Game Theory: Super Mario Odyssey's GIANT Problem (Nintendo)
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SUPER MARIO ODYSSEY looks stunning, but one major detail from the Super Mario Odyssey trailer caused me to start theorizing right when I saw it: Why is everybody ENORMOUS?! Well after days of research, I have an answer. In this episode, I will reveal the reason behind the Human Gigantism we see in Super Mario Odyssey's gameplay! Can I solve the Super Mario Odyssey mystery before Nintendo reveals more about the game at E3? I'm going to try!
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Missed opportunity to call the backpacks "MatPacks"
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my
god
Big Brian
( sorry I cant sP3ll
smart...
It backpats
Hella smart
I like how, even years after Mario Odyssey was released, this is the best explanation that we have.
@David Meyer I mean, Peach and Tiara go everywhere so…
Rock and roll
still is
MatPat's explanations are always the best! Don't matter if they turn out to be wrong. It's the dev's mistake!
not really. They are probably just humans, while mario and him-like characters are probably hybrids of humans and mushrooms, either toads or their distant ancestors. In super show (cartoon part) they showed an early stage of toads evolution - they were more humane, obviously, until evolution happned.
"Mexicoland"
"Forest Land"
"Kitchen Kingdom"
"City"
Well,he ain't wrong.
Lol
mexico isn't just mexico anymore it's a whole land
Forest world*
I love how mat makes a joke that Mario has a tiny banana, then later makes a video about measuring Luigi’s and Mario’s ‘bananas’
and mario has a tiny banana
aGH
That one makes me love Luigi even MORE!
@@teoborges3949 Hold up....?
@@sup-broski818 By loving, means that i wanna play as him!
5:22 "There are triangles in Mexicoland"
^me trying to explain quesadillas
lul
Gud one
My lil sis accidentally called Sand kingdom: Mexico kingdom, lol
Good
Mmmmmmm yum
5:03 hahahahahaha
Moral of the story: If you're short, eat bananas. Milk has lied to you the entire time
DUN DUN DUNNNN
bananas are my best friends
*Edward Elric liked that*
Thank you :D
So i can finally noy be at least a foot shorter than mario?
"Who doesn't want a giant banana" yah I missed that 3 years ago
...
Yeah boi me too
Same
Yea me too
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Don’t forget, MatPat, the DK gigantism also applies to Donkey Kong himself. I looked it up, and I found out that Donkey Kong is about 8’ tall and, according to DK 64 (the only 3D game in the franchise), weighs exactly 800 lbs. Most silverback gorillas in real life are around 4’-6’ tall and weigh 300-500 lbs.
Who said DK is a silverback? He is brown, after all.
@Yurilis
Not me. That was just for comparison.
@@yurilis1348 it's not like the specific race of gorilla makes that much of a difference, at most it would only be a few pounds difference
"Mario got a tiny banana."
Oooh, so that's why peach gets 'kidnapped'.
heh... good one!
and for some reason still goes back to him.....
vang-tou Lee for when she needs a break xD
vang-tou Lee she gets dragged back.
Peach is Bowser's jr's mom
You guys had too much fun recording the merchandise part...
Catalyst I skipped it
+Charles The destroyer ...and?
Catalyst XD
Lol
Lucina Rukina
NINTENDO:How are we gonna explain the giant humans?
*watches the video
NINTENDO:I am gonna steal that and act like that was the reason.
Matpat: “The much anticipated sequel to Super Mario Iliad”
Me: there is a super mario Iliad?
If you think about it, Super Mario Bros is kinda like the Iliad since the stories are pretty similar
Not that I’ve ever heard of.
Not sure if you guys didn't get the joke or if you're just adding to it, but, if the former; it's referencing the fact that _The Odyssey_ is a sequel (kind of, they're part of the same epic poem series en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_Cycle#Contents of which only _The Iliad_ and _The Odyssey_ have survived) to _The Iliad._
@@scaper8 All of us understood all of it before you posted this comment, but thanks for your caution, and I think it's pretty obvious we alrwady knew (I mean, I literally said that SMB1 was like the Illiad)
There’s also Super Mario-
Troy (prequel)
Sparta
Valhalla
"Who doesn't want a large banana afterall"-MatPat 2017
Anupama Manoj ii
Anupama Manoj Me
Anupama Manoj 🖒🖒👍
Anupama Manoj XD that sounds so dirty
Nell
Yup! xD
"Mario's got a tiny banana". MatPat said it.
Who doesn't want a large banana though?
Sychen Wang I read this right as he said it
It was really a stretch to force in a joke. It didn't even fit contextually.
Hahaha 🤣
FUQ 2
Ah yes, back when everyone thought that metro kingdom was super important when in fact it was just another kingdom. Ahhh... memories
Imagine a "I might have a gender, but that's just a theory!" shirt. That would actually be awesome- or in any sense, as in "I might be cool, but that's just a theory!", etc.
The first one is boring tbh. How about a “you get no bitches, but that’s just a fact”
@@lazyatbeinglazy13 yours is the boring one tbh the OP is way better
@@LuluTheCorgi Nah, his was better 😂
Banana=Viagra
D O N G E X P A N D E D
this deserves a like just for the dong expanded
Pooperscoo 101 E X P A N D D O N G
I think you mean *D O N K*
13:30 - "Mario has a tiny banana"... Ohno.
Natalia Borys Well after that video about Luigi’s “spaghetti and meatballs” we know that this is true.
Inappropriate
Ella Hartnett Who cares? TH-cam’s 13+ anyway.
@@rosielow527 ...There's a age limit...*later* FBI OPEN UP!
Well that’s why peach likes bowser
The way I see this theory, it ties back to his story being raised in “Brooklyn, NY”.
I think that New Donk City IS “Brooklyn, NY” & that Mario grew up there. Now the timeline’s messy with Mario in general (Yoshi’s Island to Partners In Time, for instance) but with this, my canon version of the timeline is that Yoshi Island games (SMW2, New, DS) is the beginning of Mario & his relationships, after he & Luigi was dropped off to their true parents in New Donk City to live happy lives. At one point, the Mushroom Kingdom was hosting a party & Mario’s parents brought along the two twins, leaving them to be babysat by Toadsworth. From there, he goes on a huge adventure with his future self & saving Baby Peach. As a baby, he gets inspired by the red & green heroes, so becomes more heroic in his actions & motives. But being a baby, he only has vague memory, if at all of his future self.
So Mario grows up to around 18 years old, gets to work on Construction girders & in comes Donkey Kong, fresh from a recent captured from the Wooded Kingdom, kidnapping his childhood crush, Pauline. He raced to defeat Donkey Kong & capture him back up. The city thanked him for not just rescuing Pauline, but stopping the big ape, so they renamed the city to New Donk City, in a way to remember to event. (I don’t know the actual name of the city before the DK thing, so I think it was called Metro City, after the name Metro Kingdom is officially titled.)
From there, Donkey Kong Jr. comes to rescue DK from Mario, who was hired to keep a close eye on the unruly ape, & they both escape to a distant island where they rule on their own. From there, Mario gradually went from construction to plumbing, with them soon finding a pipe leading directly to the Mushroom Kingdom, where Bowser had used his evil magic to turn the Toads into bricks. & the rest is history.
Now, my personal explanation as to why Mario looks shorter than the people at New Donk. Same explanation with the super bananas, Mario grew accustomed to the Toad’s diet with plenty of fruits & veggies grown locally that naturally gives Toads their short stature, hence Mario being only 5 feet tall (more or less, this is general terms) Peach is the only one exempt from this, is because she’s a Princess, thus have access to foods from other kingdoms & lands, so she’ll have a more balanced diet outside of the Mushroom Kingdom’s usual, but she’s still shorter than New Donk’s citizens, so it’s mostly a genetic thing.
I want to take a minute and appreciate how much WORK it took to write this.
@@ghettokage6104 Thank you! I’ve always got a writer’s spark in me & love solving mysteries in lore, plus being a huge Mario fan means I was meant for something like this. Hearing this made my day, good sir / madam ❤️💙
Cool. I want a Mario draw my life now lol
"Fashion is a science" 5 years later
The greatest foreshadowing ever
"Super Mario Iliad" Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.
10/10 meme usage
Middle school memories.
his merch there is a figget spinner why game theory why
'figget spinner', friggin spineer.
The game hasn't even come out yet? Well then, that's just a theory..... a pre-release theory!
Zombie 101 thanks for pre ordering
I literally just spend an hour trying to find Super Mario Iliad
Lolololol
omg thats why Bowser always changes heights! he's been stealing bananas since the beginning, in which at that time he was tiny boi.
Wait, are these bananas related to the mighty bananas in Zelda: Breath of the Wild??
*EXPOSED*
*G A S P*
No
Yes
@Eli Wille it shall never be stopped
"who doesnt want a large banana after all?"
*dirty mind activate*
Haha I thought he was going to say something else about that lol
The M Triggered
The M Banananananananner
The M thank God, I'm not the only one with a screwed up mind.
Im eating a banana right now.
''our logo is a circle, it's a match made in heaven''
other youtubers: huh, wish mine was
*”It’s just a-“*
**Starts taking abt merch**
Me: totally got caught off guard and thought he was gonna say
*”it’s just a theory; a GAME theory”*
It turned real quick from merchandise, to giant people, to matpat ranting about bananas
13:28 - “Mwuh Mwuh Mwuh Wuuuuuh... Mario has a tiny banana.” - MatPat ‘17
(No wonder Peach is being stolen by Bowser. It’s to protect her from ‘LITTLE’ Mario...)
*cringe*
Austin - Vlogger
IT'S TIME TO *STOP*
W
Austin - Vlogger 8
Mario has a 14 inch
Or maybe Mario’s just really small. Matpat really overthinks everything.
i'm pretty sure it has been confirmed mario is over 5ft before this
Keep in mind, mario is also pretty short lmao. He’s canonically 5’1, so he is pretty short for like a 30-40 yr man. although that doesn’t mean these guys in new donk city aren’t tall
He could be a normal human Italian man who just so happens to have dwarfism.
Me: **eats actual banana and drinks milk in hopes of growing taller**
Banana milk
@@LXW-Arts milk banana
Bilk manana
ananaB kliM
bamilka
People watching this after Odyssey comes out:
Mayor Pauline
Yeahhhhhhhhh...
But I actually think it still works.
Actually,i have news
Pauline = Dongkikong.
Kayleigh Fabulous also me
"With Mettaton performing sprinkler duty" This made me laugh so hard, my parents were like "You ok?"
3:15 Because fashion is a science. He was teasing style theory all the way back then.
Yes
Damn I was commenting this exact thing then I saw yours 😂
This went a completely different direction than I thought it would I thought he was going to talk about how Mario is not human and possibly the same race as Peach, a mushroom
i thought he was some sort of goblin lol
@@instantnoodles6023 nah hes just a midget
I thought he'd say something along the lines (given how high Mario could jump there) that most Mario games don't take place on Earth at all and that his planet's gravity was stronger than earth's so Mario was shorter but on Earth even though he appears short his legs are really powerful.
Tbh I thought that in Odyssey when we saw that some of the humans needed helmets on the moon, but Mario and Peach didn't. And considering that Mario and Luigi were delivered by storks... But the helmet thing seemed like a gag considering the ending showed not only Pauline without a helmet, but the other humans too
8:38 "How did they get so big?"
Oh I know! Viag-
"The banana hoard"
Oh.
Mrlegitbeans the big bananas.
MatPat says he “hates” giving up: It fills him with DETERMINATION
"who doesn't want a big bannana" -Matpat
Mario: we’re not in the mushroom kingdom anymore toado
IM DYING
3:16 the ultimate master of FORESHADOWING!
I love how this turned into a donkey kong theory
"I don't quit"
-matpat
"Where's part two of the mass effect!?"
-Me
Zach Ramirez
forget that, what about part 3 of Doctor who? IT'S BEEN OVER A FRIGGIN' YEAR!!!
Or part 3 of Doctor who
That going to be made after part 3 of doc who on film theory,
Zach Ramirez
Me: MatPat you say you don't quit, but WHERE IS DOCTOR WHO PART 3
ikr and doctor who part 3
He really should have called the Backpacks, MattPacks. Get it... like Matt Patt but... Matt Pack. No? Ok.
Jordan Feller ikr
I believe in that idea.make a petition
Jordan Feller #MattPacks
i like it #mattpack
Jordan Feller #mattpack
"because fashion is a science"
Years later:
Me: WAIT STYLE THEORY WAS FORETOLD IN A VIDEO!?
3:15 he was hinting at it all along!
Matpat: "Donkey kongs special bannanas"
Me: "Very creative name"
"Mario has a tiny banana." -MatPat2017
Romulus Rabisto lol
Romulus Rabisto phrasing?
He needs a banana to grow his banana
kawaiicat330 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Its 2018 lol
"'cause fashion is a science!"...
5 Years later: there now is Style Theory...
10:11
I always thought K Rool was a crocodile.
MatPat: Bananas can supersize humans
Me At Walmart: YES ILL HAVE 89 BANANAS PLEASE
Chris Cartoons you die by eating 7 bananas, lol.
Oats Corn Hey then jaiden met you!
Sparkey Is Powa Hehehe. JaidenAnimations joke...
Pawii Wolf Someone gets it! :D
Funny joke.
This is a great theory, and I'm not trying to be rude, but you've forgotten about one crucial thing. The fact that this is a different world. It's been proven that the force of gravity compresses the spine, and that if we were to eventually move to different planets with less gravity, humans would actually grow taller, because there wouldn't be as much gravity compression on the spine. So, it's very plausible that this planet could just have less gravity than the mushroom kingdom, and that's why the humans are so tall. I've also come up with a way to possibly prove this, but it's a little sketchy. When Mario long jumps off of the skyscraper in the trailer, that's really the only time he is falling, thus allowing you to use pixel measurements to see if he falls slower compared to games based in the mushroom kingdom. I guess the same thing could also be applied when he is in the jump-rope scene, but falling was the first thing I thought of.
Oddly enough, C.S. lewis wrote about a world with less gravity and tall inhabitants back in the day.
David Borengasser that's kind of what I was going off of, along with the fact that matpat has covered space-growth before
The theory seems to be rushed I think that's why he forgot all about it.
CubeMP that could be possible as well. I didn't really expect it to get into banana's, of all things xD
SansTheDunker but they are on earth
"fashion is a science" - 5 years later Style theory was born.
"Mario's got a tiny banana"
theory: the reason why Mario is shorter is because it would look weird if he was as tall as them because of his cartoonish style
But that's not science!
Dexxxy's Den I
Then nintendo would've just made the citizens cartoony
you mean like Pauline?
Totally agree
I honestly thought this theory was kind of a stretch until a few days ago, when I was playing BoTW. There’s a mission in which you have to go to the Yiga Clan’s, a group of dangerous thieves, hideout. When you enter the hideout, you find a Gerudo prisioner who says that their only weakness is that they have an obsession with bananas, or something along those lines. These experienced warriors just suddenly leave their posts whenever they see one, and then they keep it to themselves, which fits perfectly with this theory, since they probably use them to become stronger. Then later, in the hideout, there’s a huge secret stash of bananas, in the same place where they kept a treasure chest. And what really blew my mind is that the bananas are called “mighty bananas” and when cooked into a meal, they power-up your attack. They basically make you stronger and more powerful. So maybe this banana theory applies for other Nintendo games, not just Mario.
neat
Alejandra Lopez makes sense
expanding_mind.png
Well bananas arent the only food which increase your strenght, fishes too ...
Alejandra Lopez I
“Donkey Kong’s enormous banana” has to be in soooooo many “MatPat out of context” videos 😂
True
“Fasion is a science.”
Bro was foreshadowing Style Theory.
MatPat: Don't get me wrong, but who doesn't like a *big* banana?
Me: I understand you completely.
Trashboat boattrash Its the small ones that do the most damage ;)
Trashboat boattrash lol
Trashboat boattrash ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I love big bananas ( ͡° ᴥ ͡°)
Benefit of being lesbian :D
I'm really short so I'm just gonna go buy a few hundred bananas.
I'm average sized but want to grow bigger. I can't eat bananas properly though so I'm going to use supplements! Wish me luck that I don't grow too big! I'm wishing you luck with all of those bananas!
then theres me at almost 2 meters and still growing
Clemente i am the tallest of all my friend and family and have never eaten a banana since the age of 3 they are really really aweful
eating any more than 7 in one sitting is dangerous, it is believed that eating to many bananas can kill you.
Clemente im really tall im good
3:16 foreshadowing the future events...
The fact that this video came out before Odyssey and yet somehow still holds up even after Mario's lore has been more figured out is honestly impressive. In Mario Party 9, we see bananas used to form power stars, and Tiki Tong's death animation is spews a similar liquid to the one seen in New Donk's power plant. Cappy says Power Stars are Power Moons with different shapes. So this means that New Donkers are eating raw star power. This lines up with the Wiggler from Super Mario 64 and Bowser in Galaxy 2, who also use star power to increase their size.
"Donkey Kong's enormous bananas"
All aboard the nope train!
Who doesn't want Donkey Kong's enormous bananas?
What about Diddy???
Pastel Kisses what is the song at 7:55
Alexander Munk - Forest
Super Mario Iliad and it's sequal Odyssey?
"It's a me, Nobody"
OMG, dat reference tho.
XD
*slow clapping* Bravo sir, bravo.
Thexevilxwulfy nice reference, Nohbdy
*When someone named nobody pokes you in the eye with a hot toothpick*
WHY DID NOBODY DO THIS TO ME! NOBODY WILL PAY FOR THIS! I HATE NOBODY!
me in 2023 laughing that MatPat thought that the Tosterena ruins were going to be a Aztec pyramid
Please do an episode on Faith! I LOVE the gameplay, and there's more lore than previously conceivable! It's a LOT of lore
Video starts at 3:26
Massa The raptor
I was looking
for a comment like this,but by the time I found it was to late
Porcelain Dolls that’s unfortunate
This is great
Well he can stretch our long for just Some merch
Thank
I guess Wario has been eating some of these bananas. how else is he 10 feet tall?
Jordan it's a reference to another Theory
I'm pretty sure Wario is the same height as Mario
Just saying
Jordan are you new to matpats channel
Catoblepas dont you mean waluigi?
hittrend #696969420911 Bunch of noobs
During the New Donk City festival, Mario goes against what I would assume is the og Donkey Kong. You can also talk to Pauline and she talks about how she was kidnapped by an ape, saying "I knew you'd remember!" Does this mean that the Mario in Mario Odyssey is the Mario from the original Dk game?
He said that “fashion is a science” when he talked about his merch, did he hint about style theory 5 years before it got made?
This takes the "Expand Dong" meme to a new level.
WajiRock
Well, but he killed the Squid/Kid meme!
WajiRock I died
He did say donkey kong had a big banana
MatPat studies video games WAAAAY too much. I love it.
DivideByPie me to
DivideByPie u should have made it so it said I love it after u clicked read more
I just realized he foreshadowed style theory at 3:17
Omg your right
Cant believe this is already 3 years ago seems like last year
but why isn't Donkey Kong big when he has probably ate the most bannanas
Maybe he is the size of diddy without his bananas
The power would've probably worn out
It's possible that the bananas' don't affect certain certain primates. Every member of the Kong family is "related" but aren't the same species. Donkey is a Gorilla, while Diddy is a Spider Monkey, just as a quick example. It's possible that Donkey and Diddy aren't affected because they don't have the right genes. But then again, that kind of means Human Evolution in the Mario world isn't a thing since Humans evolved from primates, which means Nintendo believes in creation and Peach really is the Goddess of the world. Huh, maybe Odyssey was meant to prove MatPats theory about Mario and Bowser having to constantly entertain Peach so she doesn't destroy the world.
Jacob Groves He is giant in smash 64 if that helps
Jacob Groves Maybe he's supposed to protect them from being over used
"Marios got a tiny bannana" Of course he does otherwise princess peach wouldn't let bowser kidnap her all the time.
COMMENT OF THE YEAR, EVERYBODY
FaZe Reaper 200th like
LMAO
Snap.
To boot MatPat's big banana theory, some of the bosses have to eat them to turn evil as well as being hypnotized by the main villains in DK Country Returns.
Mat pat: FASHIONABLE! Editors:*lady wrapped in a green screen*
'Who doesn't want a massive banana after all?' Well done, MatPat, well done. Totally family-friendly.
"Don't get me wrong who doesn't want a big banana"-MatPat 2017
4:56
I Speak Spanish So This Was INCREDIBLY CRINGY
Yes I fell you
Lmao
At 5:11 instead of Peach's castle I heard him Peach's a**hole🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fashion Theory confirmed????
Me You BUT THAT'S JUST A THEORY! A META TH-cam THEORY! THANKS FOR READING!
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D O N K E Y K O N G ' S
E N O R M O U S B A N A N A S
E X P A N D B A N A N A
Only in the literal sense - apparently that body part is actually relatively small on a gorilla.
*Y O U F U C K I N G F A I L U R E*
*BLACK* *SCREEN* Your a*
*BLACK* *SCREEN* 😂😂😂😂why did i laught at this?😂😂😂😂
*Mattpat: makes this video*
*Me: Mario's just short...*
MatPat: “special bananas 🍌”
Me: *gasp* cocaine bananas!
Its a matpack
Sooooo.... Does this mean size matters? Uhh... I'm asking for a friend... yeah... a friend....
Spencer Guy Not really depends in the person.. but size does make up for lack of experience/skill and lack of size, basically yeah...
I'm gonna say "yes" cause y'see, I don't think I could truly call myself a macrophile if I didn't have at least some size-bias. (I like chicks though, so yeah... :/)
so trumps inauguration crowd
Spencer Guy haha
nah, size doesn't matter if you have bananas that help you control what size you are. Too small? Nah, just eat a banana.
3:16
He knew! He gave us a hint for the new channel yearssssssss ago 🫢🫢🫢
“Mario’s got a tiny banana”
-MatPat 2017
I can finally understand the Yiga Clan's motives.
yea next DK game will have Yiga Clan as the Antagonists. DK X LOZ crossover
lol
This is what I always needed but never knew it
Did I just watch a 15 minute video about magic bananas?
no, you watched a 3 minute ad and a 12 minute video about magic bananas.
JN Extra Giant Magic Donkey Kong Bananas
Yes, yes you did
Hey, at least it's not magic mushrooms.
Oh I thought it was going to have something to do with gravity (granted I’ve never played the game, and don’t know a whole lot about science) but if there were less gravity pushing down on people’s bones and stuff, wouldn’t it make sense they’d be a bit taller? And it would explain why Mario can jump so high in the game
10:14
Of course, K Rool himself might not be interested in eating Donkey Kong’s “special” bananas, but maybe he knows someone else who is. That’s my guess. I hope it works.
A Matpat-backpack it's a MatPack 😂
The ImmortalCrow or a backpat
A pat on the back! :D
you are a genius
The people seem pretty normal sized to me i think our friend mario is a little on short side
His cannon height is like, 5 something
Sort of like the 'little i' you used in this comment lol
@Gravitrax just cause you are something makes it automatically wrong 5'1" pretty short, mostly for male, its just a little short for females
@Gravitrax average womans height is 5'4" and mans height is 5'7" so you and mario are both pretty short.
@Gravitrax well it only really applies if you're an adult.
"Mario had a tiny banana"
Me:
3:16 Style Theory foreshadowing??!!?!?!!??!!