My surplus strength ups high arrived yesterday after waiting for it for two months. It is disappointing. The machining is sloppy with nearly a 1/16" of an inch gap between the uhmw and the bar. It rattles all over the cross piece. The bolt area has no support behind it all. I sent a mail to Jason (the owner) to discuss. At first, I mailed an automated email with a no-reply address without realizing it. When I didn't get a response, I sent it a second time to the correct address. Jason was noticeably upset in his response that I hadn't waited 24 hours for a response. It seems the "no-reply" address did go to him. He offered to send me some tape to fix it. My impression: don't bother with this thing. Rack mounted gliders like the Bully Glyder are a much better option. I personally have that device and it is incredibly well made and smooth. Fits perfectly with no slop. I'm glad I didn't bother to order the ups low or the upgraded pulleys.
@@aba192 It's a rep PR5000. One of the best selling racks on the market for the last few years. The owner or surplus was going to send me a shim to try and fix it but it was easier just to fix it myself and he was not at all nice in my communications with him. Most rack products these days are adjustable because 75mm has become much more common than 3inch.
@@TheGeneralPractition idk about much more… with BoS joining rogue in true 3x3.. anyhow I appreciate the feedback, was hoping rogue would finish the retrofit high pulley for the rhino but im now looking for alternatives, will avoid this now so thanks, might rock a cheap pully until something comes up
@@aba192 If I was was to do it again, I'd skip the SS but would still get the bully glyder without the extension and with a simple pivoting top pulley.
@@TheGeneralPractition Understood, that makes sense... only constraint of mine is I am dropping a rogue rhino into a 24in rach so I do have to find a way to make that work, but your input is valuable, I might settle for a single cheap pulley as I would save upwards of 500$ compared to a rinkadink slinger/UPS high arrangement
I love made in USA products like this and Rogue racks but I couldn’t imagine my home gym without my Rep selectorized lat low row. One day I’ll get the selectorized Athena to top it off!
Getting a high low pulley station with guiderods made for your power rack is the way to go, IMO. The unit for my inexpensive TDS 2" x 2" power rack was about $200 or so, and had chrome plated guide rods, and the low pulley' was higher than those Coop finds to be too low. Probably a little more than $200 now, but well worth it, IMO.
My one gripe on these systems is unless you already have a weight stack (like coop does in this video) or something similar to hook on to you're left with those dame upright weight pins that are just a pain to load and unload. I opted for a more permanent attachment to my upright in the Bridgebult upper pulley with their weight horns that attack and glide on the same upright.
Jujimufu's company(Grip Genie) loading pins are the way to go. They are a little bit thinner and have a smaller diameter plastic disc on the bottom which makes it much easier to offset large plates and have a stable angle of the pin when removing plates
1:05,not sure if you are aware that those manufacturers are ripping you off....I am shocked really. Literally ,here in Europe,there is 10usd of material in that attachment and every average welder can make exact the same part in less then 30 min...if that much....I can make this piece while finishing my coffee....USA....
Surplus Strength is next level quality and customer service. I have the UPS High and it’s phenomenal. I also have their stealth spotters which are incredible. They don’t take up a lot of holes on your upright and they’re fast to put on and take off. They’re also made with extra thick steel so they’re stronger than you’ll ever need, especially in a home gym. Are they in a higher price tier? Absolutely, but the value and quality justify the price and then some.
*I was interested in the Stealth Spotters, but wound up going with Oak Club's version. I like that the Oak Club stealth spotters have UHMW on the underside of the spotter arms, so you can flip them upside-down to get a height micro adjustment on the upright and you'll still have barbell protection. The fact you can't do that with the SS spotters made them an easy pass.*
The Bully Glyder is a MUST HAVE if you plan on going the Rogue Slinger route! Buffalo Bully Fab basically did what Rogue should have from the beginning!
@@GarageGymReviews would love to see you do a review on post sliders/gliders like the bully glyder, omni pulley, big roller x, etc. with the popularity of rep athena and ares i feel like building in functional training capacity into existing racks at a high/premium quality level is something folks are looking for and your comparing and contrasting would be a tremendous value to the community
UPS was a great solution for my Rogue monster rack. I was never a fan of the Rogue slinger and how it mounted. Also, if you have something like the rogue bench prop you can set the UPS low height wherever you want with 1in increments. Earlier adopters or if you review this 2 years ago you got the full package with hitch pins, high and low unit, custom cables lengths, hitch pins and loading pins.
I have used my UPS every work since getting it four months ago. I love it. It is the perfect addition to my Rogue RM6 rack. I leave it on the rack full time. It takes up very little space. It adds a ton of versatility to my rack. I also need to put a plug in for their Ultimate Accessory Strap. I bought it with the UPS. It is luxurious. I love doing tricep press downs, face pulls, etc. with it. Be sure to check it out, it is one of my favorites. Their speed pins are very nice too.
Hey, Coop. I'd like that spotter arm review, as well as any others you think are interesting products from that company. Keep up the good work. What do you do with all the equipment that you review that doesn't get added to your home gym?
Pretty sure they are not in stock yet. But I agree. I have a lat pulldown and their savage series storage racks and both are built great so I have high hopes for that unit.
I can weld. Ill make one for about $50. Already made a squat rack, weight storage rack, dumbell rack, belt squat, preacher bench, People should make more of there own gear.
@@nrgsch0tti347I have the same set up. I told them my rack height, and that I would be using it with a Rhino (which I believe sits at 7" above the floor). They cut my cable to the perfect length 👌🏻
@@nrgsch0tti347 I told them I had an 80" rack and they gave me a 100" cable. However it was a little long and my rack was too short for the setup. I ended up getting some 93" uprights and trimming them down to fit under my basement ceilings. I ended up with an 88" tall tack and the cable is the perfect length now. So maybe add 12" to the cable length to whatever rack height you have for the Rhino setup.
@@GarageGymReviews 👍 Coop, when using the UPS High with a loading pin, does the weight begin to swing during reps? This was the most annoying part of using the Spud Inc. pulley system, but that as you know was just a single pulley. I"m sure the UPS is at least better since it's isolating some of the direction of pull because it has 2 pulleys, but does the weight still swing? Thanks.... Mike
Great review as always. I love how you point out both the positives and negatives. I've been planning out my first home gym for the past few months and was really interested in the SS UPS for a long time. I'm really not a fan of the Rogue slinger system so this seemed like the next best bet. However, I think I'm going to end up going with the BOS Hydra lat pull-down attachment. It's a true 3x3 that hooks up to RML racks seamlessly. Although I really want American made products in my gym I just can't justify the price point for this item. It gets even more expensive after you include the low row system. I've also heard a lot of people complain about the size of the foot plate on the low row. I think a review of the safeties is a good idea!
This seems to be a more affordable option than the (Rep) Ares Functional Trainer that I currently own and really enjoy. Not sure I could use a Plate Loaded Cable Trainer after now using my Pin loaded machine. However, if I had no other option and it is functional and just starting out this looks like a great option for people who do not have the square footage or finances to purchase independent machines for their home gym and just want some diversity in their training. Nice detailed video.
What will lat pulldowns do that pull-ups can't? Correct me if I am wrong, but unless lat pulldowns have some provision to hold a user down (enabling him/her to pull with force exceeding bodyweight), it seems that pull-ups are just as good or better and easier to achieve without this maze of metal.
Are there an aftermarket pulley and track system upgrades available for replacing the sticky and gritty systems. I have Marcy Smith home gym I bought for safety of lifting alone. The pulley system has very little resistance on the negative stroke even after lubricating the chrome track and pivots.
I am waiting for the integrated functional trainer and monster power rack from Rogue to come out and see what Hammer Strength comes out with later this year.
Interesting idea, but their price is way out of touch for what you’re getting. As you mentioned, barely a difference of price for a central mounted integrated high and low pulley system? No brainer in my opinion.
I can’t decided between this and the rep plate loaded lat/low row. I just barely have enough space for the rep where as this will virtually take up no space. Are they comparable?
Can you use the rhino or a belt squat with the double stack on either of these? I don’t want a plate loaded functional trainer, but I want a belt squat.
$400 and you don’t even get the thing to attach weight with and no pins I was actually thinking of buying this but but having that many add ons to essentially use it for what it’s designed that’s a no go for me
Finally a SURPLUS STRENGTH review! Been using UPS High for 2+ years - smoother than a commercial gym lat machine - universal fit - smart design - compact - made in USA - veteran owned. UPS High may seem expensive compared to a lat tower, but it takes up no additional space and should last a lifetime. Lat tower needs assembly and requires 20 square feet.
Yep Exactly why I love mine. I got one from the original preorder and it awesome. Back then it came with everything. But it makes since now that it doesn’t because folks may want speed pins or have other mag pins they use etc.
Its not worth the Price. I bought a power rack from an European brand, that came with low row and lat pull-down already and it costed 450€. Less than just the attachment
I literally tell everyone I know to watch this channel! I’m buying a Rep Ares next week and know there’s some updates to the D Handles. I’m not sure if I just keep the ones they send or get maybe the ones from Rogue. I know there’s a lot of SIMILAR handles out there. I hope there’s a chance you’ll consider making a video for D handles specifically
I have the Rep Fitness Ares and their replacement D handles. I already had the Rogue D handles and think they are better quality. I only use the Rogue versions. The Rep chrome Pro D handles would be very good too. I have their cable chrome curl bar and it is high quality.
Good evening Mr. Coop, Great review! Quick question: I have a Rogue Monster Lite 1/2 rack. What is the best (and smallest) lat pulldown / low row attachment (with a weight rack) I can use on the Rogue 1/2 rack? (not a big fan for the Slinger)…. Thank you, sir. Respectfully, Robert
Please review the Fitness Reality X-Class Light Commercial High Capacity Olympic Power Cage. I've seen this unit has had some upgrades from 2015 and would love to know your thoughts. Going to add this comment to a few of your videos with hopes you see it.
I have the unit and have used it for 2 years. It’s smooth as butter with very little swing. Expensive yes but so is everything else in my garage. Space is at a premium for me plus it is made by a US company by an American entrepreneur and by American skilled labor. Instead of making another Chinese billionaire I will support Jason and his company. Mine stays on the top crossmember and I tuck the cable over and out of the way. If the price does not work for you don’t buy it and invest in the item that fits your garage gym needs and goals. That said when I ordered mine it did come with the pins and loading pin. So the model for them has changed since my purchase.
Coop you forgot to mention how the UPS cable is free on top and looks tacky. It doesn’t give a clean finish and a big mess on aesthetics in the clean design when you’re not using it..
I got a Surplus Strength UPS with all the bells and whistles (low row, aluminium pulleys etc) plus shipping and customs to Scandinavia so it cost a pretty penny, but I have absolutely zero regrets. I use it in almost every workout and could not imagine my gym without it. Quality product, quality people at the company. Buy once, cry once. I have Rogue RML rack and went with a 103" cable.
There's no question that everything Surplus Strength makes seems to be of very high quality, but as you pointed out, this is an attachment that really only does 2 things (lat pulldowns, tricep pressdowns). I know some people will scoff at this, but at the height of the pandemic, I went with a Titan T3 rack and the full Titan pulley system, as opposed to the lat/low row attachment. Sure, its nylon pulleys are nowhere near as smooth as the UPS High's -- I do wish there was a way to limit the side to side motion of the Titan pulleys -- but it was much cheaper (it's only about $110 even now, some 3 years later) and by moving the lower cross braces up one notch on the rack, I can put the low pulley just where it should be -- right about where it would be at a commercial gym. By contrast, even the Rep attachment places the low pulley WAY too far down -- it's more like an upright row.
How do the Surplus Strength Spots compare to the Oak Club Alpha Arms? Those are the top two on my list. I like the minor adjustment ability with the Alphas, but both have a very low profile.
Bought my UPS high and UPS low rhino through surplus strength a few months back. I placed the items i wanted in my cart and left it for a day or two. They shot me an email with an offer to upgrade to aluminum pulleys for free with a promotion coupon. Definitely worth a shot for anyone interested in pulling the trigger
I just bought the Granite Fitness Pulley system and am...whelmed. It got me lat pull down/low row but there's improvement I think. Might be worth you checking out for a review
I made the mistake of buying the Rogue Slinger. I would avoid it at all costs. It has a very poor desgin relative to most other products mentioned here.
Coop, your reviews are very well done. You cover all the bases and comparisons as well as other options. And your honest. Your very good at what you do. Keep up the great work ! Now as far as ideas. Have you reviewed the Titan leverage squat machine. I hear from a reliable source that it's a very good piece of equipment for quads. Im doing my "due diligence" on this one before I make any decision. Anyway hats off to you.
Titan high low pulley system rack attachment! Check it out. Works great. My only recommendation is to face the pulley that the weights hang off in towards the rack and up. This will create better clearance.
I’d love to see you review Uclips. I bought mine a month or so ago and it’s super versatile. Also would love to see you review stuff from arm assassasin strength shop. I’ve gotten a ton of things from them and Lucas the owner is great at helping with custom orders too
Does anyone know if Coop has a video on gym flooring over carpet? I have a carpeted basement home gym that I want to put flooring over and am not sure if this is a good idea.
Love to see the review on the spotter arms. Would love to see more reviews on cable systems. I am still not sure which to buy. Maybe a comparison of the best ones out there. Thanks.
Bought it and love it. Game changing upgrade over Spud's pulleys. Only negatives (other than price): My REP multigrip pullup bar doesn't give the SS pulley hardware much room to breath, so for lat pulldowns, I sit sorta off center. Beyond that, I have an REP Omni rack, so that means I can't use the UPS low pulley attachment. But overall, this is a great product. Use it every upper body day.
Jason and team at SS are fantastic.
They sure are
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I would have to agree 💯
Customer service has been awful on my end. No one responds at SS
My surplus strength ups high arrived yesterday after waiting for it for two months. It is disappointing. The machining is sloppy with nearly a 1/16" of an inch gap between the uhmw and the bar. It rattles all over the cross piece. The bolt area has no support behind it all. I sent a mail to Jason (the owner) to discuss. At first, I mailed an automated email with a no-reply address without realizing it. When I didn't get a response, I sent it a second time to the correct address. Jason was noticeably upset in his response that I hadn't waited 24 hours for a response. It seems the "no-reply" address did go to him. He offered to send me some tape to fix it. My impression: don't bother with this thing. Rack mounted gliders like the Bully Glyder are a much better option. I personally have that device and it is incredibly well made and smooth. Fits perfectly with no slop. I'm glad I didn't bother to order the ups low or the upgraded pulleys.
is your rack a main company or a rink-a-dink brand?
@@aba192 It's a rep PR5000. One of the best selling racks on the market for the last few years. The owner or surplus was going to send me a shim to try and fix it but it was easier just to fix it myself and he was not at all nice in my communications with him. Most rack products these days are adjustable because 75mm has become much more common than 3inch.
@@TheGeneralPractition idk about much more… with BoS joining rogue in true 3x3.. anyhow I appreciate the feedback, was hoping rogue would finish the retrofit high pulley for the rhino but im now looking for alternatives, will avoid this now so thanks, might rock a cheap pully until something comes up
@@aba192 If I was was to do it again, I'd skip the SS but would still get the bully glyder without the extension and with a simple pivoting top pulley.
@@TheGeneralPractition Understood, that makes sense... only constraint of mine is I am dropping a rogue rhino into a 24in rach so I do have to find a way to make that work, but your input is valuable, I might settle for a single cheap pulley as I would save upwards of 500$ compared to a rinkadink slinger/UPS high arrangement
I love made in USA products like this and Rogue racks but I couldn’t imagine my home gym without my Rep selectorized lat low row. One day I’ll get the selectorized Athena to top it off!
My 30$ pulley set off Amazon is the smoothest I've ever used. Two of them for lat pull downs would be sick, it's variable angle / unilateral.
Which ones did you get? I’m looking into getting a pair
@@xes4396 for amazon USA ; Mikolo fitness.
Getting a high low pulley station with guiderods made for your power rack is the way to go, IMO. The unit for my inexpensive TDS 2" x 2" power rack was about $200 or so, and had chrome plated guide rods, and the low pulley' was higher than those Coop finds to be too low. Probably a little more than $200 now, but well worth it, IMO.
This has been on my wish list for a while, but then I’ve seen dialled motion option. Fancy doing a comparison coop?
You mentioned Titan and REP racks are 70mmx70mm. They are both 75mmx75mm.
Hate to take this things thunder but you can get big lats with weighted pull ups and rows… just sayin
Facts
My one gripe on these systems is unless you already have a weight stack (like coop does in this video) or something similar to hook on to you're left with those dame upright weight pins that are just a pain to load and unload. I opted for a more permanent attachment to my upright in the Bridgebult upper pulley with their weight horns that attack and glide on the same upright.
Jujimufu's company(Grip Genie) loading pins are the way to go. They are a little bit thinner and have a smaller diameter plastic disc on the bottom which makes it much easier to offset large plates and have a stable angle of the pin when removing plates
14:53 You said 70mm x 70mm. I think you meant 75mm x 75mm which is 2.95 inches.
A few years ago, he was saying 75. Lately, he's brain-farting 70.
I would love to see a review on the slinger weight stack with extension and seat
Jason from SS is also just a great human being!
1:05,not sure if you are aware that those manufacturers are ripping you off....I am shocked really. Literally ,here in Europe,there is 10usd of material in that attachment and every average welder can make exact the same part in less then 30 min...if that much....I can make this piece while finishing my coffee....USA....
Surplus Strength is next level quality and customer service. I have the UPS High and it’s phenomenal. I also have their stealth spotters which are incredible. They don’t take up a lot of holes on your upright and they’re fast to put on and take off. They’re also made with extra thick steel so they’re stronger than you’ll ever need, especially in a home gym. Are they in a higher price tier? Absolutely, but the value and quality justify the price and then some.
Can you do a video on smaller boutique gym equipment companies ?
This thing looks dope
I'm interested in those stealth spotters
Please review Dialed Motion pulley system!
*I was interested in the Stealth Spotters, but wound up going with Oak Club's version. I like that the Oak Club stealth spotters have UHMW on the underside of the spotter arms, so you can flip them upside-down to get a height micro adjustment on the upright and you'll still have barbell protection. The fact you can't do that with the SS spotters made them an easy pass.*
The Bully Glyder is a MUST HAVE if you plan on going the Rogue Slinger route! Buffalo Bully Fab basically did what Rogue should have from the beginning!
I want to try it. Love the idea you had to use it as a smith machine. Genius! - Coop
@@GarageGymReviews Make it happen! The smith and belt squat setups alone are worth the price of admission!
@@GarageGymReviews would love to see you do a review on post sliders/gliders like the bully glyder, omni pulley, big roller x, etc. with the popularity of rep athena and ares i feel like building in functional training capacity into existing racks at a high/premium quality level is something folks are looking for and your comparing and contrasting would be a tremendous value to the community
UPS was a great solution for my Rogue monster rack. I was never a fan of the Rogue slinger and how it mounted.
Also, if you have something like the rogue bench prop you can set the UPS low height wherever you want with 1in increments.
Earlier adopters or if you review this 2 years ago you got the full package with hitch pins, high and low unit, custom cables lengths, hitch pins and loading pins.
Hey Coop, would you do a review on Dialed Motion Cable System + Lat pull down, would be a net review to compare
I have used my UPS every work since getting it four months ago. I love it. It is the perfect addition to my Rogue RM6 rack. I leave it on the rack full time. It takes up very little space. It adds a ton of versatility to my rack.
I also need to put a plug in for their Ultimate Accessory Strap. I bought it with the UPS. It is luxurious. I love doing tricep press downs, face pulls, etc. with it. Be sure to check it out, it is one of my favorites. Their speed pins are very nice too.
If you have a REP rack, the REP lat/low row is a better option.
Hey, Coop. I'd like that spotter arm review, as well as any others you think are interesting products from that company. Keep up the good work. What do you do with all the equipment that you review that doesn't get added to your home gym?
Would love to see a review for stealth spotters
Hey Coop! Great review as usual. Would love to see you do a review on Revolts Pulley system
man if you'll ask professional welder about these welds 6:09 youll be surprised how trash they actually are ;D
How about reviewing the Fray Fitness functional trainer/half rack combo. It has been on sale for 2k and would like to see it in action.
Pretty sure they are not in stock yet. But I agree. I have a lat pulldown and their savage series storage racks and both are built great so I have high hopes for that unit.
Why would you get the low row rhino attachment instead of doing a low row from the rhino directly?
I can weld. Ill make one for about $50.
Already made a squat rack, weight storage rack, dumbell rack, belt squat, preacher bench,
People should make more of there own gear.
Totally agree. People should also cut their own hair and make their own clothes.
@@svengali5415 Also do their own bloodwork and electricity.
Want to see stealth spotters vs oak club spotters
Steadfast lifting has very similar spotter arms and they’re less expensive. Think he just closed the window for his first round of orders.
The UPS + Rhino is 🔥🔥🔥 Added it to my Rhino rack and it's a commercial grade feel.
what lenght did you tell them from the ground or the lenght from the raised plateau? 🤔
Agreed! - Coop
@@nrgsch0tti347I have the same set up. I told them my rack height, and that I would be using it with a Rhino (which I believe sits at 7" above the floor). They cut my cable to the perfect length 👌🏻
@@nrgsch0tti347 I told them I had an 80" rack and they gave me a 100" cable. However it was a little long and my rack was too short for the setup. I ended up getting some 93" uprights and trimming them down to fit under my basement ceilings. I ended up with an 88" tall tack and the cable is the perfect length now. So maybe add 12" to the cable length to whatever rack height you have for the Rhino setup.
@@GarageGymReviews 👍 Coop, when using the UPS High with a loading pin, does the weight begin to swing during reps? This was the most annoying part of using the Spud Inc. pulley system, but that as you know was just a single pulley. I"m sure the UPS is at least better since it's isolating some of the direction of pull because it has 2 pulleys, but does the weight still swing? Thanks.... Mike
I got to test it out at Home Gym Con last year and hang out with Jason a little bit last year.
Thanks Coop! Why do you need the low row part if you have a rhino? Can't you just low row directly from the rhino?
Also what do you use to lock your legs down when doing lat pull downs?
Love my UPS, game changer for my limited space home gym.
Too expensive for what it is. Pass.
Agree. I have a DIY dual pulley setup at home that does the same thing for less than $50
Great review as always. I love how you point out both the positives and negatives.
I've been planning out my first home gym for the past few months and was really interested in the SS UPS for a long time. I'm really not a fan of the Rogue slinger system so this seemed like the next best bet. However, I think I'm going to end up going with the BOS Hydra lat pull-down attachment. It's a true 3x3 that hooks up to RML racks seamlessly.
Although I really want American made products in my gym I just can't justify the price point for this item. It gets even more expensive after you include the low row system. I've also heard a lot of people complain about the size of the foot plate on the low row.
I think a review of the safeties is a good idea!
I’ve had my UPS for nearly two years now, irreplaceable piece of gym. Couldn’t imagine my home gym without it
I was going to get this attachment but the price steered me away. I ended up getting rogue monster slinger with 300lb weight stack for $1.2k shipped.
Awesome review as always. Would love to see a review comparing the SS UPS to the Rep selectoralized lat pull / low row
This seems to be a more affordable option than the (Rep) Ares Functional Trainer that I currently own and really enjoy. Not sure I could use a Plate Loaded Cable Trainer after now using my Pin loaded machine. However, if I had no other option and it is functional and just starting out this looks like a great option for people who do not have the square footage or finances to purchase independent machines for their home gym and just want some diversity in their training. Nice detailed video.
I have a SML 2 so I didn’t go for these rack pulley systems. I got the Ironmaster Cable Pulley and love it. Probably my favorite home gym equipment.
The Stealth spotters are plenty strong. I have seen 800lbs drop test on them. They are a sweet low profile spotter arm option
Would love to see you do a review of Maximum advantage grips and a comparison against some of the biggest copies
What will lat pulldowns do that pull-ups can't? Correct me if I am wrong, but unless lat pulldowns have some provision to hold a user down (enabling him/her to pull with force exceeding bodyweight), it seems that pull-ups are just as good or better and easier to achieve without this maze of metal.
Are there an aftermarket pulley and track system upgrades available for replacing the sticky and gritty systems. I have Marcy Smith home gym I bought for safety of lifting alone. The pulley system has very little resistance on the negative stroke even after lubricating the chrome track and pivots.
I am waiting for the integrated functional trainer and monster power rack from Rogue to come out and see what Hammer Strength comes out with later this year.
Interesting idea, but their price is way out of touch for what you’re getting. As you mentioned, barely a difference of price for a central mounted integrated high and low pulley system? No brainer in my opinion.
Can you recommend the best pulley system for a Titan X3 folding rack? I'd like to get a rack attached to save space.
got one of these - they are great. for a low row you can tie a pulley to a lower cross member.. then make some bocks with 2x8s. works perfectly
I can’t decided between this and the rep plate loaded lat/low row. I just barely have enough space for the rep where as this will virtually take up no space. Are they comparable?
What I'm hearing you say is that for just $450 you can turn your $2200 rhino into a really nice lat pulldown :/
hi Coop! can you review the Dialed Motion Pulley System please? Thank you!
LOL! I could buy a used pin stack machine for what they want for this
Can you use the rhino or a belt squat with the double stack on either of these? I don’t want a plate loaded functional trainer, but I want a belt squat.
Hey Coop, we need a review of the Bridge Built Omni pulley system please!!
I'd love a review on the stealth spotters for sure
I did one a few months back if you want to check it out.
$400 and you don’t even get the thing to attach weight with and no pins I was actually thinking of buying this but but having that many add ons to essentially use it for what it’s designed that’s a no go for me
That’s ignorant on your part. This piece is smoother than any industrial/commercial grade of equipment out there. I own one and it’s like butter.
Coop!!! Can you review the Voltra direct drive cable trainer which attaches to a rack?
Would love to see a leg extension/curl setup using Beyond Power Voltra.
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Just bought one last month, the build quality is top notch. perfect design for limited space.
Hi what is your lat pull down system ? I saw the rhino logo on it . Thanks
Finally a SURPLUS STRENGTH review! Been using UPS High for 2+ years - smoother than a commercial gym lat machine - universal fit - smart design - compact - made in USA - veteran owned. UPS High may seem expensive compared to a lat tower, but it takes up no additional space and should last a lifetime. Lat tower needs assembly and requires 20 square feet.
Yep Exactly why I love mine. I got one from the original preorder and it awesome. Back then it came with everything. But it makes since now that it doesn’t because folks may want speed pins or have other mag pins they use etc.
Agreed!
Its not worth the Price. I bought a power rack from an European brand, that came with low row and lat pull-down already and it costed 450€. Less than just the attachment
I literally tell everyone I know to watch this channel! I’m buying a Rep Ares next week and know there’s some updates to the D Handles. I’m not sure if I just keep the ones they send or get maybe the ones from Rogue. I know there’s a lot of SIMILAR handles out there. I hope there’s a chance you’ll consider making a video for D handles specifically
I have the Rep Fitness Ares and their replacement D handles. I already had the Rogue D handles and think they are better quality. I only use the Rogue versions. The Rep chrome Pro D handles would be very good too. I have their cable chrome curl bar and it is high quality.
@@markhalstead2386 thanks for the comment, I was leaning towards the rogue handles and I think you just solidified my decision lol
Can you use this with the Titan T-3 power rack?
1. I can DIY this with a simple crossmember much cheaper
2. Giant had a stand alone for 299
3. Low pullys def need to be higher
Can you do a review of the Bullet Pulley please!!
Good evening Mr. Coop,
Great review! Quick question: I have a Rogue Monster Lite 1/2 rack. What is the best (and smallest) lat pulldown / low row attachment (with a weight rack) I can use on the Rogue 1/2 rack? (not a big fan for the Slinger)…. Thank you, sir.
Respectfully,
Robert
Please review the Fitness Reality X-Class Light Commercial High Capacity Olympic Power Cage. I've seen this unit has had some upgrades from 2015 and would love to know your thoughts. Going to add this comment to a few of your videos with hopes you see it.
I have the unit and have used it for 2 years. It’s smooth as butter with very little swing. Expensive yes but so is everything else in my garage. Space is at a premium for me plus it is made by a US company by an American entrepreneur and by American skilled labor. Instead of making another Chinese billionaire I will support Jason and his company. Mine stays on the top crossmember and I tuck the cable over and out of the way. If the price does not work for you don’t buy it and invest in the item that fits your garage gym needs and goals. That said when I ordered mine it did come with the pins and loading pin. So the model for them has changed since my purchase.
yea, 400 dollars they are high on crack
Coop you forgot to mention how the UPS cable is free on top and looks tacky. It doesn’t give a clean finish and a big mess on aesthetics in the clean design when you’re not using it..
For the love of god, stop saying “Bougie”, it doesn’t mean what you think it means (and “ bourgeois” also doesn’t mean what you think it means)
I got a Surplus Strength UPS with all the bells and whistles (low row, aluminium pulleys etc) plus shipping and customs to Scandinavia so it cost a pretty penny, but I have absolutely zero regrets. I use it in almost every workout and could not imagine my gym without it. Quality product, quality people at the company. Buy once, cry once. I have Rogue RML rack and went with a 103" cable.
There's no question that everything Surplus Strength makes seems to be of very high quality, but as you pointed out, this is an attachment that really only does 2 things (lat pulldowns, tricep pressdowns). I know some people will scoff at this, but at the height of the pandemic, I went with a Titan T3 rack and the full Titan pulley system, as opposed to the lat/low row attachment. Sure, its nylon pulleys are nowhere near as smooth as the UPS High's -- I do wish there was a way to limit the side to side motion of the Titan pulleys -- but it was much cheaper (it's only about $110 even now, some 3 years later) and by moving the lower cross braces up one notch on the rack, I can put the low pulley just where it should be -- right about where it would be at a commercial gym. By contrast, even the Rep attachment places the low pulley WAY too far down -- it's more like an upright row.
Love that it literally take up zero space.
How do the Surplus Strength Spots compare to the Oak Club Alpha Arms? Those are the top two on my list. I like the minor adjustment ability with the Alphas, but both have a very low profile.
Bought my UPS high and UPS low rhino through surplus strength a few months back. I placed the items i wanted in my cart and left it for a day or two. They shot me an email with an offer to upgrade to aluminum pulleys for free with a promotion coupon. Definitely worth a shot for anyone interested in pulling the trigger
I just bought the Granite Fitness Pulley system and am...whelmed. It got me lat pull down/low row but there's improvement I think.
Might be worth you checking out for a review
I made the mistake of buying the Rogue Slinger. I would avoid it at all costs. It has a very poor desgin relative to most other products mentioned here.
Coop, your reviews are very well done. You cover all the bases and comparisons as well as other options. And your honest. Your very good at what you do. Keep up the great work ! Now as far as ideas. Have you reviewed the Titan leverage squat machine. I hear from a reliable source that it's a very good piece of equipment for quads. Im doing my "due diligence" on this one before I make any decision. Anyway hats off to you.
Can you review Dick's fitness gear pro Olympic bench? Its 250 bucks and I'm thinking about getting it.
Titan high low pulley system rack attachment! Check it out. Works great. My only recommendation is to face the pulley that the weights hang off in towards the rack and up. This will create better clearance.
I’d love to see you review Uclips. I bought mine a month or so ago and it’s super versatile. Also would love to see you review stuff from arm assassasin strength shop. I’ve gotten a ton of things from them and Lucas the owner is great at helping with custom orders too
Does anyone know if Coop has a video on gym flooring over carpet? I have a carpeted basement home gym that I want to put flooring over and am not sure if this is a good idea.
I think a dedicated lat pulldown station is the best option. It's the piece of equipment with the smallest floor space.
More small companies yes!
What are the mini extension arms on the front/top of your rack where you added the extra crossmember? Can’t find them on rogues site.
Why don’t you ever review ATX? They have much better equipment than you are reviewing.
Love to see the review on the spotter arms. Would love to see more reviews on cable systems. I am still not sure which to buy. Maybe a comparison of the best ones out there. Thanks.
Bought it and love it. Game changing upgrade over Spud's pulleys. Only negatives (other than price): My REP multigrip pullup bar doesn't give the SS pulley hardware much room to breath, so for lat pulldowns, I sit sorta off center. Beyond that, I have an REP Omni rack, so that means I can't use the UPS low pulley attachment. But overall, this is a great product. Use it every upper body day.
What kind of hack Is it?? the roller and stripe 3x3 on your power Rack??
I have inspire SF3 Will this work? If not is there some that does?
No this will work on the Inspire FPC1 with the removal of the bandpegs
Bruh! You brain-fart dakine 70mm. 3 x 3 stay 75, cuz.
Will the UPS High fit on a Rep PR5000 rack?
Yes it will!
Some 2x2 attachment reviews or how to make a Coop squat would be great!
Please review the spotter arms ty
Coop can you review Deltech fitness smith machine and rack?