if you are referring to wavedashing and l canceling, those are exploits of the mechanics that the developers knew about. real glitches rarely ever come into play
Evan Blenkinsopp they took it out of brawl to make the gap between advanced players and new players smaller. Also, wavedashing and l-cancelling were discovered during development, and Sakurai decided to leave it in.
it honestly shocks me that the cave walls in Venom are actually physical and can intercept the blast zone knew about the laser cannons in Corneria being breakable tho
Not really. They add another level of complexity and balances out a lot of other character's weaknesses. More viable characters make for a more diverse meta and more of a challenge for pro players to adapt to a changing landscape.
Crash Bandicoot staring into your soul dank memes If you played Melee in your childhood without any knowledge of the tournament scene then you must have played on all the stages a million times. Heck if you like the game, casual or pro, you must know all the stages by heart.
Alexander Gomez but thats like the same thing as with alphared or videogamedunkey theyr not realy good at the game but its always funny to watch their videos i think they will grow because they cut the videos realy good and are realy entertaining
***** photonenplayer The melee community... is very... let's call it "touchy" when it comes to their game. Most of them have the "If you're not good, you're not worth my time" mindset.
If "professional" players can calculate the reach of Marth's sword attacks in pixels and predict when Randall comes out, surely they can manage... Getting out of the way for a car (with a large warning sign on display) in Onett. Jumping up when lava rises on Brinstar. Track barrel movement in Kongo Jungle (Both Melee and 64). Avoid giant-ass bullet bills on Peach's Castle. Manage breaking blocks on Yoshi's Island. Know when a car slowly moves off camera in Big Blue. Track a slow-moving camera in Rainbow Cruise. And battle on nigh-completely-static stages like Hyrule and Venom.
the reason the stages are banned is usually because of fox since he can infinite relatively easy against any wall on characters like marth, peach, falcon, etc.
Stages are banned because of walkoffs and static walls for the reason that you can be 0 to deathed way too easily, giving some characters a huge advantage. Stages with stage hazards are also banned because it goes against the idea of competitive play. The point of competitive play is to see who is the best player. With stage hazards, instead of being player vs player, it can very often turn to player vs stage, which can be fun casually, but goes against the idea of competitive play. Thats why so many stages are banned.
Mom: What do you want son? Me: A dragon! Mom: Something more realistic honey. Son: To play poke floats in competitive tournaments! Mom: Color do you want your dragon son?
Got a nostalgia burst out of nowhere, this video is always a joy to come back to. I remember I went out of my way to download it to my phone way back when so I could always have something to watch even if I had no wifi access, and it somehow never got old. Still a great time all these years later.
There may not be one for every stage, but it's pretty easy to predict what was wrong with the layout of the stage. In a nutshell, big stages were running away and lasering, walkoffs were camping at the blast zone, stages with walls were shine infinites, stages with ceilings were survivable to 200%, and stages with hazards were not survivable past 50%.
+you tried It wasn't included yet they planned on releasing it and they haven't made it yet. It just crashes on launch. Reorganizing the SSS takes time it's fine.
y'all are so funny an at the same time good at smash, y'all have good editing and y'all don't feel akward around each other. It's really funny and also entertaining to watch pretty much professional melee players playing, and all the cool combos y'all get. Keep doing what y'all are doing, it's great
melee has a lot of options to customize, would be cool if there was an option for stage hazards to be turned off, then we would have like 12 tourney legal stages.
gamarad Eddie was a ganon main. Ganon mains are the reason why most stages are banned because ganon gets camped hard on unorthodox stages. Like pink shinobi vs rockcrock got dk 64 banned.
No, no, I'm not asking YOU to tell me. I'm asking if they explain it in the video. You know, since the thumbnail literally says, "Why are these NOT tourney legal?"
+Bren Dan Maybe you don't understand how to make a youtube account grow. You start with something basic and grow into your own, it doesn't happen over night.
I think the reason why i like these videos is it reminds me of how I am with my friends. Just some guys chilling out, not taking the game too seriously and having fun. Never change.
Your opinion is dumb. If you want shorter, just watch less of it. This "type of vid" doesn't require you to watch all of it. There's no long-winded explanations in this video so I don't see what you're bitching about.
In the thumbnail of this video, there is a text which says "Why are these NOT Tourney Legal?" but that question is not even brought up as far as i know. To be honest, i don't want to watch 11 minutes of unfunny and unoriginal commentary just to back this up..
Fun Fact: Poke Floats WAS tournament legal a long time ago since it had no stage hazards. Some people found some bugs with the stage like infinite traps and various glitches with the platforms so the stage was promptly banned from all tourneys.
apple to knee is a true combo btw
You're still alive :o
Agreed
@@joaquinpacheco2532 yep
Is he the real papa
And stomp car is too
"Ganondorf is bad"
Correct that is why he's the antagonist
We should have a tournament where illegal stages can be the only ones being played
And only low tier characters can be played :)
Kirby only, poke floats, all items
***** You have to pay 420
+Chris Pham That's called playing the game
Bobby Rare rats!
Apple to Knee = True Combo
the stage got banned because the combo was to good
If this was brought into Smash 4, we could have Apple to Tree!
"I used to be an adventurer like you..."
Christopher Bittinger
Bucket to Fair = True Combo
apple to knee combo is called the fruit juicer
8:36 Wobbuffet used Mirror Coat
Also "I don't care if Wobbuffet is Uber in Gen 3!" *Shows Gen 4 Smogon description*
someone noticed my flaws lol
That profile looks fake...
EvilApple567
TIL YOU CAN BREAK THE LASERS ON CORNERIA
Skimo
Damn you got over 100 likes without a single reply
Wait
Crap
Skimo I did not know u col do dthat
"Are you ready to get rekt" is my inspiration to keep living every day.
i had 4k subs when this vid was out. now were at 1m views. dang. thanks guys :)
You're welcome, Luddy😀
Dream big kids
Your welcome ludvix
Welcome
WOBBA IS GEN 2! But seriously good job.
Melee fans
Melee glitches: they're not glitches what are you talking about.
Every other smash game glitches: this is terrible
Some different opinions - The return but most glitches are useable in the competitive scene
Like the bullshit luigi ceiling glitch
John Velasquez yes, the glitches help. But they're still glitches. If there weren't glitches it wouldn't be as popular
if you are referring to wavedashing and l canceling, those are exploits of the mechanics that the developers knew about. real glitches rarely ever come into play
+Outlaw Star If wave dashing and l-cancelling were intended, why were they never mentioned anywhere in the instructions and then fixed in brawl?
Evan Blenkinsopp they took it out of brawl to make the gap between advanced players and new players smaller. Also, wavedashing and l-cancelling were discovered during development, and Sakurai decided to leave it in.
it honestly shocks me that the cave walls in Venom are actually physical and can intercept the blast zone
knew about the laser cannons in Corneria being breakable tho
I died at "Starving African child".
I think he died first
+Charles Garcia (Supanoobman) rip
+Charles Garcia (Supanoobman) omfg xD
Charles Garcia looking back at this now is hilarious af
TehVilly they do that at like every single bideo
L E G A L I Z E P O K E F L O A T S
Glacidon Marijuana*
Pokefloats is better.
Glacidon I like to high off my pokefloats and play on my favorite map Marijuana.
Glacidon pokefloats was acruallt legal at one point... idek how
actually*
YOU CAN BREAK THE CORNERIA GUNS WHAAAAAT?!
mind BLOWN
WOAH that's a super original profile photo x333333333333
Bruh that pun doe
I used to break 'em with Ness's Up Special, then throw people off that side. heh.
Yeah. In the debug DEVELOP mode, one can see that there are actually hurtboxes around the guns' muzzles.
Melee players who didn't know you can break the guns on Corneria?
Smells like casuals to me.
That's like day one tech, right there.
Oh the irony
Back before I started playing Competitively, I knew you could smack the guns, I never knew you could break them.
+Tri-Volt (Wordoredlink) Profile picture link?
yea cus competitive players would play on a non tournament legal stage. lol what. your logic is so flawed
+Matt Davies
Yep. Almost as flawed as your ability to recognize a joke ^^;;
"Can I reflect cars? Aaaaanndd, that's a no." -Ludvix 2016
Fun fact pokefloats was legal for a time
Then someone tried camping, a bunch of people got mad, and it was banned for some reason
LARAUJO Same thing with Jungle 64.
I’m sure everyone who has a small knowledge of the history of melee knows that
Corneria was legal at one point too
Same for Peach's Castle until the bullet bill explosion was being used as an exploit to win a match.
banned stages are fun to play on
True
Yep
Competitive = No fun
+Rsngamer that's not why. They're banned because they take away the ability for the best player to take home the gold.
Not really. They add another level of complexity and balances out a lot of other character's weaknesses. More viable characters make for a more diverse meta and more of a challenge for pro players to adapt to a changing landscape.
Fox and Falco banned on Corneria, they can call support
Profile picture link?
Corneria itself is banned :)
James Lee
that's the point of the video dude D: c'mon
Corneria is broken
If only I had a friend to play melee with :(
Netplay :)
+Ludvix Yeah you right :D
go to your local tourney
+Ludvix yeah but that's mostly pros who are tourney like players so they mostly play on legal stages and are just gud
+Manny Deluna I'll get my ass beat lool
if big blue was brought into smash 4 no one would use little mac lol
Unless omega mode but I don't see how that would work.
+Nickel arse Hell The Falcon Flyer.
+Ryan Phan I would. XD
+Doof Network Me 2, AIR MAC FTW
So I asked someone to make a earthbound pun and they said "onett"
I love these stages. They are crazy and well studied for absolute wrecking tactics. Green Greens is just too good.
Crash Bandicoot staring into your soul dank memes If you played Melee in your childhood without any knowledge of the tournament scene then you must have played on all the stages a million times. Heck if you like the game, casual or pro, you must know all the stages by heart.
and it was all a aww
Bait
please post more vids man they're hilarious
La Puerta its not clickbait, theyre banned stages from tournaments
"its honestly fair"
Aw dude we need more of these!
agree
yess
this channel is fucking great why it doenst have like 100 k subs man you deserv more keep up the good work
ikr
+photonenplayer Because they're not good at melee. They're funny. But not good at melee.
Alexander Gomez but thats like the same thing as with alphared or videogamedunkey theyr not realy good at the game but its always funny to watch their videos i think they will grow because they cut the videos realy good and are realy entertaining
***** photonenplayer The melee community... is very... let's call it "touchy" when it comes to their game. Most of them have the "If you're not good, you're not worth my time" mindset.
+photonenplayer because they both are flat out copying dunkey
C'mon guys it's 2016! We need to treat all stages equally #EndStageDiscrimination
there are not 63 genders.
*Stages.
**Sagnders.
That Niga Across The Street your part of the problem.
75m, New Pork City, and Flat Zone X will finally be loved? :D
This reminds me of the time someone pretended to be the guy who beat Sky in Smash.
Starving African Child.. Laughed my ass off on that part.
who didn't?
ikr
Starving African childs didn't
man why'd you have to go that way
I don't know why but i keep watching the same videos, i guess you're just that entertaining.
Well thank you :)
So +Ludvix... I'm ready to get rekt.
You guys should upload more often, you are AMAZING :D
Agreed
Jeffrey Santiago YASSSSSSS!
+Matheus Vasiliauskas Soares Fuck off.
+Matheus Vasiliauskas Soares My brother's friend makes very similar videos. Less production quality, but still decent.
***** It's called "Fascist Fork".
Smells like shit ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
my biggest complaint about Smash 4 is that stages kind of suck compared to the last two games
agreed
at least we got tomogatchi life
Boss stages. Fuck them all
some of the new stages are really boring.
Brawl has amazing stages, I mainly start with those ones.
don't you mean character choices, or the strange fx, or even the awkwardly too-well-balanced player motions
This reminds me of the time dunkey beat sky
Huh... all these years, and I had no idea you could break the Great Fox's laser cannons.
lol me too
yes when ludvix says are you ready to get rekt in my mind is are you ready to a great video (grettings from mexico)
Thanks :)
Earned another subscriber, that was so entertaining.It reminds me of my friends and I just goofing off in any smash game.
Also F A L C O B O Y S
I love me some falco mains
When ludvix uploads
PokeFloats actually used to be tournament legal
+victikirby15 Same with Mute City, Brinstar, Rainbow Ride, Princess Peach's Castle and Corneria.
+victikirby15 Back when people played competitive melee with items
joão pedro lima leal Items got turned off way earlier.
Jonassoe Exactly
They were only tournament legal as counter picks
0:23 “It’s honestly fair!” (nothing wrong with this stage…lol!)
Didn't remember that you could break the Corneria cannon. :O
ur nit casual enough then u filthy casual
+VsKatshuma I never knew it was a thing
+Guidosaur same
+Guidosaur same
"Tingle has a map"
"He can stab someone with that"
*TINGLE FOR SMASH ULTIMATE CONFIRMED??!?!?!*
If "professional" players can calculate the reach of Marth's sword attacks in pixels and predict when Randall comes out, surely they can manage...
Getting out of the way for a car (with a large warning sign on display) in Onett.
Jumping up when lava rises on Brinstar.
Track barrel movement in Kongo Jungle (Both Melee and 64).
Avoid giant-ass bullet bills on Peach's Castle.
Manage breaking blocks on Yoshi's Island.
Know when a car slowly moves off camera in Big Blue.
Track a slow-moving camera in Rainbow Cruise.
And battle on nigh-completely-static stages like Hyrule and Venom.
Stage hazards arent the reason for banning most of these stages lol.
I hope this is a joke.
the reason the stages are banned is usually because of fox since he can infinite relatively easy against any wall on characters like marth, peach, falcon, etc.
Neo Machine u
Stages are banned because of walkoffs and static walls for the reason that you can be 0 to deathed way too easily, giving some characters a huge advantage. Stages with stage hazards are also banned because it goes against the idea of competitive play. The point of competitive play is to see who is the best player. With stage hazards, instead of being player vs player, it can very often turn to player vs stage, which can be fun casually, but goes against the idea of competitive play. Thats why so many stages are banned.
Mom: What do you want son?
Me: A dragon!
Mom: Something more realistic honey.
Son: To play poke floats in competitive tournaments!
Mom: Color do you want your dragon son?
it seems that these guys have played competitive melee all of their lives
No time for casual play, only tech skill practice( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Ludvix OKAY ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
You guys need to upload more. Yall are funny as hell. Just saying.
You fogot brinstar depths yo.
We did all maps but the video ended up to be way to long, so i had to cut a lot of content :(
+Ludvix Would be cool if you uploaded the rest in a part 2 in the future
+Giantfirering Cole Seconded.
Got a nostalgia burst out of nowhere, this video is always a joy to come back to. I remember I went out of my way to download it to my phone way back when so I could always have something to watch even if I had no wifi access, and it somehow never got old. Still a great time all these years later.
How dare you not put icicle mountain! It is the "infinite glacier" after all!
10: 39 *Genie voice* "I can't believe it, I lost a stock to a rug..." ;)
Are you guys running the game on a GameCube??? The resolution looks so amazing. How you managed to get such beautiful res?
1080p dolphin netplay :)
+Ludvix What specs does your computer have?
+Ludvix gtx 750ti u mean. -Kalai
+367projects
Has to be a pre-built. So like, a 1500$ AlienWare that uses a GT 720 paired with the 4790k.
I bet he's using Dolpin
was expecting top 10, got quality content, good shit guys
Anyone know where I can find tournament matches on these banned stages? There's gotta be a video of someone abusing it, before it was banned.
There may not be one for every stage, but it's pretty easy to predict what was wrong with the layout of the stage. In a nutshell, big stages were running away and lasering, walkoffs were camping at the blast zone, stages with walls were shine infinites, stages with ceilings were survivable to 200%, and stages with hazards were not survivable past 50%.
Luigiofthegods
wow thanks, what's a walkoff?
+Olivebates A stage with the floor extending past the screen, like Flat Zone or Mushroom Kingdom.
Luigiofthegods
Ahhh, yeah alright. kudos m8!
Spamerer vs Vidjo for Poke Floats. Greatest match of all time.
#makepokefloatslegal
#legalizebannedstages
#makeamericagreatagain
+Oliver Craft GTFO, donald trump
+poco Jr No, my child.
+CrNCH G. T. F. O.
I've been waiting on a new upload!
Me too! :D
8:01
Doctor: dont worry t-pose psyduck doesn’t exist
T-pose psyduck:
Why so many dislikes?
Dedleg 021 idk this is really good and why would anyone hate on them
Dedleg 021 Meleeeeee fanboys. They're not playing as Fox.
Dedleg 021 because people are angry cause Donald trump is president
Final Destination in the thumbnail?
zEKu It has nothing to do with beeing a pussy.
"all my favorite melee stages"
0/10 no Brinstar Depths.
+you tried we don't talk about Brinstar Depths.
Huh? I don't think that was included in this version. I don't have it, but I haven't updated to the latest patch.
+Christian Ernst The stage select screen appears at 0:14. Look at the stage icon under Brinstar. That's Brinstar Depths.
+you tried It wasn't included yet they planned on releasing it and they haven't made it yet. It just crashes on launch. Reorganizing the SSS takes time it's fine.
We played all stages, but i didnt want the video to be too long.
y'all are so funny an at the same time good at smash, y'all have good editing and y'all don't feel akward around each other.
It's really funny and also entertaining to watch pretty much professional melee players playing, and all the cool combos y'all get.
Keep doing what y'all are doing, it's great
True apple combos.
Its fun to see Melee Competitive on Incompetitive stages.
lol love your vids man. I'm glad I found you!
I love playing Mordecai and Rigby on Super Smash Bros. Melee for the Cartoon Gamecube
lol XD
Charmander looks scared at 10:14
*****
Bottom right of Bizzaro's up-tilt pic.
+Gadrick Knight #relevant
Demon519
Indeed.
3:14
"Can I reflect cars?" - Ludvix 2016
Nice job, you have almost 10,000 subscribers and like 7 videos! Congrats!
"Nah that not how we play these games" I say that every time my sister asks to turn on items.
Why is there so manatee dislikes?
10:40 the magic carpet and the deadly 69
You never broke Great Fox's laser before ? o_O How old are you ?
As a falco main myself, is great fun to watch you play. Along with that, you're really funny! I hope you get really popular fam
Eeeeeasy monaaaay!
eeeeeaaaaassssyyy money
+Abdullah Alturkei A fraud!
You are one of my favorite TH-camrs now. Keep up the good work.
You guys are acting like you never played on these stages before. Seriously, have some fun for once. It's how Smash was _meant_ to be played.
ok sakurai make them omega then
Please tell me this is a troll.
You sound like a tf2 tryhard xd
melee has a lot of options to customize, would be cool if there was an option for stage hazards to be turned off, then we would have like 12 tourney legal stages.
#LegalizePokeFloats
OHHH this video made me laugh so much :'D thank you for uploading this, our community needs this kind of good laughs every now and then, thanks man
Zelgadis vs Eddie is the real reason Yoshi's Island is banned.
elaborate?
gamarad Eddie was a ganon main. Ganon mains are the reason why most stages are banned because ganon gets camped hard on unorthodox stages. Like pink shinobi vs rockcrock got dk 64 banned.
Kai diss tracks so stages got banned for one character almost nobody, at least that i've seen, uses seriously...
I literally rewatch all your melee videos so often. I can't wait until you release more of them.
I really like these videos of you guys just playing melee, you should post more. Also, how are you getting such good resolution out of a GameCube?
runs in 1080p using dolphin netplay :)
Even with that it won't get to the level of dolphin, it upscales the resolution but has nothing to do with netplay +Learning With Nightcat
everybodyXD I know.
here before ludvix changes the name of this video again
Why does this have so many dislikes?
Smash 4 casuals hating on melee
Competitive Melee players
These videos are top tier mate. Great production!
08:17 its mr meeseeks
I swear this channel has so much potential and even then it's fun to watch
I'm only 90 seconds in. Do they actually explain why they're banned at some point?
Many variables: too big, hazards, unfair character advantages, gimmicky stuff lol
I read somewhere (I think on the Smash Wiki) that Poké Floats apparently used to be a legal counter pick...
No, no, I'm not asking YOU to tell me. I'm asking if they explain it in the video. You know, since the thumbnail literally says, "Why are these NOT tourney legal?"
+Bloodbath and Beyond They let the footage speak for itself.
So no, in other words. Thanks.
This is hands down my favorite Melee video ever.
Hey man I know this is a bit late, but what do you use to edit your videos?
Adobe premiere :)
Thanks ;)
HES BACK AND ALIVE HOLY SHIT
Dude I'm really diggin the Melee content you're putting out. It's all super entertaining
Thank you :)
How does this guy get 300k at the least per vid but only has 28k subs...
Viewbots. This guy is a scumbag. 500k+ views and only around 2% of people actually comment.
Wait really? Can you send me the source. Because uhhhh have you seen his league of legends views.
TH-cam's recommended system's algorithm.
Just saw this on my recommended. You guys are great!
So have you seen "TH-camrs" by Dunkey by any chance?
Yup. Lol. Dunkey is my inspiration
+Ludvix maybe you missed the point of the video
+Bren Dan Maybe you don't understand how to make a youtube account grow. You start with something basic and grow into your own, it doesn't happen over night.
Subbed :). More melee content please, this is hilarious!
Why do we need a whole video for "banned Melee stages"? Just say "all of them but Final Destination" and move on. Much quicker.
Jotaro Kujo
it's called a joke
but jokes are funny
+Cap'n Game but jokes are supposed to be funny
I think the reason why i like these videos is it reminds me of how I am with my friends. Just some guys chilling out, not taking the game too seriously and having fun. Never change.
Thanks man :)
great videos dude
fucking hilarious
All these years and I didn’t even know you could break the cannon on the Great Fox in Corneria.
This is a momentous discovery.
Make this type of vids a little shorter, like 7min and they will be perfect, just my opinion tho. Good comedy.
Thanks!
Your opinion is dumb. If you want shorter, just watch less of it. This "type of vid" doesn't require you to watch all of it. There's no long-winded explanations in this video so I don't see what you're bitching about.
+apocalypseap Shitting on people opinions every sec, good job pal.
Idk man I think i prefer longer considering we only get 1 vid a month ;)
Keep uploading videos like this. Your edits are great, your commentary is funny, and your ideas for videos are genius.
Why the dislikes...
Juggernug gerbugger Why does it suck?
In the thumbnail of this video, there is a text which says "Why are these NOT Tourney Legal?" but that question is not even brought up as far as i know. To be honest, i don't want to watch 11 minutes of unfunny and unoriginal commentary just to back this up..
Fun Fact: Poke Floats WAS tournament legal a long time ago since it had no stage hazards. Some people found some bugs with the stage like infinite traps and various glitches with the platforms so the stage was promptly banned from all tourneys.