This is such useful content. Haynes manual was my go-to for this job, but as far as diagnostics and demonstration goes, a detailed look like what is presented here is like finding a diamond in a shit mine.
hi shane you legend got a 3.6 ltre in a holden commodore in australia thanks to your video i know im on the right track as i noticed exhaust cam phaser left bank was doing that everyone keep telling me it was bent valave i said phaser you just showed wat ive tryed to explain to people will be showing your video to a few people cheers mate terry australia
Excellent video, content rich. I have a 2011 acadia, with the same engine and its good to see someone got 400k miles from it. There are a ton of complaints about this engine.
if a phasers bolt ces loose and phaser backs out a little would it loose oil pressure and act the same? if that makes sense. I was getting ready to do the timing chains and I found a bolt loose with about an 1/8th inch gap between the phaser and the cam bearing behind it.
I have a weird issue did fresh timing on a aura 3.6. Everything lined up and fit well. When I installed the cover I wanted to rotate the engine over by hand just to make sure cams line back up again. And the intake phaser on the Left side(near Radiator) chain jumped two teeth it lost tension for jumped then got tight again. Is there anyway I can prevent that from happened once it’s back together and I crank it over?
When installing the timing chains you have to make sure all of the slack of the chain is on the tensioner side.. If not as soon as you turn the engine over the cam shaft will pop forward causing the chain to jump till the slack is back at the tensioner side
Ok my question is mine moves with pulley and cam shaft is also on driver side close to strut tower.i did timing due to the plastic coming off a guide.starts up runs great drives just that driver side chain will not stay tight
Have a 2006 Cadillac I suspect has this problem had a loud knocking at idle but went away once you gave it gas . Chain and tensioners look . Both sides get slack in the middle when you spin it around . But only knocks coming from passenger side area. Have it taken apart for the timing chain and don’t think it’s the chain thinking it’s the same phaser as yours .
@ I'm tired of the problem of crossing with the 2011 traverse cam synchronizers I'm tired of the problem of crossing with the faulty cam synchronizers I thought there was some way to block them
I have a question, I working on a 2008 Acadia 3.6l. I ordered the parts for the timing, and comes out that the engine was replaced and the phasers and chain on the engine are different from what it's supposed to be(engine was swapped). Turned out the engine is from a Cadillac. Phaser is different and the chain is aswell. The the question is, can I install the complete kit that should be for the Acadia and will it affect the timing? The timing covers are the same, and camshaft sensor aswell.
My garage told me this engine has 2 reluctor Wheels and they think one wheel has slipped causing a timing issue on the left Bank and said they have to remove my engine to investigate 🙄
On this engine each cam phasor has a pick up wheel or reluctor wheel to tell the ECM the exact position of the cam shafts. The crankshaft has a reluctor wheel too. Total of 5 reluctor wheels are used on all rotating components to pinpoint exactly what position the engine is in.
Hi Shane, I think I have this problem on my 48k mile Camaro. Getting a weird clacking noise in some pattern on passenger side of engine. How bad is it to run with this condition? I have no codes. It's intermittent... Would that make sense?? I have a video of the sound I could share
@@johnnyt5108 If the vehicle is not setting a check engine light it's probably not bad .. the clacking is the oil trying to fill the void in the phasor or it's not locking .. best bet is to pull the valve covers and inspect the phasors
@shanewalsh5493 I suspect the oil might not be filling properly because I went to 5w-50 to prevent failure of fuel blowby issues. Then it got a little colder out so maybe the viscosity isn't low enough for the oil to fill on start up. I'm going back to 5w-30 hopefully will resolve. If not I'll pull the valve cover. Helpful video though. Rare to find outside of lifters. Thank you and happy holidays
Will they have any play at all? Each one of mine have maybe a 1/4in or less of play.. Or will it be very obvious? Because I don't know if mine is as dramatic as that. Don't know if the oil pressure bleeds down after a while my engine is pulled.
Hello quick question I wanted to know how long it took you to change out that phaser and if it was difficult or easy I have a 2009 Pontiac G6 GXP with a 3.6 L and I need to change mine out
Skilled person 2.5 to 3.5 hours. Removal of the intake system to gain access to valve covers . The use of a special tool is required to change the phasor.
This is really helpful! I have a 2011 v6 3.0 in my GMC Terrain, getting a cranking no start right now, have fuel, spark, and air but no compression on all cylinders, I just did this test and found 1 cam phaser is moving counter clockwise, however the whole thing moves and slacks the chain.. on the rest I do have some slight play to varying degrees where the front plates you have moving, move about 1 mm (of arc along their outer edge) and spring back for 2, but not the other. Should I replace all 4?
Hi man! Great video! My case is very complicated, i really need your advice.. I own Camaro 2011 V6 3.6 which throws P0008 P0016... 1. Timing Chain Replaced(Cloyes complete kit) 2. 4 Cam Phasers Replaced(OEM) 3. 4 Selenoids Replaced(OEM) 4. 4 Cam Sensors Replaced(ACDelco) 5. Crankshaft Sensor Replaced(ACDelco) Unfortunately nothing changed.. Still same codes. My mechanics double checked alignment... My car is running sluggish,poor.. What should we do next? Pls help
Could this caused three cylinder to misfire all the time? I have a 2010 Buick Enclave with three cylinder misfiring. I checked timing with an oscilloscope and the exhaust camshaft on bank2 is off by a lot(16 degrees retarded calculated). I think there is too much overlap on the valves and thats why they are misfiring. Did you also had a misfire on three cylinders?
It could cause a misfire due to valve overlap, direct injection will not work if the timing is off.. I would check to see if timing chains are bad.. Rear bank of engine?
Definitely a very useful video. Not many videos showing what actually happens when the phasers fail
Glad it was helpful!
This is such useful content. Haynes manual was my go-to for this job, but as far as diagnostics and demonstration goes, a detailed look like what is presented here is like finding a diamond in a shit mine.
It was a lot of information in that short video. Thank you very much! Brief and right to the point. No Nonsense. Well done!
hi shane you legend
got a 3.6 ltre in a holden commodore in australia thanks to your video i know im on the right track as i noticed exhaust cam phaser left bank was doing that everyone keep telling me it was bent valave i said phaser you just showed wat ive tryed to explain to people will be showing your video to a few people
cheers mate
terry australia
Holden is one of my favourite vehicle brands, owned Pontiac G8
Excellent video, content rich. I have a 2011 acadia, with the same engine and its good to see someone got 400k miles from it. There are a ton of complaints about this engine.
Thanks 👍
Will you please link the tools needed to do this job? My car is a 2014 Mustang V6 3.7. Thank you so much.
GREAT VIDEO I JUST WISH TO SEE THE OTHER CAMSHAFTS FOR BANK 2 ON THE SAME TEST AND see the difference w bank 1
if a phasers bolt ces loose and phaser backs out a little would it loose oil pressure and act the same? if that makes sense. I was getting ready to do the timing chains and I found a bolt loose with about an 1/8th inch gap between the phaser and the cam bearing behind it.
Puedo hacerte una pregunta se podrían bloquear a una Traverse motor 3.6 como hacen con los Ford esos CAM phaser
Something tells me that was harder to change out than it seems
Hello, good day, can you tell me the name of the tool and where did you buy it? Thank you
You got a video on you changing them
I have a weird issue did fresh timing on a aura 3.6. Everything lined up and fit well. When I installed the cover I wanted to rotate the engine over by hand just to make sure cams line back up again. And the intake phaser on the Left side(near Radiator) chain jumped two teeth it lost tension for jumped then got tight again. Is there anyway I can prevent that from happened once it’s back together and I crank it over?
When installing the timing chains you have to make sure all of the slack of the chain is on the tensioner side.. If not as soon as you turn the engine over the cam shaft will pop forward causing the chain to jump till the slack is back at the tensioner side
Ok my question is mine moves with pulley and cam shaft is also on driver side close to strut tower.i did timing due to the plastic coming off a guide.starts up runs great drives just that driver side chain will not stay tight
Have a 2006 Cadillac I suspect has this problem had a loud knocking at idle but went away once you gave it gas . Chain and tensioners look . Both sides get slack in the middle when you spin it around . But only knocks coming from passenger side area. Have it taken apart for the timing chain and don’t think it’s the chain thinking it’s the same phaser as yours .
Can I ask you a question, could a Traverse with a 3.6 engine be blocked like they do with the Ford CAM phasers?
@@rusoperformancerd5306 Not as far as I've seen .. I know exactly what you're talking about with Ford
@ I'm tired of the problem of crossing with the cam phaser (female)
I'm tired of the problem of crossing with the cam phaser (male)
@ I'm tired of the problem of crossing with the 2011 traverse cam synchronizers
I'm tired of the problem of crossing with the faulty cam synchronizers I thought there was some way to block them
Awesome video! I just put some cheap eBay phasers on a 14 Impala and I don’t like the way they sound🤔
Where did u get the tool
I have a question, I working on a 2008 Acadia 3.6l. I ordered the parts for the timing, and comes out that the engine was replaced and the phasers and chain on the engine are different from what it's supposed to be(engine was swapped). Turned out the engine is from a Cadillac. Phaser is different and the chain is aswell. The the question is, can I install the complete kit that should be for the Acadia and will it affect the timing? The timing covers are the same, and camshaft sensor aswell.
My garage told me this engine has 2 reluctor Wheels and they think one wheel has slipped causing a timing issue on the left Bank and said they have to remove my engine to investigate 🙄
On this engine each cam phasor has a pick up wheel or reluctor wheel to tell the ECM the exact position of the cam shafts. The crankshaft has a reluctor wheel too. Total of 5 reluctor wheels are used on all rotating components to pinpoint exactly what position the engine is in.
Should they have a little bit of play?since they a e suppost to move?
Hi Shane, I think I have this problem on my 48k mile Camaro. Getting a weird clacking noise in some pattern on passenger side of engine. How bad is it to run with this condition? I have no codes. It's intermittent... Would that make sense?? I have a video of the sound I could share
@@johnnyt5108 If the vehicle is not setting a check engine light it's probably not bad .. the clacking is the oil trying to fill the void in the phasor or it's not locking .. best bet is to pull the valve covers and inspect the phasors
@shanewalsh5493 I suspect the oil might not be filling properly because I went to 5w-50 to prevent failure of fuel blowby issues. Then it got a little colder out so maybe the viscosity isn't low enough for the oil to fill on start up. I'm going back to 5w-30 hopefully will resolve. If not I'll pull the valve cover. Helpful video though. Rare to find outside of lifters. Thank you and happy holidays
@@shanewalsh5493 th-cam.com/users/shortsgRj9ilBJ3t0?si=acdseRKgeA1RxBLV
Here's a link of my engine sound but TH-cam will block it so I split the "" th-cam.com/users/shortsgRj9ilBJ3t0?si=acdseRKgeA1RxBLV
So phasers can also fail but staying locked while running. So its not a sufficient way to identify a bad phaser
Will they have any play at all?
Each one of mine have maybe a 1/4in or less of play..
Or will it be very obvious?
Because I don't know if mine is as dramatic as that.
Don't know if the oil pressure bleeds down after a while my engine is pulled.
They will have a small amount of play, you will hear the oil as you move them back and forth.
will a bad phaser make any type of noise while the vehicle is running such as knocking,ticking,
Clacking noise
Hello quick question I wanted to know how long it took you to change out that phaser and if it was difficult or easy
I have a 2009 Pontiac G6 GXP with a 3.6 L and I need to change mine out
Skilled person 2.5 to 3.5 hours. Removal of the intake system to gain access to valve covers . The use of a special tool is required to change the phasor.
@@shanewalsh5493Did you have enough room to take it out with the cover still on?
Yes, you can take it out with the side cover still on. It's tight but it can be done
@@shanewalsh5493also, was the bolt blocked by the timing cover?
Hey, thanks a lot
Is there a difference in the phasers asking because the phasers I have have a L & R and 2 different part numbers
Intake phaser and exhaust phaser they will be marked Ext or int
This is really helpful! I have a 2011 v6 3.0 in my GMC Terrain, getting a cranking no start right now, have fuel, spark, and air but no compression on all cylinders, I just did this test and found 1 cam phaser is moving counter clockwise, however the whole thing moves and slacks the chain.. on the rest I do have some slight play to varying degrees where the front plates you have moving, move about 1 mm (of arc along their outer edge) and spring back for 2, but not the other. Should I replace all 4?
Yes
Hi man! Great video! My case is very complicated, i really need your advice.. I own Camaro 2011 V6 3.6 which throws P0008 P0016...
1. Timing Chain Replaced(Cloyes complete kit)
2. 4 Cam Phasers Replaced(OEM)
3. 4 Selenoids Replaced(OEM)
4. 4 Cam Sensors Replaced(ACDelco)
5. Crankshaft Sensor Replaced(ACDelco)
Unfortunately nothing changed.. Still same codes. My mechanics double checked alignment... My car is running sluggish,poor.. What should we do next? Pls help
Incorrect engine timing or chain is off one tooth. ECM detects deviation in crank and cam shaft position greater then 10 deg.
Were the correct washers installed for the phasers?4bolt and 5 bolt use diff washers
Reluctor ring (spun on crank) on crank is another possible failure point when all else fails!
Did you install two R's or two L's for the intake phasers? They are not interchangeable, there is a R intake phaser and a L intake phaser.
Can you send me the link to the timing chain and the cam lock tools please
www.amazon.ca/Camshaft-Retaining-Tools-Kent-Moore-EN-48383/dp/B01NGTZ6MZ
www.amazon.ca/Timing-Chain-Retainer-Alternative-EN-48313/dp/B01CUXNOKW
@@shanewalsh5493 thank you very much
I am a bit scared that i might mess up the timing
I am only changing two intake phasers
Will these work on my 2014 Mustang V6 3.7?
Good video
Did you have any codes after this happened?
Sometimes you get position performance codes because the phaser is not at the desired position via the ECM
That special tool is over $300
Improved on the LFX?
Yes, new style of chains
Could this caused three cylinder to misfire all the time? I have a 2010 Buick Enclave with three cylinder misfiring. I checked timing with an oscilloscope and the exhaust camshaft on bank2 is off by a lot(16 degrees retarded calculated). I think there is too much overlap on the valves and thats why they are misfiring. Did you also had a misfire on three cylinders?
It could cause a misfire due to valve overlap, direct injection will not work if the timing is off.. I would check to see if timing chains are bad.. Rear bank of engine?
@@shanewalsh5493 yes, rear bank. I will advice the customer today that we have to visually inspect the engine timing and go from there. Thank you.
Good info!!
Where can I buy that tool to tension the chain
www.amazon.ca/Timing-Chain-Retainer-Alternative-EN-48313/dp/B01CUXNOKW
Garbage disposal
Can I ask you a question, could a Traverse with a 3.6 engine be blocked like they do with the Ford CAM phasers?
Puedo hacerte una pregunta se podrían bloquear a una Traverse motor 3.6 como hacen con los Ford esos CAM phaser