Great video. Did my first ever real estate filming today with a sigma 18-35mm f1.8 and I was terrified..watching this here brings back more confidence to try again.
After a year, I'm finally getting serious about real estate video. Given that I still need to invoke some stabilization in post, which crops in, even the new Panasonic 18mm will be too narrow. Your solution with the 14mm Samyang (Rokinon) looks great. I can get one cheap if I go manual focus, but what about the adapter? I can get on for about $30 if I don't worry about supporting auto-focus. Do you have any concerns about getting a cheaper adapter that doesn't have any electronics in it?
Normally I use the method in my white balance video and use the ceiling as a gauge for white. I keep a grey card in my camera bag just in case I film a place without white ceilings though.
Thank you so much for this video! I shoot real estate photos and I'm really want to get into the real estate video market. Lately I've been feeling the S5 isn't the right camera for real estate video but seeing the few shots you've posted here I'm absolutely inspired again. Which time of day do you prefer shooting your houses? I also would really love to see more of your real estate videos with the S5 because there really isn't much out there shot in the S5. Lastly would you consider creating a video on shooting and editing vlog for real estate video with the S5. Thank you.
Thanks so much for watching! I actually send all my films straight to the agent and don't upload them to my own socials so I have nothing to link you to but I'll definitely consider making a video showing the process! I've got a few cool houses coming up that could make a great video. As far as time of day. I prefer early in the morning or later in the evening about 1.5 hours before the sun goes down... The light is more even so you don't have to blow out the windows as much when shooting however the agents always want to shoot in the middle of the day which makes it hard. The S5 is perfect for real estate with its dual native iso. One of the issues with other cameras is in darker rooms you can introduce a lot of noise if you have to bump the iso. The s series cameras just don't have that issue!
I've made another video about how I set white balance. I normally use a white roof or wall in a house to take my white level and reset it for each room.
I did shoot a few houses with the 20-60 at 20mm when I first got the camera before I had an adaptor and you can definitely make it work but a little wider is ideal. If you're getting started it's ok but I'm a big fan of investing in the correct equipment early as it has led to more bookings and more money for me in my business.
@@RoryandCasey Thanks for the reply, real estate will be a small part of my work so would rather avoid buying an adaptor and Canon glass specifically for it.
I actually have a preset I've made in final cut that is a de-fisheye preset. I made it using the fisheye effect in final cut and tweaked it till lines were straight.
I love this! And I have a question as I am also a Real Estate videographer but I'm new to it. Those problem that always happens to me is about balancing about interior exposure and exterior exposure while shooting interior like: in the bedroom and we want to show the view outside. When I want to show the view outside, I have to lower the exposure so we can see the views clearly but the interior exposure will be so dark. And if we want the interior to be bright, the outdoor views will be over-exposed. I'm using Sony A7 III and I would love to know how you balance both exposure with your S5 if you don't mind. Thank you so much!!
Great question! Honestly it's really difficult. 9 times out of 10 I have to blow out the windows to make the room bright enough. The reason for this is there is too much difference between the brightness outside and inside. There are two ways around this. Firstly make the room brighter with lighting which honestly is a pain. Secondly choose the right time of day to shoot either early in the morning or later in the evening when the light outside is softer and there is less of a difference between the two. That's really your only way around it!
@@RoryandCasey Thank you so much. One more question, please. How's your thought after using Sony and Lumix? One is better in your opinion? I'm using Sony but also considering of S5, too. I want to know it from you as you're already using it.
Honestly the difference between modern mirrorless cameras is not that great. All the major manufacturers make amazing cameras. Im a big fan of Panasonic for their colours, particularly skin tones, but I'd happily go and shoot real estate or a wedding with canon or Sony gear and feel comfortable I'd get great shots. If you have good gear just learn it well and you'll be right. No need to constantly switch to the newest thing.
A lot of cameras ibis will do funny things on a gimbal. Best practice is to turn it off when on a gimbal but I also don't notice anything strange when I leave it on
In final cut I've made a preset. I use the fisheye effect and set the amount to -0.5 and the radius to 0.48 and that removes most of the fisheye. Enough that it's not noticeable.
@@RoryandCasey 🙏🏽🙏🏽 I'm looking forward to shooting real estate. Your videos have given me alot of faith that I can do this as a secondary source of income with the same camera and lenses. So I thank you for that!!
Hi, I am seriously considering LUMIX s5 for real estate photography and videography. But I am little bit concerned how well it blends with other lens like Sony GM lens. I love using Sony lenses but not very sure how it wll go with it.
You won't be able to use your Sony lenses on the S5. Sony uses E mount and the S5 is an L mount camera. You can adapt old mirrorless lenses like EF, A, PL mount etc but not newer mirrorless lenses because the flange distance is pretty much identical amongst mirrorless cameras.
My wedding films are mostly on Instagram @r.j_visuals my real estate films get sent straight to the agents to post I don't post them on my own socials sorry!
First step is getting it correct in camera! Then it's just applying a technical lut (I use the one from gamut.io) and then making exposure and small colour adjustments. I don't try to be too creative with real estate. I just make the whites look white and have enough saturation to make everything look normal. I'll boost the shadows slightly to give it a light and airy feel but that's as creative as I get in real estate.
It depends on the house and the situation. Mostly with lights on but there are exceptions when the room looks amazing with lights off. That isn't very often though. Most houses windows are far too small for the area.
Hey man, great video would love to know the best way to keep the Roni from moving all over the palace when shooting👍 I have the s5 and it's my first camera but really enjoying it.
Do you mean the gimbal? Honestly it's just practice. I have all the motors turned down quite low at about 11 on the pan tilt and roll axis. Then small movements aren't as obvious. By default the gimbal is set to a much higher speed which makes it too responsive for my liking. I can make a video of my gimbal setup at some point if it would be helpful but truthfully you'll get it with practice!
got the same set-up i m really curius how you get rid the fisheye effect on video in post? i shoot in apsc mode in order to not be so fiseyeeee if you get what i mean , love the video mate, so helpful :)
Cheers mate! I've actually made my own preset in final cut to negate the distortion of this lens which is more of a moustache distortion than fisheye... I basically filmed a brick wall at distance and played with the distortion tools until I got all the vertical and horizontal pretty straight and then saved it as a preset. It's not perfect but it's close enough to straight. I just slap that preset onto all the clips using this lens
And another question 🙂: How do you attach the camera rig to the gimbal or tripod? I use an old tripod with a standard screw but my S1 is much too heavy for this kind of attachment. What can you recommend? Many thanks. Following...
Exactly right! I want to shoot all my real estate in 50 or 60p and maintain full frame so that's why 1080p. It also gives me smaller file sizes and a quicker turn around which for real estate is essential!
I have another video showing how to correctly set white balance using the S series cameras. Usually I use the white ceiling of a room to set in each room. Check out the other videos on my channel, it's not too far back
For me 20mm is just too tight for real estate. I want maximum 16mm but 14 is a sweet spot. Not sure of the exact weight but it’s not heavy. It’d be fine on the sc I think
@@RoryandCasey Thank you for the quick response! I see. I also have the Mc-21. Looking for a better real estate lens that will balance on the SC. I guess I’ll go with EF. Do you know if EFS(aps-c) works with the MC-21 on the s5? Thanks again.
I don't autofocus at all for real estate. I use a manual lens keep aputure as narrow as possible and set focus to infinity. In a wide angle that puts almost everything in focus
For repeatable shots like portraits af is fine for Lumix lenses particularly the 35mm otherwise I'll manually focus by hand or attach it to the rs2 and control focus via the front wheel
Sometimes I use a monitor but often I don't. The peaking works fine for me. Not as strong as the gh5 but I've gotten used to it and I'm accurately focussing using it
I'm really interested in your set up using HD? Most if my clients now want 4k - would you shoot 4k 60fps on this or does it crop? Amy other considerations- also do you slow down in editing to smooth shake? P.s. my wife's had coving too - try the b vitamins it really helped her
4k 60 has a crop which would make the 14mm lens a 21mm lens which is too tight for RE. Honestly most people are viewing properties on mobile devices so the difference between 1080p and 4k is non existent. There's no reason currently to deliver real estate in 4k in my opinion.
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I shoot on 1080p and upscaling it to 4k on export. Smooth like butter 😁
I'm testing in laowa 10 Cookies and The results are also great
Great information. 🙏🏻
Glad you found it useful!
Thanks for sharing all these tips
Thanks for watching!
Great job! Thanks for sharing these excellent tips as well as the gear.
Glad it was helpful!
As an S5 owner I have to sub immediately after watching this video. Thx!
Thanks for watching and joining!
Just got the S5. Thanks for these real estate videos!
no worries! Hope they were helpful!
Great video. Did my first ever real estate filming today with a sigma 18-35mm f1.8 and I was terrified..watching this here brings back more confidence to try again.
Awesome! If you can, try to use a wider lens. The 18-35 is apsc so it's actually 27 at the wide end which is way too tight for real estate.
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You're very welcome
Awesome videos you got, keep up the great work! Subbed :)
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Thanks for watching!
After a year, I'm finally getting serious about real estate video. Given that I still need to invoke some stabilization in post, which crops in, even the new Panasonic 18mm will be too narrow. Your solution with the 14mm Samyang (Rokinon) looks great. I can get one cheap if I go manual focus, but what about the adapter? I can get on for about $30 if I don't worry about supporting auto-focus. Do you have any concerns about getting a cheaper adapter that doesn't have any electronics in it?
Nice guy you must be! Respect that you posted this with covid symptoms! How do you set white balance in a room, with an xrite card?
Normally I use the method in my white balance video and use the ceiling as a gauge for white. I keep a grey card in my camera bag just in case I film a place without white ceilings though.
Thank you so much for this video! I shoot real estate photos and I'm really want to get into the real estate video market. Lately I've been feeling the S5 isn't the right camera for real estate video but seeing the few shots you've posted here I'm absolutely inspired again. Which time of day do you prefer shooting your houses? I also would really love to see more of your real estate videos with the S5 because there really isn't much out there shot in the S5. Lastly would you consider creating a video on shooting and editing vlog for real estate video with the S5. Thank you.
I really am so desperate to see what the S5 can do in regards to real estate video especially from someone like yourself
Thanks so much for watching! I actually send all my films straight to the agent and don't upload them to my own socials so I have nothing to link you to but I'll definitely consider making a video showing the process! I've got a few cool houses coming up that could make a great video.
As far as time of day. I prefer early in the morning or later in the evening about 1.5 hours before the sun goes down... The light is more even so you don't have to blow out the windows as much when shooting however the agents always want to shoot in the middle of the day which makes it hard.
The S5 is perfect for real estate with its dual native iso. One of the issues with other cameras is in darker rooms you can introduce a lot of noise if you have to bump the iso. The s series cameras just don't have that issue!
@@RoryandCasey That would be fantastic! I'm sure I'm not the only one looking for S5 real estate videos. Looking forward to seeing more of your work.
Do you simply eyeball the white balance on the screen or use a tool for that?
I've made another video about how I set white balance. I normally use a white roof or wall in a house to take my white level and reset it for each room.
Great content!!... Would you say 20mm is too long for real estate??
I did shoot a few houses with the 20-60 at 20mm when I first got the camera before I had an adaptor and you can definitely make it work but a little wider is ideal. If you're getting started it's ok but I'm a big fan of investing in the correct equipment early as it has led to more bookings and more money for me in my business.
@@RoryandCasey Thanks for the reply, real estate will be a small part of my work so would rather avoid buying an adaptor and Canon glass specifically for it.
That's fair! Try it and see you go!
Can you explain setting focus on infinity? I still don’t understand the infinity on focus
Great video for us S5 shooters. How do you get rid of the fish eye effect? Do you crop/zoom in in post? Thanks
I actually have a preset I've made in final cut that is a de-fisheye preset. I made it using the fisheye effect in final cut and tweaked it till lines were straight.
I love this! And I have a question as I am also a Real Estate videographer but I'm new to it. Those problem that always happens to me is about balancing about interior exposure and exterior exposure while shooting interior like: in the bedroom and we want to show the view outside. When I want to show the view outside, I have to lower the exposure so we can see the views clearly but the interior exposure will be so dark. And if we want the interior to be bright, the outdoor views will be over-exposed. I'm using Sony A7 III and I would love to know how you balance both exposure with your S5 if you don't mind. Thank you so much!!
Great question! Honestly it's really difficult. 9 times out of 10 I have to blow out the windows to make the room bright enough. The reason for this is there is too much difference between the brightness outside and inside. There are two ways around this. Firstly make the room brighter with lighting which honestly is a pain. Secondly choose the right time of day to shoot either early in the morning or later in the evening when the light outside is softer and there is less of a difference between the two. That's really your only way around it!
@@RoryandCasey Thank you so much. One more question, please. How's your thought after using Sony and Lumix? One is better in your opinion? I'm using Sony but also considering of S5, too. I want to know it from you as you're already using it.
Honestly the difference between modern mirrorless cameras is not that great. All the major manufacturers make amazing cameras. Im a big fan of Panasonic for their colours, particularly skin tones, but I'd happily go and shoot real estate or a wedding with canon or Sony gear and feel comfortable I'd get great shots. If you have good gear just learn it well and you'll be right. No need to constantly switch to the newest thing.
@@RoryandCasey Thank you so much for you advice! I really appreciate it!
do you turn the In body stability off or do you turn it on?
A lot of cameras ibis will do funny things on a gimbal. Best practice is to turn it off when on a gimbal but I also don't notice anything strange when I leave it on
What do you use to correct the fisheye in post? Thank you for this!
In final cut I've made a preset. I use the fisheye effect and set the amount to -0.5 and the radius to 0.48 and that removes most of the fisheye. Enough that it's not noticeable.
@@RoryandCasey WOW! That was quick! Thank so much! I will be testing it tomorrow.🙏🏽🙏🏽
No worries! Literally sitting editing a real estate video as I type so the settings were in front of me!
@@RoryandCasey 🙏🏽🙏🏽 I'm looking forward to shooting real estate. Your videos have given me alot of faith that I can do this as a secondary source of income with the same camera and lenses. So I thank you for that!!
Hi, I am seriously considering LUMIX s5 for real estate photography and videography. But I am little bit concerned how well it blends with other lens like Sony GM lens. I love using Sony lenses but not very sure how it wll go with it.
You won't be able to use your Sony lenses on the S5. Sony uses E mount and the S5 is an L mount camera. You can adapt old mirrorless lenses like EF, A, PL mount etc but not newer mirrorless lenses because the flange distance is pretty much identical amongst mirrorless cameras.
@@RoryandCasey thanks man, I just found that Panasonic s pro 16-35 f4 is a killer 😀. Now I am more of GAS🤣🤣. Thanks man
Is there a site where I can see your real estate and wedding films?
My wedding films are mostly on Instagram @r.j_visuals my real estate films get sent straight to the agents to post I don't post them on my own socials sorry!
Hi Rory what is you preferred method of grading vlog for real estate?
First step is getting it correct in camera! Then it's just applying a technical lut (I use the one from gamut.io) and then making exposure and small colour adjustments. I don't try to be too creative with real estate. I just make the whites look white and have enough saturation to make everything look normal. I'll boost the shadows slightly to give it a light and airy feel but that's as creative as I get in real estate.
@@RoryandCasey Thanks Rory last question do you prefer shooting with the lights in or off?
It depends on the house and the situation. Mostly with lights on but there are exceptions when the room looks amazing with lights off. That isn't very often though. Most houses windows are far too small for the area.
@@RoryandCasey Thank you Rory!
@@RoryandCasey Hi Rory which lut if you don't mind me asking
Hey man, great video would love to know the best way to keep the Roni from moving all over the palace when shooting👍 I have the s5 and it's my first camera but really enjoying it.
Do you mean the gimbal? Honestly it's just practice. I have all the motors turned down quite low at about 11 on the pan tilt and roll axis. Then small movements aren't as obvious. By default the gimbal is set to a much higher speed which makes it too responsive for my liking. I can make a video of my gimbal setup at some point if it would be helpful but truthfully you'll get it with practice!
@@RoryandCasey Would love to see the video if you haven’t made it already
Go do you wall power the camera? Link for 9V 3amp USB charger? I can’t find any
I only ever power via USB or internal battery
got the same set-up i m really curius how you get rid the fisheye effect on video in post? i shoot in apsc mode in order to not be so fiseyeeee if you get what i mean , love the video mate, so helpful :)
Cheers mate!
I've actually made my own preset in final cut to negate the distortion of this lens which is more of a moustache distortion than fisheye... I basically filmed a brick wall at distance and played with the distortion tools until I got all the vertical and horizontal pretty straight and then saved it as a preset. It's not perfect but it's close enough to straight. I just slap that preset onto all the clips using this lens
@@RoryandCasey thats really nice idea, i ll check if i can do something similar in resolve, thanks and keep up those vids :)
What MOUNT are you using for SAMYANG lens?
I have the EF version with a sigma EF-L mount adapters
And another question 🙂: How do you attach the camera rig to the gimbal or tripod? I use an old tripod with a standard screw but my S1 is much too heavy for this kind of attachment. What can you recommend? Many thanks. Following...
All my tripods take an arca Swiss plate which is what the Ronin rs2 also takes so the gimbal plate fits into my tripods perfectly fine!
Great video. Why do you need 1080p to shoot full frame? 4k 30p is also full frame. Or do you want to have 60p?
Exactly right! I want to shoot all my real estate in 50 or 60p and maintain full frame so that's why 1080p. It also gives me smaller file sizes and a quicker turn around which for real estate is essential!
@@RoryandCasey Are you slowing them down to 24p?
@blanche027 yep just to get everything a bit more stable
Next question: How do you determine the correct white balance?
I have another video showing how to correctly set white balance using the S series cameras. Usually I use the white ceiling of a room to set in each room. Check out the other videos on my channel, it's not too far back
How’s the 20-60mm kit for wide shots? Is that sufficient? Also, how many grams is the 14mm EF + adapter. I use a ronin sc. Thanks in advance.
For me 20mm is just too tight for real estate. I want maximum 16mm but 14 is a sweet spot.
Not sure of the exact weight but it’s not heavy. It’d be fine on the sc I think
@@RoryandCasey Thank you for the quick response! I see. I also have the Mc-21. Looking for a better real estate lens that will balance on the SC. I guess I’ll go with EF. Do you know if EFS(aps-c) works with the MC-21 on the s5? Thanks again.
Yep efs lenses will work but you'll obviously need to crop into apsc mode
Hi, how do you deal with AF when shooting on the gimbal?
Most say isn't reliable..
Thanks!
I don't autofocus at all for real estate. I use a manual lens keep aputure as narrow as possible and set focus to infinity. In a wide angle that puts almost everything in focus
how do you handle the notorious lumix AF with a gimbal?
For real estate I'm using manual lenses. Set it to infinity and on a wide lens everything is in focus.
good to know wide lens is enough to expand the DOF. What about weddings?
For repeatable shots like portraits af is fine for Lumix lenses particularly the 35mm otherwise I'll manually focus by hand or attach it to the rs2 and control focus via the front wheel
I'd like to see how you do that. The focus assist on the lumix wasn't clear enough in my application. External monitor?
Sometimes I use a monitor but often I don't. The peaking works fine for me. Not as strong as the gh5 but I've gotten used to it and I'm accurately focussing using it
I'm really interested in your set up using HD? Most if my clients now want 4k - would you shoot 4k 60fps on this or does it crop? Amy other considerations- also do you slow down in editing to smooth shake?
P.s. my wife's had coving too - try the b vitamins it really helped her
4k 60 has a crop which would make the 14mm lens a 21mm lens which is too tight for RE. Honestly most people are viewing properties on mobile devices so the difference between 1080p and 4k is non existent. There's no reason currently to deliver real estate in 4k in my opinion.