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Ever wondered why SERBIA always LOSES in EU4?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ม.ค. 2022
- Ever wondered why SERBIA always LOSES in eu4? In this detail we go into depth as to why Serbia loses in EU4. The eu4 Balkans is a popular place in Europa universalis 4. We now go into detail of why the eu4 nation Serbia gets killed by the Ottomans!
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The problem not that serbia is weak but that ottomans are very strong and that's historically accurate
No the problem is that serbia doesn’t own all of world (historically accurate)🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸
@@sanyika3641 I do like how the game is being accurate and making suer Kosovo is owned by Serbia and not alb*nia
@@goosehonkernot5201 based Albania is Serbian land!!!!!🇷🇸🇦🇱🇷🇸🇦🇱🇷🇸🇦🇱🇷🇸🇦🇱🇷🇸
serbia strong 🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸
Kosovo je srbija love from Finland 🇫🇮❤️🇷🇸!!!!
I imagine if EU4 music is played in a club men and women will automatically separate
Funny thing is, Bosnia attacked Serbia shortly before the start date but they still have the Historical Friend modifier
Dont look at it as Bosnia attacking Serbia. Its more of a one Serbian state attacking another. So basically Serbian regional lords fighting each other.
@@DelijeSerbia Bosnia has always been a Serbian country, I know that
@@DelijeSerbia Bosnia Is Serbian And Partially Croatian.
It's More Like A Brother War Like Austria Vs Germany.
*Friends Fight*
@@zvaramartin No. Bosnia is Bosnian. It doesn't matter what religion or anything like that. Bosnia literally had its own church and were quite looked down on by catholics, which is why rulers ussualy represented themselves as catholics. Even in the scroll by Kulin Ban you can see that it was written in Bosnian script and language, which also showed that we were literate. The problem is you Serbians claiming everything, if a lot of us Bosnian took Islam that doesn't change our nationality. Stop living in the medieval ages and see a diffrence between nationality and religion.
Pozdrav.
History : Bosnia attacked Serbia, and Serbia won
EU4: *Historical Friends*
It would be more accurate if Ragusa was the historical friend of Bosnia since the two had a alliance and trade agreement dating centures
But we are friends 👀
@@tekaklk928 Shouldn't Serbia and Ragusa be historical friends, because Ragusa was the strongest during Nemanjić's time and was in the strongest form then.
@@sv4110 Ragusa reached its peak just after the other Balkan states fell to the Ottomans as it got comercial leverage exporting salt to the Ottomans which it had the exclusive right to do. Id say its more accurate to say Bosnia becouse the two had a alliance for over a 300+ years at that point and much of the Bosnian nobilaty had the status of dual nobilaty within the Ragusan republic (Kosače for example). This even extended in to the arts and literature where Ragusa would preserve Bosnian literature for a following 100ish years. The friendly relationship was so good infact that Ottoman Bosnian govenors would aid Ragusa in several occasions even if it would harm the Ottoman Porte.
@@tekaklk928 Well technically Bosnia also fought wars against Ragusa including Kosaca at some point. You guys are looking at this wrong. There wasn't really any friendship between countries as that would be a wrong word to use for that period. There was "friendship" between certain nobles and Republic. Republic was making them all rich so if they have a good trade deal with Ragusa then they were best friends but if not it is a different story.
Tbh I barely got "Lazarus" achievement years ago. It was mind-blowing to see also DDRJake back then fail I think. Serbia is hard man.
It's definitely a hard one. You can get Bosnia and Herzegovina easily and if you're lucky, take some provinces off Venice. But after that it's a struggle.
I honestly never had a hard game with Serbia. I always ally Hungary and Poland, get my cores back from the Ottos. Join the HRE, then kick their asses for 50 more years. Leave the HRE kick Austria's ass. Own all of Balkans and even half of Italy. Done it like 3 times in a row
Love how the flag is the serbian eagle with the shield photoshoped out
well my friend... you see... the shield wasn't there in that time period... there was just the red flag, and the 2 headed eagle
I like to think that they clumsily removed the shield in an early build of the game.
The flag is pretty shit when compared to other two-headed eagles.
This was super interesting, thanks for sharing your research with us!
>plays as Serbia
>releases Montenegro
>allies Ottomans
>wait until end of game and win war against Ottomans
this is historically accurate Montenegro
You need to take Kotor back from Venice first
@@perapapic3683 - Serbia and + Kosovo
In one of my games, Serbia got it's final revenge against The Ottomans in the 1500's with the help of Austria and after The Ottomans lost Constantinople to Poland and was cut out from all the Serbian cores
In one of my multiplayer games, the Ottomans were completely wiped out by Austria and Eretna before my friend, playing Muscovy/Russia, even got to the Black Sea coast. Previously, we had thought that he would have had to fight against them.
Edit: While looking over the timeline footage I recorded, Russia actually did get a province by the Black Sea a few years before the Ottomans were actually wiped out, but by then, they were a landlocked opm in the Balkans, and were quickly absorbed by Austria.
There were only two players, and noone was playing as Austria. The AI can get a bit weird.
Russia annexing Zaporozhie happened in 1553, and the Ottoman Empire fell in 1556. Also, the war against Eretna that reduced the Ottomans to one province occurred the year following the Russian annexation of Zaporozhie, so I got my previous statement wrong. These timelapses are quick, so it’s easy to make initial mistakes.
I am very pleasantly surprised at how accurate your retelling of the Serbian medieval history is. The sole thing I'd expand upon is the why of the Battle of Kosovo. You did very well to explain how important it is to Serbian national identity, but I feel like you should have mentioned WHY we take so much pride in, what was essentially, a loss. The reason is the fact that, during the battle, a (possibly fictional) Serbian national hero named Milos Obilic killed the Ottoman sultan, and that lead to a massive Civil War in the ottoman empire which (combined with the ottomans sustaining heavier casualties at the battle of Kosovo than expected) slowed the ottoman advance into Europe significantly.
The battle of Kosovo is a Serbian victory. But it was Pir's victory. And Milos Kobilic existed and probably comes from Herzegovina
i don't know what your schools teach you but after death of Murat the hüdevandigar nothing happened. The Ottoman Ciwil War happened after Murat's son Bayezit taken captive by Timur after Ankara War.
@@sv4110 How was that a victory? We retreated during the battle
@@humanred4706 The Serbs won the Battle of Kosovo because the Ottomans withdrew from the battlefield.
@@sv4110 Druže mi smo se prvo povukli pa tek oni
Đurađ had a massive personal wealth though, he had a good amount of land in Hungary and was one of the richest rulers in Europe at that point
Would note that at the time Moravian Serbia willingly became an Ottoman vassal in order to seek protection from Sigismund of Hungary. It was a little more complicated than just Christian vs Muslim in the Balkans.
‘There should be another video popping up now’
It’s been 22 hours, and there’s nothing else.
I will push for EU4, but point and click only until the day I die.
that dance club thing sounds incredibly awkward please don’t do it
i would love to see it, gold content xd
Instead they could ask the organist of the Ulmer Münster to play one or two songs
Thank you very much for the video, love from Serbia
Everyone wants a piece of Kosovo 😢
Even Americans
@@sv4110 even Navajos
Good video, but as a Serb I think that if we were not that lazy in battle of Marica we could be stronger in 15th century.
We weren't lazy, that is a complete historical lie. The only reason we lost at Marica in 1371. AD and Kosovo in 1389. AD is because our magnates and lesser lords watched their own interests instead of saving the Empire. None of them saw the Turkish threat and let Vukašin and Uglješa fight the Turks on their own at Marica which marked the beginning of the end for the Medieval Serbian state (Not counting Herzegovina and Bosnia, which outlived the Despotate). If the magnates had been united serving the Emperor and saving what remained of the Serbian Empire (Everything except from the Byzantine lands in Greece), we would've won. We had a pretty good army and a lot of veterans, but as I said, disloyalty and ambition of the mostly selfish and stupid magnates led to the destruction of the Empire and a quick fall of their own dominions to the Ottomans.
We had a massive victory against the turks on Plocnik in 1387
Well they have Hungary, Ottos, Venice and later Austria on their Neck.
I mean when all your neighbours that are massive empires want to destroy you its actually a surprise we even survived as a people as many of other similar nations and peoples didn't.
Im a Serb myself and I think that we as people are very stubborn so not choosing to ally(get vassalised) by any of the major powers at our borders plays a big part in it , IMO Serbia was strongest ever when It was a vassal of the Ottomans.
Šta baljezgaš ti?
sta ? Bili smo najjaci kad smo bili Carstvo.
Serbian heavy knights under Lazarevic helped Bayezid greatly in key battles (Nicopolis, Ankara comes to mind)
@@SVTDI zato smo i propali baka
O čemu ti to pričaš brate
KOSOVO JE SRBIJA
KOSOVO JE TURKEY💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
Yeah sure why not
косово припада на зеленортска острва
Kosova is Germany
kosowo jest polskie
Timur didn't capture the sultanate he captured the sultan
Saying timur captured the sultanate is like saying he captured the kingdom
I played Serbia couple times and just couldn't survive. I played Bosnia once, because _per aspera ad astra_ is a motto of mine, and had a great time! Even getting a personal union over France for free with a Habsburger on the throne.
Its due to in paradox you have some Bosnian developers so they need to be alot of innacurate to please them.JUts run Ai timeplaspes and many times Bosnia every time beats Serbia in wars and is for some reason way more powerful than it was in reality.
just to know , back in the time serb were rulers of today albania , and there were no albanian ruler , after crnojevic dinasty it becames ottoman land and they bring shqpitar into balkan , after first balkan war , shqpitar got first country ever without fighting for it, so serbs , montenegrins , greeks and bulgarian fought so shjqptar can get a country by the help of austro hungaria so serbia cant get access to sea
Well done video, thank you for giving insight into our small but proud Balkan nation to a wider audience that might be interested about the topic of the region in this era of history. Cheers!
its funny how in irl serbian helped byzantium while in game there msission are to become new byzantium by converting constantinopoel to serbia
Well that was the goal of Emperor Dusan.
If by help you mean "occasionally sent token support in between rebellions and conquering of land" then sure...
Also Serbia should have access to the sea in 1444,because Venice had only part of Montenegrin coast
Play as Cornwall and form Great Britain
There were not 50,000 soldiers in the battle of Marica, but only 10,000. 50,000 soldiers is an exaggeration. And the battle was lost because the guards were poorly placed at night.
Trust Wikipedia, or, random guy in TH-cam comments.
@@whyops Both are written by randoms with their own beliefs and biases
70.000*
@Aq Qoyunlu The number of 50,000 to 70,000 Serb soldiers is largely coming from Ottoman sources. But that's where the problem arises. The Ottomans liked to invent all sorts of things in favor of Islam. That's why they kept writing about christians being drunk or big sinners and that's why they lose. Serbian soldiers were said to be drunk. Ottoman sources should not be taken as valid because there is a lot of exaggeration and invention to better represent the Muslim army and Muslims. Most Christian historians claim that the Serbian Army consisted of 10,000 soldiers.Because 70,000 soldiers, no one in Europe could have, let alone a Serbian ruler.
@Aq Qoyunlu Sources too can be biased in favour of one party involved or another, just like the other person in this thread is saying.
The only time it survived was when i reconquered the balkans as byzantium
its so weird to hear a Tunisian talk about history of your own country
No but it‘s 1 am and i click everything eu4 related my sleep deprived brain finds interesting
Stefan Lazarevic was the real deffinition of Knight, Serbia tho small at the time was very famous and inffluencial, even Timur admired Serbian cavalry in battle of Ankara, i think that they need to buff Serbia a little its always interesting to see another strong nation in Balkan
"Perhaps it would have been differenet if christian europe sent their support"
king władysław warneńczyk: am I a joke to you
SocialStreamer: I am sure everyone played Serbia before.
Me 1 minute after playing Serbia: *Sees Austria to the North, Hungary to the NorthEast, and Ottoman to the East.
*Alt F4.*
I will get the Lazarus achievement one day but i must become better player first
wow! i bet everyone in the nightclub is gonna be "enthralled" & "ecstatic" to hear EU4 music on a night out partying!
I don't want to concern you but I come from Germany and I am pretty sure clubs and bars are closed at the moment due to covid 19 restrictions.
How do you do that panoramic camera rotation?
Afaik you need a controller
Great video!
To Survive As Serbia The Best Thing Is To Save Byzantium And Make It Comeback.
A Resurgent Byzantium Is Surely Less Of A Threat Than The Ottomans.
alright im subscribing, but i GOTTA see germans in ulm dancing around while eu4 music plays in the nightclub.
Oh yes serbia my land such a mess 😂😂😂 thank you for makeing this video, it was accurate (to my knowlage), other then the name pronouncings everything was great!
In one of My Game Croatia annexed Serbia for some Reason
Were they singing danke deutschland?
One of my best EU4 games was as Bosnia My power was from eating Serbia before the ottomans could.
Then join the HRE to ensure they never attacked
See I would actually want to go to a party where The Stonemasons or The Battle of Lepanto was playing.
Well playing around ottocucks in 1444 startdate, if you ain’t Mameluks, is super hard
Why not go to Ulm Minster and ask the organist there (if there is one) to play EU4 music?
i just realized you two were separate TH-camrs. i am not smart.
Try to play and win( take at least half of europe) as Serbia! 😁
That will take a long time, maybe only Balkan region
@@emirhanylmaz6731 I did it before 1524
@@aleksandarmanojlovic4988 good job!
THANK YOU MY BROTHER FOR VIDEO ABOUT SERBIA BEST REGARDS FROM SERBIA !!!
No way they gonna let y’all play EU4 music at the club💀 I’d have to see that
Bosnia is the more fun in normal game for me but serbia is rly good and funny to play in 1356 mod
Serbs won the Battle of Kosovo!
kurac smo pobedili
@@stefanito_m4354 To je bila pirova pobeda, Turci su se povukli sa Kosova, ne mi. Sad sto je i Lazar poginuo i sto je njegov naslednik bio maloletan je neka druga prica.
@@DelijeSerbia nama je trebela pobeda dok je njima odgovaralo nereseno, isto kao i srbija-portugal xd
@@stefanito_m4354 nije ti to fudbal. Mozes da kazes da smo izgubili rat, ali ne i bitku.
@@stefanito_m4354 pa pobedili smo ali to je bila pirova pobeda sa puno gubitaka.
SERBIAAAAA!!!111
I am going to stop playing this game if you all do that I swear to God 😭
kosovo 120,000 vs 40,000 Serbia at 40,000 people and won
hell na what are those pronunciations
can you tell me what did heppend to slovenia?
i mean they are conquert nearly forever by Austria, but they are not speaking german
Until 1991, Slovenia never had its own state.
@@sv4110 thats right but i cant understand that why this is happend
@@kekman1997Slovenians are western slavs, just like czechs and poles but beacuse of austria and yugoslavia their language was heavily influenced and therefore was slovene created. The only reason they got to be a country is beacuse of yugoslavia and panslavic movement
Don't use orthodox icons for your video thumbnail it is highly offensive.
I want to stop working and play eu4. Damn you rent payments!
Because the game likes to be historically accurate sometimes :v
A recent multiplayer game i have with a friend ai serbia and ai mamluks partitioned the Ottomans lmao
where you from dude?
an ulmer nightclub playing eu4 music sounds too good to be true
Kosovo je Srbija
How my Ironman Serbia game whent:
I spilt Bosnia 50% 50% with Hungary (that way they still liked me) i attacked Hercegovina then Ragusa attacked Hercegovina so i made Hercegovina my vassal so i could eat up Ragusa in a defensive war. Then i allied Austria, Poland and the Mamulks by playing sending gifts, Scornful Insults... afther that i had Austria, Hungary, Poland and the Mamulks beat the shit out of the Ottomans for my first 3 wars. Then i annexed Hercegovina, poped out Byzantium, fought Albanian and Venice took all of Albanian and my core from Venice and gave Byzantium one Island from Venice. Fought the Ottomans again took back all of Byzantiums cores poped out Bulgaria gave them all there cores. Kicked the Ottomans out of the Balkens dipl Vassaled Theodoro and feed like 10 provinces. Hungary broke our allience so me Poland and Austria beat it up till i had half of Hungary. It was all great then Poland called me into a war against Spaine and Frence we got destroy and had to release Wallachia, Montenegro, Hercegovina.
Fun fact sometime near the start date Serbia was under the junior partner under a Bosnian personal union
Serbia has never been under a personal union with Bosnia
@@sv4110 You can go to wikipedia and see for your self that in 1458-9 the ruler of Serbia was the Bosnian king Stjepan Tomasevic under whom the Serbian state fell to the Ottomans.
@@tekaklk928 Who himself was Serbian
@@yeemless6154 but was the king of bosnia
@@bleddynwolf8463 Yeah, a Serbian medieval state
Mainly because Ottomans seek expansion and Serbia is in the way without any strong ally.
Everyone wants that Kosovo gold mine yo
Yeah, we were always someone else's bitch...
no
good Videos,...BUT the Way you talking is sooooo annoying.Every Sentence sounds the same
😎
Secerfice must be made.
If Serbia left the Byzantines alone they would never have been conquered by the Turks.
In the current situation good luck finding an open night club in Ulm.
Please do me a favour and never "d"evolve to the next ludia et historia
Love your videos
:o
Serbia? did you mean Kosovo Gold Mine?
well yes,but actually no
Oof, you covered Serbia. Prepare for the toxicity and ultranationalist levels in the comments to go up extremely.
Serbia never lose. It’s an illusion!!!
Fun fact during the battle of Kosovo most noblemen who took part werent even serbian, 2 of them were serbian (Prince Lazar and Vuk Brankovic)
1 was Bosnian (Vlatko Vukovic)
1 was Croatian (John Palisna)
3 were Albanians (Dhimiter Jonima, Teodor Muzaka, Andrea gropa, and other aristocrats)
Of the soldiers who fought during the battle it were Serbs, Hungarians, Albanians, Croats, Bosniaks, Bulgarians and some knights hospitaller.
lmao
😂😂😂
@@DelijeSerbia @Gaja
You laugh but its even proven on Wikipedia, the Battle of Kosovo wasnt a battle where just serbs fought
hahhahaj. But you are funny. But I looked at the profile and everything was clear to me. Only Serbs and mercenaries of from Hungary took part in the Kosovo battle on the Serbian side.
You don't get to have that profile picture and also have a valid opinion. Albanians even believe that all of greece and greek people are Albanian, and they believe that they started the ottoman empire.
Nothing I've heard an Albanian say about history has ever been true.