Is RAGUSA the most UNDERRATED nation in EU4?

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  • EU4 Ragusa is one of the least played nations in EU4, which is a shame because it's also one of the most interesting! You might recall my EU4 Theodoro and EU4 Athens campagins, this one is up there in terms of difficulty! We have to contend with EU4 Ottomans.. but at least we restore Byzantium! I'll warn you, there's coalitions and more in this Ragusa run - you could even call it an EU4 guide!
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ความคิดเห็น • 155

  • @Theiupsilon
    @Theiupsilon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +403

    The Ulm promises are getting weirder and weirder by the episode and I'm all for it

    • @deadmemelord7360
      @deadmemelord7360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I can’t wait for him to say there gonna make a new country that’s just ulm at some point

    • @TheColombianSpartan
      @TheColombianSpartan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@deadmemelord7360 i would instantly join

  • @tromedlovdrolmai
    @tromedlovdrolmai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Fun Fact: Since you released the Byzantines as a vassal, you can spend favors with the ottomans to get them to retur5n Byzantine Cores. It'll be expensive Favor-wise, but could be worth it

    • @FoggyMcFogFace
      @FoggyMcFogFace 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Got all of Syria from the Mamluks like that a few times, I love doing that to my long-term allies. Constant curry favors, get all the cores, annex, BAM I have your land now and you still love me

    • @krisrecke72
      @krisrecke72 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In my Navarra game I did this against France, making them SLOWLY give back Gascony

  • @noneofyourbusiness3288
    @noneofyourbusiness3288 2 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    Permanent 5% dev-cost from missions and the ability to form Dalmatia? Sounds like a fun little nation.

  • @legionofbulgaria4657
    @legionofbulgaria4657 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    I did a ragusa game recently, got its achievement by 1486
    And became a gp by around 1500

  • @patrykpiekarz1263
    @patrykpiekarz1263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    This series has now just turned into Laith getting an unhealthy addiction to fight neverending waves of coalitions

    • @TheSocialStreamers
      @TheSocialStreamers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Unhealthy?

    • @TheJonnyjoh
      @TheJonnyjoh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheSocialStreamers You just wait... Your arrival in Ulm will just be an excuse for your viewerbase to have an intervention with you xD

  • @grimreaper492
    @grimreaper492 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    An easy way to fight ottomans as byzantium without brekaing the truce is to immediately attack Ragusa after the first war, since Ottomans gurantee them from the start of the game.

  • @Dylan-gc4he
    @Dylan-gc4he 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I think avaria would be a neat campaign after this. Vassal state horde opm with an achievement that sends you to hungary

    • @NemJani
      @NemJani 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree, but Avaria isn't a horde. I kinda wish it was though. :)

    • @drafmine4526
      @drafmine4526 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Conquer Bavaria as Avaria

    • @TheSocialStreamers
      @TheSocialStreamers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I was considering it! It was either Ragusa or Avaria!

  • @TheSocialStreamers
    @TheSocialStreamers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    What do we reckon boys? Does it deserve a second part?

    • @Mons761
      @Mons761 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes

    • @youbgemer7196
      @youbgemer7196 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      THE MOST UNDERATED NATION IS TLEMCEN EVREYONE KNOW IT EXIST BUT ITS PLAYERS ARE VERY VERY RARE CUZ PARADOX DIDNT UPDATE IT

    • @kekman1997
      @kekman1997 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      u have steal my comment D:

    • @richardbraakman7469
      @richardbraakman7469 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah but fight Venice not Ottomans. I want to see some republic on republic action

    • @nmk8475
      @nmk8475 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hell yeah

  • @LedosKell
    @LedosKell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Laith: "I'm going to Ulm to restore the Holy Roman Empire, Byzantium, and Roman North Africa once we reach 100k subscribers."

  • @CoffeeSuccubus
    @CoffeeSuccubus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Trapping soldiers on islands is the best stra you can literally do
    I did that once as the Mamluks. The entire 42k Ottoman army was trapped on Naxos after I yeeted their weakened navy. When they peaced with venice, their whole army was disbanded

  • @elenna_alexia
    @elenna_alexia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Dithmarschen run, only take the most democratic reforms and ideas and spread democracy in the HRE. I wanna see this now

  • @doesntmakeanysence2u
    @doesntmakeanysence2u 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    transition from 3:35 to 3:37 is a bit strange... cheeky reload spotted?

    • @joshf7321
      @joshf7321 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw that to. Interesting...

  • @HBending1
    @HBending1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Great video as always! 😎
    As a Croat I must say this would be very interesting if our history actually played out like this 🤣
    Also something suited for this pandemic time... Did you know that Ragusa actually had a quarantine back in 16th century for foreign merchants on small island close to Dubrovnik? 😅

    • @dakedakinson64
      @dakedakinson64 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you know Ragusa bought almost all of their territory from Serbian king? On Peljesac island there is still orthodox church.

    • @HBending1
      @HBending1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@dakedakinson64 That' so cool! 🙂 Is there still an archieve of the purchase in a museum somewhere? That Church was built in 10th century, 100 years before the Schism when Christianity was still united so thats why the purchase was made 😅. There was no Orthodox/Catholic tensions yet.

    • @dakedakinson64
      @dakedakinson64 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HBending1 there were Orthodox and Catholic Church way before Schism. Does Mihailo Vojislavljevic name sound Croatian to you?

    • @djapanda4534
      @djapanda4534 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@HBending1 well there were tensions after the coronation of charlamagne which was in the 9th century 200 years before the schism

    • @k.a.2253
      @k.a.2253 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dakedakinson64 there are also catholic churches in serbia, very old ones, proving what?

  • @sviti6105
    @sviti6105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally someone played Ragusa, we were super powerful with trade, so it could be more realistic, but i appreciate what was done.

  • @pileofcheese5017
    @pileofcheese5017 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Go for the Ragusa achievement
    (With a little help... : 'As Ragusa, lead a Trade League of at least 5 nations and guarantee the Ottomans’ independence.')

  • @lazygerbil4337
    @lazygerbil4337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really like your new style of making videos, man! Hope you are doing well!

  • @thotten2860
    @thotten2860 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A tip is that to form Dalmatia there is a cap how many provinces you can have when you do it. Like 5 or something

  • @k.a.2253
    @k.a.2253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It has Croatian mission tree, l remember playing Ragusa few years ago when there was no dlc with map changes to balkans area so l always went to create croatia as ragusa

  • @hmmm728
    @hmmm728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I played as dithmarshen and as a democracy. It was really fun and rewarding because the start is not *that* easy but the morale boost is really nice

  • @theicepickthatkilledtrotsk658
    @theicepickthatkilledtrotsk658 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ragusa now known as Dubrovnik was one of the most important cities on the Adriatic. Fun fact the city was the main filming location for King's Landing in the GOT tv show.

  • @BulldogLawyer
    @BulldogLawyer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I’ve noticed you rarely set war targets for your allies (like one would to get their vassals to target a specific province). Is there a reason you do this?

    • @rey_8834
      @rey_8834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      idk about for you, but whenever i set war targets for allies, they never listen. usually only my vassals do

    • @IceNinja18
      @IceNinja18 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@rey_8834 Same, sometimes it seems like they actively avoid the set war goal as well.

  • @wildabeastreal
    @wildabeastreal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Every video gets me more hyped for the Ulm trip.

  • @tobibe8942
    @tobibe8942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So you mentioned people watching your videos that don’t have clue about EU4. I have a astounding six hours in the game and am not really playing the game but I do have a reason why I do watch the video’s.
    I enjoy the vibe. You seem like a pretty cool and chill dude and I like to listen to that.
    Easy as that really.
    Well, back to the vid for me.

    • @TheSocialStreamers
      @TheSocialStreamers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for leaving this comment mate! Really appreciate it

  • @matheusGMN
    @matheusGMN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh hey a campaign where you're the main character! That's new! although I gotta say it just doesn't feel right like Burgundy turning into Lotharingia... haha x)

  • @CherriPicking
    @CherriPicking 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i would absolutely recommend a dithmarschen republican playthrough- i got the early reich achievement as dithmarschen, it's such a fun campaign.

  • @abedfo88
    @abedfo88 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Ragusa, being guaranteed gives you the perfect excuse to be ultra aggressive.

  • @metaclownfish5921
    @metaclownfish5921 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ragusa’s map color is really nice

  • @mrttripz3236
    @mrttripz3236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should try a trade game Switzerland. It’s a really stupid strat but you can get Genoese and Venetian land very easily.

  • @rollingfeeta4699
    @rollingfeeta4699 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What made the naple army not engage your 4stacks? Looked pretty sus there with the editing.

  • @bapabs
    @bapabs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A second part definitely has potential!

  • @lorrdy7640
    @lorrdy7640 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I would live near Ulm just to meet you both

  • @Camme69
    @Camme69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    150k subscriber goal: Go to Okinawa (Ryukyu)

  • @lukaravlic9398
    @lukaravlic9398 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd recommend Croatia aswell. They have the same missions, are bigger and in a better position. You start as a PU under Hungary, so you can ask their rivals to support independence, making them your allies after who will help you take on the Ottomans. I got supported by Poland, Aragon and Bohemia and I swallowed the Balkans with their help.

  • @broforce5053
    @broforce5053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you do a full democratic campaign I feel it would be fun. Ps would be cool if start in the netherlands

  • @windingo9970
    @windingo9970 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:35 my dude knew, he was fukd up

  • @ilyasopdekkbeat8534
    @ilyasopdekkbeat8534 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone know how to deal with (separitist) rebels? Always when i conquer lot of land i get loads of rebels and i cant focus on my wars

  • @Cheater5445
    @Cheater5445 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A perfect video to eat cheesecake with strawberries to

    • @TheSocialStreamers
      @TheSocialStreamers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This might be the highest compliment I’ve ever received

    • @goofygoober1816
      @goofygoober1816 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can I have some

    • @Cheater5445
      @Cheater5445 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@goofygoober1816 be my guest

  • @begtodiffer157
    @begtodiffer157 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a huge fan of Ragusa, have been for a while

  • @MagnificientLlama
    @MagnificientLlama 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Played ragusa, ended with super strong and RICH dalmatia.

  • @kylekelly1167
    @kylekelly1167 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should have built a fort on Bosnia it's hills with a river crossing.

  • @casssaph2287
    @casssaph2287 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    make sure to build favors with ottomans so you can ask them for byzantine cores!
    but also make sure not to cut off their territory by demanding the cores. if a nation has two blobs of land that are disconnected they'll desire the land thats making them disconnected and thatll make them haaaate you
    may not be an issue in these coastal areas tho cause that might constitute as a connection

  • @empireofitalypsstimfromano5025
    @empireofitalypsstimfromano5025 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ragusa: *Has Mission Tree*
    Trebizond: *Dosen't*
    Paradox When They Were Making The Mission Trees: Do I Pick The One With Black Or Red Stripes?
    Mmm...
    I'm Sure Both Of These Nations Don't Matter Anyway And Didn't Have Any Special Heritage With Them Whatsoever So I Will Pick The Cooler One.

  • @PsYDaniel
    @PsYDaniel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cant wait for him to notice he cant form Dalmatia anymore because of his size.

  • @pauljackson6802
    @pauljackson6802 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I clenched cheeks with that Naples war. That was nearly a game over, video deleted, grab a coffee ☕

  • @alfabetet7489
    @alfabetet7489 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you actually travel to Ulm, i might buy a train ticket there myself

  • @jackgarrett6366
    @jackgarrett6366 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You missed out on one of the best parts of Ragusa! Forming Dalmatia and getting their god-tier ideas! -10 Social Karma.

    • @danshakuimo
      @danshakuimo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He probably wants to finish most of the mission tree first I would think, though maybe they do share the same tree I need to check.

    • @alcazar9266
      @alcazar9266 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danshakuimo ragusa and croatia have the same mission tree, dalmatia doesnt have a mission tree and just keeps the old one.

  • @ThatsNotEnglish
    @ThatsNotEnglish 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm confused, what are you rallying against in Ulm?

  • @Matso444
    @Matso444 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    its probably better to mothball forts you cant afford then delete them, it will cost about 200 ducats to get any of those back in the long run, and theyre quite useful to prevent your lands from being totally overrun and your economy tanking in times of need

  • @comradepingu6394
    @comradepingu6394 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Next video: I will start a stateless society in ULM

  • @derAlphabet
    @derAlphabet 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The nation I know dies exist, because I played it ten times unsuccessfully

  • @casmd2131
    @casmd2131 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You could use favors to have the ottomans return Byzantine cores to them since their your vassal.

  • @quartztemplar3676
    @quartztemplar3676 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    YESSS. RAGUSA!!!!!!

  • @rukrim5025
    @rukrim5025 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So basically, subscribe to see you and Tom wear an odd EU4 sweater, while protesting in Ulm. What are you protesting against? I think you should be protesting why Ulm should be a free and independent state. I'll sub for that.

  • @muratonuryilmaz5385
    @muratonuryilmaz5385 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That mission tree same as Croatia

  • @Mr.M9323
    @Mr.M9323 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:11 hungarian general: hold my beer. xd

  • @Dante-mr3rz
    @Dante-mr3rz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is achievement still viable if you form Dalmatia?

  • @IronWolf123
    @IronWolf123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you going to form Dalmatia for those really good military ideas?

  • @ominousflames14
    @ominousflames14 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Probably posted before, but you can only have a max of 10 provinces to form Dalmatia. You lost that opportunity when you annexed Bosnia. You also should have co-beligerented Wallachia if you wanted to vassalize them, as they typically only ally the one nation early on, but could be guaranteed by the ottomans. (Vassals don't count towards the maximum province count to form Dalmatia) I usually wait for what the Ottomans do after that. If they attack byz, then i rush for Kosovo for the gold mine. If they attack Albania, then I rush for the Venetian provinces i need for Dalmatia. Going for that Naples territory was really ballsy, but I can't say I am surprised.
    Also forming Croatia will force your republic into a monarchy if you are into that.

  • @tigrecito48
    @tigrecito48 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ragusa is where Ragu Tomato sauce is from...

  • @oracle372
    @oracle372 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sigismund, when collab wiht best eu4 player?

  • @DuckiGaming-bs7cd
    @DuckiGaming-bs7cd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do a Croatia game

  • @tigrecito48
    @tigrecito48 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Try to get 101 provinces as Dalmatia to get the achievement 101 Dalmatians

  • @xzardas541
    @xzardas541 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    From ragusa to riches.

  • @will_mar
    @will_mar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep playing like this and Ragusa will turn into an "Italo-Slavian commonwealth".

  • @user-wm6zf4jg2z
    @user-wm6zf4jg2z 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You kinda look like Anakin from episode 2. Just wanted to let you know that

  • @alessandrogoro8010
    @alessandrogoro8010 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a challenge for you: start as a country with low religious unity like QQ or Hormuz, you can't: boost stability over 0, accept rebel demand, take burger loans, increase autonomy in provinces, lower war exaustion, disinherit heir, use the privilege guaranteed dhimmi autonomy and be constanty at least 50 overextension.

  • @veteran_dino
    @veteran_dino 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you can form dalmatia go for it

  • @matijas9989
    @matijas9989 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pro tip for your future games - Do not sneeze as this makes the coalition outraged and declare war on you

  • @VerumPositor
    @VerumPositor 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah Ragusa the true Yugoslavia!!

  • @cedrickropp
    @cedrickropp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Going to a foreign country to start a protest is not a good idea.
    I am sorry if you feel different about it, but you are most likely not covered by the right to assemble (or what ever the right English equivalent is) and just in general seems quite dickish during Covid when local governments are desperately trying to keep people from needlessly gathering in sizable groups, even if it’s just the Christmas celebration.
    Again it’s probably just a joke, but please do consider the locals when proclaiming something like this even if it’s just a joke.

  • @sky_skipper
    @sky_skipper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sorry-- Why is that a reason to subscribe?

  • @TheStanislavson
    @TheStanislavson 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How does he lead so many wars and is there a point in doing this? Does he fabricate claim and declares another war that the new nation joins in his previous war, okay, but what is the whole point here?

  • @gilbertmontagner1215
    @gilbertmontagner1215 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello from Luxembourg

  • @komandantkilljoy
    @komandantkilljoy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its at 5000 likes come back and keep going

  • @PSNR-do1fe
    @PSNR-do1fe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you ain’t fighting for your life against coalition are you having fun

  • @Walesball1214
    @Walesball1214 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i am part Ragusan!!!

  • @martinb4272
    @martinb4272 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The missed opportunity to cede Ottoman lands for a 100 warscore as the war leader.
    Otherwise I enjoy your videos!

  • @muratonuryilmaz5385
    @muratonuryilmaz5385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Look like little like Yugoslavia

  • @charlesdean2781
    @charlesdean2781 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    protest in ulm against the what?

  • @alexanderking2280
    @alexanderking2280 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Day 1 of requesting a playthrough of theodoro.

  • @thatponybro6940
    @thatponybro6940 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i'm just waiting for other people wanting to watch you suffer a One Culture run lol

  • @ZetaArcticana4006
    @ZetaArcticana4006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like how democracy is great in eu4 and boring in hoi4

  • @MyTomServo
    @MyTomServo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We are going to go Hungary
    Give you people food dammit

  • @breecegriffith5896
    @breecegriffith5896 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What will you even do in Ulm?

  • @Papaj2.137
    @Papaj2.137 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tbh i always treat Ragusa like one of classic picks
    Imho starting as Serbia is much harder

  • @alender6200
    @alender6200 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is this? where is the random weird stuff going on with a nation that is somehow dominating?

  • @Dykwiaornot
    @Dykwiaornot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    demotratic ditmarschen to revolutionary russia please =)

  • @richardbraakman7469
    @richardbraakman7469 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Next step: join HRE

  • @Riael
    @Riael 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow 18 seconds

  • @Lord-Phantom
    @Lord-Phantom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Form a Dalmatian empire

  • @gruffelo6945
    @gruffelo6945 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just cannot watch on speed 5

  • @casssaph2287
    @casssaph2287 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hate these clickbaity titles so much
    isn't it enough for a nation to just be interesting enough to take a look at?
    i dont expect ragusa to be meta or the most underrated or the most extreme of any qualifier
    all i expect is for you to make an interesting and fun video of you playing as them, thats why i watch your videos

  • @pandabear4565
    @pandabear4565 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You hold a protest against those who watch but dont subcribe lol, if i had the means id deff join u. But i am a poor student in america

  • @destroyer4629
    @destroyer4629 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1000th

  • @bernardcornellisvanmeijere4375
    @bernardcornellisvanmeijere4375 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Go Orthodox and switch to being Dalmatia.

  • @colchis_eques
    @colchis_eques 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    WTF LAITH IS SERBIAN NATIONALIST AND HE WONNA RESTORE YUGOSLAVIA?

  • @martinus_mars
    @martinus_mars 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should form Dalmatia,,,,,it has kinda stupid strong ideas

  • @windingism
    @windingism 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    first

  • @ontheradar100
    @ontheradar100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2 minutes late lol

  • @professortoad1378
    @professortoad1378 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A pure democratic run of ditmarshcan would be interesting. But. Why not turn it into a discord pure democracy perhaps? Use it as an excuse to plug the discord. You sell out.