►Follow us on Instagram @autogefuehl and @thomas.letsgo ►Subscribe here: th-cam.com/users/autogefuehl 00:00 Overview new funny features for the Model Y 01:43 Design, length, wheels 02:21 Acceleration figures 02:34 Door handles and side windows 03:04 Interior free of animal skin 03:26 New steering wheel update with heating 03:42 Front seats 04:03 Key card, smartphone key or key fob 04:21 Storage space 04:35 Still no instruments or HUD 04:50 Infotainment update with Android layout 06:25 Keep climate mode heating test 24 h ! 08:55 New Blind Spot Monitor BSM 09:18 Toy box update with boombox megaphone 09:59 Battery size 10:46 Consumption and range at different speeds 12:33 Mismatch in projected ranges in the screen 14:32 Infotainment system map and preconditioning 15:24 Supercharging sport 15:57 V2 vs V3 supercharger 16:07 Supercharger test 10-80 % SoC 18:38 Rear seating 19:20 Panel gaps build quality check 19:33 Trunk / boot area 21:35 Frunk 21:45 Driving motorway acceleration with top speed 27:07 Energy use and range @ top speed 29:23 Countryside driving 30:57 Sporty driving handling 31:42 Suspension stiff on rough road ►Compare the Model Y summer review: th-cam.com/video/6-fIKDLQ7wc/w-d-xo.html ►Compare more EV competitors: th-cam.com/video/F-Dk2bXIFXM/w-d-xo.html ►Compare the Kia EV6: th-cam.com/video/1rpS311emAQ/w-d-xo.html #Tesla #TeslaModelY Transparency note: Autogefühl videos are independent and free from editorial influence on opinion and rating. But since manufacturers enable us to do the reviews in the first place, for legal reasons this video is marked as _advertisement_.
The *ONLY* reviewer who calls it as he sees it!!! When criticism is due, you can rely on Thomas to criticize, not for the sake of criticism, but to help the manufacturers improve their cars!
This is real Journalism here! real world scenario and practicality. No bragging here.. just basic truth and excellent perception to represent average consumer here.. !! great one Autogefuhl & Thomas!
Very refreshing review Thomas, you’ve taken it up a notch and that’s exactly what us consumers need; utterly reliable, transparent and honest expert feedback on all aspects. Brilliant. Geoff
Great review. I think we have the same opinion on Tesla’s. If the could fix the super hard suspension, have an extendable seat base, add a proper rain sensor for the auto wipers, add adaptive Matrix Headlights and a HUD it would be a fantastic car. I’m really hoping at least the suspension gets fixed for the Berlin Model Y as I won’t order one until it is.
You certainly note points that are badly lacking on these vehicles.. The danger of being tied in to Tesla for any maintenance is a worry for me personally.. I just don't like the looks of the Y and the Model 3... I think other makers will bring much more choice and charm to the EV markets..
Aren't the headlights Matrix LED? Feature is just not unlocked yet. You can see it in the Tesla light show that the lights are able for the Matrix stuff.
@Mark Bennett personally I love the looks of model 3 and y, they look like classic cars a bit like a Porsche, on the other hand I find something like the model X a bit ugly
Thank you Thomas. You are undeniably the best car reviewer on the internet. I really was tempted with the Model Y but I had my doubts and this confirms them.
Big trunk but low weight capacity, no driving instrument cluster but a big tablet only, high price but low comfort suspension. 🤷♂️ Very useful review Thomas! Keep up the good work👍
GigaBerlin Model Y will right away from day 1 have MUCH more weight capacity, and no doubt when they start making it with the new "structural battery pack" aka the 4680, it's going to be stiffer, lighter, faster, more range, and corner better (more of the battery weight is centered), and because it will be lighter, hopefully Tesla will tune the suspension to be more compliant. And of course other iterative improvements. For sure the 2023 Model Y out of Germany will be a considerable improvement!!
8:30 That failure if I understand it correctly happens if you leave the car in freezing temperatures (well below 0C) and you do not heat the car. To put it simply - you leave your car outside over night. In that case some active element can freeze while closed and you will not be able to open it and heat the cabin. Probably some moisture is also needed.
Hi Thomas! Would you be willing to make a comparison video in the future that compares some of the current EVs including model3 & Y and Polestar 2, ONLY in terms of COMFORT and SUSPENSION? I think you will be the very first one on the entire TH-cam to do that and it is an extremely needed comparison
17:50 and the efficiency is something to consider as well. If you need longer to 80% but can drive than longer it is different than charging a thirsty etron fast
Tesla has a lot of issues. I don't understand why I think it's because of high demand. It makes it almost impossible for them to pay attention to detail. I just hope someday they solve their quality issues. Before I buy the model s plaid.
Hi Thomas, This is why your channel has become my favorite amongst all others. Thank you for the Honest review! Hope, Tesla can manufacture cars better suited for German roads when building from Berlin.
I drive a standard long range (not Performance) Model 3 on terrible Boston roads and find the suspension stiff but always reassuring, handling as well as and less harsh than my Porsche 911 4 S. I agree with you on several major faults: the horrible negligence in not providing a good head up display; the dangerous emergency false stops of the active cruise control; and the somewhat useless side camera views out of the normal line of sight for lane changing, especially when most vehicles today provide a very simple side view mirror blind spot warning light. Also I find the build and quality of my Model 3 to be excellent and I have owned Mercedes or BMWs in my family my whole lifetime. Vielen dank’ fuer alles .
No surprise that the suspension of a Porsche 911 is even stiffer.. that one's a proper sports car, while the Tesla is marketed as a comfort sedan. The difference between those two should be significant.
I wouladd that even with 19 inch wheels my Tesla rides and handles as well as my 2004 BMW 330i Performance Package sedan, my benchmark and the best and best integrated sports car/sedan I have ever owned long term.
You are the first person In dozens of tests that I have seen that had negative feedback about the autopilot functions on Tesla's. Everyone else loves it!
in the silicon valley software developer world there's a lot of distrust, especially after that crash on US101. the freeway more teslas probably use than any other, and still it mistook a lane separator for an empty lane and accelerated into it. if's not even like it was that complex a junction by global standards
@@SteveLoughran 2 things. 1. Tesla FSD is in Beta and needs to be supervised by the driver at all times, who should take over if necessary. And if it was autopilot its the same situation, the driver is in control of the car. The driver should have taken over control of the car. 2. There have been no proven cases of a Tesla being at fault by the NTSA.
I own a Model Y and live in Iceland. It is a good car but absolutely not a car designed for Winter climates. For example, the automatic wipers cannot detect dirt being sprayed by traffic, the interval or sensitivity of the automatic wipers cannot be adjusted so often they won’t start when needed or slow down when wiping a dry windshield. The camera does not detect poor visibility and offer fog lights. The rear camera is blocked by dirt very easily. When snow or dirt blocks the cameras the screen is constantly complaining. Range in sub zero temperatures can be below 300km. The updated UI is much much more difficult to use for driving. Driving controls are buried in menus, that blind spot camera is too low on the screen to be useful, my right hand blocks it
Wow. Great review. Hats off to you. I've watched dozens and dozens of reviews trying to make a decision, and yours was the best and most helpful. Thank you for your time and the awesome review.
The Back Seats are ajustable in degrees, just to add ☺️ And the lane keep i think is one of the most precice, also to mention that you need the advanced autopilot, phantom breakings i garantee not happy anymore with the most recent update (well here in swiss)
ah damn, I did notice that in the last review that it is adjustable, but this time it kinda directly towards me when I folded it so it didnt seem adjustable :/
yes I just checked my previous video where I showed this. It doesnt come naturally because you push against so much force that you dont think its possible
Awesome video! Couldn't help but notice the Juha Kankkunen Driving Academy jacket you're wearing. Any plans for a video featuring the academy? Would love to see that. Greetings from Finland!
It's worth noting that your SoC loss is for maintaining 22°C. If you lowered it to say 18, there's a good chance you could get a second day. In either case though, for sure pretty efficient.
Long time watcher, new subscriber from the Caribbean. I have a question, as a reviewer of so many cars with so many different features,what car do you personally drive? Have a blessed day.
Great review. One thing I also noticed during the test drive was very bad rear visibility besides not so good suspension. I love the fact that you do a fair review without falling into the trap that many "fan boys" fall into - that is to just 'love' the Tesla because that's the cool thing to do. You are objective and are not afraid to speak your honest opinion which is unfortunately rare.
18:10 Hyundai did already confirm to your colleague Carmaniac that there will be an update to add battery pre heating. Then again, I love how Tesla implemented the side camera blind spot monitor just with a software update. It's just an example of how well they can update all the elements of the car. The Hyundai battery heater update will probably have to be done by the dealer...
28:09 well as an example diesel 2.0L at 100 km/h will consume roughly 5.0L per 100km whereas at 210km/h consumption will reach 15L pert 100km so 33% efficiency - petrol vehicles do even worse so at any rate EV with further development and ever improving charging network is a better choice.
I've got my eyes on this Model Y. That said, I just bought a Skoda Enyaq with Matrix LED. I'm very happy with the car. Maybe if they do something about the interior and upgrade the lights I will consider it as my next car. But for now, my Enyaq trumps this car.
Another superbly presented and really informative vid, Thomas. I’m pleased I’ve chosen an Enyaq as my first EV, does everything well and it superb value!
Excellent review..thank you. I have watched many reviews of the Mod 2 and the Y and have never heard anyone refer to the suspension as garbage. I have driven a Mod 2 and an S and didn't notice this level of imperfection. I am in the market but there will never be a Ford, GM, Kia our Hyundai in my garage. This is not because I think their vehicles are necessarily garbage but because of my years of experience dealing with GM and Ford. My one visit to a Kia dealer was the worst experience I have ever had. My short list includes Tesla and Audi....that's it. I do feel more comfortable driving an Audi. I suspect Tesla is working on that too.
There is no Mod 2, you must mean Mod 3. And there are many videos that speak of the suspension challenges in the model 3. See Kyle Connor who has done 100k miles on his Model 3 and owned many Teslas before and driven virtually all EVs that can be accessed in the USA and some in EU. His channel is Out of Spec Reviews and related.
Model Y has a heat pump for heating. Its efficiency drops with temperature. Moreover, the evaporator coil on the heat pump will freeze at negative temperatures, requiring additional energy for defrosting. Being just a few degrees below or a few degrees above 0 makes a very big difference for heat pump efficiency.
Nice review Thomas. But not sure if seat heating is always good... (otherwise you would need soon preparation H..) 🤣🤣🤣 Finally a really "Konkurrent" zu Kitt ha ha ha And regarding the crucial point: i'm not a big fan of Tesla, but comparing the same price of a ID4 GTX vs Model Y. 299 HP versus much more in the Tesla. So that's a big point for Tesla IMHO Your "Fazit" is really great. Clear, polite and constructive for Tesla.
I don't think the displayed range is show room related. The one you see in the energy consumption is a personalized figure based on your driving style. It varies person by person, day by day depending on weather conditions. They display a generic EPA or internally tested range to have a consistent reference point for people. Once you drive regularly you know exactly how to get that range (if no other factor decreases it like weather) and you know if you switch to sportier driving style you'll see higher consumption.
I wouldn't say the displayed range is misleading. It shows the EPA range, and for my daily commute, it is accurate (except in cold conditions). At highway speeds, of course not, but none of the EVs I've owned have been accurate then. Appreciate the review, even though our taste differs in some things.
@@autogefuehl True. But how about -20 celsius, cold garage, no plug nearby, been abroad for a month, will there be any charge left when i come back, like benzin(aka petrol) in my tank? :) Still not enough range on 1 full charge...((
@@autogefuehl Laughs in canadian, russian, northern usa, scandinavian :)))) But yeah large cycle appears to be realistic, warming is coming step by step, but then goes another big freeezing cycle after warming (random number imo1000 or 100 years,y or so, no one knows), good review btw ;) P.S. cmon stop hate towards capacitive buttons, imo only steering wheel should be mechanical with scroll/hard button. Cheers ;) Fu** steering wheel, I want Airbus sidestick in my car adopted to road usage))))
Great review! Also, thanks for you honesty about the suspension. I have driven the Model 3, the Y and the S. Only the S has a premium suspension. The other two just turned me off!
I live in Sweden and i like the hard suspension i drove my dad´s bmw 7 serie feels like im driving a boat, i used to like that car but now when driving my Tesla model 3 it´s so much more fun.
Excellent review, once more! One nag. When you mention bunch of cars that don't preheat the battery, you could also mention Polestar/Volvo that do. ✌️👌
Great review Thomas, as usual. Just wanted to add, folks often forget that you can easily swap out the suspensions for non-oem, especially if you love the car, don't let the suspension deter you, the tech is by far leaps and bounds ahead of the competition.
@@larsw.larsen4173 There are several options of adaptive coil and air suspension, from luxury to sport drives. Price range is US $2-3K (parts) with a 2hour installation time. Inexpensive when compared with alternative manufacturers 'upgrades' on other vehicles. search on youtube to see reviews. cheers
There are several options of adaptive coil and air suspension, from luxury to sport drives. Price range is US $2-3K (parts) with a 2hour installation time. Inexpensive when compared with alternative manufacturers 'upgrades' on other vehicles. search on youtube to see reviews. cheers
@@sbomorsethe cheapest tuning i ever had for 2000$ = 0.6s faster 0-100kmh… Compared to regular gas car tuning, how much you have to invest for to be 0.6s faster? 🙄🤓 So 2k is a great deal for that much more performance, this will beat any 911 porsch stock car 🎉🤩
@@marcelrahellucerneastrophoto nobody is gonna be able to tell a 0.6 second difference to 60MPH 😂 But I guess "you pays your money you takes your choice" 🙂 I only paid £250 to have a custom remap on my diesel Renault and dropped the 0-60MPH from 8.9 seconds to 7.1 😏
Hi Test drove a model Y yesterday and agree with all of your comments about the APPALLING suspension. Are you able to recommend an after market solution? Happy to drive to Germany (I’m in UK). I’ve looked at ‘Unplugged Performance’ at £2500 but just wondered if you have experience of a Model Y that has been upgraded to something other than the ride of a roller skate! Thank you.
I dunno, my Model 3 Performance with 20" wheels and 235/35 profile tires, the ride comfort is just fine ... and I've driven in New York City several times too ... and hit a few potholes (no issues) ... maybe the Y is stiffer (to compensate for the weight)?
It seems that it is even a bigger problem in the model Y in comparison to the model three indeed, many SUVs have stiffer suspension to cope with body leaning due to higher building style
Thanks for posting in English …. I utterly love your content! I think as a bike rider and ex dirt bike competitor, that gives you a super understanding of the issues around these vehicles. Basically I trust you , and there is evidence that you understand fun and playful driving! (The sort of enjoyment KIA do NOT understand)
@@autogefuehl if I’m not mistaken Model Y has a new comfort suspension from 2023 onwards. Because on your video you confirm that the biggest issue is the suspension and I would like to know if there is any significant difference in latest models
I have white interior in my Model 3P. Along with two kids. Seats are made of a polyuretane mix, so when your wife loose her cup of coffee in the front seats, its pretty easy to clean. White interior for the win ! I use Gyeon Q2M LeatherSet Mild. Superb
I had a Model 3 Performance, and while I wasn't expecting much comfort, I wasn't expecting the suspension to be that bad. It's ridiculously stiff, and the worst part is how bouncy it is, especially the rear. Couldn't even cruise with my head on the headrest because it would just bounce off it, and the headrest is hard! I sold it and kept my Phaeton instead. Driving behind either Model 3's or Y's on the road, I see them fidgeting constantly and I think of how happy I am to have gotten rid of mine. You're absolutely correct in saying the suspension is the major weak point, and a very strong reason not to buy a Model 3 or Y yet until Tesla decides to make a change. In fact, I'd say that's all the reason you need. You buy a Tesla to drive it daily, and it just doesn't have that daily comfort you would expect. At least the front seats are soft, but that's no excuse for the poor suspension.
While this is true for the model 3 performance and the model Y in general, I think it depends on what car you're coming from. I just upgraded my 2016 BMW 320XI with a 2022 Tesla Model 3 RWD and the Tesla is much more comfortable. Also keep in mind that Tesla sets the PSI of its cars to 45 PSI to increase range, but that makes for a harsher ride. I was running my BMW at around 29-30 PSI and decided to lower my Tesla to around 35-36 PSI and it made a big difference in ride quality. It's not always the suspension people tend to overlook the fact that no other manufacturers set their cars at 45 PSI...
I agree with you about their suspension. I was thinking that if I was to ever buy a Tesla I would have to research aftermarket suspension for it to get a halfway decent ride out of it.
13:50 it's always better use % than km/miles...just like your phone. And it's just deprecated to show the km because it is just like showing the left hours in a phone. EPA rating. Other cars just showing wltp figures and adapt always the shown km.
Great review - thanks. I'm looking forward to if you will soon review the Renault Megane e-tech electric, it seems like a great car and it also seems more sustainable compared to a lot of other electric cars because it's pretty small and lightweight
Your right about the suspension. But look at munro live they compared the components of the Ford tesla and volkswagen. Then tell me.again witch one is the best
Tesla likes to be vertically integrated so is less probable they will buy new suspension - there were rumours already they are going to adopt air suspension from older siblings... and I have to confirm - build quality is nothing like it was before, when we had only Fremont built cars - now MIC looks and feels way better. Anyhow great video as usual! well done Thomas :) thank you! PS: stay safe - top speed test with such weather conditions gave me a bit of quicker heartbeat :D
The displayed mileage remaining is based on the mixed city and highway driving, which is how most people use the vehicle on a daily basis. But I agree, % is optimal.
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00:00 Overview new funny features for the Model Y
01:43 Design, length, wheels
02:21 Acceleration figures
02:34 Door handles and side windows
03:04 Interior free of animal skin
03:26 New steering wheel update with heating
03:42 Front seats
04:03 Key card, smartphone key or key fob
04:21 Storage space
04:35 Still no instruments or HUD
04:50 Infotainment update with Android layout
06:25 Keep climate mode heating test 24 h !
08:55 New Blind Spot Monitor BSM
09:18 Toy box update with boombox megaphone
09:59 Battery size
10:46 Consumption and range at different speeds
12:33 Mismatch in projected ranges in the screen
14:32 Infotainment system map and preconditioning
15:24 Supercharging sport
15:57 V2 vs V3 supercharger
16:07 Supercharger test 10-80 % SoC
18:38 Rear seating
19:20 Panel gaps build quality check
19:33 Trunk / boot area
21:35 Frunk
21:45 Driving motorway acceleration with top speed
27:07 Energy use and range @ top speed
29:23 Countryside driving
30:57 Sporty driving handling
31:42 Suspension stiff on rough road
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How that battery drain data is useful without any comparison data from other cars ?
I would have had the car say, "In full HD, full screen, and full length. Let's go!" 😂
hahah yes! Gotta do that next time
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You mean UHD, full screen, full length :D
That’s the trade mark we always love to ear at the beginning of every review:) full hd full screen and full length let’s go:)
Hahaha
The *ONLY* reviewer who calls it as he sees it!!! When criticism is due, you can rely on Thomas to criticize, not for the sake of criticism, but to help the manufacturers improve their cars!
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Brilliant review as usual, Thomas. I really appreciate the battery usage with heater test.
in ur service!
Thanks for all your vids. Love the little jokes.
thanks so much! :-)
Big shout out to Thomas and team for such great real-life tests and review!
Very well done!
highly appreciated !
This is real Journalism here! real world scenario and practicality. No bragging here.. just basic truth and excellent perception to represent average consumer here.. !! great one Autogefuhl & Thomas!
Highly appreciated!
It's. nice to see an honest Tesla (non fanboy) review.
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Very refreshing review Thomas, you’ve taken it up a notch and that’s exactly what us consumers need; utterly reliable, transparent and honest expert feedback on all aspects. Brilliant. Geoff
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Great review. I think we have the same opinion on Tesla’s. If the could fix the super hard suspension, have an extendable seat base, add a proper rain sensor for the auto wipers, add adaptive Matrix Headlights and a HUD it would be a fantastic car. I’m really hoping at least the suspension gets fixed for the Berlin Model Y as I won’t order one until it is.
thanks Scott !
You certainly note points that are badly lacking on these vehicles.. The danger of being tied in to Tesla for any maintenance is a worry for me personally..
I just don't like the looks of the Y and the Model 3...
I think other makers will bring much more choice and charm to the EV markets..
And smartphone integration (Apple CarPlay/Android Auto) and ... and ... and ... 😄
Aren't the headlights Matrix LED? Feature is just not unlocked yet. You can see it in the Tesla light show that the lights are able for the Matrix stuff.
@Mark Bennett personally I love the looks of model 3 and y, they look like classic cars a bit like a Porsche, on the other hand I find something like the model X a bit ugly
Thank you Thomas. You are undeniably the best car reviewer on the internet. I really was tempted with the Model Y but I had my doubts and this confirms them.
Highly appreciated!
What were your concerns?
@@andreapanzieri4748 That despite having the best technology and EV drive trains, Tesla are still learning how to make cars
Big trunk but low weight capacity, no driving instrument cluster but a big tablet only, high price but low comfort suspension. 🤷♂️
Very useful review Thomas!
Keep up the good work👍
thanks keep joining !
GigaBerlin Model Y will right away from day 1 have MUCH more weight capacity, and no doubt when they start making it with the new "structural battery pack" aka the 4680, it's going to be stiffer, lighter, faster, more range, and corner better (more of the battery weight is centered), and because it will be lighter, hopefully Tesla will tune the suspension to be more compliant. And of course other iterative improvements. For sure the 2023 Model Y out of Germany will be a considerable improvement!!
As Nizar says, new documents show that Berlin made Model Y will have an additional 170 kg payload added to the vehicle. Berlin has you covered!
I know it’s an old video, but using the button for the whipper and then the left scroll to adjust the speed works just fine.
01:24 when you’re stuck… feels like I’m on a different platform hahaha
8:30 That failure if I understand it correctly happens if you leave the car in freezing temperatures (well below 0C) and you do not heat the car. To put it simply - you leave your car outside over night. In that case some active element can freeze while closed and you will not be able to open it and heat the cabin. Probably some moisture is also needed.
Hi Thomas! Would you be willing to make a comparison video in the future that compares some of the current EVs including model3 & Y and Polestar 2, ONLY in terms of COMFORT and SUSPENSION? I think you will be the very first one on the entire TH-cam to do that and it is an extremely needed comparison
17:50 and the efficiency is something to consider as well. If you need longer to 80% but can drive than longer it is different than charging a thirsty etron fast
Crazy that the suspension is so hard and bad 😳. Not the first that have complained about this, Pretty crazy for a expensive car like this 👏
Tesla has a lot of issues.
I don't understand why
I think it's because of high demand.
It makes it almost impossible for them to pay attention to detail.
I just hope someday they solve their quality issues.
Before I buy the model s plaid.
Help us with a review of the 2023 Model Y. Berlin/Shanghai editions. I am hoping the suspension is really better now.
Hi Thomas, This is why your channel has become my favorite amongst all others. Thank you for the Honest review! Hope, Tesla can manufacture cars better suited for German roads when building from Berlin.
Highly appreciated!
Excellent and educational review. Kudos for visiting the Helden supercharger, one of the nicest ones in Europe with good coffee.
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I drive a standard long range (not Performance) Model 3 on terrible Boston roads and find the suspension stiff but always reassuring, handling as well as and less harsh than my Porsche 911 4 S. I agree with you on several major faults: the horrible negligence in not providing a good head up display; the dangerous emergency false stops of the active cruise control; and the somewhat useless side camera views out of the normal line of sight for lane changing, especially when most vehicles today provide a very simple side view mirror blind spot warning light. Also I find the build and quality of my Model 3 to be excellent and I have owned Mercedes or BMWs in my family my whole lifetime. Vielen dank’ fuer alles .
Thanks for the interesting feedback 👌
No surprise that the suspension of a Porsche 911 is even stiffer.. that one's a proper sports car, while the Tesla is marketed as a comfort sedan. The difference between those two should be significant.
I wouladd that even with 19 inch wheels my Tesla rides and handles as well as my 2004 BMW 330i Performance Package sedan, my benchmark and the best and best integrated sports car/sedan I have ever owned long term.
The model 3 suspension isn't as bad as the one in the model y. The y needs other springs or a kw components plus a determination of the axis.
Even my wife knows who Thomas is. Love your work!
Thank you for the Ehrlichkeit 😁(honesty)
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Most realistic range test on all car channels!
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Always enjoy your EV reviews Thomas. Keep up the good work.
Thanks 🙏
15:03 preconditioning is good, because the BMS knows that you reach the fast charger. And a warm pack can release more kWH than a cold one.
You are the first person In dozens of tests that I have seen that had negative feedback about the autopilot functions on Tesla's. Everyone else loves it!
Not sure if they have driven all the systems and enough kilometers
in the silicon valley software developer world there's a lot of distrust, especially after that crash on US101. the freeway more teslas probably use than any other, and still it mistook a lane separator for an empty lane and accelerated into it. if's not even like it was that complex a junction by global standards
@@SteveLoughran 2 things. 1. Tesla FSD is in Beta and needs to be supervised by the driver at all times, who should take over if necessary. And if it was autopilot its the same situation, the driver is in control of the car. The driver should have taken over control of the car. 2. There have been no proven cases of a Tesla being at fault by the NTSA.
I own a Model Y and live in Iceland. It is a good car but absolutely not a car designed for Winter climates. For example, the automatic wipers cannot detect dirt being sprayed by traffic, the interval or sensitivity of the automatic wipers cannot be adjusted so often they won’t start when needed or slow down when wiping a dry windshield. The camera does not detect poor visibility and offer fog lights. The rear camera is blocked by dirt very easily. When snow or dirt blocks the cameras the screen is constantly complaining. Range in sub zero temperatures can be below 300km. The updated UI is much much more difficult to use for driving. Driving controls are buried in menus, that blind spot camera is too low on the screen to be useful, my right hand blocks it
Thanks for the feedback!
Wow. Great review. Hats off to you. I've watched dozens and dozens of reviews trying to make a decision, and yours was the best and most helpful. Thank you for your time and the awesome review.
The Back Seats are ajustable in degrees, just to add ☺️
And the lane keep i think is one of the most precice, also to mention that you need the advanced autopilot, phantom breakings i garantee not happy anymore with the most recent update (well here in swiss)
ah damn, I did notice that in the last review that it is adjustable, but this time it kinda directly towards me when I folded it so it didnt seem adjustable :/
@@autogefuehl well its kinda strange to adjust because its electronically ajusted, its about 10 degrees range you can adjust
yes I just checked my previous video where I showed this. It doesnt come naturally because you push against so much force that you dont think its possible
Autopilot is such a luxury there is just no comparison. I use it 95% of the times.
Top speed efficiency. Only Thomas can do this. :)
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Thomas’s driving lounge inspires me to be a better driver. Thanks Thomas!
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Awesome video! Couldn't help but notice the Juha Kankkunen Driving Academy jacket you're wearing. Any plans for a video featuring the academy? Would love to see that. Greetings from Finland!
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It's worth noting that your SoC loss is for maintaining 22°C. If you lowered it to say 18, there's a good chance you could get a second day. In either case though, for sure pretty efficient.
Even with 22 C, 1,5 % loss per hour means you could leave it like this for 53 hours until it stops theoretically :) (going 100 % to 20 %)
Long time watcher, new subscriber from the Caribbean. I have a question, as a reviewer of so many cars with so many different features,what car do you personally drive? Have a blessed day.
Great review. One thing I also noticed during the test drive was very bad rear visibility besides not so good suspension. I love the fact that you do a fair review without falling into the trap that many "fan boys" fall into - that is to just 'love' the Tesla because that's the cool thing to do. You are objective and are not afraid to speak your honest opinion which is unfortunately rare.
Cheers! Please recommend 😎
With that stiff suspension the model y is propably the fastest fork lifter ever made.
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Another great review. Fully agree about night time driving and instrument cluster.
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18:10 Hyundai did already confirm to your colleague Carmaniac that there will be an update to add battery pre heating. Then again, I love how Tesla implemented the side camera blind spot monitor just with a software update. It's just an example of how well they can update all the elements of the car. The Hyundai battery heater update will probably have to be done by the dealer...
Great test as always, Thomas. You tell us the stuff we really want to know about a car. Thanks again for your spot-on appraisals. Invaluable.👌👍👋
highly appreciated! Please recommend our channel :-)
Great review as always Thomas :D
I'm waiting for Audi TT facelift. Any plans? :)
Thanks! Will that even happen? 😂
Defenetly I take the EV6 AWD instead of the Model Y. Superb review Thomas !!!
thanks Gery!
I got a EV6 for my wife and the heads-up display with AR is amazing also loving the highway driving assist and the comfortable drive!
@@renerens I think the same !! I felt a superior ride comfort in the EV6 :)
I've watched so many of Thomas' reviews (which are absolutely awesome!) and he makes me want every car he's reviewed... so now I'm back to square one.
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28:09 well as an example diesel 2.0L at 100 km/h will consume roughly 5.0L per 100km whereas at 210km/h consumption will reach 15L pert 100km so 33% efficiency - petrol vehicles do even worse so at any rate EV with further development and ever improving charging network is a better choice.
I've got my eyes on this Model Y. That said, I just bought a Skoda Enyaq with Matrix LED. I'm very happy with the car. Maybe if they do something about the interior and upgrade the lights I will consider it as my next car. But for now, my Enyaq trumps this car.
Another superbly presented and really informative vid, Thomas. I’m pleased I’ve chosen an Enyaq as my first EV, does everything well and it superb value!
Highly appreciated!
You do one of the best reviews! Is the suspension changed in 2023?
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I heard there are some tweaks, but it wont change everything
Love the jacket!
Autopilot is very popular in US at least. Would be good to hear more details behind your evaluation.
I know AP is restricted in Europe.
Excellent review..thank you. I have watched many reviews of the Mod 2 and the Y and have never heard anyone refer to the suspension as garbage. I have driven a Mod 2 and an S and didn't notice this level of imperfection. I am in the market but there will never be a Ford, GM, Kia our Hyundai in my garage. This is not because I think their vehicles are necessarily garbage but because of my years of experience dealing with GM and Ford. My one visit to a Kia dealer was the worst experience I have ever had. My short list includes Tesla and Audi....that's it. I do feel more comfortable driving an Audi. I suspect Tesla is working on that too.
There is no Mod 2, you must mean Mod 3. And there are many videos that speak of the suspension challenges in the model 3. See Kyle Connor who has done 100k miles on his Model 3 and owned many Teslas before and driven virtually all EVs that can be accessed in the USA and some in EU.
His channel is Out of Spec Reviews and related.
31:50 Brilliant. 😂👍
Great review as always Thomas. Thanks.
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Good honest review as usual thank you!
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Best vehicle I ever owned, its definitely not perfect, no car is. But as an over all package, it is the best.
Great video Thomas, but could you add some brakes tests . How well it stops , etc .
Model Y has a heat pump for heating. Its efficiency drops with temperature. Moreover, the evaporator coil on the heat pump will freeze at negative temperatures, requiring additional energy for defrosting. Being just a few degrees below or a few degrees above 0 makes a very big difference for heat pump efficiency.
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Nice review Thomas. But not sure if seat heating is always good... (otherwise you would need soon preparation H..)
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Finally a really "Konkurrent" zu Kitt ha ha ha
And regarding the crucial point: i'm not a big fan of Tesla, but comparing the same price of a ID4 GTX vs Model Y.
299 HP versus much more in the Tesla. So that's a big point for Tesla IMHO
Your "Fazit" is really great. Clear, polite and constructive for Tesla.
That eko-plaquette "green 4" is really funny, when i imagine my Citroen C6 2.7 HDI had it too :-)
I don't think the displayed range is show room related. The one you see in the energy consumption is a personalized figure based on your driving style. It varies person by person, day by day depending on weather conditions. They display a generic EPA or internally tested range to have a consistent reference point for people. Once you drive regularly you know exactly how to get that range (if no other factor decreases it like weather) and you know if you switch to sportier driving style you'll see higher consumption.
I wouldn't say the displayed range is misleading. It shows the EPA range, and for my daily commute, it is accurate (except in cold conditions). At highway speeds, of course not, but none of the EVs I've owned have been accurate then.
Appreciate the review, even though our taste differs in some things.
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it seems the cars from Gigafactory in Germany have different suspension - much better, maybe it‘s worth to test this again?
+1 for the option of getting white interior with wood on the dash. Would have ordered the white but just cant get past the white dash
32:50 Ah, durch Essen Heisingen gefahren. Meine alte Heimat :-D
Great video! The Tesla is impressive
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@@autogefuehl True. But how about -20 celsius, cold garage, no plug nearby, been abroad for a month, will there be any charge left when i come back, like benzin(aka petrol) in my tank? :) Still not enough range on 1 full charge...((
Climate change. No -20 in Germany anymore ;-)
@@autogefuehl Laughs in canadian, russian, northern usa, scandinavian :)))) But yeah large cycle appears to be realistic, warming is coming step by step, but then goes another big freeezing cycle after warming (random number imo1000 or 100 years,y or so, no one knows), good review btw ;)
P.S. cmon stop hate towards capacitive buttons, imo only steering wheel should be mechanical with scroll/hard button. Cheers ;)
Fu** steering wheel, I want Airbus sidestick in my car adopted to road usage))))
Great review! Also, thanks for you honesty about the suspension. I have driven the Model 3, the Y and the S. Only the S has a premium suspension. The other two just turned me off!
I live in Sweden and i like the hard suspension i drove my dad´s bmw 7 serie feels like im driving a boat, i used to like that car but now when driving my Tesla model 3 it´s so much more fun.
Excellent review, once more! One nag. When you mention bunch of cars that don't preheat the battery, you could also mention Polestar/Volvo that do. ✌️👌
Great review Thomas, as usual. Just wanted to add, folks often forget that you can easily swap out the suspensions for non-oem, especially if you love the car, don't let the suspension deter you, the tech is by far leaps and bounds ahead of the competition.
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Yeah of course you can do that but I think it’s a bad sign if you have to switch the suspension
Is it possible to after install adaptive suspention? And at what cost?
@@larsw.larsen4173 There are several options of adaptive coil and air suspension, from luxury to sport drives. Price range is US $2-3K (parts) with a 2hour installation time. Inexpensive when compared with alternative manufacturers 'upgrades' on other vehicles. search on youtube to see reviews. cheers
There are several options of adaptive coil and air suspension, from luxury to sport drives. Price range is US $2-3K (parts) with a 2hour installation time. Inexpensive when compared with alternative manufacturers 'upgrades' on other vehicles. search on youtube to see reviews. cheers
Brilliant, but can it close the glove box ?
haha no
Than you for your objective review
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Brilliant review - thank you
Also to mention, you can get for 2000$ the boost upgrade, i bought it and the car is now 0.6s faster and in generell even more acceration 👍🏻
Sounds like you wasted $2000...
@@sbomorsethe cheapest tuning i ever had for 2000$ = 0.6s faster 0-100kmh…
Compared to regular gas car tuning, how much you have to invest for to be 0.6s faster? 🙄🤓
So 2k is a great deal for that much more performance, this will beat any 911 porsch stock car 🎉🤩
@@marcelrahellucerneastrophoto nobody is gonna be able to tell a 0.6 second difference to 60MPH 😂 But I guess "you pays your money you takes your choice" 🙂
I only paid £250 to have a custom remap on my diesel Renault and dropped the 0-60MPH from 8.9 seconds to 7.1 😏
Hi
Test drove a model Y yesterday and agree with all of your comments about the APPALLING suspension. Are you able to recommend an after market solution? Happy to drive to Germany (I’m in UK). I’ve looked at ‘Unplugged Performance’ at £2500 but just wondered if you have experience of a Model Y that has been upgraded to something other than the ride of a roller skate! Thank you.
HI, you mentioned top speed of 135, is that only for German market? Do you know if the acceleration is same for all markets too?
Great review - adjustable suspension and a head-up display are required without a doubt
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I dunno, my Model 3 Performance with 20" wheels and 235/35 profile tires, the ride comfort is just fine ... and I've driven in New York City several times too ... and hit a few potholes (no issues) ... maybe the Y is stiffer (to compensate for the weight)?
It seems that it is even a bigger problem in the model Y in comparison to the model three indeed, many SUVs have stiffer suspension to cope with body leaning due to higher building style
Cute cat, Thomas! :)
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Fantastic review. How about the music system is it top or not that great ?
Thanks! Good average i d say
Thomas how does the suspension compare with the BMW i3s?
Thanks for posting in English …. I utterly love your content!
I think as a bike rider and ex dirt bike competitor, that gives you a super understanding of the issues around these vehicles.
Basically I trust you , and there is evidence that you understand fun and playful driving! (The sort of enjoyment KIA do NOT understand)
Highly appreciated!
I’ve the cash in my account to buy model Y , but the suspension is a deal breaker for me ! Fix it Elon !!!!
Have you tested the Model Y with the new comfort suspension? What is your opinion? Congrats for your work.
Cheers! Which update and when you mean exactly?
@@autogefuehl if I’m not mistaken Model Y has a new comfort suspension from 2023 onwards. Because on your video you confirm that the biggest issue is the suspension and I would like to know if there is any significant difference in latest models
Ok we ll try to make an update on that soon!
@@autogefuehl thank you very much! Keep up the good work 💪🏼
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I have white interior in my Model 3P. Along with two kids. Seats are made of a polyuretane mix, so when your wife loose her cup of coffee in the front seats, its pretty easy to clean. White interior for the win ! I use Gyeon Q2M LeatherSet Mild. Superb
I had a Model 3 Performance, and while I wasn't expecting much comfort, I wasn't expecting the suspension to be that bad. It's ridiculously stiff, and the worst part is how bouncy it is, especially the rear. Couldn't even cruise with my head on the headrest because it would just bounce off it, and the headrest is hard! I sold it and kept my Phaeton instead. Driving behind either Model 3's or Y's on the road, I see them fidgeting constantly and I think of how happy I am to have gotten rid of mine. You're absolutely correct in saying the suspension is the major weak point, and a very strong reason not to buy a Model 3 or Y yet until Tesla decides to make a change. In fact, I'd say that's all the reason you need. You buy a Tesla to drive it daily, and it just doesn't have that daily comfort you would expect. At least the front seats are soft, but that's no excuse for the poor suspension.
Yes, model S and x are More comfortable due to the air suspension
While this is true for the model 3 performance and the model Y in general, I think it depends on what car you're coming from. I just upgraded my 2016 BMW 320XI with a 2022 Tesla Model 3 RWD and the Tesla is much more comfortable. Also keep in mind that Tesla sets the PSI of its cars to 45 PSI to increase range, but that makes for a harsher ride. I was running my BMW at around 29-30 PSI and decided to lower my Tesla to around 35-36 PSI and it made a big difference in ride quality. It's not always the suspension people tend to overlook the fact that no other manufacturers set their cars at 45 PSI...
What engine does your Phaeton have?
@@dragospahontu It's an 07 so it has the 233hp 3.0 TDI. Fully kitted, also individual options, 4 seater. Absolutely brilliant piece of engineering.
@@SwiftHDX yeah it is actually way more comfortable than the Audi A8 from that period.
Why has no one commented on Darth Thomas yet? 🤔
I agree with you about their suspension. I was thinking that if I was to ever buy a Tesla I would have to research aftermarket suspension for it to get a halfway decent ride out of it.
13:50 it's always better use % than km/miles...just like your phone. And it's just deprecated to show the km because it is just like showing the left hours in a phone. EPA rating. Other cars just showing wltp figures and adapt always the shown km.
Ur phone doesn’t drive 😆
Tesla should send you the latest Cybertruck (proto) for review/feedback........
Very good review as always
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Great review - thanks. I'm looking forward to if you will soon review the Renault Megane e-tech electric, it seems like a great car and it also seems more sustainable compared to a lot of other electric cars because it's pretty small and lightweight
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Juha Kankkunen Driving Academy, way to go 👍 Did you visit there lately or could we possibly be getting a video about a visit in there 🤔
I did: th-cam.com/video/kpdORYoJipo/w-d-xo.html
Suspension is trash. Autopilot isn’t that bad it keeps getting better.
Your right about the suspension. But look at munro live they compared the components of the Ford tesla and volkswagen. Then tell me.again witch one is the best
Tesla likes to be vertically integrated so is less probable they will buy new suspension - there were rumours already they are going to adopt air suspension from older siblings... and I have to confirm - build quality is nothing like it was before, when we had only Fremont built cars - now MIC looks and feels way better. Anyhow great video as usual! well done Thomas :) thank you! PS: stay safe - top speed test with such weather conditions gave me a bit of quicker heartbeat :D
thanks keep joining =)
In my Y I can adjust the angle on the rear seats. I have four different angels. Thomas are you sure they were fixed in yours?
Yes. It's possible. Bench came quickly towards me so I missed it, I did notice it in the earlier review though
The displayed mileage remaining is based on the mixed city and highway driving, which is how most people use the vehicle on a daily basis. But I agree, % is optimal.
There seems to be a lag between detection of cars on the road and display on the screen, a few seconds actually
Nice video.
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Blindspot monitor should have been shown on the higher portion of the screen
agree