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I live in Australia and bought my 1997 883 Sporty from a friend back in 2009, for a good price and rode it around for a few years until I got it set up how I like as far as suspension etc. I bought the 1275 kit from Hammer Performance, along with a more capable clutch, the oil pump drive gear they make, the CNC machined ignition rotor they produce, and I put in the 2007 upgraded oil pump as well. I used the standard heads and the 2-1 exhaust that came on the bike when I purchased it. I had already had an S&S air cleaner setup installed, which was a massive improvement over the factory one. I can’t speak highly enough about Hammer Performance! They are outstanding people to deal with! The difference in the performance of my Sporty is AWESOME! Not only does the upgrade give me more power, I get much better mileage than I had. The guys at HP say this is due to the squish band producing a more efficient burn, which makes sense, but it’s way better than I expected. I now have a bike that is better balanced, so; smoother, but has bags more torque and power throughout the rev range that’s more than enough for what I want. It cost me just over $1500 (AUD), which means I haven’t spent more on the bike in total than I can reasonably recoup if I ever want to sell it. Which I don’t think will ever be the case. Hammer Performance is the BEST!
I just had my old solid mount 883 converted to 1200cc by a great local bike shop (A Harley only bike shop) that’s been in business for 35 years. Very happy with the results, huge power and torque gain!
Hell yeah! Congrats that is awesome, a 1200 conversion almost doubles the power over the 883 cylinders. A good independent shop is one of the best places to take a bike!
@@GixxerFoo Thanks, man. Yeah and I just completed the 500 mile break-in, and then opened it up a bit. Far more power than I was actually expecting, tons of torque and it's crazy over 3500rpm. This one has the stock heads, but they did head work, new valves and springs, Andrews N4 cams (I think these are medium grind, labeled as "street/drag" 2000-6000rpm"), carb re-jetted of course, big sucker air filter, and fairly open slip on pipes.
The Harley dealership is insanely expensive but the one thing I do like about them is they do you know how to fix your bike I can’t speak for everyone else they do get it done very well but 130 an hour on most of things on my bike, I can do myself even without know how a quick TH-cam search and you can do most of the work to your bike yourself, but when it comes to engine and cam work I will absolutely leave that to the dealership or find a good motorcycle shop near me, which I may do all of this next winter time at this place I found called get lowered.
The main reason i bought my 2016 iron was because of the color compared to all the other sportsters . I put 500 break in miles on her , then called hammer and spoke with Arron for an hour on the phone . Placed an order for 1275 big bore kit and bought hammer Preformance air intake as well . While I was waiting for their kit my mechanic had my 883 heads ported here locally in CT. And I also bought a set of Andrews cams. Got everything put together and put 500 miles on it for the break in ,They sent me a map for my power vision From hammer performance.And I absolutely love the bike. Plan on having a Dyno tune done this summer at some point , The bike screams and I love it. Hammer performance big bore kit is best money I spent. End of story.absolutley love my bike !!!!!
I'd say they are best on the market! I bet your Iron is a real sleeper now, people see an Iron and assume it's still an 883 lol. Best part is you still get the 883 price with the insurance company!
I agree 100% Hammer is the best when it comes to everything Sportster ! , Arron and Hammer Dan are great to work with extremely Knowledgeable and willing to help. And honestly my bike is a very mild street build compared to what the guys at hammer build . My iron is probably around 88-90 horsepower. It’s a great all around street bike for me . But lol I already want more !!!! Thank you for the video , keep the sportster stuff coming . I’d like to know more adout your bike . I’ll subscribe now
@@GixxerFoo right but if you ever got an accident and the insurrance calls an expert , he will see the modification and your insurrance Can refuse to paid..
I have a 2005 883XLC that i bought two years ago and put 10 thousand miles on. Getting it converted to 1200 this winter. Looking forward to spring 2023.
I have done the Hammer 1275 but went all out with cams and porting on heads. It will turn your sporty into a monster! I am right at the 120HP mark and you do loose some down low drivability but people are amazed at how hard it pulls away. I have blown some of the big twins away light to light. Need to build my RK up next and wake that 103 up. Depending on how hard you are on the bike after the Hammer kit goes in belt life is decreased a lot but I still prefer it over the chain for ease of maintence.
Hammer is where it's at and l am jealous of your numbers! Damn all out and over 120 on a Sportster! Might just still eat that RK... what year is your Sportster?
@@GixxerFoo My 2005 is a absolute blast just remember to price out all the other components that will make and hold all the new power, If you plan to keep the bike the expense is worth it.
I put the hammer performance 1275 kit in my bobber, bigger cams, roller rockers, adjustable push rods, bee hive valve springs, bigger valves, rejected the carb, and built my own custom exhaust, my bike absolutely rips
2016 48 here with 1275 kit, 560 cams, stock 1200 heads, powervision, exhaust and intake....rips harder than my fxdls (110ci) with a pipe and heavy breather...a lot harder...but you really have to wring its friggen neck, but thats the fun part. +1 for hammer I worked with Dan on my setup and base tune, really top notch guys and extremely awesome service.
That's awesome! They say the stock late model heads are pretty damn good as is. I'm planning on the same setup except with 570 cams. What compression ratio did you end up going with?
I just got my 1275 kit , 570 cams, smash head work to 883 heads, 10 to 1 30 degree reverse some pistons and all the supporting components from hammer delivered to my door for just under $3000 with the xlforum member discount. Aaron told me, depending on the exhaust, this kit would easily break 90 hp. And like you mentioned without even winding it up too crazy. I’m expecting close to 100 hp.
@@Partyatmosphere It's true that there are many fast and cheap bikes, and it's not hard to find one with high power and high rpm, but you can't find one that is more handsome than Harley, highly customizable, and can satisfy over 100 horsepower with extremely low rpm. The hammer kit Harley can even easily achieve 10 seconds from 0-400. Considering the fact that it can have high power and low rpm with such a handsome posture, the answer is, only Harley.
I have a 2015 forty eight and I put the S&S 1250 big bore kit with cams. Then I put screaming eagle stage 4 heads on with cobra pipes. New S&S adjustable push rods and I did have it dyno tuned. 107hp and I did all the work my self but the tune
That's frickin awesome!! Doing it yourself is the best way so you know it's done right! I bet that bike absolutely rips, S&S makes some super quality products.
@@GixxerFoo Yes its almost to much and with the 2.2 gal tank I only get about 70 miles on a full tank when I drive normal. I have been a small engines technition for a long time and this bike was the first fuel injection bike I have owned and worked on so I learned a lot about it.
@@adamak47miller90 My wife has 48 and it's stock other than a tune, exhaust and air cleaner. It get's about 70 miles to a tank too, that's pretty awesome for your bike to get that with all the mods. Fuel injection isn't that bad to work on, what tuner did you go with?
I think another option, that is worthy of discussion, is using a buell xb12 engine, you can get them reasonably cheap, about 1k for a good motor, tear it down, you have the jugs, the pistons, the heads, the cams, the lifters, you get the crank and rods ( the buell bottom end is significantly stronger than the sportster engines bottom end) ,, you do have to get the original sportster case machined to accept the buell bottom end, ( its reasonable, lots of shops are familiar with the conversion) , I think you also have to use some of the primary pieces from the buell engine as well,, but for the total cost, if your handy with a wrench, and have worked on these engines, it's easy to do I think. For well under the price of some of these kits, you can build a 100hp, 85ft lb engine, that revs happily to 7k, without destroying the bottom end. With some more money, if it's in your budget, for about 700 bucks, you can get the 110hp big bore kit for the buell, use it on your sportster build, and you can have a 110hp monster, and for close to the same cost as some of these kits are that include the heads and everything. On a side note, even staying with the sportster spacific kits, the bottom ends will never be as capable, as the buell bottom end. I forgot to mention also, that with the buell engine, you also get the upgraded, and stronger oil pump, and the drive gear ( the buell one is an excellent piece, many write ups on doing a sporty to buell oil pump conversion) ,, for the price for a cheap buell engine, you get tons of upgrades, that would cost you so much, if you just sourced the parts individually. Just a thought, but this is the other ( and in my opinion, the better option) for building a reliable, sleeper sporty. Great video as always/ fist bump
Thank you! Yeah Buell engines are awesome! They have a few differences like cam numbering to be aware of but they do have much higher quality parts. It doesn't take much to get those motors into a Sportster frame. Although l wouldn't tear a salvage Buell apart if it had a good chassis. I'd love to get a Buell XB12R Firebolt... l regret not picking one up years ago now.
Just subbed bro, i like your laid back style. I have the 1275 kit went with the bathtub heads an used the fueling 505/515 reaper cams, also used a Dynatek DSPT cdi box. My sporty is vicious! First, second an third it will carry the front wheel on a hard shift! I love when guys say nice girls bike, lol! A drunk guy at York pa. Bike night last year. Said that i had a girls bike. Till he got smoked by it! Some fat dude on a softail! Lol anyway ride on bro. I be watchin'🤙
@@GixxerFoo this phone keeps putting me down as my wife, but yeah my bike is 2005 carbureted. I went with a 46mm mikuni smooth bore. Its a 10.5-1 set up, i went an smoothed up the heads didnt really hog them out. But the 515 reaper cams cam be ran with the stock valve train. I get a little money saved im going with hammer performance 600 race cams. Need shorter valves for this though. It should make a little over 130hp without the spray. Im installing a sneaky pete's nitrous kit 100hp wet shot! I dont like a motorcycle if it dont scare me a little! Lol
@@missyfochtman4203 That's how l like my bikes! Damn you're gonna go with 600 lift cams?? Those are pretty extreme, is this your street ride?! Holy crap, yeah no doubt you're gonna be up there in the horsepower. I'd rather have a built Sportster than any other Harley, l do everything with my bike. City, touring, you name it.
You might have mentioned this in another vid, I don't know, but if you're upgrading for power make sure you upgrade suspension and BRAKES! Maybe stick on a fork brace and steering damper aswell,if you're going round twisty roads. The OE parts just aren't up to those kind of horses.
I actually didn't mention that! Great thinking though! The older models brakes and suspension were not up to the task at all. 2016 and newer with the updated suspension and brakes are awesome, well compared to earlier years but there's always room for improvement. The 2011 and up Custom is hard to find a fork brace for with the wide front end, I have looked everywhere and they fit everything but that model.
@@GixxerFoo 2009 883 sportster XL. EFI, camshaft, open drag pipes ( when i first got it) now some mild baffles, reprogrammed ECU and im sure at a minimum 1200 kit. I've already hurt a Trackhawk owner's and a Hellcats owner's feelings with just a half throttle pull. It had 12k miles when i got it 2yrs ago it at 18k miles now. I just maintain it like it supposed to be maintained.
Exactly what I am thinking about doing, finding a used sportster 883....at a decent price. ..then putting the big bore kit on along with more customizing.
Good information and definitely agree a must is a shop manual. As far as an independent service I visited several and until I found one that felt like they cared and knew what they were doing.
You can make a 883 a monster, just remember to get the heads worked over for the on an 883. Even without the heads done you can still get up there in the power range!
The Harley Sportster 883 and 1200 have the same transmission gears, but the 1200 has a different number of teeth on the transmission pulley. The 883 has a lower gear ratio than the 1200, which means it accelerates faster but has more difficulty at high speeds.
Ahhhh l saw that too, l am wanting to go for the torque with the 1275 and the 570 cams. Those guys can hook you up with a package to do about anything you want.
Little over a week ago I have purchased the 100+ horsepower 1275cc kit for my 2018 Iron 883. Sent the heads out 5 days ago. Looking forward to bolting it up and getting the break in period started. Too bad I live in Wisconsin lol. Will update once I get it done and the winter wraps up.
Ive got a good bit of the Iron 1275 break-in process done. The lope from the cams is awesome. Havent even gone half throttle yet, have to keep it under 4K RPM still. She rips with minimal throttle, and I haven't even auto tuned yet
That break in process is excruciating to get through but it is critical to do right. I love Hammer's cams, they aren't as loud as a lot of Sportster cams with their ramp angle they designed. Did you go with their 560 cam?
The engines in the buells were not your run of the mill sportster engine. Buell did a lot to them. The later xb12s, xb12r, and xb12t has a 1203cc version that produced 103hp stock. I would love to get my hands on one of those.
Nice it reminds me of my younger years. It's great fun and I have been through the lot. 1200 conversion, cam's, Edelbrok heads a number of different carburettors and so on. All great fun but you are not getting back the money when you eventually sell up.
Couldn't agree more! You can't go into it expecting to get your money back, I usually keep bikes I build and just get something else later on. Unless someone just happens to make an offer I can't refuse then I might be inclined to let it go.
It's hard to beat! I've looked at some others that are floating around out there like from NRHS and Revolution. They just aren't as good in my opinion and they don't have the options Hammer has. More expensive too from some companies for only a 1250 kit.
I have a buell xb12ss lightning 106hp its a 1203 thunderstorm with xbrr oil pump and extra big crank pin standard and big brakes . Maybe some buell parts are the answer ?
@@shep236 At one time, the Buell heads were better, sure. But in 2004, all XL1200's models got what's essentially the Buell XB heads. Same ports, same valves, same spring pack, same chambers. The only differences are cosmetic. These are the best production heads ever made for the Evolution XL platform. The XL1200 continues to ship with these heads to the present day, with only some minor changes in 2007 when the switch to EFI happened.
What brand of kit did you use? I know Hammer stresses really hard to do it yourself and install it to the letter by their instructions, especially how it's broke in.
Leave the bottom end exactly the same and go at least to 1250 ci. You’ll thank me later... almost double the hp and definitely double the torque Andrews kit came with everything I needed. I opted for Cometic gaskets ($500.00 for top end and bottom end together) I also left my top end the same, but plan to shave about 40thousandths and better cams
Still breaking in my wife's 1996 883 conv. Did the 1275 kit with 30* rev.dome pistons . They did the heads. Let me tell you the heads are where the magic happens . Especially if your doing a hotter cam. The energy one clutch is plenty good they use Alto clutch fibers .can't wait to get it above 3000 rpm
I am jealous to say the least, the break in period is the absolute worst. You spend all that time building it and you have to baby it for what seems like forever!
@@GixxerFoo torque is crazy now, I got there black Friday deal with everything included .I mean everything all the way to new spark plugs was less than Harley offers for the 1200 kit .
@@shawn9878 Holy crap!! I totally missed out on that! I didn't even think to check for a Black Friday sale with them, you got one hell of a deal! I priced out what you did with the heads done as well and it was like over 2K. Hopefully they do it again this year! I want to make some big torque with mine.
@@GixxerFoo best bang for the buck it's getting your 883 heads matched to the 30* pistons Arron is a stand-up dude . If you do the 1275 kit do the heads for the revs some pistons not the flat tops do it ones and be done ...kinda like ripping a bandaid off lol
@@shawn9878 I really like Arron, he's pretty awesome and straight forward. I have the late model 1200 heads so I've been back and forth between having them rework them or just stick with the flat tops. The more I think about it and what you've said I think the reverse domes may be worth it honestly.
I went with a hammer 1250 kit, ported my heads, upgraded my clutch, k&n ram air and a thunder header. I have some thunderstorm heads and a 42 mm flatslide carb i want to put on next. That's my sporty trike in my avi.
@@GixxerFoo It will move! Obviously doesnt handle like a bike anymore so you have to watch the turns but it's a lot of fun! I'm a paraplegic so I adapted it so I could ride it again. All my brakes work off the lever, it has raked trees, air ride on the rear and a pingel electric shifter! I can pin the throttle back and slam through the gears without letting off the throttle! Its awesome! My son and I did all the work.
@@masterofnonetv8361 That just makes that bike even more special! That's awesome that you're riding and having a good time out there, especially on a hopped up trike. It's really tricked out, I can't believe you even have air ride on it!
@@GixxerFoo yeah I had to lower the rear some to make it easier to get on and off but I didnt want to make it a rough ride by putting like some burley slammers on it so I bought a kit off ebay. The compressor and all the wiring if under the rear fender so you cant see it. People really get a kick out of seeing me ride it with a wheelchair hanging off the back of it. They always chat me up at stop lights and then I leave them in the dust!😂
@@masterofnonetv8361 That is awesome, much respect to you for everything you've done to continue to ride. The Burly slammers give the bike a slick look but my gosh they ride awfully rough.
I really like how the 2004-2008 883s look and how they ride. They are ok but do need more power. I was thinking the big bore kit plus a very hot cam to boot.
@@GixxerFoo That is a plus for the good side of things. Insurance is high on most but some other things, pretty low really. It all depends on who you go with.
I notice that in the description there is a link to a video about maybe choosing a big twin instead of a Sporty.... I have both an '06 XL1200R that is now 'Hammered' out to 1250, and a '10 model Streetbob that is now 113" with reworked CVO top end that makes 130+bhp and 120+ torque. The Sporty is easier around town and for rides of ,maybe, under 150 miles - it also handle twisties much better due to the overall smaller size of the bike. I am 5'9" and a bit over-weight and find that if I am going further, such as hundreds or thousands of miles that the Dyna is the bike as it is more comfortable and handles speed better especially when loaded with camping gear etc. One trick all Sporty owners should look into is the bike's gearing.... especially if it is/was an 883. The primary gearing is so low as to make the engine revs very high at freeway speeds - and more vibes along with it. If you get a Hammer Performance 1250 or 1275 kit then the vibes lessen as the pistons leave the engine more balanced than the H-D stuff - look on Hammer's site and they explain it very well. Back to gearing - look on 883sportster.com I think it is and you can find bigger trans pulleys that sort the gearing out - I use a 32 tooth pulley on my 1200/1250 conversion and it leaves the bike cruising at over 90mph @ 4k rpm. It is not worth putting bigger cams in an 883 or twelve hundred (especially and 883/1200 conversion) without getting the heads ported as they don't flow enough for even the standard 883 or 1200's cams respectively. If you want power, go for the big twin but remember to replace the engine mounts as standard ones are rubbish - go to Big Bear Performance or Chopper Hauss ones though as all the others are just 'a Band Aid on an open wound' so to speak. For sheer performance the big twin is better, for fun it is the Sporty. As always folks, 'if you have to ask the prices Sir, then you cannot afford it' applies to most things ......
Very well put, Hammer has done some serious engineering in their products. I would hazard to guess they might know that Evo Sportster better than Harley.
What size tank do you have? My wife's 48 can eeeek out 80 miles with the 2.5 gallon peanut. My custom has the 4.5 gallon and l can get over 150 miles out of it.
@@missyfochtman4203 My wife loves the look of the peanut tank, so l get to carry an extra gallon of fuel for the long distance trips. Learned the hard way gas stations aren't always evenly spaced lol.
thank you so much, this is question that i had for a lifetime! i thought i can only convert my 883 to 1200 and 1200 only to stage 4 that is unfair, thank you so much
You're welcome, honestly the 1275 or 1250 is what the stage 4 should be. The 883 is same bottom end, cases and transmission. 883 just has smaller displacement cylinders, pistons and different cylinder heads.
I have a 883 with a 1275 kit in it. Also I have a new clutch in it and drag pipes and I changed the sprockets for top end on hwy. I roll at 135mph on the highway and still have some torque. I'm putting the turbo kit on it next and that'll be a extra 60 to 80 hp. It will wear out those big bikes. I've owned all kinds and those 883 Sportsters are bad to the bone to build.
My newly acquired 883 is going to get a conversion to 1200 by boring it out. I want the totally stock from outside look. Nothing to give away it’s putting down way more power. Lol. Not that it needs more power.
The Harley screaming eagle kit doesn’t make as much gains because it doesn’t include cams… so do cams as well and get more power. S&S hooligan is a great pick as well
Can I get a good kit for my 96 1200? What would you suggest? Thanks very much for any advice. You talked me into the gear drive cam for my 01 FXDX last year and I love it
That's awesome! On a 96 model you'll need to get some head work, the heads from 91 to 03 just weren't the best performance. For the street a 1275 kit and some head work will go long way, you could even add some of Hammer's 570 cams. 1275, head work and the 570 cam with a good exhaust is a great street setup.
Like your video and thanks I just have a problem with Hammer Prefomance. Followed instructions and wound up with scored cylinder. They said it was my fault because I didn't retard the timing like their web suggestions said. No wear did it talk about changing the stock timing in the paperwork that was sent to me with Prefomance piston kit. They had their money and could care less for the home installer. Wish I still had them I would show you photos. I've be a mechanic for many years and had no thought to change stock timing by 7 degrees after installing larger pistons.
I’m an ex MC guy. 1%er.. I’m pretty short too. I love sportsters! You can do anything to them to me their kinda like a VW bug. I used to fly and was able to keep up no problem. Like I said, I am a short kat. I make them into choppers now for people and their affordable as well. Right now I’ve been just doing custom leather seats I ended up getting hurt. Just found your channel! 👍🏽 hey if you or someone you know is interested in a leather seat give me a shout. I sell them probably for half the price of others. I like to make things so anyone can look good. I’m working on a wall of them to put in an art museum type place. It’s leatherwork so it can go in there but be sold as art. I have to give those people 50% that’s also why I don’t charge much. Depends on weather you have the base (hard plastic/metal) seat or need me to get one..
I think you didn't mention the remapping part. the fuel pack 3 and the screaming eagle and the other computers are also expensive. I'm looking a way to do it without buying those computers.
@@GixxerFoo oh yeah! And I was actually really impressed with their site! I mean the UI isnt the best I've ever seen, but it is so comprehensive and they cover just about all the questions one might have. I'll definitely be ordering from them when I get back to Vegas! For the lowest level kit, you dang near double the hp and tq for well under a grand. Crazy!
You can still run a belt if you want, Buells were 105 horse and still had the belt. Now if you're drag racing or something a chain conversion is a good idea.
No issues with reliability, Hammer makes a solid kit and just a bolt on 1275 kit with cams isn't even gonna be close pushing the boundries of a stock Sportster bottom end.
My 2015 883, has sat for a year after I slid it and cracked the primary cover. I got all the parts to fix everything and an oil change kit. Is there anything else I should do to the bike before running it? Or to get it running back right?
Did you leave any fuel in the bike? If you did, I would drain the tank and go back with fresh fuel with some fuel system cleaner. Fuel system cleaner will help with the injectors if they are a bit sticky, Lucas would be a good one to use, I usually put about a half ounce in on my wife's 2.1 gallon tank.
If i am converting my 2022 883 to the 1275 would you recommend new heads and/or new cams? Or would the conversion kitwith new clutch spring be enough? Also should i be getting it tuned after doing all this? Would this actually even still work on 2022 model? :/
You will for sure need a tune, get the Power Vision from Hammer and it will come preloaded with the tune. The vanilla conversion with reusing the 883 won't be too bad but if you can pop for head work go ahead and do it. You won't regret it cause the 883 are different than 1200 heads and the heads will hold it back a bit. But specify this when you order the kit, Hammer kits using the stock 883 have different pistons than what you get if you do head work.
Once installed how does one go about tuning it? Does it need to go to a dyno or is there a tuner you can put on and just download a preset map for it? Thanks.
Going through Hammer you would want to purchase a DynoJet Power Vison flash tuner. Hammer will send you a tune file or it will be preloaded on the unit if you buy it from them. This is a good base file which will work well with the bike and you can run auto tune sessions once it is broke in. This works and won't hurt the bike, it will run great like this but a full dyno tune is the absolute best to get the most out of the setup you chose.
I wonder how my little 883 can handle all that extra power and torque on its stock suspension and frame? Seems like the suspension, maybe even the forks might need some attention after doubling the power?
They do really well being upgraded with big bore kits. Engine handling it isn't a problem at all. The chassis does fine as well, assuming your forks are serviced and brakes are good.
@@GixxerFoo Awesome! Thank you! I have this 2o2o 883, it’s my first bike, and I have been wondering about upgrading to a soft tail in the near future for the extra power on the highway but I just love my sporty and don’t really want to see it go. I can’t afford two bikes but maybe if my 883 will do fine with a big bore kit sometime in the next couple of years I can just keep it and save some bucks on payments and insurance? Kinda the best of both worlds.
Ex as carly cause you're bike no matter the CC will always identify as an 883 by the vin 😄👍. That saves a lot of money on insurance. A big bore Sportster 1250/1275 is a blast to ride.
Holy crap that's pretty ambitious, Hammer does make a 88ci and 90ci setup. Well they get the cylinders from Axtell, you'll have to bore the cases though to make it work.
It's not really $300 more, because there's more in the HAMMER package. For example, you get a full Dynojet Powervision tuner, you get a full extra plate clutch kit, etc. So it's not apples to apples.
Can you help me out i upgraded my iron into 1275 hammer kit With screeming eagle breather Dinojet tune Cobra exhaust Fob security system BUT THE ISSUE IS BATTERY IT NEW BATTERY FROM HARLEY BUT BIKE UNABLE TO SELF UP LIKE IRON QUICKLY CAN YOU HELP ME OUT SHOULD I UPGRADED THE BATTERY
So hey I like the 1275 kit idea... but what about my stock parts that I will be running it from? ( like mentioned in the video the cams etc) will that 1275 kit be well maintained or in other words will it break my 883 later down the road
The stock bottom end on a Sportster is pretty stout, the only thing you want to upgrade in the process in the oil pump gear drive to a bronze gear drive. Buell had issues with the steel gear getting sharp and coming apart with the increased power. But it really all depends how your ride, Hammer says they are just as if not more reliable than stock.
I have a front primary pulley that I have sitting in my garage that's one tooth down for my 1200. I'm trying to figure out how to get the stupid thing off. It didn't budge with a 5 foot breaker bar, I guess I have to borrow someones 50 gallon air compressor and 1/5" impact.
The same gaskets for whichever head you have will still fit, 883 stock, ported or 1200 heads. There's not a special gasket for a big bore kit, that's the cool part about these kits.
Hey Gixxer, great stuff thanks. I just bought a 2005 sporty 883 C but I find the seat is waay uncomfortable, I keep pushing myself back up and on top of the passenger seat... Am I alone in this? I am just under 6' and about 100kg. Tx bro
Road King has gotta be like riding on a cloud compared to the Sportster. The new suspension on them is much improved but l'd like to try some aftermarket suspension.
Baker actually makes a 6 speed, but it's only for the 03 and earlier models that had the trap door. I'm curious to see if a guy couldn't split the cases and change the gear set out on 04 and newer. I'll drop Baker a email and see if there's anything about their transmission that would prevent that from being done.
GixxerFoo my only question at this point is which kit is most worth it - just the 1275 basic or should I start saving for the big kits. I’m trying to make my sportster more highway capable.
Honestly a 1275 and a set of their cams with a good exhaust system and air cleaner is plenty for a street bike. What year is your bike, is it a 1200 or an 883?
Being a 99, if your not going to have the heads ported l would go with a basic 1275 conversion. It's cheaper to do it all at once unless you don't mind taking it down several times. If you do port the heads l'd do a 1275 and change the cams. I personally like the 570 hammer cam at 10:1 compression. I like the the torque and power low to mid. The 560 cam at 10.5:1 is more power but it's mid to high rpm range.
Depends how far you take your bike and what cams you use. If you are running the stock cams and head with a 1275 kit at stock compression you'll be looking at torque in the mid 80's, that's up from the 70ish stock.
It will have to be retuned, if you get the 1275 from Hammer and a Power Vision tuner they will send you a map or preload the map on the Power Vision if you buy the PV from them. Tuning is really easy and simple to flash the ECM, it's all step by step with on screen prompts.
@@GixxerFoo nice thank you for your response I’m thinking of converting mine I was going to go with S&S 1200 but came across your video and the hammer performance would I have to change my Injectors? Also when you did yours did you do the gears also the s&s has a full kit that comes with gears I was wondering if doing the gears would be a great idea as well thank you for your time and responding.
Hands down any day, l would go with the Hammer kit converting an 883. Even if you keep the 883 heads go with Hammer. It would cost a bit more but it would be well worth it to have Hammer port the 883 heads. Even on a 1200 a conversion kit to a 1275 would be worth it.
@@GixxerFoo ya, I spoke with Aaron about it... at this point with my situation, I think I'm going basic 1275 so I can keep it on the road at the right price! If i really need more power after that, there is a little bit a room for cams. :)
S&S has a 1250 kit with cams, the hooligan kit. They advertise it at about 85 horsepower, but I would highly recommend Hammers 1275. It's cheaper all said and done, excellent quality and more bang for your buck.
yea ofcouse basic spring loaded hydraulic brake same breaks as a shovelhead or dyna with a 1375 motor you can upgrade your stock brakes if ya feel better the oem rear brakes are kinda shitty but they work just fine
Hey bro me again can someone who has a few questions pm you somehow. I have a cylinder bolt that just wont stay tight and im at a loss tried every thing I could think of and just a few miles and its loose again wtf.
Had some genius on facebook tell me doing a 1250 and insuring it a 883 was insurance fraud. Lol. My ins knows its there from declared value, cant change the frame vin.
I stage one'ed my 1200 Roadster and have been chopping weight off it to increase the effectiveness of the increased power. 3lbs here, 5lbs there, 20lbs OEM Exhaust and Cast Iron Bracket for a 2-1 thin plate steel bracket. I feel a stage two coming on... maybe next season.
Your engine will be producing more power at any given RPM, an 883 say at 7,000 rpm is making 45 horsepower. You add a 1275 kit with your pipes, air cleaner and tuner you would be making 85 horsepower at 7,000 rpm.
As a First time rider, i have some telling me not to get a iron 883 as it has no abs unless factory order so .. getting a bike with now abs first time rider what do you all say. My friend a motorcop says and i know he dropped his old bike with his kid .. he had no ABS.. he survived but says .. get the ABS....hum.. Thoughts
ABS is very nice to have, but honestly how many people rode for years that are still alive today that didn't have ABS? ABS is hard to find on a Sportster, it was a $795 add on to a new bike and most dealers didn't order them with ABS.
Yippee! Add displacement. You think the Sportster vibrates? What until that 1275 gets to 5000 rpm. The handlebar grips will grow to 3 inches. There is a reason HD limits the 883 to 40 HP. Vibs.
The newer rubber mount bikes really aren't that bad with vibrations, they do have a weird spot I've noticed like 60mph flat for some reason is awful. Above or below that it's pretty smooth, now the older rigid mount bike are a shake down. You get the full Harley experience with a rigid engine mount Sportster lol.
883's and 1200's share the same crank, literally the same part number, and they've done so every model year since 1995. Which means the motors are not balanced differently between an 883 and 1200 despite the piston weight difference. Instead, they balance the crank for a piston weight in between the two. Well, the forged pistons in a 1275 kit are actually about halfway in between the 883 and 1200 piston weight. So the balance actually comes out better.
The LED headlights will plug right in and they work beautifully, now the led bulbs for the turn signals you will have to grind down the shoulder on the bulb itself. The bulbs for the turn signals won't fit in the housings unless you grind the shoulders down.
I recently bought a 99 sportster 883 with a conversion... how do i find out exactly what conversion it was given. Its my first sportster and wasnt given all the details.
To know exactly what conversion you would have have to pull the top end off and measure the cylinder bore, that would tell you if is a 1200, 1250 or 1275 conversion.
Cool that was fast.lol i just posted last night. Need a gasket kit i think o rings are leaking and will have to be tare it apart anyway. Only problem is... its my daily driver.
@@grandpawgoth5999 Damn that makes it tough but luckily they are really easy to work on so it doesn't very long to replace gaskets. It's really easy if it's rocker box cover o-rings.
Yep lower one's, only place you ever see oil is on top of primary at base of jugs mostly front i think. Running out from under the cover between. Not a spot on or around rockers.
@@grandpawgoth5999 Oh crap the base gasket let go? If you gotta go down that far it would be a great time to go ahead and feshen up all those gaskets. How many miles are on your bike?
My bro had Harley 1200 kit put in his 89, by Harley dealership, instantly can't keep a stator. Been "fixed" by 3 other independent Harley mechanics.....still can't keep a stator. It sat for many yrs, my nuther bro took it over and had it "rebuilt" .......still can't keep a stator I know this is something never heard of, never happened before, not possible. I'd like for him to get it fixed cause when he(69) dies it goes to me......... I'm thinking compensator For this reason, I'm big on stock.....well not just this reason.
That's really a curiosity since the bottom ends are the same on both the 883 and 1200. There's got to be something electrical causing the stator to fail. I'm just guessing here but maybe a wire was nicked during install and power is going to ground somewhere.
That's a interesting thought, they offer everything separately but they do have conversion packages. You can do just a cylinder and piston, or add some cams with it. Even just the big bore kit works very very well with the stock cams.
@@GixxerFoo cosmetics mostly handle controls clutch cable lights forward controls front master brakes. My hand controls are out of service. im finnaly up and around and back to work need to get it legal and get back on it only thing i dont need is mirrors lol. It already has big bore and runs too good lol.
I am getting my 883 converted to a 1200 kit. The guy at the dealer specifically said it will be the equivalent to a stage 4 1200. I told them I wanted the most power I could get out of my bike... I am currently (and will continue) running V&H exhaust. My question... After this is done, would having the 1275 kit put on give me even more power? I'm guessing a 1275 kit for a converted 883 would be different? Guess I need to call the company
The 1275 kit will produce more power than the basic 1200 conversion, but with a 883 the heads will hold you back. Now with a set of 1200 heads on a 1275 kit that's a whole new ball game.
I've actually reached out to them regarding their kits you can look them up on TH-cam aswell they have a dyno video of their 1250 kit hitting a peak horse power of 126hp and 98 ft-lbs of tourqe but that the full kit not the basic kit like he showed in this video
If you upgrade the 883 to a 1200 or 1250 or 1275, should you think about changing the transmission gears? I checked the specs for the 2022 883 and 1200 and noticed that the 883 has taller gears. So now I'm thinking to get the most of it, widening the gear span to find a sweet spot might be a good idea. Any thoughts on that?
So, here's just my thoughts on it; honestly, if you're changing that much on a bike - the transmission gears, cylinders, pistons, cams, everything - then its just better to get a touring bike with all the bigger stuff already on it.
@@Dyna_SageI’m upgrading with an over bore to 1200 with head job. It’s not for touring. It’s my around town fun machine. For touring and highway miles I’ve got a big softail.
The weather has been cold and rainy so I thought we'll just move the party to the garage... please leave a comment, like and subscribe! Hope you enjoyed the video!
I live in Australia and bought my 1997 883 Sporty from a friend back in 2009, for a good price and rode it around for a few years until I got it set up how I like as far as suspension etc. I bought the 1275 kit from Hammer Performance, along with a more capable clutch, the oil pump drive gear they make, the CNC machined ignition rotor they produce, and I put in the 2007 upgraded oil pump as well. I used the standard heads and the 2-1 exhaust that came on the bike when I purchased it. I had already had an S&S air cleaner setup installed, which was a massive improvement over the factory one.
I can’t speak highly enough about Hammer Performance! They are outstanding people to deal with!
The difference in the performance of my Sporty is AWESOME! Not only does the upgrade give me more power, I get much better mileage than I had. The guys at HP say this is due to the squish band producing a more efficient burn, which makes sense, but it’s way better than I expected. I now have a bike that is better balanced, so; smoother, but has bags more torque and power throughout the rev range that’s more than enough for what I want.
It cost me just over $1500 (AUD), which means I haven’t spent more on the bike in total than I can reasonably recoup if I ever want to sell it. Which I don’t think will ever be the case.
Hammer Performance is the BEST!
I just had my old solid mount 883 converted to 1200cc by a great local bike shop (A Harley only bike shop) that’s been in business for 35 years. Very happy with the results, huge power and torque gain!
Hell yeah! Congrats that is awesome, a 1200 conversion almost doubles the power over the 883 cylinders. A good independent shop is one of the best places to take a bike!
@@GixxerFoo Thanks, man. Yeah and I just completed the 500 mile break-in, and then opened it up a bit. Far more power than I was actually expecting, tons of torque and it's crazy over 3500rpm. This one has the stock heads, but they did head work, new valves and springs, Andrews N4 cams (I think these are medium grind, labeled as "street/drag" 2000-6000rpm"), carb re-jetted of course, big sucker air filter, and fairly open slip on pipes.
@@trevorjameson3213 what did they charge you for labor
What’d you pay for the conversion after parts and labor?
Yo! How much should I expect to pay for the service?
The Harley dealership is insanely expensive but the one thing I do like about them is they do you know how to fix your bike I can’t speak for everyone else they do get it done very well but 130 an hour on most of things on my bike, I can do myself even without know how a quick TH-cam search and you can do most of the work to your bike yourself, but when it comes to engine and cam work I will absolutely leave that to the dealership or find a good motorcycle shop near me, which I may do all of this next winter time at this place I found called get lowered.
The main reason i bought my 2016 iron was because of the color compared to all the other sportsters . I put 500 break in miles on her , then called hammer and spoke with Arron for an hour on the phone . Placed an order for 1275 big bore kit and bought hammer Preformance air intake as well . While I was waiting for their kit my mechanic had my 883 heads ported here locally in CT. And I also bought a set of Andrews cams. Got everything put together and put 500 miles on it for the break in ,They sent me a map for my power vision From hammer performance.And I absolutely love the bike. Plan on having a Dyno tune done this summer at some point , The bike screams and I love it. Hammer performance big bore kit is best money I spent. End of story.absolutley love my bike !!!!!
I'd say they are best on the market! I bet your Iron is a real sleeper now, people see an Iron and assume it's still an 883 lol. Best part is you still get the 883 price with the insurance company!
I agree 100% Hammer is the best when it comes to everything Sportster ! , Arron and Hammer Dan are great to work with extremely Knowledgeable and willing to help. And honestly my bike is a very mild street build compared to what the guys at hammer build . My iron is probably around 88-90 horsepower. It’s a great all around street bike for me . But lol I already want more !!!! Thank you for the video , keep the sportster stuff coming . I’d like to know more adout your bike . I’ll subscribe now
Do you mind if ask what your total bill was, all in?
@@GixxerFoo right but if you ever got an accident and the insurrance calls an expert , he will see the modification and your insurrance Can refuse to paid..
I ride an 883 and live in CT also!
I have a 2005 883XLC that i bought two years ago and put 10 thousand miles on. Getting it converted to 1200 this winter. Looking forward to spring 2023.
How is the bike now? :)
@HardRockFairytale wow I wrote that awhile ago. Bikes great. Rips, handles, no issues. Tons of fun.
@@topherdalrymple6535 sounds great 👍
I have done the Hammer 1275 but went all out with cams and porting on heads. It will turn your sporty into a monster! I am right at the 120HP mark and you do loose some down low drivability but people are amazed at how hard it pulls away. I have blown some of the big twins away light to light. Need to build my RK up next and wake that 103 up. Depending on how hard you are on the bike after the Hammer kit goes in belt life is decreased a lot but I still prefer it over the chain for ease of maintence.
Hammer is where it's at and l am jealous of your numbers! Damn all out and over 120 on a Sportster! Might just still eat that RK... what year is your Sportster?
@@GixxerFoo Definitely look into doing that upgrade on your bike you will love it!
@@GixxerFoo My 2005 is a absolute blast just remember to price out all the other components that will make and hold all the new power, If you plan to keep the bike the expense is worth it.
I've installed several for friends and they love them, tuning is key! I would love to do one on mine too, lol my wife takes all my money 😆😂🤦♂️.
That's just it! Your not doing this to resell, it's a deal to keep and enjoy!
I put the hammer performance 1275 kit in my bobber, bigger cams, roller rockers, adjustable push rods, bee hive valve springs, bigger valves, rejected the carb, and built my own custom exhaust, my bike absolutely rips
I bet it's an absolute handful now! What cams did you go with?
@@GixxerFoo andrews v6 cams
@@BerserkerNick Damn those are some pretty aggressive cams aren't they?
@@GixxerFooit's like riding a grenade laucher
@@BerserkerNick Lmao, so you better be ready when it comes on. I bet you surprise a lot of people with it too.
2016 48 here with 1275 kit, 560 cams, stock 1200 heads, powervision, exhaust and intake....rips harder than my fxdls (110ci) with a pipe and heavy breather...a lot harder...but you really have to wring its friggen neck, but thats the fun part. +1 for hammer I worked with Dan on my setup and base tune, really top notch guys and extremely awesome service.
That's awesome! They say the stock late model heads are pretty damn good as is. I'm planning on the same setup except with 570 cams. What compression ratio did you end up going with?
I just got my 1275 kit , 570 cams, smash head work to 883 heads, 10 to 1 30 degree reverse some pistons and all the supporting components from hammer delivered to my door for just under $3000 with the xlforum member discount. Aaron told me, depending on the exhaust, this kit would easily break 90 hp. And like you mentioned without even winding it up too crazy. I’m expecting close to 100 hp.
That's a sweet setup! I love those 570 cams, those things have an awesome power curve.
Seriously? $3000 for less than 100hp.
Why not just buy a fast bike in the first place?
@@Partyatmosphere It's true that there are many fast and cheap bikes, and it's not hard to find one with high power and high rpm, but you can't find one that is more handsome than Harley, highly customizable, and can satisfy over 100 horsepower with extremely low rpm.
The hammer kit Harley can even easily achieve 10 seconds from 0-400. Considering the fact that it can have high power and low rpm with such a handsome posture, the answer is, only Harley.
I have a 2015 forty eight and I put the S&S 1250 big bore kit with cams. Then I put screaming eagle stage 4 heads on with cobra pipes. New S&S adjustable push rods and I did have it dyno tuned. 107hp and I did all the work my self but the tune
That's frickin awesome!! Doing it yourself is the best way so you know it's done right! I bet that bike absolutely rips, S&S makes some super quality products.
@@GixxerFoo Yes its almost to much and with the 2.2 gal tank I only get about 70 miles on a full tank when I drive normal. I have been a small engines technition for a long time and this bike was the first fuel injection bike I have owned and worked on so I learned a lot about it.
@@adamak47miller90 My wife has 48 and it's stock other than a tune, exhaust and air cleaner. It get's about 70 miles to a tank too, that's pretty awesome for your bike to get that with all the mods. Fuel injection isn't that bad to work on, what tuner did you go with?
I love how you have aft on in the background. If you ain't sliding you ain't riding
👍 l love some AFT, hoping to get to go back to OKC this year or at the very least see some racing on Fanschoice.tv.
I think another option, that is worthy of discussion, is using a buell xb12 engine, you can get them reasonably cheap, about 1k for a good motor, tear it down, you have the jugs, the pistons, the heads, the cams, the lifters, you get the crank and rods ( the buell bottom end is significantly stronger than the sportster engines bottom end) ,, you do have to get the original sportster case machined to accept the buell bottom end, ( its reasonable, lots of shops are familiar with the conversion) , I think you also have to use some of the primary pieces from the buell engine as well,, but for the total cost, if your handy with a wrench, and have worked on these engines, it's easy to do I think. For well under the price of some of these kits, you can build a 100hp, 85ft lb engine, that revs happily to 7k, without destroying the bottom end. With some more money, if it's in your budget, for about 700 bucks, you can get the 110hp big bore kit for the buell, use it on your sportster build, and you can have a 110hp monster, and for close to the same cost as some of these kits are that include the heads and everything. On a side note, even staying with the sportster spacific kits, the bottom ends will never be as capable, as the buell bottom end. I forgot to mention also, that with the buell engine, you also get the upgraded, and stronger oil pump, and the drive gear ( the buell one is an excellent piece, many write ups on doing a sporty to buell oil pump conversion) ,, for the price for a cheap buell engine, you get tons of upgrades, that would cost you so much, if you just sourced the parts individually. Just a thought, but this is the other ( and in my opinion, the better option) for building a reliable, sleeper sporty. Great video as always/ fist bump
Thank you! Yeah Buell engines are awesome! They have a few differences like cam numbering to be aware of but they do have much higher quality parts. It doesn't take much to get those motors into a Sportster frame. Although l wouldn't tear a salvage Buell apart if it had a good chassis. I'd love to get a Buell XB12R Firebolt... l regret not picking one up years ago now.
@@GixxerFoo man they are super fun and you could find one pretty easy nowadays. I’ve got an xb12r and an 1125cr. Looking at getting an xb12scg rn.
Just subbed bro, i like your laid back style. I have the 1275 kit went with the bathtub heads an used the fueling 505/515 reaper cams, also used a Dynatek DSPT cdi box. My sporty is vicious! First, second an third it will carry the front wheel on a hard shift! I love when guys say nice girls bike, lol! A drunk guy at York pa. Bike night last year. Said that i had a girls bike. Till he got smoked by it! Some fat dude on a softail! Lol anyway ride on bro. I be watchin'🤙
Damn you built a monster!! What year is your bike? Did you do any head work with those cams?
@@GixxerFoo this phone keeps putting me down as my wife, but yeah my bike is 2005 carbureted. I went with a 46mm mikuni smooth bore. Its a 10.5-1 set up, i went an smoothed up the heads didnt really hog them out. But the 515 reaper cams cam be ran with the stock valve train. I get a little money saved im going with hammer performance 600 race cams. Need shorter valves for this though. It should make a little over 130hp without the spray. Im installing a sneaky pete's nitrous kit 100hp wet shot! I dont like a motorcycle if it dont scare me a little! Lol
@@missyfochtman4203 That's how l like my bikes! Damn you're gonna go with 600 lift cams?? Those are pretty extreme, is this your street ride?! Holy crap, yeah no doubt you're gonna be up there in the horsepower. I'd rather have a built Sportster than any other Harley, l do everything with my bike. City, touring, you name it.
You might have mentioned this in another vid, I don't know, but if you're upgrading for power make sure you upgrade suspension and BRAKES! Maybe stick on a fork brace and steering damper aswell,if you're going round twisty roads. The OE parts just aren't up to those kind of horses.
I actually didn't mention that! Great thinking though! The older models brakes and suspension were not up to the task at all. 2016 and newer with the updated suspension and brakes are awesome, well compared to earlier years but there's always room for improvement. The 2011 and up Custom is hard to find a fork brace for with the wide front end, I have looked everywhere and they fit everything but that model.
@@GixxerFoowhat would a good brake upgrade be for a 2003 Sportster? All New H-D parts or the Japanese parts that seem to be pretty popular?
My 09 XL had all the bells n whistles when i bought it. Insanely fast bike. I absolutely love it. Very reliable bike.
What model Sportster did you get?
@@GixxerFoo 2009 883 sportster XL. EFI, camshaft, open drag pipes ( when i first got it) now some mild baffles, reprogrammed ECU and im sure at a minimum 1200 kit. I've already hurt a Trackhawk owner's and a Hellcats owner's feelings with just a half throttle pull. It had 12k miles when i got it 2yrs ago it at 18k miles now. I just maintain it like it supposed to be maintained.
That's awesome they will last forever that way when you take care of them like that.
@@GixxerFoo I've been a mechanic since 1984. She only gets the best.
@@jodycornelius8258 That's what l like to hear! I'm huge on maintenance!
Considering how cheap second hand sportsters go for, this seems like a cheap way of building a monster
That was my thought exactly, plus the 883 goes super cheap used and you don't have to tell the insurance company lol.
@@GixxerFoo And if it's the long tank with a different air cleaner, no one would even know it a sportster. Let alone a giant slayer
@@simonkennedy6116 I've seen some Sportster builds where I had to do a double take. I've seen a few that almost easily pass for a Street Glide.
Where I live, you do not see Sportsters for sale and when you do, they are expensive and just trashed.
Exactly what I am thinking about doing, finding a used sportster 883....at a decent price. ..then putting the big bore kit on along with more customizing.
Good information and definitely agree a must is a shop manual. As far as an independent service I visited several and until I found one that felt like they cared and knew what they were doing.
Harley has an awesome shop manual, I was really impressed with the detail it provides when I bought mine.
This made my mind up. Thanks for posting it. I will be picking up a late 2010+ 883 and give it some big bore love.
You can make a 883 a monster, just remember to get the heads worked over for the on an 883. Even without the heads done you can still get up there in the power range!
@@GixxerFoo IIRC...the gearing in the 883 transmission is a little lower than the 1200 tranny also!!
The Harley Sportster 883 and 1200 have the same transmission gears, but the 1200 has a different number of teeth on the transmission pulley. The 883 has a lower gear ratio than the 1200, which means it accelerates faster but has more difficulty at high speeds.
Nice video! Hammer is having a sale soon. Really thinking about adding the 1275 kit to my Iron 883 build.
Ahhhh l saw that too, l am wanting to go for the torque with the 1275 and the 570 cams. Those guys can hook you up with a package to do about anything you want.
What’s their website?
Little over a week ago I have purchased the 100+ horsepower 1275cc kit for my 2018 Iron 883. Sent the heads out 5 days ago. Looking forward to bolting it up and getting the break in period started. Too bad I live in Wisconsin lol. Will update once I get it done and the winter wraps up.
Let me know what you think of it! That's gonna rip when it's all put together, now's the time to get it all done so you can enjoy it in the spring!
Ive got a good bit of the Iron 1275 break-in process done. The lope from the cams is awesome. Havent even gone half throttle yet, have to keep it under 4K RPM still. She rips with minimal throttle, and I haven't even auto tuned yet
That break in process is excruciating to get through but it is critical to do right. I love Hammer's cams, they aren't as loud as a lot of Sportster cams with their ramp angle they designed. Did you go with their 560 cam?
@@GixxerFoo Yes sir. They sent the XL 560 cams. Once I'm able to open her up, I'll get the full feeling of the Hammer 560 cams
@@My45ToYourThroat Nice! With the setup you have those cams won't lose any bottom end, but you'll know when they come on real quick!
As a reference point my new stock '99 BuellX1 Lightning 1200 dynoed at 94hp torque 74. After Buell racing exhaust and power comander 101hp.
Damn that's a pretty good gain with exhaust and a tune very solid.
The engines in the buells were not your run of the mill sportster engine. Buell did a lot to them. The later xb12s, xb12r, and xb12t has a 1203cc version that produced 103hp stock. I would love to get my hands on one of those.
Nice it reminds me of my younger years. It's great fun and I have been through the lot. 1200 conversion, cam's, Edelbrok heads a number of different carburettors and so on. All great fun but you are not getting back the money when you eventually sell up.
Couldn't agree more! You can't go into it expecting to get your money back, I usually keep bikes I build and just get something else later on. Unless someone just happens to make an offer I can't refuse then I might be inclined to let it go.
I will go with the Hammer kit!
It's hard to beat! I've looked at some others that are floating around out there like from NRHS and Revolution. They just aren't as good in my opinion and they don't have the options Hammer has. More expensive too from some companies for only a 1250 kit.
I have a buell xb12ss lightning 106hp its a 1203 thunderstorm with xbrr oil pump and extra big crank pin standard and big brakes .
Maybe some buell parts are the answer ?
Or a just a Buell xb12ss? 🤔
Buell heads are better and the cams are hotter. I have a xb12s that I'm gonna do either the 1250 or 1275 on
@@shep236 At one time, the Buell heads were better, sure. But in 2004, all XL1200's models got what's essentially the Buell XB heads. Same ports, same valves, same spring pack, same chambers. The only differences are cosmetic. These are the best production heads ever made for the Evolution XL platform. The XL1200 continues to ship with these heads to the present day, with only some minor changes in 2007 when the switch to EFI happened.
I have a Buell X1 lightning 2000.
An I have an 883 low..
What a waste of money these kits are. Such miniscule gains for so many hard earned dollars.
I had this done to my 2003 sportster by modesto harley. Had nothing but problems after. Sold the bike a year later and never looked back.
What brand of kit did you use? I know Hammer stresses really hard to do it yourself and install it to the letter by their instructions, especially how it's broke in.
Leave the bottom end exactly the same and go at least to 1250 ci. You’ll thank me later... almost double the hp and definitely double the torque
Andrews kit came with everything I needed. I opted for Cometic gaskets ($500.00 for top end and bottom end together)
I also left my top end the same, but plan to shave about 40thousandths and better cams
You can't beat Cometic gaskets, the factory Harley gaskets sometimes fail with increased compression. Sounds like you have quite a build going.
so ya changed your cams out?
Still breaking in my wife's 1996 883 conv. Did the 1275 kit with 30* rev.dome pistons . They did the heads. Let me tell you the heads are where the magic happens . Especially if your doing a hotter cam. The energy one clutch is plenty good they use Alto clutch fibers .can't wait to get it above 3000 rpm
I am jealous to say the least, the break in period is the absolute worst. You spend all that time building it and you have to baby it for what seems like forever!
@@GixxerFoo torque is crazy now, I got there black Friday deal with everything included .I mean everything all the way to new spark plugs was less than Harley offers for the 1200 kit .
@@shawn9878 Holy crap!! I totally missed out on that! I didn't even think to check for a Black Friday sale with them, you got one hell of a deal! I priced out what you did with the heads done as well and it was like over 2K. Hopefully they do it again this year! I want to make some big torque with mine.
@@GixxerFoo best bang for the buck it's getting your 883 heads matched to the 30* pistons Arron is a stand-up dude . If you do the 1275 kit do the heads for the revs some pistons not the flat tops do it ones and be done ...kinda like ripping a bandaid off lol
@@shawn9878 I really like Arron, he's pretty awesome and straight forward. I have the late model 1200 heads so I've been back and forth between having them rework them or just stick with the flat tops. The more I think about it and what you've said I think the reverse domes may be worth it honestly.
I went with a hammer 1250 kit, ported my heads, upgraded my clutch, k&n ram air and a thunder header. I have some thunderstorm heads and a 42 mm flatslide carb i want to put on next. That's my sporty trike in my avi.
I can honestly say I have never seen a hot sporty trike, what's like riding a trike with kind of power?
@@GixxerFoo It will move! Obviously doesnt handle like a bike anymore so you have to watch the turns but it's a lot of fun! I'm a paraplegic so I adapted it so I could ride it again. All my brakes work off the lever, it has raked trees, air ride on the rear and a pingel electric shifter! I can pin the throttle back and slam through the gears without letting off the throttle! Its awesome! My son and I did all the work.
@@masterofnonetv8361 That just makes that bike even more special! That's awesome that you're riding and having a good time out there, especially on a hopped up trike. It's really tricked out, I can't believe you even have air ride on it!
@@GixxerFoo yeah I had to lower the rear some to make it easier to get on and off but I didnt want to make it a rough ride by putting like some burley slammers on it so I bought a kit off ebay. The compressor and all the wiring if under the rear fender so you cant see it. People really get a kick out of seeing me ride it with a wheelchair hanging off the back of it. They always chat me up at stop lights and then I leave them in the dust!😂
@@masterofnonetv8361 That is awesome, much respect to you for everything you've done to continue to ride. The Burly slammers give the bike a slick look but my gosh they ride awfully rough.
Shane again, i seen that number plate in the background with 58 on it! I used to race quads back in the early 2000's that was my number.
That's awesome! What kind of quad racing did you do? I used to race flat track.
@@GixxerFoo flattrack tt
I really like how the 2004-2008 883s look and how they ride. They are ok but do need more power. I was thinking the big bore kit plus a very hot cam to boot.
They made some good looking 883 models in from 04 to 08, converting to a 1275 will double the power on an 883.
@@GixxerFoo That's the goal in mind. Then it will be a super blast to ride out here. Plus it will have the punch needed when you need it most.
@@craigpennington1251 oh you will love it! Plus the insurance company still has the 883 vin number lol.
You're welcome
@@GixxerFoo That is a plus for the good side of things. Insurance is high on most but some other things, pretty low really. It all depends on who you go with.
Awesome information, as The other popular kit is the S&S Kit.
S&S makes a solid kit and it produces good power, l wish they had the highlighted cylinders as an option.
I notice that in the description there is a link to a video about maybe choosing a big twin instead of a Sporty.... I have both an '06 XL1200R that is now 'Hammered' out to 1250, and a '10 model Streetbob that is now 113" with reworked CVO top end that makes 130+bhp and 120+ torque. The Sporty is easier around town and for rides of ,maybe, under 150 miles - it also handle twisties much better due to the overall smaller size of the bike. I am 5'9" and a bit over-weight and find that if I am going further, such as hundreds or thousands of miles that the Dyna is the bike as it is more comfortable and handles speed better especially when loaded with camping gear etc.
One trick all Sporty owners should look into is the bike's gearing.... especially if it is/was an 883. The primary gearing is so low as to make the engine revs very high at freeway speeds - and more vibes along with it. If you get a Hammer Performance 1250 or 1275 kit then the vibes lessen as the pistons leave the engine more balanced than the H-D stuff - look on Hammer's site and they explain it very well.
Back to gearing - look on 883sportster.com I think it is and you can find bigger trans pulleys that sort the gearing out - I use a 32 tooth pulley on my 1200/1250 conversion and it leaves the bike cruising at over 90mph @ 4k rpm. It is not worth putting bigger cams in an 883 or twelve hundred (especially and 883/1200 conversion) without getting the heads ported as they don't flow enough for even the standard 883 or 1200's cams respectively.
If you want power, go for the big twin but remember to replace the engine mounts as standard ones are rubbish - go to Big Bear Performance or Chopper Hauss ones though as all the others are just 'a Band Aid on an open wound' so to speak. For sheer performance the big twin is better, for fun it is the Sporty.
As always folks, 'if you have to ask the prices Sir, then you cannot afford it' applies to most things ......
Very well put, Hammer has done some serious engineering in their products. I would hazard to guess they might know that Evo Sportster better than Harley.
Really helpful. But I'm starting to want to get something with longer range. 100 miles to a tank isn't great for long distances.
What size tank do you have? My wife's 48 can eeeek out 80 miles with the 2.5 gallon peanut. My custom has the 4.5 gallon and l can get over 150 miles out of it.
Not worth it putting a bigger tank on there?
@@joealvarez5171 My wife loves the look of the peanut tank, but you can pick up a tank fairly inexpensively if you shop around.
Put a walnut tank on your sporty, them peanut tanks are bar hopper tanks man
@@missyfochtman4203 My wife loves the look of the peanut tank, so l get to carry an extra gallon of fuel for the long distance trips. Learned the hard way gas stations aren't always evenly spaced lol.
thank you so much, this is question that i had for a lifetime! i thought i can only convert my 883 to 1200 and 1200 only to stage 4 that is unfair, thank you so much
You're welcome, honestly the 1275 or 1250 is what the stage 4 should be. The 883 is same bottom end, cases and transmission. 883 just has smaller displacement cylinders, pistons and different cylinder heads.
So what about the S&S 1200 kit vs the HD 1200 kit?
I have a 883 with a 1275 kit in it.
Also I have a new clutch in it and drag pipes and I changed the sprockets for top end on hwy.
I roll at 135mph on the highway and still have some torque.
I'm putting the turbo kit on it next and that'll be a extra 60 to 80 hp.
It will wear out those big bikes. I've owned all kinds and those 883 Sportsters are bad to the bone to build.
Get a 1200s low, like the video, been looking on what way to upgrade it,thanks 🤙
You'll definetely enjoy the power that comes with it, be like a new bike!
My newly acquired 883 is going to get a conversion to 1200 by boring it out. I want the totally stock from outside look. Nothing to give away it’s putting down way more power. Lol. Not that it needs more power.
The Harley screaming eagle kit doesn’t make as much gains because it doesn’t include cams… so do cams as well and get more power. S&S hooligan is a great pick as well
Good video. Oh...and nice Sporty by the way. Very tastefully done. Love that color scheme.
Thank you! I appreciate the support and thank you for watching the channel!
Everything sounded good until the case of beer came up, How come we left out the push rods and cross threaded the spark plugs?
Can I get a good kit for my 96 1200? What would you suggest? Thanks very much for any advice. You talked me into the gear drive cam for my 01 FXDX last year and I love it
That's awesome! On a 96 model you'll need to get some head work, the heads from 91 to 03 just weren't the best performance. For the street a 1275 kit and some head work will go long way, you could even add some of Hammer's 570 cams. 1275, head work and the 570 cam with a good exhaust is a great street setup.
What about the millennium 80 cubic inch kit 109 horsepower '99 foot pounds of torque plus Buell thunderstorm heads millennium is in Plymouth Wisconsin
That's really interesting! I haven't head of that manufacturer before, I'll have to check them out!
I did the hammer 1250, just amazing difference in power, you need to upgrade clutch or she’s gonna slip
Clutch upgrade is highly recommended, even with the 1200. It's pretty much mandatory on the 883 since I believe they use one less clutch plate or two.
What if you had bigger valves, ported and polished your heads how much more HP would u gain with the 1275 kit
Like your video and thanks I just have a problem with Hammer Prefomance. Followed instructions and wound up with scored cylinder. They said it was my fault because I didn't retard the timing like their web suggestions said. No wear did it talk about changing the stock timing in the paperwork that was sent to me with Prefomance piston kit. They had their money and could care less for the home installer. Wish I still had them I would show you photos. I've be a mechanic for many years and had no thought to change stock timing by 7 degrees after installing larger pistons.
I’m an ex MC guy. 1%er.. I’m pretty short too. I love sportsters! You can do anything to them to me their kinda like a VW bug. I used to fly and was able to keep up no problem. Like I said, I am a short kat. I make them into choppers now for people and their affordable as well. Right now I’ve been just doing custom leather seats I ended up getting hurt. Just found your channel! 👍🏽 hey if you or someone you know is interested in a leather seat give me a shout. I sell them probably for half the price of others. I like to make things so anyone can look good. I’m working on a wall of them to put in an art museum type place. It’s leatherwork so it can go in there but be sold as art. I have to give those people 50% that’s also why I don’t charge much. Depends on weather you have the base (hard plastic/metal) seat or need me to get one..
Hi just an advise I hope you can help with your exporters I have 2016 CVO 110 deluxe I more power out of it with reasonable price
I think you didn't mention the remapping part. the fuel pack 3 and the screaming eagle and the other computers are also expensive. I'm looking a way to do it without buying those computers.
I would highly suggest going with a power vision for about $450, that way they can send you a tune file and all you have to do is flash it.
Thank you for this! I didnt know this type of kit existed, especially for so inexpensive!
Glad it was helpful! It's surprising at how inexpensive it for the gain you get from it too!
@@GixxerFoo oh yeah! And I was actually really impressed with their site! I mean the UI isnt the best I've ever seen, but it is so comprehensive and they cover just about all the questions one might have. I'll definitely be ordering from them when I get back to Vegas! For the lowest level kit, you dang near double the hp and tq for well under a grand. Crazy!
It's nuts! Lol yeah UI is a little lacking but they do that in house too. Lol not not bad for some machinists and engine builders.
Probably have to do a belt to chain conversion with all the extra power and torque? Thanks man!
You can still run a belt if you want, Buells were 105 horse and still had the belt. Now if you're drag racing or something a chain conversion is a good idea.
@@GixxerFoo cool, thanks man!
@@GixxerFoo 105hp to the crank, take about 16% off for rwhp
Would this affect the reliability? I'm wanting to put the hammer kit in my 05 883, but dont want to sacrifice reliability
No issues with reliability, Hammer makes a solid kit and just a bolt on 1275 kit with cams isn't even gonna be close pushing the boundries of a stock Sportster bottom end.
Im shifting at 2800 rpm
On my 1200 (48). Am I messing up ????
My 2015 883, has sat for a year after I slid it and cracked the primary cover. I got all the parts to fix everything and an oil change kit. Is there anything else I should do to the bike before running it? Or to get it running back right?
Did you leave any fuel in the bike? If you did, I would drain the tank and go back with fresh fuel with some fuel system cleaner. Fuel system cleaner will help with the injectors if they are a bit sticky, Lucas would be a good one to use, I usually put about a half ounce in on my wife's 2.1 gallon tank.
If i am converting my 2022 883 to the 1275 would you recommend new heads and/or new cams? Or would the conversion kitwith new clutch spring be enough? Also should i be getting it tuned after doing all this? Would this actually even still work on 2022 model? :/
You will for sure need a tune, get the Power Vision from Hammer and it will come preloaded with the tune. The vanilla conversion with reusing the 883 won't be too bad but if you can pop for head work go ahead and do it. You won't regret it cause the 883 are different than 1200 heads and the heads will hold it back a bit. But specify this when you order the kit, Hammer kits using the stock 883 have different pistons than what you get if you do head work.
Once installed how does one go about tuning it? Does it need to go to a dyno or is there a tuner you can put on and just download a preset map for it? Thanks.
Going through Hammer you would want to purchase a DynoJet Power Vison flash tuner. Hammer will send you a tune file or it will be preloaded on the unit if you buy it from them. This is a good base file which will work well with the bike and you can run auto tune sessions once it is broke in. This works and won't hurt the bike, it will run great like this but a full dyno tune is the absolute best to get the most out of the setup you chose.
@@GixxerFoo absolute legend! Thanks for your response, buying from Australia so I want to be 100% sure before the build. Cheers mate.
I wonder how my little 883 can handle all that extra power and torque on its stock suspension and frame? Seems like the suspension, maybe even the forks might need some attention after doubling the power?
They do really well being upgraded with big bore kits. Engine handling it isn't a problem at all. The chassis does fine as well, assuming your forks are serviced and brakes are good.
@@GixxerFoo Awesome! Thank you! I have this 2o2o 883, it’s my first bike, and I have been wondering about upgrading to a soft tail in the near future for the extra power on the highway but I just love my sporty and don’t really want to see it go. I can’t afford two bikes but maybe if my 883 will do fine with a big bore kit sometime in the next couple of years I can just keep it and save some bucks on payments and insurance? Kinda the best of both worlds.
Ex as carly cause you're bike no matter the CC will always identify as an 883 by the vin 😄👍. That saves a lot of money on insurance. A big bore Sportster 1250/1275 is a blast to ride.
just check your fork gaskets the suspension should be fine as long as your not leaking hydraulic fluid
I want to do the 1275 with the heads
I'm finishing up a hammer 1275 kit this week
👍 that's awesome, what all did you go with doing your 1275?
@@GixxerFoo just the basic 1275 kit
Converting an 883 or a 1200?
@@GixxerFoo 883 to 1275 the 883 head make more compression than the 1200 heads
That's gonna be quite the jump in power. Do you have those trick reverse dome pistons?
I have a 1200 I want to take it to a 1340 like the bigger evos and different cams and adjustable pushrods and pushrod tubs do 4 plug 1200 heads
Holy crap that's pretty ambitious, Hammer does make a 88ci and 90ci setup. Well they get the cylinders from Axtell, you'll have to bore the cases though to make it work.
For the 1200 taking it to 1340 is stage 4
The 1275/1250 kits from hammer are also $300+ more...BUT after paying harley for labor, it's probably less expensive after all
Their kits a lot cheaper than the Screamin Eagle Stage IV, for what Harley wants for their kit Hammer will get you over 100hp.
It's not really $300 more, because there's more in the HAMMER package. For example, you get a full Dynojet Powervision tuner, you get a full extra plate clutch kit, etc. So it's not apples to apples.
Can you help me out i upgraded my iron into 1275 hammer kit
With screeming eagle breather
Dinojet tune
Cobra exhaust
Fob security system
BUT THE ISSUE IS BATTERY
IT NEW BATTERY FROM HARLEY BUT BIKE UNABLE TO SELF UP LIKE IRON QUICKLY
CAN YOU HELP ME OUT SHOULD I UPGRADED THE BATTERY
How about the temperature ? Will it run hotter ?
They really don't run hot surprisingly, you get them properly tuned and getting enough fuel they do very well.
So hey I like the 1275 kit idea... but what about my stock parts that I will be running it from? ( like mentioned in the video the cams etc) will that 1275 kit be well maintained or in other words will it break my 883 later down the road
The stock bottom end on a Sportster is pretty stout, the only thing you want to upgrade in the process in the oil pump gear drive to a bronze gear drive. Buell had issues with the steel gear getting sharp and coming apart with the increased power. But it really all depends how your ride, Hammer says they are just as if not more reliable than stock.
You need a very large cam to take advantage of those heads.
I have a front primary pulley that I have sitting in my garage that's one tooth down for my 1200. I'm trying to figure out how to get the stupid thing off. It didn't budge with a 5 foot breaker bar, I guess I have to borrow someones 50 gallon air compressor and 1/5" impact.
Holy crap the nut won't budge?? I haven't messed with the pulley yet but it might be reverse threaded.
They are reverse threaded
@@douglasshaw1946 Oh yeah, I know that.
Heat it, that'll loosen the lock tite, not too much though
@@terrysee2021 Thanks, for some reason I didn't think of that. I'll try that, just gotta find my torch.
Hi I've got the 1250 hammer kit on my 883, just wondering what head gasket will fit now.
The same gaskets for whichever head you have will still fit, 883 stock, ported or 1200 heads. There's not a special gasket for a big bore kit, that's the cool part about these kits.
Hey Gixxer, great stuff thanks. I just bought a 2005 sporty 883 C but I find the seat is waay uncomfortable, I keep pushing myself back up and on top of the passenger seat... Am I alone in this? I am just under 6' and about 100kg. Tx bro
You're not alone, I have several aftermarket seats for my bikes and after long stretches I do the same thing myself.
Love Sportsters, I had to let it go though for a smoother ride. My Roadking ain't as fun though.
Road King has gotta be like riding on a cloud compared to the Sportster. The new suspension on them is much improved but l'd like to try some aftermarket suspension.
@@GixxerFoo yep, I agree. The slammed look is cool but a set of ohlins would be very good.
@@rider14mcd63 Ohlins shocks make them ride like a dream!
@@GixxerFoo Revo fit even older 2005 and earlier, well worth it!
Is the 1200 in a bigger frame?
I love HP 1275 kit + 570 cam.
Cool you had dirt track racing on your TV
I love some AFT racing!! Can't wait to get this season started finally!
I do a little Motorcycle speedway racing over here in Auburn California. Our track is still shut down because of the COVID shit
Speedway is awesome, l always wanted to try it but we don't have any suitable tracks for it.
What about the transmission do they make a 6 speed?
Baker actually makes a 6 speed, but it's only for the 03 and earlier models that had the trap door. I'm curious to see if a guy couldn't split the cases and change the gear set out on 04 and newer. I'll drop Baker a email and see if there's anything about their transmission that would prevent that from being done.
Is 883 connecting rod can hold that so much power? Or it has to be change?
The 883 bottom end is the same as the 1200, so you wouldn't have to change connecting rods. Just replace the top end with the big bore kit.
lowbrow does a great 3 part vid on installing a kit
1200 cc is a Market sell,,,,,,883 cc started in '57,,and is still here,,,,it is a perfect bore and stroke, perfect motor, that's why its still here.
It's a rock solid motor and design, the extra power of the 1200 is really nice though!
Searched site
Saw an option for a 120+hp
They can do it, they've had a bike pull over 130hp with one of their kits.
GixxerFoo my only question at this point is which kit is most worth it - just the 1275 basic or should I start saving for the big kits. I’m trying to make my sportster more highway capable.
Honestly a 1275 and a set of their cams with a good exhaust system and air cleaner is plenty for a street bike. What year is your bike, is it a 1200 or an 883?
GixxerFoo it’s a 1999 883. Thanks for the reply btw really helpful!
Being a 99, if your not going to have the heads ported l would go with a basic 1275 conversion. It's cheaper to do it all at once unless you don't mind taking it down several times. If you do port the heads l'd do a 1275 and change the cams. I personally like the 570 hammer cam at 10:1 compression. I like the the torque and power low to mid. The 560 cam at 10.5:1 is more power but it's mid to high rpm range.
What sort of torque figure are you looking at??
Depends how far you take your bike and what cams you use. If you are running the stock cams and head with a 1275 kit at stock compression you'll be looking at torque in the mid 80's, that's up from the 70ish stock.
What happens after you convert it I heard you have to change the computer also for fuel injection is that true?
It will have to be retuned, if you get the 1275 from Hammer and a Power Vision tuner they will send you a map or preload the map on the Power Vision if you buy the PV from them. Tuning is really easy and simple to flash the ECM, it's all step by step with on screen prompts.
@@GixxerFoo nice thank you for your response I’m thinking of converting mine I was going to go with S&S 1200 but came across your video and the hammer performance would I have to change my Injectors? Also when you did yours did you do the gears also the s&s has a full kit that comes with gears I was wondering if doing the gears would be a great idea as well thank you for your time and responding.
Would you recommend the Hammer 1274 basic conversion kit over H-D's 1200 conversion kit?
Hands down any day, l would go with the Hammer kit converting an 883. Even if you keep the 883 heads go with Hammer. It would cost a bit more but it would be well worth it to have Hammer port the 883 heads. Even on a 1200 a conversion kit to a 1275 would be worth it.
@@GixxerFoo cool thanks! I just have to figure out which Hammer way to go!
No problem, just depends on how much you want to spend lol. They can put together packages up over 120 horsepower.
@@GixxerFoo ya, I spoke with Aaron about it... at this point with my situation, I think I'm going basic 1275 so I can keep it on the road at the right price! If i really need more power after that, there is a little bit a room for cams. :)
Doesn't S&S have a 1250 kit ? Anybody know what horse power or cost that is ?
S&S has a 1250 kit with cams, the hooligan kit. They advertise it at about 85 horsepower, but I would highly recommend Hammers 1275. It's cheaper all said and done, excellent quality and more bang for your buck.
Does this work with carb model,say bout 1998
Absolutely they have kits that fit your year!
hello folks i would love to convert a sportster to the 1250 0r 1275 engine. my concern is will the brakes be able to control that much engine power?
yea ofcouse basic spring loaded hydraulic brake same breaks as a shovelhead or dyna with a 1375 motor you can upgrade your stock brakes if ya feel better the oem rear brakes are kinda shitty but they work just fine
Hey bro me again can someone who has a few questions pm you somehow. I have a cylinder bolt that just wont stay tight and im at a loss tried every thing I could think of and just a few miles and its loose again wtf.
Shoot me a message on Instagram, are you talking about your head bolts that hold the cylinder down on the studs or your mounting bolts on the head?
@@GixxerFoo I'll send a pic
Ok so i tried Instagram???
Did this to my 883 and I can keep up or do better than the big boys!
This would be awesome on an 883, no one expects it and the insurance company still has the 883 vin number!
Had some genius on facebook tell me doing a 1250 and insuring it a 883 was insurance fraud. Lol. My ins knows its there from declared value, cant change the frame vin.
Yeah it's still an 883 as far insurance is concerned since they go by the vin. Now if you have a turbo you might disclose that 🤷♂️😆
I stage one'ed my 1200 Roadster and have been chopping weight off it to increase the effectiveness of the increased power. 3lbs here, 5lbs there, 20lbs OEM Exhaust and Cast Iron Bracket for a 2-1 thin plate steel bracket. I feel a stage two coming on... maybe next season.
Nice set of cams will make a whole new bike, especially with either Andrew's or Hammer.
Whats up bro i got a 84 1000 cc would this head woork for my bike
Not on the iron head, Hammer only has some products for the Evo.
Will doing this make your engine run down three times as fast?
Your engine will be producing more power at any given RPM, an 883 say at 7,000 rpm is making 45 horsepower. You add a 1275 kit with your pipes, air cleaner and tuner you would be making 85 horsepower at 7,000 rpm.
As a First time rider, i have some telling me not to get a iron 883 as it has no abs unless factory order so .. getting a bike with now abs first time rider what do you all say. My friend a motorcop says and i know he dropped his old bike with his kid .. he had no ABS.. he survived but says .. get the ABS....hum.. Thoughts
ABS is very nice to have, but honestly how many people rode for years that are still alive today that didn't have ABS? ABS is hard to find on a Sportster, it was a $795 add on to a new bike and most dealers didn't order them with ABS.
My first bike is a drz400sm and it nas no abs and i havent really felt like i needed it
I want to build a super moto bad... l could have some serious fun in one of those!
Yippee! Add displacement. You think the Sportster vibrates? What until that 1275 gets to 5000 rpm. The handlebar grips will grow to 3 inches. There is a reason HD limits the 883 to 40 HP. Vibs.
The newer rubber mount bikes really aren't that bad with vibrations, they do have a weird spot I've noticed like 60mph flat for some reason is awful. Above or below that it's pretty smooth, now the older rigid mount bike are a shake down. You get the full Harley experience with a rigid engine mount Sportster lol.
@@GixxerFoo I had a '93 and '00 Sportster. I guess you get used to it.
@@filoIII Lol you do, I ride mine long enough and you literally get numb to it.
883's and 1200's share the same crank, literally the same part number, and they've done so every model year since 1995. Which means the motors are not balanced differently between an 883 and 1200 despite the piston weight difference. Instead, they balance the crank for a piston weight in between the two. Well, the forged pistons in a 1275 kit are actually about halfway in between the 883 and 1200 piston weight. So the balance actually comes out better.
Are these lights all plug n play?
The LED headlights will plug right in and they work beautifully, now the led bulbs for the turn signals you will have to grind down the shoulder on the bulb itself. The bulbs for the turn signals won't fit in the housings unless you grind the shoulders down.
I recently bought a 99 sportster 883 with a conversion... how do i find out exactly what conversion it was given. Its my first sportster and wasnt given all the details.
To know exactly what conversion you would have have to pull the top end off and measure the cylinder bore, that would tell you if is a 1200, 1250 or 1275 conversion.
Cool that was fast.lol i just posted last night. Need a gasket kit i think o rings are leaking and will have to be tare it apart anyway. Only problem is... its my daily driver.
@@grandpawgoth5999 Damn that makes it tough but luckily they are really easy to work on so it doesn't very long to replace gaskets. It's really easy if it's rocker box cover o-rings.
Yep lower one's, only place you ever see oil is on top of primary at base of jugs mostly front i think. Running out from under the cover between. Not a spot on or around rockers.
@@grandpawgoth5999 Oh crap the base gasket let go? If you gotta go down that far it would be a great time to go ahead and feshen up all those gaskets. How many miles are on your bike?
will it fit a 03?
It will fit a 2003, they have the small fin cylinder kit so it will match the heads.
How to get in contact with Hammer for that big bore kit
www.hammerperf.com These guys are wonderful to work with and they are truly interested in the success of your build.
My bro had Harley 1200 kit put in his 89, by Harley dealership, instantly can't keep a stator. Been "fixed" by 3 other independent Harley mechanics.....still can't keep a stator. It sat for many yrs, my nuther bro took it over and had it "rebuilt" .......still can't keep a stator
I know this is something never heard of, never happened before, not possible.
I'd like for him to get it fixed cause when he(69) dies it goes to me......... I'm thinking compensator
For this reason, I'm big on stock.....well not just this reason.
That's really a curiosity since the bottom ends are the same on both the 883 and 1200. There's got to be something electrical causing the stator to fail. I'm just guessing here but maybe a wire was nicked during install and power is going to ground somewhere.
Stator is behind the clutch on a 4 speed. Poor design
No cams in kit??
That's a interesting thought, they offer everything separately but they do have conversion packages. You can do just a cylinder and piston, or add some cams with it. Even just the big bore kit works very very well with the stock cams.
@@GixxerFoo andrews are going in,,,well happy thay do a kit for 86_2003,,,im getting hammered,,,
This is the way🔥🤘
Looking for a good place on web for sportster parts
What kind of parts are you after? Hammer Performance has some damn good engine parts.
@@GixxerFoo cosmetics mostly handle controls clutch cable lights forward controls front master brakes. My hand controls are out of service. im finnaly up and around and back to work need to get it legal and get back on it only thing i dont need is mirrors lol. It already has big bore and runs too good lol.
You must have exquisitely accurate hearing.
Not after riding Harleys 😆😂
I am getting my 883 converted to a 1200 kit. The guy at the dealer specifically said it will be the equivalent to a stage 4 1200. I told them I wanted the most power I could get out of my bike... I am currently (and will continue) running V&H exhaust.
My question... After this is done, would having the 1275 kit put on give me even more power? I'm guessing a 1275 kit for a converted 883 would be different? Guess I need to call the company
The 1275 kit will produce more power than the basic 1200 conversion, but with a 883 the heads will hold you back. Now with a set of 1200 heads on a 1275 kit that's a whole new ball game.
@@GixxerFoo thank you! That's exactly what I needed to know
I've actually reached out to them regarding their kits you can look them up on TH-cam aswell they have a dyno video of their 1250 kit hitting a peak horse power of 126hp and 98 ft-lbs of tourqe but that the full kit not the basic kit like he showed in this video
If you upgrade the 883 to a 1200 or 1250 or 1275, should you think about changing the transmission gears? I checked the specs for the 2022 883 and 1200 and noticed that the 883 has taller gears. So now I'm thinking to get the most of it, widening the gear span to find a sweet spot might be a good idea. Any thoughts on that?
So, here's just my thoughts on it; honestly, if you're changing that much on a bike - the transmission gears, cylinders, pistons, cams, everything - then its just better to get a touring bike with all the bigger stuff already on it.
@@Dyna_SageI’m upgrading with an over bore to 1200 with head job. It’s not for touring. It’s my around town fun machine. For touring and highway miles I’ve got a big softail.