costs to develop Group C cars and race them in the championship were increasing, FIA created a subclass called Group C Junior (later called Group C2). Cars were made slower than the factory 'C1s' but at least those teams could race all togheter at major events. Trying to make a comparison, it's as in the current WEC championship: LMP1 and LMP2 cars
Bozzy i wonder, if ever these cars were put on track, the tyres wear, right? So with that question, do the preservers usually replace the tyre on the wheel as well?
Usually after about 10 years, even unused tyres will crack and wear, making them near unusable, and quite ratty-looking. So most cars, even super-well-preserved old ones, usually get replacement tyres. Seems to be just about the only thing people don't care about not being original!
I miss these cars battling it out on the racetrack. I loved that these cars all had different voices. This to me was an exciting time in motorsports that is sadly gone.
There is still LMP1 but they dont sound as special
@@bottomtext593 hypercar racing may finally change all that.
Group C was the epitome of endurance racing prototypes. So many great cars and a variety of motors: rotary, Flat 6, v6, v8, v10, v12, NA, and turbos.
Look at LeMans Hypercar now , the Peugot 9X8 itself is enough to prove that the rules and regulations allows variety and beautiful designs.
These cars sounded great, looked like space ships. I think this was the pinnacle of combustion engined motorsports.
9:45 Oh man my brain just got overload of that group c goodness.
1:06 Look at the massive aero tunnels on that Jag, with the March transmission hidden up in the middle.
Pretty big step forward at that time giving downforce with minimal drag
Every car in this video is a work of art!
wew... that was erotic
Yes and still have that huge 7.0L V12 engine?
How I love the sound of a V12 at full song.
Got to love the sound of Group C cars! Keep up the great content!
I'll do it for sure!
But ur an lmp and grc is ur direct competitor
@damarfadlan9251 I get it, they're great, but at the end of the day open cockpit prototypes from the 90s and the early 2000s look the same, sound the same except they're open.
And no one even mentions them like they didn't even exist.
@damarfadlan9251 is it because they have open cockpits? Is that the only reason?
God I love these cars. I only wish I was into racing back when they dominated the track.
Oldshool race car sound is the best! I love the mercedes c11 v8 sound a sweet beast!😍
And Jaguar is great too.
The most beautiful racing cars ever!
I can’t decide which engine sound I like better - the thundering Mercedes V8, or the howling Jaguar V12 😍😍
Hard choice, but for me it’s the v12
Love the flat 6 turbo, v8 biturbo and the jaguar v12 🥰 what amazing engines
Back when engines had their own voice and when they were battling it on track they became a choir that created a symphonious melody of nirvanic bliss
Oh God! I miss so much GT4 and my PS2, pls bring this back to me.
DANG Group C cars sound AWESOME! Some of my favorite racecar sounds of all time!
Stunning. Group C 😍🤤
Usual Bozzy Quality
Glad you appreciated it!
I was there that year! I´t was cold and wet and absolutely fantastic!! Thank´s for this upload, it warmed me up. Cheers from a cold and rainy Sweden
My pleasure! Thanks for watching
I really appreciate seeing the close ups in the various garages you put in at the beginning. Seeing the machinery with out the body work reveals the things that interest me. Taking my camera through the pits I used to shoot photographs like that and it seem to upset or at least puzzle some crews. Spectators are supposed to take pretty pictures of pretty cars. I wanted to see all the linkages that made up the front wheel assembly or portray the workmanship in the beautiful curves of an exhaust system. They probably thought I might be a spy.
Yeah it also happened, and still happening, to me too everytime I'm in any garage recording close-ups of the cars and waiting for them to be warmed up
I love the sound of the sauber c9 one of my favorite group c cars.
Love these speed machines. Loving the Jaguar V12 especially using it in GTSport.
Ok so I nearly had an ... man thing when they fired up the Jag. Too much info I know but so good to hear it again. Thank you for posting, my dog has run off again .....
I have this on repeat...as background music
Hell yeah!! Now this is what I'm talking about! I really miss this era of prototype racing. Thanks for the post @19Bozzy92!
Thank you for watching!
When cars weren’t hybrid/electric
grow up
huleyn135
Already grown
@@huleyn135 There is a difference between growing up the right way and growing up the wrong way
I believe both hybrid and not hybrid are good
Rooster tails in the wet is so cool! Plus the sounds coming from those roosters
These are just so perfect! Pure racing cars, different engines/sounds, manual gears, no major aids anywhere to be seen etc. Bring these back! - Where is that damn Delorean always when i need one?... - DDDOOOCCC!!!
Wow, real legends from a glorious time! Thanks for sharing. Awesome stuff.
Yes!
You're welcome! Thank you for watching
Group C was the best in its time, love it!!! pure motor sound, and no artificial backfire shit:) and manual shifting! Nice video!!
Thanks for watching!
Those crazy Prototypes are still unbelievably fast nowadays, hopefully some of that glory can come back from the new Hypercars
The sound is class 🤧🤙🏻🤙🏻
I remember seeing these beauties on the
Nurburgring GP strecke , urly 90s with
Schumacher blowing his engine right in
front of us at Muhlenbach tribune !
Those Jags screemed so beautiful , you
could feel them in your brest !
Golden days ❤❤❤❤❤
I remember when these beasts were cutting edge! What s sight to behold, what sounds to hear.
Never gets old!
The Jag V12 and Sthemo BMW I6 engine exhaust systems are truly work of art. Beautiful tubing!
Wasn't Mazda's 787B part of Group C as well? I missed him a lot on this video/event. That crazy ass rotary sound!
Back in 2014 there was a 767B racing in this revival championship but then I don't know what happened to it. 787B are extremely rare to see in action, they only show up at events in Japan, sometimes at Le Mans Classic or at Goodwood. Plus it seems I'm kinda repellent to Mazda Group C cars :/
@@19Bozzy92 Aren't they also literally dangerously loud? Like, 787Bs were louder than jets on take-off so it's probably, sadly, not a great idea to have 'em flying around deafening anyone within a 500 meter radius lol
@@mooncalf_4534 they were so loud that marshalls at Le Mans had to radio each other just to notify them that the 787B was coming so they could put their hands over their ears, and in a nearby cafe the sheer noise of the R26B made the teacups and saucers fall off of the tables. So yea, it was loud.
@@slowdriver6868 Luckily they also made the best sound ever known to man lol
That Jaguar XJR-14 sounds and looks completely amazing! It almost looks like a 21st century Porsche 917
Fabulous video..........as usual. Love the group C machines!!👍
Thank you so much!
So cool seeing the diffusers at work with the water vapor coming out the back!
Keep on Fighting Michael !!!
amazing era in motorsport amazing machines amazing video thankyou
Super vidéo, comme d'habitude 🙂 J'y étais aussi. C'est le plus chouette évènement à Spa. Le son, l'ambiance, les passionnés...
Once again superb footage, from Bozzy the Best in the business ,
Favourite racecars of all Time :-) Great vid btw
Thank you!
Bozz is such an incredible resource on all-things racetrack kerfuckery. The video description alone is gold dust.
The soundtrack of the Merc-Sauber C9 is pure petrol porn
thats a C11
Always love to see those drivers trying to cope those monsters in the rain absolute bliss & how about the visual aerodynamic effect due to standing water!!!
Great video and sound!
You don`t know where to look first. Great Clip!
The group C orchestra, what a fantastic soundtrack
God I love these cars
87s rarely show up at events that aren't in Japan and even then only at events like Goodwood. You're more likely to see a 67 than an 87
Why cant we go back to this sound? These cars today just dont sound as good as these. There was a diverse engine lineup from a lot of manufacturers and it was magnificent. My friend originally did the engine in the Intrepid when it was in the states. I worked on it with him at Daytona several times. Great car. I dont know who maintains it now.
Yeah!!!! Proper battle between man en machine!!! Love it!!
Beautiful sons V12 V8
That XJR-12 is pure heaven
9:43 What a beautiful sight!
After 11 years and blowing our ears out 8 years ago. He still alive
Nice to see they were open to the IMSA GT-P cars also being there. The Chevrolet Intrepid was one of them... even a couple of the Camel Lights cars were included i see... for those who don't know that's the Group C era equivalent to LMP2... Side note, someone needs to find the rear wheel spats for that #3 Silk Cut Jag because it's not period correct without them
Silk cut ジャガー大好き！
レーシングカーの中で一番好きなエンジン音です！
永遠の憧れですよ！
8:39 , if I'm not mistaken that is Pink Spice. It was for sale at one point... if I wasn't poor af I would buy it in a heart beat. Like all of these, it's a piece of history, was driven by Desire Wilson/Lyn St James & Cathy Muller in the late 80s/early 90s i think. I find these Group C cars are so much more interesting than modern hypercars and prototypes... maybe the new SGC 007 will make things more interesting.
Beautiful cars. Beautiful sound 😍
there is no car that sounds as good as the c11. it's so visceral
Ferrari enter to chat:)
Need to bring these back
Goddamn fantastic audio! Thank you.
Hi and thanks Bozzy 🥰 very very cool 😎 👍👍
Group C face melt. The best racing class ever.
2017, already 3 years ago ^^
im very sad to read (just now on da website) dat the 2020 edition was canceled :(
Are you there this weekend? love to see some video!
Moroso valve covers on a Group C?
I got Moroso parts on my Plymouth. Badass
12:45 sounds really good
Cosworth power 💥💥
What an era!
Outstanding video!
Glad you liked it!
Look at those headers man
altro che hybrid o hypercar: questa era l'essenza del motorsport
God damn I miss those cars.
Beautiful.
You can just see why the Sauber C9 was as succesful as it was during the days of group c in this video. It is vastly quicker then any car of its time and you can tell. Albeit, the 787 B, and XJR-12 were right up there with it as they were also championship/ Le Mans winning cars.
787B is a Le Mans winning car but it was never a fast single lap or race pace car. Exemplified by the fact that in the 1991 Le Mans it won its best qualiflying time was 12 seconds slower than the pole time.
Correction... That was the C11 which raced against the XJR12 and the 787... And yes, the 787 were regularly demolished by the Jags and Mercs back then. That car was nowhere in terms of pace. In fact after their 1991 le mans win, the best result they can muster up is 5th in the Nurburgring.
I was there the year before, they had the peugeot group C then but not the mercedes and only the full purple jaguar
Amazing work bro ! 😍
Thanks mate :)
What is the red car at 0'10''?
Thank you
Gebhardt C91
9:43 me and the boys going to play gran turismo 6 after school
It’s interesting how many of these cars have the alternator hanging off and connected to anything other than the engine :-)
Where’s that Mazda 787b at?? Thanks for this bozzy miss these sounds
Goddamnit I miss this...
I don't know....the flat 6 Porsche, the V8 Mercedes or the V12 jaguar????
God do I love group c cars
Still coolest than modern junks..
1:12 So nice looking Jaguar and that sound!
2:17/4:53 What is that thing?Also that exhaust looks funny:)
Look in description for that info. But it is the Sthemo SM C2, with a L6 BMW engine.
@@Phisker I know all cars are in desc but what cars are on race track?:)
I mean i never see some of those before..
Never realized how much a McLaren F1 looked like this
Some mid week awesomeness!!
I wonder if there ever comes a moment since this is mostly a showcase and not really a race race, that some of the guys in the Heat of the Moment start pushing it to the Limit...kinda like it was back in the day..who can go faster side by side !
Goosebumps.
was that the Toyota minolta from gt4? the ones I recognise is the porshe 962 tictac the jags, minolta, Leyton house, I think there is a ferrari amongst them too? the sauber Mercedes obviously, the #8 porshe aswell i think that's it
Car list is in the video's description with numbers to recognise the cars. That Toyota no, it's not as the Minolta in GT4 because that was a 1988 88C-V while the one in this video is a 92C-V from 1992
Very Nice.
Have you any Information when i can see this beautifull cars in Spa or at hte Nürburgring?
Keep an eye on Peter Auto events. Group C championship mainly (only) races at their events peterauto.peter.fr/en/
That exhaust pipe @0:37 !!!!!
half of these cars I never seen before lol they low budget teams or something? or was low budget teams like a Minardi or Marussia?
Yep, they are cars made by privateer teams and small manufacturers with low budget. Since costs to develop Group C cars and race them in the championship were increasing, FIA created a subclass called Group C Junior (later called Group C2). Cars were made slower than the factory 'C1s' but at least those teams could race all togheter at major events. Trying to make a comparison, it's as in the current WEC championship: LMP1 and LMP2 cars
That charging C11!
The Sauber on Assetto Corsa is borderline impossible.
I wanna drive that sauber 😍
Bozzy i wonder, if ever these cars were put on track, the tyres wear, right?
So with that question, do the preservers usually replace the tyre on the wheel as well?
Usually after about 10 years, even unused tyres will crack and wear, making them near unusable, and quite ratty-looking. So most cars, even super-well-preserved old ones, usually get replacement tyres. Seems to be just about the only thing people don't care about not being original!
@@Spidehman well that's good...
Tell that to the sultan of brunei tho and his 12 McLaren F1's.
@@RosalieValentineCHENG Alright... What does that have to do with tyres, though?
I don't know what's more musical, the Jaguar XJR-12 or Luciano Pavarotti
I fuckin love you man i love group c!
Which event was this? Would have loved to be there
That ex Michael Schumacher Mercedes is awesome
2 words:
RACING. CARS.
Not the shit we have today.
Прекрасно...😍
These are way cooler than f1