Harley Sportster, 883 to 1200, Top End Install, (1 of 2 )!
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- Today, first leg, fitting an "S&S 1200 Pistons and Cylinders kit" !
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It's an honor to watch you work, Del. I'm blown away by your attention to detail and the fact that you won't accept anything short of perfection. This series should be required watching for HD dealer mechanics. Huge thanks to you and Penny. 🙂
Wow, thank you Rick for such words of kind and generous support... we put so much in to this, making the content is a full time job whilst we still have day jobs at the same time, so to know it's appreciated so much makes it all worthwhile... it would take me maybe a third of the time to do the work quietly by myself off camera, but filming all the angles and aspects of the work at least doubles the time and the post-production doubles that again... a 10min video is often a 12hr day at least by the time it's online... so thank you so much for your kind words.
Awesome episode. Circlips falling into the engine or sproinging off into the 9th dimension never to be seen again, has always been a real terror for me personally. Being able to sit comfortably with a cup of tea watching vicariously, still produces a bit of nervousness though! hee hee
ha ha.. my greatest worry is receiving a circlip in the eye, so i always slip a pair of glasses on for that bit.. Glad you enjoyed it buddy. D&Px
Ahhh when in the shop and you hear that noise sprooong... and then the fk, then you chuckle to yourself.
I was worried about the clips also!
It's almost like they're designed specifically to do that. I swear I've had more circlips fly across the room than come off easily 😂 That and springs deciding to explode everywhere if you don't expect them to be there.
@@MattRiddell You too then?! ...if I ever need a spare spring for something, I normally have a route round the corners of the garage, or under the bench, as there's bound to be a few there lurking from a previous strip down! Have a great day brother!
Hi Del, another great vidio,carnt wait for the next one ,when I had my heart attack I lost a bit of interest in doing the maintenance on my motorcycle but seeing your video,s has given me my enthusiasm back ,I've already rebuilt my front brake calipers on my Suzuki GSX1400 so a bigTHANK YOU to you and Penny Regards Dave
Hi Dave, Sorry to hear you've had the same as me, and i had a few struggles with motivation after the surgery and convalescence, but life goes on, and we aren't here long enough to mope about... I'm so glad we can motivate you to get back to it and enjoy your bike again.. Take care and keep getting well mate, and of course, ride safe.
Whoah! Insane amount of work in this video. Meticulous as always. Loved watching this one and learnt a fair bit! Cheers Del!
Most welcome mate. Glad you enjoyed it!
I love watching this stuff thank you! Building my engine this weekend for the second time (had a bit of a head gasket leak) but I don't mind. I like working on my bikes as much as I enjoy riding them. It's a good thing I guess... 😂
Good luck mate, hope it goes well for you this time, and you're right, the process is enjoyable in itself!
Can’t wait until I get mine. Was looking at pre owned, even vintage iron heads, after restoring my 79’ KZ650-4 decided on brand new un-molested working bike where I’ll know 100% it’s history of service.
Good Morning. I'm Aluisio Moreira Brazil. I have a sportster xl 1200, I watch your channel, I'm a big fan, and I've learned a lot, today I fix my harley myself. My contact is more to thank you for passing on your knowledge. Thank you and congratulations for your work.
Thank you for your kind words, subscribe for notifications of new videos twice a week, good to hear from you!
I love the care, patience and attention to detail that went into that - great to watch - many thanks!
Thank you Mike. Glad you enjoyed it, and really appreciate your support..
It's great watching you work. I've got a 2016 Iron 883 and you're inspiring me to upgrade it to a 1200!
That is awesome Jonny, go for it mate, you'll love the extra power and torque, and it's not that hard to do yourself either. !
Great video Del. Nice S&S kit. I can’t wait to see the cylinders completed.
Thanks buddy👍, glad you're enjoying it.
Another great hit brother ! it has been a great learning experience! cant wait for the next one 💪. love the fact that you are staying within the budget, ive been there and its always more than anticipated 😂 . But since you already have the experience Im glad you are staying in track , specially with all the expensive parts 👍 but well worth it in the end . stay safe guys cheers from new york 🍷🍷🍷🍺🍺🍺🍺
You're so right brother, it's real easy for the budget to run away like a forest fire!... I priced up Andrews cams and SE cylinder heads and with the relevant big more carb I'd need too it came to more than the price of an S&S crate motor, so I just decided to cut the cloth at pistons and barrels only, which will give me a motor that's pretty much the same as a factory 1200, but with a little more torque as these are high comp pistons and obviously the lowering gearing in the primary, so should be a good fun bike to ride, especially in the dirt ha ha! Have a great week both, stay safe, D&Px
Enjoying this series soooo much! Meticulous workmanship from you mate and world class camera work from Penny to capture it all so clearly. You are a great team 👍 can’t wait for the next instalment!
Thank you so much for those kind words of encouragement and support buddy, it's a lot of work to make this content, so your feedback makes it all worthwhile!
Make sure it’s clean can be said about so many things in life!😅 Thanks for the video.
You're so right brother, It's great to hear from you, and we hope you keeping safe and well.. D&Pxx
Both top and bottom end 😂
Tons of painstakingly tedious work there. Great to see it coming together 👍🏻. I might have considered trolling the internet by sand blasting one of the old cylinder barrels after you said you were going to remove the factory corrosion protectant off before oiling everything up. Hahaha
Ooh controversial.. can you imagine the fizzy hysteria and swollen puffy faces and tear stained cheeks !! lol... they'd all have to have a little cry and a lie down..!
I like such serene days of working with an engine. Great vid, Del. Very relaxing after an offroad day with the Transalp.
Günter from Nürnberg/Germany
Thank you for those kind words my friend, and im glad to hear you had a good days ride, Transalp is a wonderful all round bike.. Ride safe and have a great week Günter.. D&Px
Awesome video Del. Loved the detail you showed on the installing of the piston heads. One of your best videos Del.
Thank you Sir 👍, really appreciate your kind words, and we're glad to hear you're enjoying this Harley project! Hope you and the family are keeping safe and well there!
Some serious work being undertaken in this project, also superb filming and editing into the mix.
Thank you Martin, it's a fair bit of effort, so we really appreciate your kind feedback!
Great video, thanks for sharing! Just bought my second sportster, this time a 883 2003 custom(first one was a 1200cc) So will be doing this upgrade at some point😎
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed the video..Good luck with your project.
nice one Del, was just thinking when you put the heads on then realise you forgot to put one of the head gaskets on as you look over at the bench.. LOL all good though :-) I think what would be a tiny/good idea is make an on purpose mistake then get ppl to ask in the comments what they think it is/was! then reveal in the next episodes :) "did you spot the mistake" kinda thing, eg not put the gudgeon pin retainer in.. keep us on our toes :) and also helps people make sure they do things in order and correctly.. like you do :)
You're my ABSOLUTE go-to for even the SIMPLEST proceedure. You should change your title to "Delboy's Garage, Ph.D", lol.
Great work there Del, this is the stuff i love!….engine work! Ive never done it or know how to do it, it just fascinates me how it all works inside the casings…whirring away …..ignition, combustion, exhaust and all that 🤷🏼♂️
Thanks buddy, Glad you enjoyed it and really appreciate your support as always.
I remember back in the day, stripping the cylinders off an 883. Dropped everything off and left the pistons in situ. Comes the time to drop the cylinders back on… pissed about for what seemed hours trying to get the pistons back in. 20 fags and many coffees later, a mate suggested taking the pistons off and housing them as you did here. It just seemed like so much work with no guarantees. Anyway, did as he suggested, straight in, on, job done. Lesson learned, all be it the hard way. Good job brother, really coming along!
Thanks buddy, I appreciate that, and yep we struggled back in the day, I used to take the heads and barrels off my RD250 for a good de-coke every now and again, and I used an old soup can and a jubilee clip to hold the rings in... slightly posher tools now but same principles aye?! Hope you're both keeping safe and well.
You have taught me a ton regarding my 2017 iron 883, I really appreciate it.
I have one question, I have a bit of an oil weep that seems to be coming from the output shaft/counter shaft/front belt pully area.
How bad of a job is it to replace this seal behind the belt pulley? Thank you in advance and thanks for all the high quality content!
Hi there, thank you for your kind words.. Yes you can replace the seal behind the front sprocket.. easy enough job.. you just need to get the large sprocket nut undone, i think from memory its 2" or maybe 2 and 1/4".. and it's left hand thread too.. i made a video of the chain and sprocket conversion in this series which has a demonstation if you need it.
@@Moonfleet41
You are a sporty guru!!
I can't tell you how valuable your insights have been. This really helps.
I love my iron 883 and your videos have given me confidence to do some of the work on it. Keep up the great work!!
@@mushroomcloud1You're most welcome mate, just basic information and as you'll find out, it's pretty simple.
Hello Delboy, My book shows a bore of 3 inches for the 883, the stroke of 3.812 being same
for the 1200, so increasing the bore by very close to half an inch willincrease compression?
Speed? I don't know if torque would be increased, it seems the longer the stroke the more
torque as the farther/further away from the crankshaft you go the more leverage you have ?
or is it possible to get more torque with a larger bore?/ Got Delboys coffee cup Thursday, I
use it at my puter desk for pens and small bits of harware found in pockets b4 I do laundery.
I hope you made a few bob or pounds on that! It seems many Harley's have an S&S air cleaner
and post have S&S carbs too. going on ten yrs with my Sporty only 1ce did I have an issue with
the carb, did not want to idle. otherwise top notch on the hi-way. a few oz of Seafoam in 2
gal of gaz and 2 Coors (Beers) later, running like a charm.
You can tell you like working on Harley's more than other makes. In your element.
Ha ha, thanks mate. does it show lol!?
Beautiful to watch that process Del & Pen! Thank you for all your dedication to perfection. Love from Oz.
Thank you very much Paul, that's very kind, we really appreciate your feedback!
Great vid, Del and Penny! I thought for certain that you’d need to remove the motor from the frame to get the clearance you needed… but I definitely was wrong with that assessment. Beautiful production work and camera was spot on! Brilliantly done, both of you… 🏍👍🏍
Thank you so much Gary, it was a great day and i really enjoyed the process, looking forward to getting the heads and rocker assemblies on too, once it's buttoned up i can get on with other work! Take care and enjoy your week.. D&Pxx
@@Moonfleet41 😎 same to you!
Gotta love new engine parts, they look like Jewelry! Great work Del.
Thanks Andrew 👍, you're dead right, who doesn't love new parts!
Loving the engine work 😀👍
Fantastic video. Real methodical, structured approach to this. Highly insightful. Looking forward to Part 2. Keep up the good work.
Glad you enjoyed it mate, and appreciate your feedback!
I prefer the piston in the barrel then attach to the conrod method like you did in the video, especially so if you don't have a helper. I put Morgo 750 barrel's on a 650 Bonneville in the 70's. Your kit cost more
than my brand new Rickman Bonneville did in 74. (800 quid).
Yeah, how silly have prices become, i put a Morgo kit on a TR6P back in the 80's, the whole job including gaskets and oil was less than £200... Happy old times aye mate.
@@Moonfleet41 Simpler times that is for sure.
So you’re upgrading 883 to 1200 ?? That’s quite a job there !!! Looking forward next series!!
You know I’d liked hear it run before and after… since I’m deaf… I would feel the difference!!
Sure thing buddy, I did retain the footage of it running at the beginning when I rolled it in, so I will be naturally be able to run it up and overlay the two before and after once this is put back together, I think that would be a great video feature, perhaps you'll still be able to tell maybe through some base speakers and touching them, it will be significantly 'beefier' afterwards.
@@Moonfleet41 I use my iPhone speakers full blast, feel the vibe… back of phone.. would be good test!!! Lol
Nice job as always Del.
For my old bones though, I would have probably left it at 800cc - lol.
🤗, well, with this setup it'll be an under stressed street bike with bags of lazy torque.. overtaking in high gears with lots of smooth roll on..
I get home from school every day hoping you release a new video! Sending love from Texas, delboy
Fantastic episode Del. Sorry for the late comment. Been in England all last week and wished I could have stayed longer.
Great job on the head and piston rebuild well worth the patience. Watched it on TV and the sound and picture are top class. Thanks for sharing your wisdom! 🇸🇪🇬🇧😊👋🏻
Thanks so much Paul, glad you had a good time, and thanks so much for your kind words as usual, it's very much appreciated when we put so much in to it! Take care and have a great week mate.
Well executed and everything as it should be done in the best possible way, great work and makes me do the same tidy work in my garage. I have seen another TH-camr watching your video and commented on how, why you do things, it's practically slating you, well that behaviour is disgusting and I very much enjoy what you have done for many years. Excellent video Sir, hope yourself is gaining strength by the day, and best wishes to Penny, take care
Hi Andy, There will always be unhappy, sad and destructive people in life, just look past them and keep moving towards the sunlight mate, life's too short to engage with negativity. Thank you for your support, and have a great week both of you.. D&Px
@@Moonfleet41 I know what you are saying, but I wasn't brought up with hate. So it's so naughty for people to slate someone off when they are doing the right thing.
Will be better when we both get rid of our colds, there's always a first, never had a day off in a decade or so
That piston ring compressor looks posh !
Mine says Heinz on it ..😀
Peace and love to you both 👍🏻☮❤
Ha ha.. i have the Heinz one also.. but thought it was time for an upgrade..lol! Keep safe buddy.. D&Pxx
Lovely bit of kit there. Fantastic work as always Del. Your attention to detail puts most other mechanics to shame. Keep it up.
Many thanks Ray, that's very generous of you and much appreciated.
Great job Del, meticulous as always looking forward to the next vid...ride safe.
Thanks buddy👍
Hi del , is there a front and back cylinder or are they the same , and you said about the gearing on the primary drive but are the gearbox the same , theres a few channels turning these into off road bikes , interesting to see what you do with this , got me hooked on this build take care
Pretty much everything accept the primary front sprocket was the same on the two models back on these bikes, so you end up with slightly lower gearing overall, and im fitting a chain and sprockets too eventually, so it should be a great bike to ride.
Good progress made fitting the cylinders Del. 🙂🙂👍👍👍👍👍 Be amazing to hear it start up. 👍👍👍
Thanks mate👍
Lovely to watch, it's amazing what one can do to a Harley motor, endless possibilities. Hi to PP & have a great weekend. I just got back from Prague, had lens replacement on my one good eye , trifocal lens put in, so no glasses anymore 😑
Hi Geoff, good to hear from you! Wow that's a drastic step, but clearly worth it to enhance your life... we hope your recovery goes really well! Have a safe and peaceful week there, all the best from us both!
@@Moonfleet41 about 12 yr ago I had a detached retina in my left eye, & it was classed as a bad detachment, so having the right one brought up to a better strength was a good option for me, & it was a third of the price compared to the 🇬🇧, a mate had it done a few yrs ago & the clinic is rated very highly, it was a bit intrusive but took about 30 min with the eye anaesthetised , there's more off the counter bits in me than the bionic man, titanium bits in my spine, stents etc 😀, got to laugh haven't you 🤭🤭🤭
@@geoffozevans4500 Blimey Geoff, you're Steven Austin... we can re-build him! Glad it went well and fingers crossed for a good recovery, eyesight is a precious thing.
@@Moonfleet41 thanks both 👍
Another awesome video man!
This video is showing you knowledge and satisfaction of engine rebuild ASMR. Superb video ❤
Thank you Sir!
I'm running behind on your videos 🤭 but awesome Job Del and you make it look so easy. Penny and You Del Have A Great Day 👍
Thanks Paul 👍, glad you're enjoying the videos, we're having a great time with this project, and lots more to come... thank you so much for your support as always!
Just got a brief glimpse of the cross hatching at least you didn't have to do that Del. Took a bit of spotting, fine workmanship will you be lapping in the valves and using Seafoam to clean the carbon off in the head if you are not planning on upgrading anything? Absolutely love those piston crowns you could eat your cakes off them aye.
Hello Mark, this engine is remarkably good internally, and there's no need to make unnecessary work for myself, I've dropped out the cams, followers and primary for inspection and even the clutch was like new, so won't need to pull the heads apart, just going to take some time to clean up the gasket faces meticulously in the next video, and then simply re-assemble the top end... it's fine as it is, and if the cart ain't broke, don't fix it aye?! Have a blessed week, ride safe!
@@Moonfleet41 nice one Del looking forward to the next thrilling instalment.
My bike however isn't really up to scratch as I am off the road (ride safe) as I or rather my sister has bailed me out and gave me the money needed to get the things needed to make my bike reliable.
Had to replaced the rectifier and alternator but this last item won't be delivered until next month.
A recruiter I can cope with but not a major component!
@@Butterfly07949 Yes Marc, the cost of parts is one thing, they're worse when they hit you with delivery delays! Hope you get it all sussed out mate.
Hey Del and Penny another excellent video. This new to me and extremely interesting - thanks for bringing us along! Take care and be well.
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you as always and keep safe.
That’s my plan for my sporty next, tank you Dell.
Makes it look easy!
Awesome video as always!
Thanks again Eric, we appreciate it!
Why didn't you just bore the seasoned cylinders to fit the larger pistons ?
The money saved could have been used towards a valve job, cams or both.
Sadly not Kurt, by the time we've bought pistons and then all the gaskets separately, it adds up to pretty much the same money... 'kits' are always a good option as everything is thrown in at a price... and yes, I did check first and literally less than £100 difference.
Great production both - enjoyed that 👍
Many thanks Richard!
Looking good. Great work 👍.
Thanks Mike.
This is a huge upgrade...my only concern would be, is the lower half built well enough to handle this?
The bottom end of these bikes are identical, 883 and 1200, the only difference being the size of the front primary sprocket, other than that, it's the same bottom end!
Excellent video Del & Penny. Very nice job mate, so relaxing watching it all coming together. Penny and you have a great week. Cheers
Thanks mate 👍, we are really glad you're enjoying it, it's a really enjoyable process... enjoy your week too, keep safe and stay in touch, D&Px (PS we are actually having a mini heatwave here at last!!)
Excellent vid
Still watching you do awesome work I ride 99 Softail with over 80k everything is good but if and have no doubt it will make it to 100k but I am tearing her down this fall for up grades and complete rebuild will do labor myself
Best of luck with your project Virgil, remember to have fun and enjoy it!
Brilliant I love it del
Do you have to make any other changes to internal components like camshaft valves crankshaft etc etc when you fit a big bore kit. What about fuelling does that need to be retuned
Rather wonderfully with Harleys, you can just simply slap in the bigger pistons and deal with the fueling and that's usually no more than a re-jet on the carb or a re-flash on the fuel injection map... you can change cams if you want even more power, but the bottom end of any Harley can take incredible amounts of extra tuning, even turbos, they're immensely strong!
what type of file are you using, that is clamped in your vice? The grit, also, what file are you using to round the burrs?
I bet you enjoyed assembling them, reminds me when I did the old man’s Bonnie 😀 well done team 👏🏻
Yes buddy, seriously rewarding to be assembling new parts!
Excellent Video! Would you happen to know a method of how to easily identify whether my sportster is an 883 or an 883 with a 1200 conversion? Thanks.
DVLA records maybe ?
S&S Cycle...sportster...lightening the weight.. Sure sounds like he's making the hooligan dirt tracker! I race a triumph dirt trackin' hooligan.
You may be onto something there ..!
Found a mint 883r with 2000miles on it. Bout to low ball the hell outta them and do the conversion
Quick question, why would S&S not send the piston rings with the correct gaps? They machined the cylinders and pistons, would the gap be different for different bikes?
Should of watched further into the video where you say they typically should not need adjustment.
Indeed, much of the time they're fine, and the difference is maybe 5 thou at most.. it's just critical to get right, so it's correct practice to always check them for yourself.. !
Always good to watch👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks 👍
what a great video👍
Thank you! 👍
Loved it! Two thumbs up, one for Del and one for Penny!! 👍 👍
Yay, thank you Harold, that is so kind of you. Have a wonderful week sir, and stay in touch.
Excellent work...thanks mister!
Can you tell us a bit more about the s&s kit? Specs and such, bully!!!
Great vid Del, really enjoyable
Thanks Dave. Glad you enjoyed it!
Lovely job mate
Nice new shiny oiley bits are always exciting and fun to work with
Nick Australia
Thanks Nick 👍, you're dead right there mate, nothing like shiney new parts!
Hello ! I love your videos! I got a question, how you set up arrows on pistons? Cheers
This is the best build series so far! ⚡️
Thank you kindly Tom!
what fluid did you use to scrape the old gasket off
Was brake cleaner!
Meticulous, amazing stuff and great detail on your videos.
Thank you kindly!
Nice job ! Thanks for the inspiration 😃
My pleasure 😊
Your having to manage the pennies, whilst the Penny manages you....😉. Nice vid mate.
You got that right!.. thanks buddy!
That would be an exciting package to receive in the mail!
Hiya del mike here again ;-) question for you my mate, i want to solder a barrel nipple on to a throttle cable is it ok to use brake cleaner to clean the cable after you have frayed it or what cleaner can you recommend pls thanks del ;-),
Email me privately mate... delboysgarage@yahoo.com
he does it all non-chalant but u gotta check that circlip and triple check it too
😁 I think we're on a winner here Delboy, play it nice and cool son, nice and cool, You know what I mean? He Who Dares Wins my Son lol, great vid mucka.
😁... Bonet da doosh mate..!
@@Moonfleet41 Capo Di Monte avec Cul de Sac,, as they say in France. LOL, He who dares, Rides.
Super satisfying to watch :)
Glad you enjoyed!
Another superb video Del! Explained meticulously. Appreciated as always. Great camera work Penny!
Thanks Shaun, glad you enjoyed it, and yep, our Penny does a great job aye!
Nice camera work penny. Miss you. :)
Thank you so much! 😊 Ppx
Hi Del & Penny nice meticulous work Del enjoyed your video.
Thanks Graham👍, we're glad you enjoyed and thanks for your support!
another great vid
Cheers mate..
Boy, I just saw that "Nate" dudes video on Delboy. What a crybaby. Del's entertaining to watch and doesn't put you to sleep. Del isn't perfect, nobody is, and I'll be damned if I've ever met anyone that knows everything; unless maybe it's you??? Please. 🤣
Thanks Mark, you know how it is with haters, you could walk on water and they'd say it's because you can't swim!
another fab vid del
Looks like Christmas!
Been waiting for this!!! 😀
R.T.F.B.?? you're gonna get kicked out of the MAN CLUB!!! Great Videos!! Thanx!!!
Are you going to do a Hsr42 carb?
I wish, or maybe a nice S&S Super E... but not in the budget im afraid ! will be dealing with the carb though.
@@Moonfleet41 the Hsr clones are about 80$ us
Alot of people run them with great success
@@thatbuelldude189 any suggestions on a decent HSR clone? Thanks
Hi del penny hope you had a good easter.
Be dafe
Hi Simon, lovely to hear from you Sir, hope you're keeping safe and well there in the sunshine!
Cheers Delboy Exellent episode 👍👍👍
Thank you Jason!
Lovely👍👍
Thanks 🤗
don't the jugs only go on 1 way ,,marked towards the front,,if I remember right
Yes mate, they only fit one way round or you'll have no room for the push rod tubes !
Niiiice 👏👏👏👏
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I just bought a Sportster 1200, found out it's a 883....💀