About 5 years ago i was going to top myself. One night i was ready to go out and jump from a bridge. For some reason, before i left the house, i felt i needed some "going out" music - almost like a Saturday night on the town. I chose (of all the thousands of records in my collections, from Flying Lotus back to Beethoven and beyond) the first record that really, truly connected with me: Definitely Maybe. I remember lying on the sofa with head in my hands when Live Forever came on. And that was that. That song - a song about (in the words of Alex Niven) "retaining hope in your darkest moments" changed my mind. I spent the rest of the night with my guitar playing along with it. And when the morning came i had resolved to LIVE, as hard as i could, to feel every moment as a gift. I read the Price article. I wonder if such people really know that theyre alive. One day we'll all be gone and none of this will matter. I am disappointed with the Ticketmaster fiasco, and even with the ticket prices (i had hoped for less than £100 for general admission standing), but Oasis saved my life. THAT is the power of those songs. I will love them forever.
@@MassiveCatLittleLegs THAT is the power of music. You were at home, readying yourself for what would have been the Last night of your life, when some instinct that you, as a music fan , kicked in. A need to listen to an album. "Should I stay of should I Go Now?", was the question in mind as the music played, but as you said, the sudden urge to play along to Live Forever naturally found its way in, and let back in that will to keep going. And- I like too , how you said that you wanted to listen to music before you were gonna leave the house that nite:: I think that was a part of you that somehow "knew" that music would infact impact the night ahead. You had a will, a wanting to listen to something. Your mind wanted to get you something to reconnect, rework things. And it did, with that song that nite. Fantastic story, mate. Thank YOU for sharing. 🤘🤘🤘🤘👍
@@nonalien-l1n It's made for the working class and anyone else who appreciates the same kind of music. It's clearly not for you, you snooty sneering pompous little...
Simon Price spent a lot of time trying to be an important player in the Brighton music scene. I spent some time in the same scene (first as a friend of a band and then as a member of a band) and he was only ever interested in getting to know female members of bands. Having never met him myself I can only relay this information, and cannot say anything factually about him, but the impression I got was that he desperately wanted to be a key part of something that didn’t really need him in the first place.
Almost not surprised by any of that given the look of the guy. far be it from me to judge a book by its cover, but he's outed himself enough that article to show me he's nothing more than snobby c**t.
i’m convinced that anyone who complains about Oasis using “simple chords” is a deeply frustrated songwriter who is annoyed that Noel could create such iconic tunes without having any advanced grip on musical theory
agreed. They are posers that took some time in their lives to learn a "tricky bit" and now feel above everyone else but cant find anyone giving them credit
"Cue wild celebrations from the section of the British public who are still nostalgic for the simpler times of Euro 96 and the first Blair administration. Britpop's coming home." SO WHAT? Greetings from Croatia.
Thank you James for another well thought out and researched video. In my opinion, my fellow commenters don’t need to insult Simon’s appearance, because your words say it all. As a gay Oasis fan that grew up in that very Northern banter-filled culture, I feel greatly offended by the article, and I thank you again for employing logic to dismantle it once and for all. Can’t wait for the Reunion now!
@@danshiers If Simon Price sees fit to insult every last working class, music fan that likes Oasis, not just in Britain but across the entire planet, the national flag of Great Britain and furthermore, legendary musicians who have praised Oasis and Noel Gallaghers prowess as one of the greatest songwriters around, since they broke in 94 to this very day, then he should be more than ready for people to quite rightly make the obvious assessment that he is a chubby old clown, desperately trying and failing to look “punk” at that age, whilst being about as far away from punk as it’s possible to be. He’s writing this piece in the Guardian and as we all know, attacks on white working class Brits are an everyday occurrence in that shitrag of a newspaper, as it serves as nothing more than a propaganda rag for the marxist agenda, playing it’s role in trying to destroy national pride and crush the spirits of those unfortunate enough to absorb any of the putrid lies they spread every single day.
Yeah I also grew up in the north and gay, I remember buying supersonic on 7 inch vinyl and thinking it was the best slice of guitar pop attitude I’d heard in years, sexy and swaggering, full of menace and melody, and then the album came out and you just couldn’t believe it, like a singles collection more than a debut album, and I was 28 when DM came out, lord knows what it was like if you were 14! Anyway, this video was a great deconstruction of prices arguments, very offensive notions of working class culture, the dog whistle that everyone’s ignorant and homophobic, yes such things exist of course, as they do within any walk of life, but my close family and friends - all from a pretty rough council estate in north east England - were utterly cool and supportive when I came out, and this was at the height of the AIDS hysteria of the 80’s, so no small thing. It’s astonishing as well that price is banging on about homophobia and is such a huge manics fan, yes the manics did flirt with homoerotic imagery etc, I’m a huge fan and was at the time as well, ditto suede, ditto pulp, but price casually leaves out the fact that Nicky and richey made very very crass, insulting and overtly homophobic comments, the infamous Michael stipe comment, the take down of Freddie mercury as one who ‘deserved’ to die of AIDS for leading a promiscuous lifestyle, all on record, just Google it, or check out you tube. Now with the manics there statements were always somewhere between the profound and to make you think, and other times purely to shock, but they were at the time never remotely apologetic, where as when Noel made the infamous comment about Damon and AIDS, he apologised in the next breath, but the journalist printed in any case. As I say, I love the manics and Nicky wire is genuinely repentant and embarrassed about a lot of his comments when he was in his early 20’s, but I always got where they were coming from, I never thought they hated gay people, they were pushing buttons, and with oasis, it’s lairy banter as you say, it’s not and never is as simple as price suggests, working class people are complex, nuance is not after all indigenous to middle class intellectual aesthetes who read the guardian. As for the stuff about Jeremy Corbyn, you have to laugh, because few newspapers stabbed JC more in the back than the supposedly left wing guardian, who attacked him as much as the daily mail did! A very sad article. I saw oasis 7 times during their initial lifespan, the best being at a freezing cold ice rink in the north east in early 1996 as they were right on the cusp of going nuclear, Noel has done great work on his own and his last album was one of his best sets of songs ever, I think he’s said yes to a reunion simply because he’d like to rock out again in a way in which he just can’t with the birds, and why not, it’s a catalogue of songs worth celebrating. Don’t let the doom sayers like Simon price set the narrative. Where was he while we were getting high?
Simon Fowler from OCS is gay. No one knew apart from his band and some close friends (Weller, Liam & Noel etc). Not even his parents knew. He was outed by the sun in an appalling manner. They did a double page spread, and the whole tome of it was "we've got him!". The incident was incredibly distressing to Fowler and his long term partner, who was so shaken up that he almost lost his life in a horrific car crash. According to Simon Fowlers book, the first thing Liam dud when he next saw him was give him a bug kiss on the lips in front of a load of people. Liam might have said so horrible things, but theres a difference between being thoughtless and malicious.
There's a very good recent thread on Twitter of Liam being an LGBT ally, try to find it. However, I looked up some of Noel's comments on trans people and it was absolutely disgusting.
Actually he was there, mates with the manics, the levellers and quite a few others. I disagree with dismissing the opinion of someone who was there, however, its only his view of it, it's like gary bushell wrote in one of his books about oi "i'm not responsible for what your band mates said about you".
I'm bisexual and I've never felt unsafe or unwelcome in the Oasis fan community. I always hate articles like this as they are performative, only there for clicks and makes it harder to call out actual homophobia, biphobia, transphobia whenever it happens.
@@stellajayne There's a difference between being an idiot and using certain words but then apologizing for it compared to those who actually have hate in their hearts
@@folksurvivaloh look someone with their head up their ass. Dude you can’t ignore any of that shit when it happens. That’s like ignoring racism and saying it doesn’t exist. What a rube, and weird too
I have not seen the internet as joyous and together as it was last week. Young girls, old women and men, young lads, all races and religion, cultures, worldwide, sexuality. That is something to celebrate. Price is so bitter.
"Wealthy young girls, wealthy old women and wealthy men, wealthy young lads, wealthy of all races and religion, cultures, worldwide, sexuality. That is something for the wealthy to celebrate." ftfy
War against Britishness War against patriotism War against the working classes War against straightness War against masculinity Anyone fancy a Greggs? 😉
Masculine? Oasis? Come off it. Their entire appeal is based on portraying a hideous homoerotic caricature of working class boys for the self-gratification of middle class boys who think they’re edgy by listening to music by some rough trade. From leafy Burnage.
@@JJPwfellinot Owen ‘shagger Jones! I seen him at Milwall away and the lads a proper mentalist! He done six bushwackers with headbutts alone!!! Or it could have been someone else…
I’m a bisexual member of the Labour Party and I can’t wait to see Oasis live. I despise discrimination of any kind INCLUDING classism. That of which this article is littered with.
I'm neither but agree 100%. Cannot stand snobbery inverted or otherwise. Can't wait for Liam to blast out RnR Star at the first gig and blow the naysayers away. 😂
The article was accusing Noel Gallagher of being a nationalist for daring to have a Union Jack inspired guitar at a time of Cool Britannia almost 30 fucking years ago and as a nod to his love of all things mods, Weller etc. Are we going to accuse Geri Halliwell of being a nationalist for her Union Jack dress? Worrying sign of the times when "journalists" like these have a platform. Insane that loving your country apparently makes you a right wing nationalist extremist now. We all know the problem is one of classism - The Gallaghers aren't the type to just accept their place and be deferential , are they afraid of working class people being inspired by that and not going along with the current narrative?
It's not just classism - it's selective classism. You just know these people would be the first to call you out on racism or whatever if you criticised drill music. They just hate working class people who still have respect for their nation
@@georgecase5908 Absolutely you are right. The problem/irony here is the article writer accuses Oasis and their fans of being pre-historic relics with intolerant views (which is flat-out wrong) whilst simultaneously and ironically being intolerant of Oasis and their fans with disparaging remarks and inaccurate statements.
The British media is so classist. I think it comes from the fact that Oasis grew up in council flats and now have more money than these leeches could ever dream of getting their hands on.
the guardian likes to pretend they care about the working class people, but the reality is they hate them and look down on them, especially if they make it out of the working class.
@@ads2686 That's rubbish. Who's sneering at Angela Rayner all the time? Who did elaborate deceptions to take out John Alford and Tulisa Constavalos for getting above their station? Who was always banging on about Bob Crowe living in a council house? It's the Right that does this stuff. Simon Price is from a working class background in South Wales, and certainly hasn't achieved middle class material status.
@@joshtn145 I almost get that however people who say that appearances don’t matter are also the ones who tell their children that first impressions are paramount. You can tell a lot about people from appearances, even more so these days and we all know what I mean by that.
Simon Price literally has a hammer and sickle tattoo on his upper arm, directly above a tattoo of the Welsh dragon. So it’s alright for him to have a symbol of pride for his nation but not for people to have Union Jacks ? And as for the hammer and sickle, well…. It’s not like we didn’t know he was a communist without seeing that tattoo. The irony of the man.
Having an hammer and sickle on your arm is literally as bad as having a sw*stika. Both regimes tortured and killed millions. Just different end of the political spectrum.
@@stellajayne Lol at the rest of your comments, desperately trying and failing to find reasons to defend this commie bell end. My favourite one is you accusing the Gallaghers of being homophobes because Liam called someone a batty boy 😂 Now you’re trying to insinuate that a guy with a hammer and sickle with the communist star tattooed on him isn’t a communist ? Not the sharpest are you Stella ?
@@nonalien-l1n are you reading this persons arse’s mind, or projecting? Only the latter is logical, psychologically speaking, the former being magical thinking.
And that’s how? Let me guess, you don’t like anyone who doesn’t dress in bucket hats and kagools. Another homophobe dinosaur with music tastes as dates as his views.
Like most of the people who write for the Guardian, this clown is an ideologue. We're having a new ideology forced on us at the moment, and part of that process involves destroying the old order. So, when anything from the past re-emerges that doesn't fit the new ideology, these ideologues can't compute it, and they hate it because it challenges their world view. Hence the attack. It's partly because this new ideology has nothing to offer that people still crave Oasis. They represent something that the guardian and it's readers have tried to suppress.
That’s a lot of words to say ‘I’m a right-wing nationalist who can’t get over that the Tories lost’. Oasis aren’t a political movement and this Price bloke shouldn’t have tried to make them one, but let’s not get confused - nationalism, political corruption and hierarchy do need to be crushed. That’s a totally reasonable ideology if you’re a fucking human being. Unlike this one, most Guardian articles at least call a spade a spade - Tories and Reform are corrupt fascists and they have duped too many working class people just because they appeal to a nationalist, anti-immigration stance.
@@wavell14Just because it wears a hammer and sickle, it doesn't mean it's not fascistic in nature. Totalitarians don't give a damn about your interpretation of their favoured ideological dystopia. They just insist that you comply or die.
@@wavell14you know nothing about the realities of marxism. Marxism was the foundation of all varieties of fascism. If you want me to call that totalitarianism marxist hellscape they had in the Soviet Union 'socialism' or 'left wing' I refuse. It was exactly the same as fascism. Hence it is Red Fascism. Socialism is something entirely different than marxism. Read some books please.
Indeed. Noel was always into dance music, OCS had a gay singer (and a black drummer) and Simon Price's beloved Manics were starting to gain a lot of traction around '96.
@@paulmblythe43 I hope they do, in fact there was never an issue between the manics and oasis. Manics even encouraged the super furries to go to creation due to how well they were treating oasis.
"I'm a Commie and because the English Working Class haven't turned out to be Commies like me, I hate them and anything they hold dear is puerile." Condensed Price' article into something easier to read.
'And because the working class have betrayed us we must replace them with a new 'proletariat' made up of sexual, racial, and religious minorities to use as our battering ram to bring about the socialist utopia.'
@@toddpacker4683 Even if he did think he's a communist, he isn't. He's actually just a boring liberal who affirms bourgeois individualism. 'Traditional' marxists would have regarded the replacement of a class-based revolution by individualised sexual liberation (of the sort this half-witted journalist affirms) as an absolute abomination...
Like we're all so one dimensional, I bought His N Hers by Pulp, Holy Bible by MSP and Definitely Maybe the day they all came out in 1994, so there's no Oasis fans who like any other bands? I was well into the Manics and Pulp, Holy Bible being Richey's last stand and His n hers being when after years in the wilderness Pulp got massive.
At the peak of my Oasis fandom in the '90s, I was listening to all the other major Britpop bands as well as American alt-rock, hip-hop and synthpop. Not all of us were just listening to Oasis, The Stone Roses and The Beatles endlessly.
Same. Oasis, Blur, Pulp, Manics, Suede, Supergrass, Boo Radleys, Dodgy, Kula Shaker and all while listening to Beatles, Stones, Bowie, Sex Pistols, Clash, Smiths, Stone Roses etc. I will admit, Oasis did garner a subset of fans who weren’t particularly into music before and some who had migrated from the dance music scene. But making out as if everyone who was listening to Oasis was some sort of regressive Neanderthal is pretty disgusting.
Even as a German I used to have a Union Jack sticker on the trunk of my old Rover 400 back in the day. I guess that makes me a right wing British nationalist too?
And herein lies the problem with the core Oasis fan that anyone who doesn’t fit the mould of your Brit world view should be mocked. Simon Peice is a very well respected and educated journalist with more brain on his little finger than you have in your entire head. But go ahead mock his looks. Some of us are more concerned with his spot on view of a dinosaur of a band.
"more brain on his little finger" You are not the sharpest tool are you? 🤔 If you are going to insult millions of people, implying they're not very bright, I would *start* from a place of intelligence? Or have you got "brain on your little finger"? 😄 🙄
@@MovieTrailerDatabase His entire atricle not only mocks the band but the people who follow them, and you just did that, too - so come down from your high horse, you do not belong there.
After over two decades of reading the Guardian most days of the week I gave up on them in 2016. A bunch of arrogant bullsh1t merchants. There are few areas I agree with Nigel Farage, but his use of the term "Metropolitan Liberal elite" is bang on the money. Smugness and condescension is in the DNA of Guardian pseudo-journalists.
The output of ALL mainstream media is tightly controlled by the elites. It's just that the different papers use differing tactics depending on their target demographic. The Sun is no better or worse than the Guardian, the effective manipulation of the reader is all that matters.
I’m an Oasis fan. That article is warped bollocks, but the Gallaghers have blown any credibility by allowing dynamic pricing on their tickets. Their younger selves would surely hate them for what they’ve done. A total cash-grab corporate sell-out.
@@thekissofvenus5711 well that was the main criticism of Knebworth back in the day still remember that guy in the bbc documentary "supposed to be working class lads from manchester, lower the prices lads"
@lewisb85 Weren't the tickets for Knebworth about £22.50? (A CD at the time cost £16) For that price you got Oasis in their prime and a whole slew of excellent support acts. Adjusted for inflation that would be about £47 in today's money? That's still far cheaper than what the cheapest tickets are for this lot of shows, and nobody knows which incarnation of Oasis are gonna be playing!
A lot of people have commented along the lines of 'What to you expect from the Guardian...' They also published a piece by Barbara Ellen, possibly on the same day, which strongly counters articles in the vein of Simon Price's.
But Glastonbury never was a pure guitar rock festival. Back in the Nineties, it had many hip hop, techno, electronica, drum‘n‘bass acts on the bill as well.
You're comment does imply that Working Class People are all by definition poor, which really isn't a trueism. Class is not these days defined by bank balance as it might once have been, it's the background you came from. I'm not having a pop, honestly! I do agree the pricing policy and the ability for tickets to double in price because of demand is unacceptable. You wouldn't pick up the last bottle of wine in a shop that's £7.99 and the checkout person say 'That's £12.99 now because everybody liked it and wanted some'. That's actually against consumer law in the UK, the original 'Shelf Price' is what has to be paid. Sadly it was that 'Man Of The People' Bruce Springsteen who brought in this policy, it was a wrong-headed attempt to beat the touts which has backfired spectacularly. Ticketmaster are the real c*nts in this scenario.
yeah because all working class people can't afford to spend money on anything. No working class people ever spend a good couple of grand taking their families on holiday in the summer. Also £150 for standing & £70 fir seating ain't exactly over the top. it was the people in charge of the tour who allowed ticketmaster to pull that price rises.
@@charliecoutts3003It might not be as true as it once was but let’s be honest, you’re less likely to have 500 quid for a pair of tickets despite the cohort of “made good” who still identify as working class. It’s hardly a fallacy.
Debbie’s sister is a lesbian for god sake and has been in his tour group of friends for 8 years. Geri halliwell wore a Union Jack dress. Were the spice girls national front?
James - this guy is OBSESSED with Oasis!? When I had twitter a few years back, I came across him and he was spewing the same mental crap then! He has this warped view and agenda against Oasis whilst thinking the Manics are the greatest band of all time. He's stalker level obsessed with hatred.... really weird.
I went to a private school and I love Oasis, so that blows that argument out of the water. I loved them so much I bought their CDs before I even had a player. The guy who wrote the article wouldn't know a decent song if it hit him over the head.
What is it with guardian journalists having to explain how they are really MORE working class than the working class person they are about to eviscerate?
I have never claimed to be an oasis fan. I find myself disliking them quite often. But I would never disparage them or their fans. One thing that really annoys me is when people forget one thing, music is SUBJECTIVE, oasis were and still are one of the biggest cultural draws to Britain and something that should be applauded. I just wish people would understand that. Like I said, personally I'm not a fan. But I honestly think british music would be very poor without them. The history is just fascinating.
Ironic, isn't it? Those who scream loudest for diversity and inclusivity are the quickest to throw hate-balls at those who don't share their opinions. Inclusivity? It means "every voice is welcome, _without_ exception".
I never had any Oasis albums. Even so, I respect their music. His quote, "Oasis' funkless, sexless plod is carefully pitched below the velocity...is there anything more useless than a rock band that doesn't rock?" shows he knows nothing about rock. The Beatles, Sabbath, Pixies and countless other seminal bands mostly didn't play fast. Their brilliance came from playing "in the pocket". Playing lots of notes, faster does not make it rock harder or better!
I used to live near Noel. Had a drink with him once. He was very humble and unassuming. Nice guy. I'm not a big Oasis fan, but they did have moments of brilliance. I hate this crap.
There have been plenty of pro oasis articles in The Guardian in recent weeks. It's just a story that's written to get hits. This video is helping. It's an opinion piece in a newspaper. From one guy - not the voice of the paper. Other opinions have been offered. In the meantime this story has gone viral and this guy's laughing all the way to the bank. In the meantime, how do we defend them opting in for dynamic pricing?
I don't get your point. It's acknowledged as an opinion piece and the video is an alternative opinion. On a deeper level it's an exploration of the hatred the likes of the guardian have for working class people as that's the real opinion of the article.
@@nicksmith4340 the point is that it isn't the editorial opinion of the Guardian and people have been responding to the video as if it is. There have been plenty of opinion pieces in The Guardian - this week and otherwise - praising the band and its cultural impact. Instead there's loads of 'I hate The Guardian' comments (like your own) that are acting like the Guardian is all about cutting them down. Ironically there actually is something to criticise Oasis for now - their use of dynamic pricing - but that can be saved for another article.
Their music is great, but charging your fans £150 standing rising to £350 on dynamic tickets is pretty disgusting. If they truly loved the fans and this wasn't a money grab then they'd cap the prices(like paul heaton does) and announce more dates....doesn't look like they've done that....
Hi James I’d love to see you do something about Slade’s influence on Oasis. I hear more Slade than Beatles in a lot of their songs, especially WTSMG era.
I agree, I think the Beatles influence on the first two albums is a bit overstated. A lot of glam rock in there (Slade, T. Rex, and unfortunately Gary Glitter on "Hello")
As I said to a friend recently, who was dealing with someone snobbishly criticising Oasis for no valid reason: “Anyone who hates Oasis really just hates themselves.”
As an Oasis fan I appreciate this article. Its exactly the sort of beefy piece you used to get in the NME in the 80s, the same UK which created Oasis. By calling it offensive you're part of the problem. Noel and Liam shouldn't have to play nice and neither should their critics.
Fantastic, well addressed , and nicely articulated. Im Irish, and fully understand what you said about the sort of 'piss taking, slagging off'' style of terms of endearment that, the right circle of friends in the right places say to eachother. Its all in jolting jests, jibes and jubilation. It is the very same where Im from, the same sort of small town, or smaller village scene where young lads bond in the same manner as you mentioned. Good on you lad, for standing up for things here. I also found the 'Logical Fallacy' theories fascinating, and want to look up more about that in general.
I bought my son Whats the story Morning Glory on cd back in 1996 ( I think) it became the background to our holiday that year with us all singing/ yelling as we drove around South Wales, good times an memories. Though I’m not a massive oasis fan , I’m an old Led Zeppelin, c ure, Smiths, Jam , Clash fan, I can’t appreciate why people do like them. I’m absolutely made up for all those Oasis fans that will get the chance to see them again or for the first time and hope it all goes well for them and the band.
That article is offensive. Price VERY obviously had an agenda, and that was "Make Shit Up to Fit My Narrative" Price mentions Manic Street Preachers. I'd wager the Manics and Oasis are closer than some would think. Sure the Manics were more intellectual maybe, but I feel both sang songs about working class empowerment. Nicky Wire has often spoken fondly of Oasis, and there's a brilliant half-hour conversation between Nicky Wire and Noel on TH-cam, the two of them sharing war stories from the 90s when the 2 bands played together. All the people whining since the reunion was announced feel like they're attention-seeking. I've seen so many "Am I the only one who doesn't care about Oasis?" posts on social media, it's pathetic. I grew up listening to Oasis, they were the first "proper" band (i.e. not a pop group) I got into. I am certainly not a flag-shagging reform voter. I grew up and those songs still resonate with adult me as they did teenage me. One of my favourite moments from going to a gig, was getting to see Noel do an unadvertised solo set in 1998 supporting Paul Weller (It was basically announced on the day of the show and I got lucky getting tickets). It was in Newport Centre just after Oasis had finished touring Be Here Now. Next time Oasis toured again it was all stadiums. As it goes, I voted for Labour when Corbyn was leader, so I'm more left-wing than Noel is, who at best, can be called a centrist based on his support of Tony Blair back then. The entire sentiment when Oasis emerged and their rise, was riding that feeling that years of Tory rule in the UK was coming to an end and things were about to start getting better. That's not how Price has tried to paint Oasis and their fans.
There was a similar one in The Independent where they carried the headline "Oasis Tour Will Be the Taylor Swift Eras Tour for Middle-Aged Straight Men" or roughly that. Couldn't get past the the first paragraph without smiling at the idea of this journo being so threatened by Oasis being 'too white, too male' essentially. (And the headline was also plain wrong about the age group thing -- it'll be full of 20s to 30s at the gigs, mainly.)
I mean anybody who has been to see noel gallaghers high flying birds or liam gallagher would know the they place is always full of fucking thousands of people under 30 and a shitload under 21.
@@ads2686 Exactly. It's just the MSM can't resist bashing their least favourite demographic. i.e. white; heterosexual; males. And the Oasis re-union represents a threat to their dream ideal of a big soviet blob of nothingness.
Just yesterday I was speaking with a friend who doesn’t like Oasis and rattling off reasons why She’s Electric is a genius composition and a perfect pop rock recording. Wish I had seen this video first, your explanation nailed it.
As a casual Oasis fan, I just had a feeling this reunion would rustle someone’s undies. The world was a tougher and more self reliant place in 1994. Let this Simon journalist have his say and move on. Stop crying your heart out…
Hey James, I've adored your channel for the past few years now and rarely comment on anyone's vids on youtube but would just like to say thankyou for this one, appreciate it. Keep doing and loving what you love to do and listen to and vibe with lad
When Blur announced in 2022 that they would play a sold-out Wembley show in 2023, Simon Price called it pretentious and completely wrong, when given their career and history, their fans deserved it, as did the people of London, who have loved them for many years. This Oasis reunion after more than 15 years of hiatus is a gift to long-time fans, and a gift to those who were not alive or had no idea how big Oasis was in the UK at its peak. I loved your point, James, saying that Simon is a half-baked politician and loves a damn clickbait, and you are right, because what he does is offend fans of bands who do not agree with his political stance. As a die-hard Blur fan, I've seen them and Oasis in concert here in South America, and I'd love to see Manic Street Preachers in concert one day. I love Manic Street Preachers, as a fan of Blur and Oasis, I think their album "Everything Must Go" is a masterpiece and the best album of 1996, but even the Manics, who are loved by Mr. Price, would not agree with this nonsense he is spreading. And I hope that on the dates in Wales, the Gallaghers will call either the Manics or Stereophonics. I'll go far, today all the musicians from the 90s are fathers and husbands, and have children, and are already much more evolved as people, what he is saying makes no sense, terrible article.
Simon Price hates Blur, but I understand that he doesn't like many bands in the genre apart from Manic Street Preachers, remembering that there are many snobbish fans, not only of Blur, but of Oasis or Pulp too, but most Britpop bands were very united.
Oasis and Blair who now is with the WEF of Klaus Schwab. Blair shouldn't be allowed in the same sentence when it comes to Oasis. Personally and I'm 62 now, still love Oasis. And nothing I read or to what others say will ever change my mind.
A very Sisyphean task to try and find a thread of logic in that article. He's just angry that the vast majority of people are not spiteful mutants like himself. The thing is, he'll always be angry because that will never change.
People who get upset by mean words really shouldn’t be Oasis fans! The Gallaghers have always been outspoken. They broke through at a time when we still had freedom of speech in the UK, but since the introduction of so called ‘hate speech’ legislation, freedom of speech has disappeared.
I’m communist, brazillian and an Oasis fan. Got in a relationship with a trans person and I’m an Oasis fan. Therefore I do understand a little bit, cause I’m a “woke” and a ploretarian, subjudging others like that isn’t constructive for anyone. Great vídeo, James!
@@wavell14 pinochet is in Chile bro. And still, for us here, "rust in h3ll" is a better approach for him. The most brutal dictatorship in South America
I can't believe the amount of crap being spoutted.. Even some rubbish in Ireland too.. Great work James, I hope the boys see this ☘️ Enjoy the next year 🎉
In 2021, ABBA reformed, thus distracting the attention of millions of Australians away from the dystopian tyranny unfolding in their land, (so loved were that group by Australians.) In 2024, Oasis reform in Britain...
I regret that this was precisely my reaction to the Oasis reunion tour. Blair will feature on the political scene & ghastly happenings off will be drowned out by the feel good hysteria of late 2025, when the tour is on. I hope I’m wrong but I’m almost certain that I’m not.
@@GT380man Lots of people are going to enjoy the concerts, lots of others will say they wish they were there. But I think you're rather overestimating the broader cultural possibilities of it all. Not least because Blair is long retired.
Well, if the entire UK (and others in the vicinity) are trying to get a limited amount of tickets all at the same time, that might be a thing that happens, it's also largely a Ticketmaster thing as well.
@defaultx238 the thing is oasis hired a company to run the tour, so it wouldn't surprise me if live nation (owned by ticketmaster) and ticketmaster decided to see if they could get away with upping the prices hoping no one would notice. I think liam & noel will have ro make a statement on it. From what I've heard, live nation was surprised by demand and thought they weren't charging enough for prices.
I had to double check that the article wasn't from The Daily Mash judging by the headline. Then I realised it wasn't satire. It was aparrently serious. Very disappointing.
As an English person who was 17 in 1995, I can certainly confirm that Mr Price's article does not accurately represent Oasis fandom. Some of it was just plain weird. What's he got against Euro '96?! Surely, that's just universally accepted as great? And whatever you think about how it turned out, in 1997 Labour brought an end to 18 years of Tory rule. To say it was a great relief is an understatement. Anyway, great response, James.
I was never a huge Oasis fan back in the day but after listening to this article I have decided to really like them from now on. I wonder if the "journalist" has stopped crying about their comeback yet. 😂
Life long Oasis fan here since I was a child in the 90s. Where that band was everywhere. I'm bi. I love gender bending. Many of my friends are lgbt+. I love the Manics too. I was a supporter of Corbyn (irrelevant but relevant this article). Oasis were class. I've always been a huge fan Liam. He's hilarious. He's a rock star and that's what I love. Not everyone looks like me or has the same interests. I'm not a "lad", never fit in with that. But at the end of the day. Oasis are a band. People like the music, I don't care what they look like and not eveeyone is the same and nor should they look the same. Oasis music has saved my life many times. During times when life is naff and my mood is low. The sound of Liams swagger and voice over those tunes makes me feel like the bollocks. Simon Price is way off the mark. Also "bumchums" literally offends no one. It's an oldschool term, we used to say it in high-school. It just means you were close, spent alot of time together and was a joke/"banter". Yeah, Liams comments... In the year 2000 (24 years ago!) are out dated and dumb. But he was young, drunk/high and it was in a completely different cultural context to today. Many other people have also pointed how Simon's complete failure to recall the context of Oasis (and many other bands) using the Union Jack at that time. In regard to politics. Noels rich, he won't want to pay taxes. He says what he thinks, even if I think his political comments are dumb. But the Manics, who are extremely politically switched on, when James Dean Bradfield was interviewed about Corbyn he didn't support him either. Why? Because he probably didn't want to pay taxes either. Did Simon Price pull him up on that? No, because Simon knows where his bread is buttered and is therefore a hypocrite with all of his talk about "the proletariat"..
Judging from the interviews I‘ve read, Noel Gallagher is probably the only person in Britain who still thinks Tony Blair should return to politics, and who‘s still buying into the idea of a Blair-type New Labour, which is otherwise hated by left-wingers, right-wingers and centrists alike. But describing New Labour epigone Miliband as a Communist was really bizarre, especially considering Noel‘s earlier funny remarks about how people should vote Labour so that Phil Collins won‘t return to the UK.
@@horstborscht7401 Noel says things. He doesn't even like some of his own albums which i love. Justice for Be Here Now and Standing on the Shoulders of Giants! I want a SotSoG reissue with extra tracks and a documentary/booklet! If the Manics can release anniversary reissues of some of their least critically and commercially successful albums, then Oasis certainly can!
@@MxLee192Noel needs to be quiet about Be Here Now. I was disappointed with it on release day because I expected another Morning Glory, but now I like the album a lot. Go figure.
The thing about Noel being supposedly regressive in his music tastes, yet he's done a drum and track with Goldie, dance track with the Chemical Brothers and almost did an album with The Amorphous Androgenous aka The Future Sound of London. You would think someone with a Soo Catwoman hair do (who probably thinks Keith Flint invented that) would know better? The thing about these music journalists is nobody gives a crap what they say these days when before they had the power to build and destroy scenes from their desk.
@@hiddentechno8266 Didn't Noel do TWO tracks with The Chemical Brothers? Noel being inspired by how communal acid house was doesn't get talked about enough.
The most articulated critique of that awful article! Thanks James. I'm a indie/alternative rock fan. I noticed how the main rock festivals have lost the 'rock' in favour of hip hop. I actually do street dance. I like the bit and the moves that come with it. But, I have been feeling disappointed in the loss of actual rock music in festivals. I was so happy when Noel made the comments about Glasto because I was thinking the exact same thing. He didn't say anything bad about Jay Z, he criticised what many of us were thinking. I did post in X after that article because I was upset. I wish ppl calling for 'tolerance' were leading by example. The way quite a few ppl have behaved since Oasis announced the reunion shows disrespect and intolerance towards the working class and Oasis fans in general. It's pretty illiberal tbh.
Well if it came to an argument of Blur and Oasis, I’d personally be in the Blur camp. Having said that, I have a lot of time for the first two Oasis albums, the early B-Sides and select singles from the later years. Seeing this article made me dig out the Definitely Maybe B-Sides for another listen. If enjoying Oasis annoys the woke, snobby holier-than-thou idiots, then I’m all for it
hello there! am so glad I found your channel! right on time! also, managed to get two tickets for the opening night!! Lots of love to you. a very quick comment before I watch the video, since you are commenting on this particular article, which I did read last week. As a queer migrant, non-white person, I must say that I sometimes get anxious about some of the concerts I attend in the UK. It's been a bitter sweet experience so far. A lot of us non UK kids of the 1990s around the world were mega britophile thanks to Oasis. I still absolutely love them and the premier league is still my favourite football league to watch. The article does reflect a lot of the anxieties that some oasis fans do carry BUT it also oozes of elitism and like a lot of elitist pieces in the UK, it demonizes the working-class sooner or later. the article, also, is completely wrong on the quality of oasis' music! Best. Band. Ever!
I want to add that the lads have mellowed, and their kids, like a lot of kids these days, are super cool and inclusive and kind. and I insist that they are influencing their dads. :)
@@SabiAllAs someone who is now 60 and saw Oasis play in a small room in front of 150 people when I was still in my 20's, you are wrong about young Oasis' fans 'Dads'. Imho, socirty in this country is far more divisive and finger-pointing than it was in the early 90's. People from all backgrounds and cultures (I have amixed inmigrant heritage from Grandparents back) rubbed along together far better than now. It does irritate me when People like you pontificate about a society you weren't part of as I expect you hadn't been born yet. No offence but think before you type
@@charliecoutts3003 I agree with what you're saying. I can't argue with it. The dads i'm referring to are Liam and Noel. Didn't realize that sharing my bitter sweet experience in the UK came across as pontificating. migrants can't ever win. Am nearing fifty myself.
Great video. Still gutted I couldn't get any tickets for the Edinburgh gig (fingers crossed for some reasonably priced resales) but the prospect of a new album is fairly cheering me up in these bleak times. :-)
i'm asian, come from a rather affluent background, well educated, never lived in the uk, loved oasis and still do. i'm clear example this article is shite and rightfully debunked.
I am someone who has spread my musical canvas very far and wide. I saw Maurizio Pollini play the Liszt B Minor Piano Sonata from memory at an amazing concert at London's Queen Elizabeth Hall. I saw Oasis play the second of two nights at Wembley Stadium when Liam Gallagher was having, it's fair to say, a bad day. I also saw the second of two nights at Knebworth in 1996, when Liam Gallagher (and Noel) were having not just a great day but perhaps THE great day for Britpop. The whole REASON why we are having this debate is because of the strength of charisma and unique musicality of the Gallagher brothers between them. The song, Acquiesce, as we all know, sums that up perfectly. Whether Noel meant it to be about that or not, that's what it's about. I know what it's like for them because I have recorded in a band with my brother for 33 years. I know how difficult it can be, and I also know that I cannot live without it. What has happened to Liam and Noel through articles like that by Price has been happening to rock stars since the days of Elvis Presley, who was called evil, racist slurs being applied to him by writers from the deep south who, at the time, were still openly able to condone African Americans sitting at the back of the bus and being tied to a tree by cowardly white men covered in white sheets. Is this any different? Maybe in content, but certainly not in tone. When someone achieves a certain level, there are always those jealous, carping, twittering little individuals who want to be a part of it not by joining in but by slagging them off. They get more attention that way. x
I was born in the North of England in the early 70's loved Oasis, the Manics and all things grunge, but not only them I like to many bands to mention here, I think your rebuttal of Simon Price is spot on, he is one of these whiny, snivelling, elitist snobs that contributes nothing to anything positive and only tries to bolster his own inadequacies by pulling someone else down.
14 million people spoke James. We spoke and broke the internet. These people will always be out there. I take no notice I’ll be in Dublin next year with 80k people singing every word just like the good aul days
I read the article yesterday or the day before. I roared with laughter - the amount of people trying to get tickets proves Price wrong. The Guardian is a comic - I only read the culture section and love the negative reviews, it usually means something is good. Gatekeepers who are losing their power in the age of the internet.
James, thank you for this video. I also read this article and was outraged by it. I didn't grow up working class and lived quite well. What I loved about Oasis was simply the music. As a young man I was quite politically Conservative and now I am more left wing working on the minimum wage in a different circumstance.Throughout I have enjoyed Oasis's music and everything Liam has ever done. Politics is not important for me but I don't like being branded a reform voter on the basis of my music taste. It is thoroughly ridiculous. I don't have a big body of evidence but I imagine that Oasis fans range from the left to the right and the apathetic too. We all just love the music and want to celebrate that Oasis are back.
I was incensed by this article tbh. Its just immature whiny pettiness for the sole reason that something he dislikes is popular. Your take sounds bang on to me.
About 5 years ago i was going to top myself. One night i was ready to go out and jump from a bridge. For some reason, before i left the house, i felt i needed some "going out" music - almost like a Saturday night on the town. I chose (of all the thousands of records in my collections, from Flying Lotus back to Beethoven and beyond) the first record that really, truly connected with me: Definitely Maybe. I remember lying on the sofa with head in my hands when Live Forever came on. And that was that. That song - a song about (in the words of Alex Niven) "retaining hope in your darkest moments" changed my mind. I spent the rest of the night with my guitar playing along with it. And when the morning came i had resolved to LIVE, as hard as i could, to feel every moment as a gift.
I read the Price article. I wonder if such people really know that theyre alive. One day we'll all be gone and none of this will matter.
I am disappointed with the Ticketmaster fiasco, and even with the ticket prices (i had hoped for less than £100 for general admission standing), but Oasis saved my life. THAT is the power of those songs.
I will love them forever.
Keep going my son, best comment on here by a mile.
Thanks for sharing that. Pinned.
Well done, man. Life is short, precious and 100% you are right, we'll all be gone and noone will remember us
hear hear mate
@@MassiveCatLittleLegs THAT is the power of music. You were at home, readying yourself for what would have been the Last night of your life, when some instinct that you, as a music fan , kicked in. A need to listen to an album.
"Should I stay of should I Go Now?", was the question in mind as the music played, but as you said, the sudden urge to play along to Live Forever naturally found its way in, and let back in that will to keep going. And- I like too , how you said that you wanted to listen to music before you were gonna leave the house that nite:: I think that was a part of you that somehow "knew" that music would infact impact the night ahead.
You had a will, a wanting to listen to something. Your mind wanted to get you something to reconnect, rework things. And it did, with that song that nite. Fantastic story, mate. Thank YOU for sharing. 🤘🤘🤘🤘👍
As Noel said in the 90s we never made music for guardian readers
It's clearly made for Sun readers.
Bay City Rollers with slightly louder guitars.
@@nonalien-l1n I don’t think he said that part.
@@nonalien-l1n It's made for the working class and anyone else who appreciates the same kind of music. It's clearly not for you, you snooty sneering pompous little...
Simon Price spent a lot of time trying to be an important player in the Brighton music scene. I spent some time in the same scene (first as a friend of a band and then as a member of a band) and he was only ever interested in getting to know female members of bands. Having never met him myself I can only relay this information, and cannot say anything factually about him, but the impression I got was that he desperately wanted to be a key part of something that didn’t really need him in the first place.
Simon the Superfluous
Almost not surprised by any of that given the look of the guy. far be it from me to judge a book by its cover, but he's outed himself enough that article to show me he's nothing more than snobby c**t.
He's a music journo, nuff said.
What? He liked femaleS?
@@thefuturist8864 thought he,d be into men look at the clip of it 😗😗
i’m convinced that anyone who complains about Oasis using “simple chords” is a deeply frustrated songwriter who is annoyed that Noel could create such iconic tunes without having any advanced grip on musical theory
agreed. They are posers that took some time in their lives to learn a "tricky bit" and now feel above everyone else but cant find anyone giving them credit
They’re the same people who complain about the Edge playing stadiums. They see musicianship as a sport rather than an art form.
@@104ist he didn't create them, though. He copied them and made a fortune.
@@nonalien-l1n tell me what song Live Forever is a copy of? same with Wonderwall? Slide Away? they sound pretty original to me
@@104ist What about all the other songs he blatantly did rip off?
I am a lower middle class dude from the USA, I have lived in the uk for about 20 years…I love them.
Fair enough, and I'm with ya brov!
What is lower middle class over there? Here it would be bank managers and the sort.
It’s the Guardian, they detest anything that appeals to British working class people
"Cue wild celebrations from the section of the British public who are still nostalgic for the simpler times of Euro 96 and the first Blair administration. Britpop's coming home."
SO WHAT?
Greetings from Croatia.
They detest anything that aids in giving the British working class a voice and an identity beyond being feckless serfs.
That's why Owen Jones writes for them.
Thank you James for another well thought out and researched video.
In my opinion, my fellow commenters don’t need to insult Simon’s appearance, because your words say it all.
As a gay Oasis fan that grew up in that very Northern banter-filled culture, I feel greatly offended by the article, and I thank you again for employing logic to dismantle it once and for all.
Can’t wait for the Reunion now!
@@danshiers If Simon Price sees fit to insult every last working class, music fan that likes Oasis, not just in Britain but across the entire planet, the national flag of Great Britain and furthermore, legendary musicians who have praised Oasis and Noel Gallaghers prowess as one of the greatest songwriters around, since they broke in 94 to this very day, then he should be more than ready for people to quite rightly make the obvious assessment that he is a chubby old clown, desperately trying and failing to look “punk” at that age, whilst being about as far away from punk as it’s possible to be. He’s writing this piece in the Guardian and as we all know, attacks on white working class Brits are an everyday occurrence in that shitrag of a newspaper, as it serves as nothing more than a propaganda rag for the marxist agenda, playing it’s role in trying to destroy national pride and crush the spirits of those unfortunate enough to absorb any of the putrid lies they spread every single day.
You're very welcome 🍻👍
@@danshiers wot a great comment ❤️❤️❤️
Yeah I also grew up in the north and gay, I remember buying supersonic on 7 inch vinyl and thinking it was the best slice of guitar pop attitude I’d heard in years, sexy and swaggering, full of menace and melody, and then the album came out and you just couldn’t believe it, like a singles collection more than a debut album, and I was 28 when DM came out, lord knows what it was like if you were 14! Anyway, this video was a great deconstruction of prices arguments, very offensive notions of working class culture, the dog whistle that everyone’s ignorant and homophobic, yes such things exist of course, as they do within any walk of life, but my close family and friends - all from a pretty rough council estate in north east England - were utterly cool and supportive when I came out, and this was at the height of the AIDS hysteria of the 80’s, so no small thing. It’s astonishing as well that price is banging on about homophobia and is such a huge manics fan, yes the manics did flirt with homoerotic imagery etc, I’m a huge fan and was at the time as well, ditto suede, ditto pulp, but price casually leaves out the fact that Nicky and richey made very very crass, insulting and overtly homophobic comments, the infamous Michael stipe comment, the take down of Freddie mercury as one who ‘deserved’ to die of AIDS for leading a promiscuous lifestyle, all on record, just Google it, or check out you tube. Now with the manics there statements were always somewhere between the profound and to make you think, and other times purely to shock, but they were at the time never remotely apologetic, where as when Noel made the infamous comment about Damon and AIDS, he apologised in the next breath, but the journalist printed in any case. As I say, I love the manics and Nicky wire is genuinely repentant and embarrassed about a lot of his comments when he was in his early 20’s, but I always got where they were coming from, I never thought they hated gay people, they were pushing buttons, and with oasis, it’s lairy banter as you say, it’s not and never is as simple as price suggests, working class people are complex, nuance is not after all indigenous to middle class intellectual aesthetes who read the guardian. As for the stuff about Jeremy Corbyn, you have to laugh, because few newspapers stabbed JC more in the back than the supposedly left wing guardian, who attacked him as much as the daily mail did! A very sad article. I saw oasis 7 times during their initial lifespan, the best being at a freezing cold ice rink in the north east in early 1996 as they were right on the cusp of going nuclear, Noel has done great work on his own and his last album was one of his best sets of songs ever, I think he’s said yes to a reunion simply because he’d like to rock out again in a way in which he just can’t with the birds, and why not, it’s a catalogue of songs worth celebrating. Don’t let the doom sayers like Simon price set the narrative. Where was he while we were getting high?
Queer migrant here. Oasis is literally the soundtrack to my life. 😭 Great post!
Simon Fowler from OCS is gay. No one knew apart from his band and some close friends (Weller, Liam & Noel etc). Not even his parents knew. He was outed by the sun in an appalling manner. They did a double page spread, and the whole tome of it was "we've got him!". The incident was incredibly distressing to Fowler and his long term partner, who was so shaken up that he almost lost his life in a horrific car crash.
According to Simon Fowlers book, the first thing Liam dud when he next saw him was give him a bug kiss on the lips in front of a load of people.
Liam might have said so horrible things, but theres a difference between being thoughtless and malicious.
There's a very good recent thread on Twitter of Liam being an LGBT ally, try to find it. However, I looked up some of Noel's comments on trans people and it was absolutely disgusting.
@@biconditionals let's be honest. You probably think anything but complete obedience when it comes to trans people is 'absolutely disgusting'.
@@biconditionals Trans people make horrendous comments too. One Twitter user used to collect them b4 being banned.
Sounds like Simon Price wasn't invited to the Oasis party years ago and he remembered that now.
@@williamking4599 busy that night fellating the Manics.
Actually he was there, mates with the manics, the levellers and quite a few others. I disagree with dismissing the opinion of someone who was there, however, its only his view of it, it's like gary bushell wrote in one of his books about oi "i'm not responsible for what your band mates said about you".
I can't see what's wrong with the article. Noel has never had a problem slagging people off. Remember how he crept round Blair?@@lewisb85
Natch.
@@lewisb85 you don't even know what I'm on about
I'm bisexual and I've never felt unsafe or unwelcome in the Oasis fan community. I always hate articles like this as they are performative, only there for clicks and makes it harder to call out actual homophobia, biphobia, transphobia whenever it happens.
You can't call out _actual_ things that don't exist.
So if the Gallaghers throw around terms like ''batty boy'', how is that not 'actual homophobia'?
@@stellajayneIt’s flippant and a joke? Who cares.
@@stellajayne There's a difference between being an idiot and using certain words but then apologizing for it compared to those who actually have hate in their hearts
@@folksurvivaloh look someone with their head up their ass. Dude you can’t ignore any of that shit when it happens. That’s like ignoring racism and saying it doesn’t exist.
What a rube, and weird too
I have not seen the internet as joyous and together as it was last week.
Young girls, old women and men, young lads, all races and religion, cultures, worldwide, sexuality. That is something to celebrate.
Price is so bitter.
Exactly, this week has been a historical one for Oasis fans.
Until we found out they'd opted in for dynamic pricing.
"Wealthy young girls, wealthy old women and wealthy men, wealthy young lads, wealthy of all races and religion, cultures, worldwide, sexuality. That is something for the wealthy to celebrate."
ftfy
Oasis are masculine and that is what he really has a problem with.
Bingo!
War against Britishness
War against patriotism
War against the working classes
War against straightness
War against masculinity
Anyone fancy a Greggs? 😉
@@1312Johnnywe're fighting this on the other side of the Atlantic too but replace British with American.
Masculine?
Oasis?
Come off it. Their entire appeal is based on portraying a hideous homoerotic caricature of working class boys for the self-gratification of middle class boys who think they’re edgy by listening to music by some rough trade. From leafy Burnage.
THIS.
Saw him at Big City fest in Glasgow. Overheard him talking to people and can confirm he is a snobby bastard
He would not have been hired by the Guardian if he wasn't a snobby bastard. Everyone that works for them is.
The last time I heard him, just like here, he used a lie mixed with truth. He’s a man of will, but he has no taste.
He’s the kid everyone ignored at school
@@JJPwfellinot Owen ‘shagger Jones! I seen him at Milwall away and the lads a proper mentalist!
He done six bushwackers with headbutts alone!!!
Or it could have been someone else…
a sure sign of massive insecurity, which given his overcompensations visually makes total sense
I’m a bisexual member of the Labour Party and I can’t wait to see Oasis live. I despise discrimination of any kind INCLUDING classism. That of which this article is littered with.
I'm neither but agree 100%. Cannot stand snobbery inverted or otherwise. Can't wait for Liam to blast out RnR Star at the first gig and blow the naysayers away. 😂
@@mcshadypies it’s going to be such a good gig I can’t fucking wait
@@MrYoungarmy same here mate. 👍
You rock.
The article was accusing Noel Gallagher of being a nationalist for daring to have a Union Jack inspired guitar at a time of Cool Britannia almost 30 fucking years ago and as a nod to his love of all things mods, Weller etc. Are we going to accuse Geri Halliwell of being a nationalist for her Union Jack dress? Worrying sign of the times when "journalists" like these have a platform. Insane that loving your country apparently makes you a right wing nationalist extremist now.
We all know the problem is one of classism - The Gallaghers aren't the type to just accept their place and be deferential , are they afraid of working class people being inspired by that and not going along with the current narrative?
Even if true, there's nothing wrong with being a nationalist and nothing wrong with being right wing
@@georgecase5908 couldn’t agree more mate.
It's not just classism - it's selective classism. You just know these people would be the first to call you out on racism or whatever if you criticised drill music. They just hate working class people who still have respect for their nation
@@georgecase5908 Absolutely you are right. The problem/irony here is the article writer accuses Oasis and their fans of being pre-historic relics with intolerant views (which is flat-out wrong) whilst simultaneously and ironically being intolerant of Oasis and their fans with disparaging remarks and inaccurate statements.
In France it is the same thing, French Flag is racist now
The British media is so classist. I think it comes from the fact that Oasis grew up in council flats and now have more money than these leeches could ever dream of getting their hands on.
the guardian likes to pretend they care about the working class people, but the reality is they hate them and look down on them, especially if they make it out of the working class.
@@ads2686100%. Hateful rag.
@@ads2686 That's rubbish. Who's sneering at Angela Rayner all the time? Who did elaborate deceptions to take out John Alford and Tulisa Constavalos for getting above their station? Who was always banging on about Bob Crowe living in a council house? It's the Right that does this stuff.
Simon Price is from a working class background in South Wales, and certainly hasn't achieved middle class material status.
I read the same article and immediately looked up the author. His picture below it says it all.
Exactly!
I disagree with the original author, but going after their appearance only brings you down to their level, in my opinion.
@@joshtn145 I almost get that however people who say that appearances don’t matter are also the ones who tell their children that first impressions are paramount.
You can tell a lot about people from appearances, even more so these days and we all know what I mean by that.
You're not helping the author's case by saying that
Love how you just committed one of those fallacies yourself.
Do you have any self awareness?
Simon Price literally has a hammer and sickle tattoo on his upper arm, directly above a tattoo of the Welsh dragon. So it’s alright for him to have a symbol of pride for his nation but not for people to have Union Jacks ? And as for the hammer and sickle, well…. It’s not like we didn’t know he was a communist without seeing that tattoo. The irony of the man.
Having an hammer and sickle on your arm is literally as bad as having a sw*stika. Both regimes tortured and killed millions. Just different end of the political spectrum.
Lol at you calling him a communist.
@@stellajayne Lol at the rest of your comments, desperately trying and failing to find reasons to defend this commie bell end. My favourite one is you accusing the Gallaghers of being homophobes because Liam called someone a batty boy 😂 Now you’re trying to insinuate that a guy with a hammer and sickle with the communist star tattooed on him isn’t a communist ? Not the sharpest are you Stella ?
Oasis are more communists than him. You can't be a communist and hate the working class of your country.
@@stellajayne Lol at you lol'ing at someone for accurately identifying a tatooed commie.
He was " THAT " kid in school , we all knew one .
The one we whipped with wet towels when his mum forgot to write his excuse to not do games? Yeah I knew him
Ad hominem
@@dandronemoan4041He can take it
You mean the kid you should have taken some time out to know/ care for? Knuckle draggers as the man said.
The one who would say « Pleaed to meet you, hope you guessed my name. »
I wouldn’t wipe my arse with the Guardian. It would offend my arse.
100%. Anyone who betters themselves is hated by the left. Bunch of jealous bastards.
Your arse is very easily offended, which is a sign of the times...
@@nonalien-l1nSnowflakes have sensitive arses.
@@nonalien-l1n are you reading this persons arse’s mind, or projecting? Only the latter is logical, psychologically speaking, the former being magical thinking.
@@Dude0000 It wasn't me who suggested that an arse can have emotional responses to being wiped with a newspaper.
The author of that article looks EXACTLY how you’d expect
And that’s how? Let me guess, you don’t like anyone who doesn’t dress in bucket hats and kagools. Another homophobe dinosaur with music tastes as dates as his views.
exactly.
Juden
Probably think he's a woman
and commenting on their appearance only plays into what Price has to say about Oasis fans.
"The music press are people who can't write, interviewing people who can't speak, for people who can't read. " Frank Zappa.
The world is in a minor key these days. We need a major key.
Dare I say most of us live in a Dorian flat 5 world
@@GamerGod_99you may 🎉
D minor, the saddest key of all. Lick my love pump.
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Makes a lot of sence
It’s as simple as this: Negative headlines/articles get more clicks
If you dont like oasis you dont have to get involved simple
That’s fair enough. A lot of Oasis fans whinge about other bands and artists too though tbf, so it goes both ways.
Exactly. Lefties are trying to cancel the band.
@@jonathanmarkham1998 Every fanbase does that to a degree. But people can't hold everyone accountable because of the actions of one or two.
He just feels like existing disliking Oasis, which is not even sure..
Yup. .but neither should their very careful PR and hype promotion fir this tour, be masquerading as major national news.
Like most of the people who write for the Guardian, this clown is an ideologue.
We're having a new ideology forced on us at the moment, and part of that process involves destroying the old order.
So, when anything from the past re-emerges that doesn't fit the new ideology, these ideologues can't compute it, and they hate it because it challenges their world view. Hence the attack.
It's partly because this new ideology has nothing to offer that people still crave Oasis. They represent something that the guardian and it's readers have tried to suppress.
It's not a new ideology. Red Fascism has been around a long time.
@@JJPwfelli it's called communism, not fascism, you know nothing about fascism clearly
That’s a lot of words to say ‘I’m a right-wing nationalist who can’t get over that the Tories lost’.
Oasis aren’t a political movement and this Price bloke shouldn’t have tried to make them one, but let’s not get confused - nationalism, political corruption and hierarchy do need to be crushed. That’s a totally reasonable ideology if you’re a fucking human being. Unlike this one, most Guardian articles at least call a spade a spade - Tories and Reform are corrupt fascists and they have duped too many working class people just because they appeal to a nationalist, anti-immigration stance.
@@wavell14Just because it wears a hammer and sickle, it doesn't mean it's not fascistic in nature. Totalitarians don't give a damn about your interpretation of their favoured ideological dystopia. They just insist that you comply or die.
@@wavell14you know nothing about the realities of marxism. Marxism was the foundation of all varieties of fascism. If you want me to call that totalitarianism marxist hellscape they had in the Soviet Union 'socialism' or 'left wing' I refuse. It was exactly the same as fascism. Hence it is Red Fascism. Socialism is something entirely different than marxism. Read some books please.
I'll just leave this here. "Support acts at Knebworth included The Chemical Brothers, Ocean Colour Scene, Manic Street Preachers and The Prodigy."
Indeed. Noel was always into dance music, OCS had a gay singer (and a black drummer) and Simon Price's beloved Manics were starting to gain a lot of traction around '96.
If the manics support in Cardiff he will melt
@@paulmblythe43 I hope they do, in fact there was never an issue between the manics and oasis. Manics even encouraged the super furries to go to creation due to how well they were treating oasis.
@@lewisb85and the Super Furries themselves supported and got on well with Oasis
@@lewisb85SFA supported Oasis and got on really well with them too.
"I'm a Commie and because the English Working Class haven't turned out to be Commies like me, I hate them and anything they hold dear is puerile."
Condensed Price' article into something easier to read.
'And because the working class have betrayed us we must replace them with a new 'proletariat' made up of sexual, racial, and religious minorities to use as our battering ram to bring about the socialist utopia.'
calling him a communist is just as lazy as the article
@@toddpacker4683 he would almost certainly describe himself as one...
@@toddpacker4683 Even if he did think he's a communist, he isn't. He's actually just a boring liberal who affirms bourgeois individualism. 'Traditional' marxists would have regarded the replacement of a class-based revolution by individualised sexual liberation (of the sort this half-witted journalist affirms) as an absolute abomination...
Like we're all so one dimensional, I bought His N Hers by Pulp, Holy Bible by MSP and Definitely Maybe the day they all came out in 1994, so there's no Oasis fans who like any other bands? I was well into the Manics and Pulp, Holy Bible being Richey's last stand and His n hers being when after years in the wilderness Pulp got massive.
At the peak of my Oasis fandom in the '90s, I was listening to all the other major Britpop bands as well as American alt-rock, hip-hop and synthpop. Not all of us were just listening to Oasis, The Stone Roses and The Beatles endlessly.
Same. Oasis, Blur, Pulp, Manics, Suede, Supergrass, Boo Radleys, Dodgy, Kula Shaker and all while listening to Beatles, Stones, Bowie, Sex Pistols, Clash, Smiths, Stone Roses etc.
I will admit, Oasis did garner a subset of fans who weren’t particularly into music before and some who had migrated from the dance music scene. But making out as if everyone who was listening to Oasis was some sort of regressive Neanderthal is pretty disgusting.
Even as a German I used to have a Union Jack sticker on the trunk of my old Rover 400 back in the day. I guess that makes me a right wing British nationalist too?
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He looks as if a marshmallow dressed up as Keith Flint for Halloween
That’s an insult to Keith Flint (RIP)😢
And herein lies the problem with the core Oasis fan that anyone who doesn’t fit the mould of your Brit world view should be mocked. Simon Peice is a very well respected and educated journalist with more brain on his little finger than you have in your entire head. But go ahead mock his looks. Some of us are more concerned with his spot on view of a dinosaur of a band.
"more brain on his little finger" You are not the sharpest tool are you? 🤔
If you are going to insult millions of people, implying they're not very bright, I would *start* from a place of intelligence? Or have you got "brain on your little finger"? 😄 🙄
@@MovieTrailerDatabase Simon is an attention-seeking midwit.
@@MovieTrailerDatabase His entire atricle not only mocks the band but the people who follow them, and you just did that, too - so come down from your high horse, you do not belong there.
The guardian is utter trash on every level.
After over two decades of reading the Guardian most days of the week I gave up on them in 2016. A bunch of arrogant bullsh1t merchants.
There are few areas I agree with Nigel Farage, but his use of the term "Metropolitan Liberal elite" is bang on the money. Smugness and condescension is in the DNA of Guardian pseudo-journalists.
The Guardian was founded in 19th century Manchester by snobbish factory owners. They've hated ordinary people from the start.
The Guardian was founded in 19th century Manchester by snobbish factory owners. They've hated ordinary people from the start.
The output of ALL mainstream media is tightly controlled by the elites. It's just that the different papers use differing tactics depending on their target demographic. The Sun is no better or worse than the Guardian, the effective manipulation of the reader is all that matters.
I’m an Oasis fan. That article is warped bollocks, but the Gallaghers have blown any credibility by allowing dynamic pricing on their tickets. Their younger selves would surely hate them for what they’ve done. A total cash-grab corporate sell-out.
Totally agreed
I agree with this completely. For all of their working class credentials, they're certainly acting like the middle class millionaires they are now.
@@thekissofvenus5711 well that was the main criticism of Knebworth back in the day still remember that guy in the bbc documentary "supposed to be working class lads from manchester, lower the prices lads"
@lewisb85 Weren't the tickets for Knebworth about £22.50? (A CD at the time cost £16) For that price you got Oasis in their prime and a whole slew of excellent support acts. Adjusted for inflation that would be about £47 in today's money? That's still far cheaper than what the cheapest tickets are for this lot of shows, and nobody knows which incarnation of Oasis are gonna be playing!
If you think Noel wouldn't have happily rinsed fans back in the day, you don't know Noel. Business is business.
A lot of people have commented along the lines of 'What to you expect from the Guardian...' They also published a piece by Barbara Ellen, possibly on the same day, which strongly counters articles in the vein of Simon Price's.
Yes. Great article. She got to the bottom of it.
Absolutely. For and against, exactly like people say they want newspapers to be like. And it's polemic, like lots of pop writing has always been.
Noel Gallagher said on an interview that he liked Jay-Z, all the stuff he said about Glastonbury was because he was trying to protect the genre.
But Glastonbury never was a pure guitar rock festival. Back in the Nineties, it had many hip hop, techno, electronica, drum‘n‘bass acts on the bill as well.
The irony of these elitist attacks on Oasis fans is that these gigs, with their insane ticket prices, will be even more middle-class than Glastonbury.
You're comment does imply that Working Class People are all by definition poor, which really isn't a trueism. Class is not these days defined by bank balance as it might once have been, it's the background you came from. I'm not having a pop, honestly! I do agree the pricing policy and the ability for tickets to double in price because of demand is unacceptable. You wouldn't pick up the last bottle of wine in a shop that's £7.99 and the checkout person say 'That's £12.99 now because everybody liked it and wanted some'. That's actually against consumer law in the UK, the original 'Shelf Price' is what has to be paid. Sadly it was that 'Man Of The People' Bruce Springsteen who brought in this policy, it was a wrong-headed attempt to beat the touts which has backfired spectacularly. Ticketmaster are the real c*nts in this scenario.
yeah because all working class people can't afford to spend money on anything. No working class people ever spend a good couple of grand taking their families on holiday in the summer. Also £150 for standing & £70 fir seating ain't exactly over the top. it was the people in charge of the tour who allowed ticketmaster to pull that price rises.
@@charliecoutts3003It might not be as true as it once was but let’s be honest, you’re less likely to have 500 quid for a pair of tickets despite the cohort of “made good” who still identify as working class. It’s hardly a fallacy.
Debbie’s sister is a lesbian for god sake and has been in his tour group of friends for 8 years. Geri halliwell wore a Union Jack dress. Were the spice girls national front?
James - this guy is OBSESSED with Oasis!? When I had twitter a few years back, I came across him and he was spewing the same mental crap then! He has this warped view and agenda against Oasis whilst thinking the Manics are the greatest band of all time. He's stalker level obsessed with hatred.... really weird.
Oh dear…
The guys a nonce.
I went to a private school and I love Oasis, so that blows that argument out of the water. I loved them so much I bought their CDs before I even had a player. The guy who wrote the article wouldn't know a decent song if it hit him over the head.
General rule in life - the guardian is great for 2 things - fire fuel & toilet paper
I don't recommend the online edition for toilet paper.
It's actually 100% recycled toilet paper, I'd have you know. Must dash, my private jet is waiting.
What is it with guardian journalists having to explain how they are really MORE working class than the working class person they are about to eviscerate?
I have never claimed to be an oasis fan. I find myself disliking them quite often. But I would never disparage them or their fans. One thing that really annoys me is when people forget one thing, music is SUBJECTIVE, oasis were and still are one of the biggest cultural draws to Britain and something that should be applauded. I just wish people would understand that. Like I said, personally I'm not a fan. But I honestly think british music would be very poor without them. The history is just fascinating.
Ironic, isn't it? Those who scream loudest for diversity and inclusivity are the quickest to throw hate-balls at those who don't share their opinions.
Inclusivity? It means "every voice is welcome, _without_ exception".
Thank you for making these videos.❤
I never had any Oasis albums. Even so, I respect their music. His quote, "Oasis' funkless, sexless plod is carefully pitched below the velocity...is there anything more useless than a rock band that doesn't rock?" shows he knows nothing about rock. The Beatles, Sabbath, Pixies and countless other seminal bands mostly didn't play fast. Their brilliance came from playing "in the pocket". Playing lots of notes, faster does not make it rock harder or better!
I used to live near Noel. Had a drink with him once. He was very humble and unassuming. Nice guy. I'm not a big Oasis fan, but they did have moments of brilliance. I hate this crap.
There have been plenty of pro oasis articles in The Guardian in recent weeks. It's just a story that's written to get hits. This video is helping.
It's an opinion piece in a newspaper. From one guy - not the voice of the paper. Other opinions have been offered. In the meantime this story has gone viral and this guy's laughing all the way to the bank.
In the meantime, how do we defend them opting in for dynamic pricing?
at least he can now afford a hairdresser
I don't get your point. It's acknowledged as an opinion piece and the video is an alternative opinion. On a deeper level it's an exploration of the hatred the likes of the guardian have for working class people as that's the real opinion of the article.
@@nicksmith4340 the point is that it isn't the editorial opinion of the Guardian and people have been responding to the video as if it is. There have been plenty of opinion pieces in The Guardian - this week and otherwise - praising the band and its cultural impact. Instead there's loads of 'I hate The Guardian' comments (like your own) that are acting like the Guardian is all about cutting them down.
Ironically there actually is something to criticise Oasis for now - their use of dynamic pricing - but that can be saved for another article.
@@michaeldallaway1988 The Guardian are pure & utter shite
Their music is great, but charging your fans £150 standing rising to £350 on dynamic tickets is pretty disgusting. If they truly loved the fans and this wasn't a money grab then they'd cap the prices(like paul heaton does) and announce more dates....doesn't look like they've done that....
Hi James I’d love to see you do something about Slade’s influence on Oasis. I hear more Slade than Beatles in a lot of their songs, especially WTSMG era.
I agree, I think the Beatles influence on the first two albums is a bit overstated. A lot of glam rock in there (Slade, T. Rex, and unfortunately Gary Glitter on "Hello")
and frankly, also Sex Pistols influences
Bit abba .hot chocolate aswell .
Another cracking piece of modern journalism. Easy to see why journalists are so popular nowadays ;). Excellent response, James.
As I said to a friend recently, who was dealing with someone snobbishly criticising Oasis for no valid reason:
“Anyone who hates Oasis really just hates themselves.”
As an Oasis fan I appreciate this article. Its exactly the sort of beefy piece you used to get in the NME in the 80s, the same UK which created Oasis. By calling it offensive you're part of the problem. Noel and Liam shouldn't have to play nice and neither should their critics.
Fantastic, well addressed , and nicely articulated. Im Irish, and fully understand what you said about the sort of 'piss taking, slagging off'' style of terms of endearment that, the right circle of friends in the right places say to eachother. Its all in jolting jests, jibes and jubilation. It is the very same where Im from, the same sort of small town, or smaller village scene where young lads bond in the same manner as you mentioned. Good on you lad, for standing up for things here. I also found the 'Logical Fallacy' theories fascinating, and want to look up more about that in general.
I bought my son Whats the story Morning Glory on cd back in 1996 ( I think) it became the background to our holiday that year with us all singing/ yelling as we drove around South Wales, good times an memories. Though I’m not a massive oasis fan , I’m an old Led Zeppelin, c ure, Smiths, Jam , Clash fan, I can’t appreciate why people do like them. I’m absolutely made up for all those Oasis fans that will get the chance to see them again or for the first time and hope it all goes well for them and the band.
Misery loves company.
That article is offensive.
Price VERY obviously had an agenda, and that was "Make Shit Up to Fit My Narrative"
Price mentions Manic Street Preachers. I'd wager the Manics and Oasis are closer than some would think. Sure the Manics were more intellectual maybe, but I feel both sang songs about working class empowerment. Nicky Wire has often spoken fondly of Oasis, and there's a brilliant half-hour conversation between Nicky Wire and Noel on TH-cam, the two of them sharing war stories from the 90s when the 2 bands played together.
All the people whining since the reunion was announced feel like they're attention-seeking. I've seen so many "Am I the only one who doesn't care about Oasis?" posts on social media, it's pathetic.
I grew up listening to Oasis, they were the first "proper" band (i.e. not a pop group) I got into. I am certainly not a flag-shagging reform voter. I grew up and those songs still resonate with adult me as they did teenage me. One of my favourite moments from going to a gig, was getting to see Noel do an unadvertised solo set in 1998 supporting Paul Weller (It was basically announced on the day of the show and I got lucky getting tickets). It was in Newport Centre just after Oasis had finished touring Be Here Now. Next time Oasis toured again it was all stadiums.
As it goes, I voted for Labour when Corbyn was leader, so I'm more left-wing than Noel is, who at best, can be called a centrist based on his support of Tony Blair back then. The entire sentiment when Oasis emerged and their rise, was riding that feeling that years of Tory rule in the UK was coming to an end and things were about to start getting better. That's not how Price has tried to paint Oasis and their fans.
There was a similar one in The Independent where they carried the headline "Oasis Tour Will Be the Taylor Swift Eras Tour for Middle-Aged Straight Men" or roughly that. Couldn't get past the the first paragraph without smiling at the idea of this journo being so threatened by Oasis being 'too white, too male' essentially. (And the headline was also plain wrong about the age group thing -- it'll be full of 20s to 30s at the gigs, mainly.)
I mean anybody who has been to see noel gallaghers high flying birds or liam gallagher would know the they place is always full of fucking thousands of people under 30 and a shitload under 21.
@@ads2686 Exactly. It's just the MSM can't resist bashing their least favourite demographic. i.e. white; heterosexual; males. And the Oasis re-union represents a threat to their dream ideal of a big soviet blob of nothingness.
Just yesterday I was speaking with a friend who doesn’t like Oasis and rattling off reasons why She’s Electric is a genius composition and a perfect pop rock recording. Wish I had seen this video first, your explanation nailed it.
It's the guardian, every opinion piece is basically , 'If you're feeling happy, here's why you shouldn't be'
The fact Oasis have just sold out ALL of their 17 stadium sized shows in record time says it all.
As a casual Oasis fan, I just had a feeling this reunion would rustle someone’s undies. The world was a tougher and more self reliant place in 1994.
Let this Simon journalist have his say and move on. Stop crying your heart out…
I feel lad culture is working class culture pretty much every where. I am Italian and the banter is always there and signifies strong bond
Hey James, I've adored your channel for the past few years now and rarely comment on anyone's vids on youtube but would just like to say thankyou for this one, appreciate it. Keep doing and loving what you love to do and listen to and vibe with lad
Im only 13 mins in and already this video is an exquisitely done dismantling of that horrendous hit piece. Stellar job James 👏👏
When Blur announced in 2022 that they would play a sold-out Wembley show in 2023, Simon Price called it pretentious and completely wrong, when given their career and history, their fans deserved it, as did the people of London, who have loved them for many years.
This Oasis reunion after more than 15 years of hiatus is a gift to long-time fans, and a gift to those who were not alive or had no idea how big Oasis was in the UK at its peak.
I loved your point, James, saying that Simon is a half-baked politician and loves a damn clickbait, and you are right, because what he does is offend fans of bands who do not agree with his political stance.
As a die-hard Blur fan, I've seen them and Oasis in concert here in South America, and I'd love to see Manic Street Preachers in concert one day.
I love Manic Street Preachers, as a fan of Blur and Oasis, I think their album "Everything Must Go" is a masterpiece and the best album of 1996, but even the Manics, who are loved by Mr. Price, would not agree with this nonsense he is spreading.
And I hope that on the dates in Wales, the Gallaghers will call either the Manics or Stereophonics.
I'll go far, today all the musicians from the 90s are fathers and husbands, and have children, and are already much more evolved as people, what he is saying makes no sense, terrible article.
Nem li
Excellent video James. I always come here, and in the past, to get good balanced Oasis stories.
Sounds like Blur vs Oasis 2024. I was called a knuckle dragger at work in 1995 by a snooty Blur fan.
Simon Price hates Blur, but I understand that he doesn't like many bands in the genre apart from Manic Street Preachers, remembering that there are many snobbish fans, not only of Blur, but of Oasis or Pulp too, but most Britpop bands were very united.
@@brunomiranda2029 The Oasis v Blur battle of 1995 was my Vietnam. Some mornings I wake up thinking I'm still in the Jungle of 1995
Oasis and Blair who now is with the WEF of Klaus Schwab. Blair shouldn't be allowed in the same sentence when it comes to Oasis. Personally and I'm 62 now, still love Oasis. And nothing I read or to what others say will ever change my mind.
A very Sisyphean task to try and find a thread of logic in that article. He's just angry that the vast majority of people are not spiteful mutants like himself. The thing is, he'll always be angry because that will never change.
People who get upset by mean words really shouldn’t be Oasis fans! The Gallaghers have always been outspoken. They broke through at a time when we still had freedom of speech in the UK, but since the introduction of so called ‘hate speech’ legislation, freedom of speech has disappeared.
If you find it offensive, just roll with it
I’m communist, brazillian and an Oasis fan. Got in a relationship with a trans person and I’m an Oasis fan. Therefore I do understand a little bit, cause I’m a “woke” and a ploretarian, subjudging others like that isn’t constructive for anyone. Great vídeo, James!
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RIP General Pinochet
@@wavell14 pinochet is in Chile bro. And still, for us here, "rust in h3ll" is a better approach for him. The most brutal dictatorship in South America
@@wavell14 rip Stalin
Lest we forget.
Liams tour manager, Amy. Is gay. Argument over, pricey.
I can't believe the amount of crap being spoutted.. Even some rubbish in Ireland too.. Great work James, I hope the boys see this ☘️
Enjoy the next year 🎉
In 2021, ABBA reformed, thus distracting the attention of millions of Australians away from the dystopian tyranny unfolding in their land, (so loved were that group by Australians.)
In 2024, Oasis reform in Britain...
I regret that this was precisely my reaction to the Oasis reunion tour.
Blair will feature on the political scene & ghastly happenings off will be drowned out by the feel good hysteria of late 2025, when the tour is on.
I hope I’m wrong but I’m almost certain that I’m not.
@@GT380man Lots of people are going to enjoy the concerts, lots of others will say they wish they were there. But I think you're rather overestimating the broader cultural possibilities of it all. Not least because Blair is long retired.
@@chrismanners9091 Blair is not retired. But peace to you.
If Oasis have decided to bring "joy and happiness back to the world" then they're certainly charging an arm and a leg for it.
Don't forget the cut Ticketscammaster is taking from all this...
Well, if the entire UK (and others in the vicinity) are trying to get a limited amount of tickets all at the same time, that might be a thing that happens, it's also largely a Ticketmaster thing as well.
@defaultx238 the thing is oasis hired a company to run the tour, so it wouldn't surprise me if live nation (owned by ticketmaster) and ticketmaster decided to see if they could get away with upping the prices hoping no one would notice. I think liam & noel will have ro make a statement on it. From what I've heard, live nation was surprised by demand and thought they weren't charging enough for prices.
I had to double check that the article wasn't from The Daily Mash judging by the headline. Then I realised it wasn't satire. It was aparrently serious. Very disappointing.
As an English person who was 17 in 1995, I can certainly confirm that Mr Price's article does not accurately represent Oasis fandom.
Some of it was just plain weird. What's he got against Euro '96?! Surely, that's just universally accepted as great? And whatever you think about how it turned out, in 1997 Labour brought an end to 18 years of Tory rule. To say it was a great relief is an understatement.
Anyway, great response, James.
I was never a huge Oasis fan back in the day but after listening to this article I have decided to really like them from now on. I wonder if the "journalist" has stopped crying about their comeback yet. 😂
@@cdcaterham Marxists never stop crying their heart out.
If you can turn you’re self on to music just like that ,have a word fitting in usually ends bad
Life long Oasis fan here since I was a child in the 90s. Where that band was everywhere.
I'm bi. I love gender bending. Many of my friends are lgbt+. I love the Manics too. I was a supporter of Corbyn (irrelevant but relevant this article).
Oasis were class. I've always been a huge fan Liam. He's hilarious. He's a rock star and that's what I love.
Not everyone looks like me or has the same interests. I'm not a "lad", never fit in with that. But at the end of the day. Oasis are a band. People like the music, I don't care what they look like and not eveeyone is the same and nor should they look the same.
Oasis music has saved my life many times. During times when life is naff and my mood is low. The sound of Liams swagger and voice over those tunes makes me feel like the bollocks.
Simon Price is way off the mark. Also "bumchums" literally offends no one. It's an oldschool term, we used to say it in high-school. It just means you were close, spent alot of time together and was a joke/"banter". Yeah, Liams comments... In the year 2000 (24 years ago!) are out dated and dumb. But he was young, drunk/high and it was in a completely different cultural context to today.
Many other people have also pointed how Simon's complete failure to recall the context of Oasis (and many other bands) using the Union Jack at that time.
In regard to politics. Noels rich, he won't want to pay taxes. He says what he thinks, even if I think his political comments are dumb. But the Manics, who are extremely politically switched on, when James Dean Bradfield was interviewed about Corbyn he didn't support him either. Why? Because he probably didn't want to pay taxes either. Did Simon Price pull him up on that? No, because Simon knows where his bread is buttered and is therefore a hypocrite with all of his talk about "the proletariat"..
Excellent post! The idea that Oasis only appeal to straight, white, right-wing people is a really inaccurate and far fetched viewpoint.
Judging from the interviews I‘ve read, Noel Gallagher is probably the only person in Britain who still thinks Tony Blair should return to politics, and who‘s still buying into the idea of a Blair-type New Labour, which is otherwise hated by left-wingers, right-wingers and centrists alike. But describing New Labour epigone Miliband as a Communist was really bizarre, especially considering Noel‘s earlier funny remarks about how people should vote Labour so that Phil Collins won‘t return to the UK.
@@horstborscht7401 Noel says things. He doesn't even like some of his own albums which i love. Justice for Be Here Now and Standing on the Shoulders of Giants! I want a SotSoG reissue with extra tracks and a documentary/booklet! If the Manics can release anniversary reissues of some of their least critically and commercially successful albums, then Oasis certainly can!
@@MxLee192Noel needs to be quiet about Be Here Now. I was disappointed with it on release day because I expected another Morning Glory, but now I like the album a lot. Go figure.
Noel Gallaghers politics are infinitely more palatable than James Dean Bradfield or Nicky Wires. Imagine playing for Castro.
is it just me or is that the love child of keith flint, boy george and a marshmallow
The Guardian monster looked exactly how I imagined it to look.
The thing about Noel being supposedly regressive in his music tastes, yet he's done a drum and track with Goldie, dance track with the Chemical Brothers and almost did an album with The Amorphous Androgenous aka The Future Sound of London. You would think someone with a Soo Catwoman hair do (who probably thinks Keith Flint invented that) would know better? The thing about these music journalists is nobody gives a crap what they say these days when before they had the power to build and destroy scenes from their desk.
@@hiddentechno8266 Didn't Noel do TWO tracks with The Chemical Brothers? Noel being inspired by how communal acid house was doesn't get talked about enough.
@@thekissofvenus5711 yep he's in a few of the hacienda docs talking about the scene
The most articulated critique of that awful article! Thanks James. I'm a indie/alternative rock fan. I noticed how the main rock festivals have lost the 'rock' in favour of hip hop. I actually do street dance. I like the bit and the moves that come with it. But, I have been feeling disappointed in the loss of actual rock music in festivals. I was so happy when Noel made the comments about Glasto because I was thinking the exact same thing. He didn't say anything bad about Jay Z, he criticised what many of us were thinking. I did post in X after that article because I was upset. I wish ppl calling for 'tolerance' were leading by example. The way quite a few ppl have behaved since Oasis announced the reunion shows disrespect and intolerance towards the working class and Oasis fans in general. It's pretty illiberal tbh.
Well if it came to an argument of Blur and Oasis, I’d personally be in the Blur camp. Having said that, I have a lot of time for the first two Oasis albums, the early B-Sides and select singles from the later years. Seeing this article made me dig out the Definitely Maybe B-Sides for another listen. If enjoying Oasis annoys the woke, snobby holier-than-thou idiots, then I’m all for it
Putting out these Oasis videos is such a smart and respectable move at the moment. I bet the views and subs will spike like crazy in the coming weeks!
hello there!
am so glad I found your channel! right on time! also, managed to get two tickets for the opening night!! Lots of love to you. a very quick comment before I watch the video, since you are commenting on this particular article, which I did read last week. As a queer migrant, non-white person, I must say that I sometimes get anxious about some of the concerts I attend in the UK. It's been a bitter sweet experience so far. A lot of us non UK kids of the 1990s around the world were mega britophile thanks to Oasis. I still absolutely love them and the premier league is still my favourite football league to watch. The article does reflect a lot of the anxieties that some oasis fans do carry BUT it also oozes of elitism and like a lot of elitist pieces in the UK, it demonizes the working-class sooner or later. the article, also, is completely wrong on the quality of oasis' music! Best. Band. Ever!
I want to add that the lads have mellowed, and their kids, like a lot of kids these days, are super cool and inclusive and kind. and I insist that they are influencing their dads. :)
@@SabiAllAs someone who is now 60 and saw Oasis play in a small room in front of 150 people when I was still in my 20's, you are wrong about young Oasis' fans 'Dads'. Imho, socirty in this country is far more divisive and finger-pointing than it was in the early 90's. People from all backgrounds and cultures (I have amixed inmigrant heritage from Grandparents back) rubbed along together far better than now. It does irritate me when People like you pontificate about a society you weren't part of as I expect you hadn't been born yet. No offence but think before you type
@@charliecoutts3003 I agree with what you're saying. I can't argue with it. The dads i'm referring to are Liam and Noel. Didn't realize that sharing my bitter sweet experience in the UK came across as pontificating. migrants can't ever win. Am nearing fifty myself.
Great video. Still gutted I couldn't get any tickets for the Edinburgh gig (fingers crossed for some reasonably priced resales) but the prospect of a new album is fairly cheering me up in these bleak times. :-)
Some people are so skilled at being offended that that they turn it into a profession. He's one of them.
I don't think it's the journalist who's offended - the offended person is much closer to home
i'm asian, come from a rather affluent background, well educated, never lived in the uk, loved oasis and still do. i'm clear example this article is shite and rightfully debunked.
Nice 🍻
Me too!
I am someone who has spread my musical canvas very far and wide. I saw Maurizio Pollini play the Liszt B Minor Piano Sonata from memory at an amazing concert at London's Queen Elizabeth Hall. I saw Oasis play the second of two nights at Wembley Stadium when Liam Gallagher was having, it's fair to say, a bad day. I also saw the second of two nights at Knebworth in 1996, when Liam Gallagher (and Noel) were having not just a great day but perhaps THE great day for Britpop. The whole REASON why we are having this debate is because of the strength of charisma and unique musicality of the Gallagher brothers between them. The song, Acquiesce, as we all know, sums that up perfectly. Whether Noel meant it to be about that or not, that's what it's about. I know what it's like for them because I have recorded in a band with my brother for 33 years. I know how difficult it can be, and I also know that I cannot live without it.
What has happened to Liam and Noel through articles like that by Price has been happening to rock stars since the days of Elvis Presley, who was called evil, racist slurs being applied to him by writers from the deep south who, at the time, were still openly able to condone African Americans sitting at the back of the bus and being tied to a tree by cowardly white men covered in white sheets. Is this any different? Maybe in content, but certainly not in tone. When someone achieves a certain level, there are always those jealous, carping, twittering little individuals who want to be a part of it not by joining in but by slagging them off. They get more attention that way. x
I was born in the North of England in the early 70's loved Oasis, the Manics and all things grunge, but not only them I like to many bands to mention here, I think your rebuttal of Simon Price is spot on, he is one of these whiny, snivelling, elitist snobs that contributes nothing to anything positive and only tries to bolster his own inadequacies by pulling someone else down.
Well said 👏🏻👏🏻
14 million people spoke James. We spoke and broke the internet. These people will always be out there. I take no notice I’ll be in Dublin next year with 80k people singing every word just like the good aul days
Je think Simon managed to get through the ticketmaster queue?
Manics rumoured to be support for Oasis. Wonder how Pricey feels about that 😂
woke will eat itself
I read the article yesterday or the day before. I roared with laughter - the amount of people trying to get tickets proves Price wrong.
The Guardian is a comic - I only read the culture section and love the negative reviews, it usually means something is good.
Gatekeepers who are losing their power in the age of the internet.
It is getting more and more like the woke version of the Daily Mail. Full of trite articles about lifestyle and entertainment.
James, thank you for this video. I also read this article and was outraged by it.
I didn't grow up working class and lived quite well. What I loved about Oasis was simply the music. As a young man I was quite politically Conservative and now I am more left wing working on the minimum wage in a different circumstance.Throughout I have enjoyed Oasis's music and everything Liam has ever done. Politics is not important for me but I don't like being branded a reform voter on the basis of my music taste. It is thoroughly ridiculous. I don't have a big body of evidence but I imagine that Oasis fans range from the left to the right and the apathetic too. We all just love the music and want to celebrate that Oasis are back.
Imagine what they'd have written if The Smiths got back together. Maybe Marr dodged a bullet turning down all that money.
You'll never see Marr onstage with Morrissey again. For good reason.
@@thekissofvenus5711 Fine with me. Not a big Marr fan anyway.
@@austinwoods466 Yeah Moz is sounding great at these new shows. Always preferred Morrissey Solo to The Smiths.
@@GaidenFreak Abso-lutely. The B-sides alone!
@@austinwoods466 I'm the opposite. Love Marr's guitar playing yet hate everything about Morrissey.
I was incensed by this article tbh. Its just immature whiny pettiness for the sole reason that something he dislikes is popular. Your take sounds bang on to me.