3 WAYS Harley Davidson has RUINED the 2023 Street Bob!!
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- 3 WAYS Harley Davidson has RUINED the 2023 Street Bob!! In this video I will review 3 ways I think Harley Davidson has made several mistakes with the Street Bob for the model year 2023. Let me know if you agree in the comments!
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I’m just here because I’m considering a street bob, in yellow, because I think the yellow is eye catching in all the right ways. I’m tired of owning black and red bikes, this yellow was speaking to me at the dealer.
Yellow is one of my least favorite vehicle colors. Only a very few car or bikes that look good to me in yellow. The 2023 Street Bob somehow happened to pull it off. I think for me the reason it works so well is because of the minimal amount of yellow with a good contrast of black. Surprised even me but I like it.
I own the 2023 in yellow and it slowly grew on me and everyone loves it
Piss yellow
Just bought the yellow one this weekend
@@budredden818 Same here.I get mine on the 29th.
Ha! The Industrial Yellow is what's drawing me to this bike! It's funny your saying you may as well get the Low Rider S and get all the features that in your other video you note makes it not a Street Bob. You don't need dual disc brakes. You don't need inverted forks. You don't need a bigger engine. Nope. The Street Bob 114 is just fine as it is - especially in Industrial Yellow!
Yeah at the end of the day you gotta get what ya like. It's just hard to see the street bob and lrs get so close in price
I personally love the hot rod colors. Baja Orange, Fastback Blue and yes, Industrial Yellow. Red, black and white are boring to me. Different folks, different strokes.
I just got the 2023 yellow street bob yesterday. Did a trade in for my old superglide. I honestly love it. Eventually I will change the color not because I hate the yellow I have plans for it when getting it
Just picked up my SB in yellow. I like the tank but I’ll prob paint the fenders
The yellow is magnificent.
I disagree on the color. My old lady and myself love industrial yellow. We're just about to buy a yellow one she has already named bumble bee. That being said, I think they need more variety.
Skip to 2:45 to get to the point.
yep, 2 minutes and 45 seconds of teasing the point.
Perhaps the shade of yellow is wrong. Black and yellow is traditionally a marriage made in heaven. As far as value goes, I think you may be right but all they'll probably do is stuff the 117 in it and that should justify any future increase in price. Dual disc brakes are overkill I think. Ridden the 107 Softail Standard hard for hours down mountain roads without any fade whatsoever, never felt it's under braked and the suspension has always felt perfectly set up. Clearance also has never stopped rapid progress. Inverted forks and dual disks are probably just going to be bragging rights rather anything else... I reckon it looks better with a single disc, shows off the beautiful black alloy wheel and the telescopic's look sweet. Best model in Harley's line up and I think they know what a killer success it is hence the price hike knowing people will buy them regardless of all that's mentioned. Can't go wrong a vivid black if colour is not your thing
Love the video this made my mind up to buy a 22 street bob in vivid black was gonna hold out but seen the price increase for the 23 model and no difference to the bike and here in Australia harley was offering $3000 worth of parts and accessories with any 22 model so I jumped on it got it with k&n air filter element and freedom radical radius pipes willie g derby and timing covers with the fuel cap medallion then straight to the dyno where they installed a powervision tuner and screaming eagle intake manifold now I'm into the second week of owning it and loving it big step up from the street 500 I had
Awesome choice 👌
Dealer markup on the low rider s makes it much, much more expensive than a bob. At least down here in so cal. That was the reason I went with my bob, which ended up being a blessing in disguise. The streets are flooded with low riders down here, I like being at least sligtly unique. The onlly thing I want from the low rider would be the 5 gal tank.
I hear ya, man. I was going to order the 2022 in the grey and was extremely pumped. My heart sank when I saw the 2023 for all the exact reasons you just mentioned. It's still my top pick, but it has given me some major reasons to pause and consider other models.
I would say look around used for something year or 2 old with 2k or less miles. You'll get a good deal
@@TheMotoJawn I would, except that I work for Harley and get a nice discount...but it only applies to new bikes from the factory. Even if I bought a 21 - 22 used, I'd still probably be paying more than for the 2023
I'm getting used the the white but man the Grey didn't take any getting used to.
You can still pic up a 2022 1200,48, and the 883’s
The softail Standard is a sweet bike with the 107
I just bought a redline red 2023 8 days ago. Rode to bike week and already have 800 miles on it. Everybody has opinions but I love mine. My only complaints so far are the tiny gas tank and shotty kickstand. The low rider s is also a great option in the gunship grey.
That's awesome man you'll love it. Yeah now that you mention it that kickstand is a little wacky
As an update 3 more weeks in. I’ve gotten use to getting gas more so no longer a complaint. But the kick stand is definitely a complaint. Still 10/10 would buy again. 👌
I’ve got 800 miles on mine…. Already had a check engine light come on, weird clicking sound coming from rear end and my throttle just came loose. Harley missed the mark, at least on my bike.
@@mrfahrenheitsghost it’s hit or miss. I just hit 4,000 miles on mine and I’ve only issue my clutch cable keeps stretching bad. Another guy has one in our dealership with 7 engine codes and nothing but problems. I guess I got lucky.
I bought my 21 street bob in April of 22, and paid 15,500, with only 1900 miles.
Own a 2014 dyna Street Bob, still love it. The 103 is a great engine and enough power for me.
Solid for sure
I agree 100% on the graphics. The color you have to see in person it isn't a bright yellow at all. We bought one this year in the yellow. Ill try to get a better video of the color. price is getting high could at least ad cruse.
Definitely looks a little less bright in person
I feel like the price jump was to incentivize buying the low rider or to bite the bullet and just get the softail standard so they can sell more models
I think pushing peo0le towards low rider s
The yellow one should be called the sponge bob
Hadn't thought about that lol
I could have gotten a perfectly modded for me 20 low mile Greyish blue street bob in early 2021. Hate I didn’t get it, but the dealer would never give me a cash price, just tried to push financing. It was for my first bike so I ended up saving some cash and buying a shadow instead to learn on. Now that I’m considering making a slight jump up, it’s back to looking at Street Bob’s. For the price, the 114 isn’t a necessity to me and I’m not in love with the looks of the bold colors and tank graphics. Seriously considering buying a standard softail and nodding it to my liking instead as the 107 was plenty for me.
The standard is a great option too
Prices in the US are way lower than what we have here .. just paid about 22000$ for my 2022 Softail standard 😅 .. by the way here the difference between the standard and the St. Bob is a bit over 3000$ .. so maybe HD wants to make it a bit more expensive to increase the gab between it and the standard 🤷🏽♂️
That's a good point too
What did HD announce today? Nothing right. “Here’s the 120th paint scheme”. Which makes me think of the other Anniversary paint jobs that nobody cares about.
Snooze fest
the Street Bob is one of my favorite bikes the MOCO makes. Every time I see one I gander at it. If I didn't have my Fat Bob, I could see me buying a Street Bob to do the same duty, especially with the Red on your bike. I'm a sucker for Red bikes, I only bought a Black Bike because it was cheaper and the red denim paint they offered in 19 was trash.
My recline red is okay. It grew on me
Color is subjective . However, I agree the big price jump for the same exact bike is theft. Of course they priced the Street Bob114 close to the Low Rider S so that people now spend over 18K for a HD. Many better options at that price point.
So true at this point
What is name of song or music in your background when opening video?
Yep, and the answer is....Softail Standard. The real best bike for the buck. No dealers have them in stock because everyone coming in would buy them and skip over the $$$$ models. I had to order a 2023 FXST.
Agree, I bought a 20 fxst new and love it. Before I buy a 20k hd, I’d go Indian
I recently got the 2023 FXST. I’ll be honest, it maybe the last Harley I’ll get unless they calm it down with the prices. Wanted a fat Bob but those prices are wow. I’m just fortunate that the FXST is well in my budget
It's a good one though. Build it up
The yellow in person looks amazing, if I were to buy one the yellow would definitely be the one 💯
Turns out I got lucky, I bought a new 22’ at the end of November for 17.7k out the door. I haven’t even brought it home from the dealership yet I’m in Buffalo, NY. My first Harley, I’ve never rode a Harley I’m coming from a sport bike.
Nice you'll love it
They only pleasing stock holders these days. That’s #1 -
Harley need to loose the tv and radio crap and get back to building solid fully optioned, V twin bikes.
Just my Aussie opinion
The vivid black with red on the tank looks 👌 awesome.
It's orange not red on the black
I find it interesting that so many people think harley is over doing it with the price. Considering back before the complete harley lineup redesign for all their bikes the only “affordable” Harley was the iron 883 and even that was to much pushing 15k or more with taxes and fees. And the street bob before it got turned into a soft tail was starting 20k to 22k. The fact that Harley finally has real competition with Indian motorcycles. As well as all other manufacturers who were better at capturing the younger generation of riders with better tech and more affordable prices. Finally has forced Harley to try and compete for the younger generation such as myself to save their brand for the future. I think their prices while are going up again slowly are far better then they use to be up to 2017.
If I’m not mistaken, didn’t some of the other softails now get cruise control too? Did the street bob?
I dont think the street bob was one of them
@@TheMotoJawn that only makes your point more valid. The pricing is too close to the other models with more options.
I have a 21 I bought new for msrp in black, the 1 graphics are what sold me on the bob vs a Lowrider s.
I just don’t get why Harley doesn’t put dual front brakes on this bike especially with high price And ur exactly right u are not walking out of the dealership without dropping 20k on this bike ! Used ones are out there for decent prices with low miles and I would deff look for a Chief over the streetbob with the price
I know I'm a little late responding to this but my bad for not subscribing and getting this sooner. I now subscribed so I don't miss anything. What are the 3 mistakes? I only counted 2. Anyway I have a 20 Black Street Bob with the old style badge. Definitely prefer this style and would not get a 114 with the less appealing #1 design. My thoughts too when I saw that yellow. I'm not a fan of any of the new Street Bob looks, even the black because that orange design detracts from the black look
I bought my first new Harley in 2006 and fell in love with the bikes they offered at the time. Since 2017 Harley has been systematically eliminating nearly every model I would buy and price gouging the few that are left. I would not buy anything they have on the showroom floor in 2023
True I say just buy used
I posted a listing of bikes that were cancelled after receiving accolades by the motorcycle press and the overlords deleted it.
The yellow doesn't look any better in person. I think it's worse on the Road King Special.🤮
Hahah too much yellow
@@TheMotoJawn Yes!😄
5 mins in... and only the color is discussed. More meat! Less filler!
I agree. I have a Street bob 107 2020 in river Rock. Best colour out there. Wouldn't consider the 2023 Street bob as you mentioned colours are yuk. For a little more $$ you can move into other models.
That's a great color 👌
Colors are less of a concern to me overall than value. To raise the price $1200 without any changes to the motorcycle to justify $1200 worth of price increase just doesn’t make sense and would absolutely have me considering other bikes or as you mentioned looking at a low miles garage pampered used bike for considerably less money. Might even find a used bike still under warranty with accessories already added that I would be shelling out my own hard earned pennies on. In my geographical location low mileage Harleys are easy to come by. Some times they are priced fairly and a good bargain can be had.
I think they have also ruined the standard in the German market. In Germany you have a price difference of ~500€ to the Street Bob. And the Standard costs 3000€ more than the year before.... now it costs ~19,000€ and the Street Bob costs ~19,500€. That's ridiculous! They should just give the people what they want, a black painted Street Bob. On the parts market they are all after the black tank of the standard 2018-2022 and the black tank of the Street Bob from 2018-2020.
So true
Street Bob here in Ireland went up € 3000 this year it now costs € 22, 895 plus the msrp charges, standard here is € 21,395 plus msrp
@@montha123 that's sick!
Man, glad I bought a 2022. 2023 prices would chase me to Honda for a new 1100 Rebel.
Agree
I have a softball std, I think they are planning to phase the street bob out to force you into the fat bob. They’ll probably offer the standard in a few more colors to attract lower price point buyers.
Very possible
Agree on all points, the yellow...Doesn't do it for me at all, of course price is crazy, happy to get mine when i did. Love what you're doing with yours btw! 🙌🤜🤛
Thanks dude! Been watching yours for some ideas 🤔
@@TheMotoJawn Great minds think alike lol...We'll have to have a meeting of the Bobs ride out one day. Great stuff looking forward to see where you take it
I'm still salty Harley discontinued the best bang for your buck models with the 107 Low Rider and Slim. You get the 5 gal tank. Now you can't get a five gallon tank until you climb the ladder up to a Low Rider S or Heritage
I liked the low rider 107
@@TheMotoJawn samesies. I miss chrome bikes
I love the Slim. Probably my all-time favorite soft tail. My 22 Street Bob is getting a Slim handle bar.
@@charlesharper7292 that's funny, I own a Slim but I'd prefer if it had a spoked street bob front wheel on it.
Funny. I love the yellow color. Each their own. Color is such a subjective experience.
I just bought that Yellow one today! 😂😂😂
Haha color is just preference you're going to love it either way
In regard to the color spectrum... I really loved the 2022 Fastback Blue. I was disappointed that they took it out of the lineup and discontinued it. However, I would agree with you with the Yellow color. I thought it was hideous and as you mentioned not sure how they would sell any of these.. I love the new tank sticker emblem and think that was a big win. I look forward to seeing some new colors as I think it really makes the bikes pop. I know a lot of people like black, but in my opinion everyone has black and it is nice to have a bike that is a little bit unique. Great video - thanks.
Yeah Harley has lost their minds, especially with this bike. I guess they plan on selling them to a bunch of noobs who don’t realize how bad they’re getting screwed? I just don’t see any value in this bike anymore. I’m really pretty disgusted with the entire lineup this year and they just introduced the whole lineup earlier today. The Breakout 117 was the star of the show but at $21k MSRP it’s again, way overpriced. Everything Harley is doing nowadays doesn’t make any sense. They are literally making Indian motorcycles look like a value. I’m so disappointed with HD. So glad I already got my bike, else I would definitely be going over to Indian. At least you get some technology with a new Chief and they look great.
The breakout is way off base. I don't even think it sold previously when it was around
Cast wheels is what ruined it for me personally last year. And '22 MSRP was already off. So basically, I am selling my Iron 1200 and buying me a Desert X. Or maybe keep the sportster, not completely sure yet. I remember few years back, just before the pandemic, HD said they want to position themselves as "luxury motorcycle brand". Well, good luck I guess?
I was skeptical on the wheel too at first
If you sell your Sportster you'll regret it dearly.
@@spaceflight1019 Funny I have that feeling too...
Good luck with that desert x 😂
@@SnK_151 Oh so Harleys are "bulletproof"? Stock up on Kool Aid much?
I’m definitely lucky to live next to one of the best dealerships in the country, I only paid $100.00 over msrp . And my state has no sales tax . I ride a 2021 Street Bob , I could not beat the price for that bike .
That's a good deal I would love no sales tax haha
But you are correct, they are pricing people out of the Street Bob , especially with dealerships with lots of add on charges.
I'm a home builder and I can tell you that yellow is an extremely polarizing color. Some people like yellow, wnat yellow siding, yellow walls, etc. Others absolutely hate yellow. Someone has us paint their new house yellow, and they love it. The neighbors then create a petition to have the yellow house changed because of how awful it looks.
i went to harley they other day and the yellow one was just under 20 grand. i could not believe it. how do people keep buying at these insane price increases
Ok I bought my Harley Davidson 2023 street bob brand new & 6 months later it's having a major issue I have oil bleeding from my carborater / air filter & now .. I have to find 2100 $ & still make my payments on time remember I bought this machine brand new....
I just picked up new 2022 streetbob in blue for 11,498
You're going to love it
Laughs in "European Harley prices "... 22k € for the street bob. I still remember when I was looking to the new recently launched m8 street bob for replace my Sportster it was like 16k € and was already expensive, but man has gone Harley crazy with prices... Now I'm looking more and more to the Bonneville Speedmaster and othe bikes.
I have a 22. Biggest disappointment is the breather system. Thank You EPA. Not
Glad I got a 22 in gauntlet grey.
Love that color
I don’t mind the yellow kinda like it would not buy one I have the deadwood green one 🇦🇺
Love the green
Hate the yellow. Love the blue, gray, and deadwood green. Need bigger fuel tank to go with higher prices.
Grey and green have probably been my favorite
Has harley fixed the electrical issues my best friends street Bob likes to shut off randomly and harely has replaced just about everything in the wiring harness it's also apparently a known issue for the 2022 models but even with all that work done to a bike that had zero miles on it when purchased the problem is still there they even paid him out for a lemon law case but it's anyone's guess as to when it's gonna randomly shut off
Haven't heard yet
The street Bob is my favorite model even though I ride my street glide the most. I had a 2016 Dyna street Bob with the 103. I regret daily selling that bike. It was olive gold and beautiful. This new yellow and same graphic type is ugly. Wake up Harley!!!
For real 👍
I looked hard at a 2024 new Street Bob with a view to personalise it how I wanted but tbh, I hate the cast wheels, I prefer the earlier ones with spokes. By the time I worked out the costs for exhaust, fenders, seat, handle bars, signal lights etc, just not worth it.
I wasted a ton of money on my Sportster S, took in for a trade on, I laughed as they offered peanuts. I’ll keep it and pass to my son in law. I ended up getting an as new 2018 Softail FLSTN deluxe with dry 200 miles on it, a ton of money spent on it, fully serviced yearly by HD for a great price a few thousand less than a new cut price dealer special Street Bob.
We all like our different colors and wasn't interested in yellow at first then it growed on me, my brother and others like it. It was also cheaper than you saying but they did ad some fees. I wasn't interested in other models I decided I liked the street bob
I totally agree with your assessment of the Street Bob. The woke portion of HD with the elimination of the iron with the evolution motor and now Street Bob it appears HD is conforming to the movement and with the price increase during these economic times is a true death sentence, keep the iron Sportster and build on that for a true bike lover.
The evolution motor is a necessity, not moving forward and accepting water cooled offerings is a death sentence for Harley, the old "bike lovers" will die, the young ones won't buy, and the brand will die too. What really is killing the sales is the prices period.
Look what they did with the sportsters smh 🤦♂️
Good information about street bob.
I owned a 21 with 107 and thought wow what a perfect bike. Great one for women wanting to ride a lighter softail. That was a prefect bike for the 107 and the price was good. Now it’s heavier do to the bigger engine and now it’s priced up with the bigger softails.
I’m happy with the 2022 gauntlet gray
Love that color
I wanted that exact one so bad...was majorly disappointed they don't offer that color any more
That's what I got
Totally agree about the price man.
It keeps getting higher
@@TheMotoJawn indeed!
Here in Italy the 2023 Vivid Black Street Bob is about 20.500 euros (all tax and 5h17 included).
The 2023 Vivid Black Low Rider S os around 23.500 euros (all taxes and 5h17 included.
Make your euro > dollar math and cry out loud 😤😤😤
This is just me.looking at the gas tank from the side of the bike the shape is very nice looking. Sitting on the bike and looking down at the tank to me it's missing something as the shape is ugly. Just my opinion. Thanks
It's does look a little flat when you look down at it
I love my street bob as well .. great video
Great bike 🏍 👍
I hate the god awful tank graphics.
2021 with the spoke wheels in orange or black is 🚀
Spokes 🔥🔥🔥
The red is beautiful, my friend just bought one
Nice you're gonna love it 👍
Canary Yellow, good grief.
I didn't like the graphics at all. I would want a gloss black with the Harley emblem or the bar and shield. At least you can change them out for what you want.
I would like a plain tank and badge like the bagger specials
I don't like the blacked out engine.
I would love them to still continue with the chrome engine
2022 was tough for the dealership. 2023 is going to kill sales.
That new yellow is terrible. I wanted a roadking. The only one they had was that diarrhea yellow. Had to pass.
Ended up with a low rider instead.
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Thats why I got the gauntlet grey street bob 🫡🫡🫡
Great color
The small size of the tank killed the street bob
What size tank should a bobber have?
It's been alive and well since 2006. And it's still here in 2023. Some people keep talking about the tank, as if they could last a non stop ride until the tank emptied. I rode from Canada to Florida on a Street Bob, I made more frequent stops than I needed to fill up for gas. This gas tank issue is really all in the imagination.
Can go about 190 miles maybe more with ethenol free
Meh, I'll keep my 2011 dyna street bob with the 110 tire shredder over the softail version 🤷
I'm looking real hard at a Street Bob... I wouldn't say HD has ruined it, but they haven't helped it any. The price increase...well, {expletive} everything is getting more expensive faster than it seems reasonable. The overlap with the Low Rider S? Not that big of a deal to me, the Street Bob has the appeal, I don't really care about the other features and slightly bigger engine. Where I do agree with you is that HD wandered seriously off the ranch with the colors. WTF were they thinking? Who ever sold them on that ought to be slapped. I'm not a fan of the graphics on the tank but I could live with it. Not a fan of the orange so it would be Redline Red for me or nothing. That yellow? If HD *gave* me a Street Bob for free in that yellow I'd ride it straight from the dealer to a paint shop. I mean direct, do not pass go, do not collect $200, get that ... off the bike.
I would say find a used 1 to 2 year old one
I was going to pull the trigger on a street bob this year, but as you mentioned with that increased price point it made me turn away to consider other models. I think this is a really poor business decision Harley has made. I think they have really shot themselves in the foot with this one.
It is a shame as I thought the Street Bob was one of their most popular selling bikes....
I would say still get one. Just look on the used market. Alot of good deals from private sellers
I’m stuck between buying a Harley 114 street bob or the Indian dark horse 116. Prices are almost the same… hate to drop the Harley brand but I mean way more features with Indian.
Yellow is my favorite color.👍
Couldn't agree with you more..... And that's why people are buying other brands and not Harley anymore?
Harley has the same problem that all powersports manufacturers have: lack of interest by the demographic that should be buying their products. Harley looked at the numbers...they are buying Tesla cars and iPhones. So, they came up with the Live Wire. But they still aren't buying. Honda is looking to recreate the buzz from the CB750, the other Japanese manufacturers are doing the same, and so is Triumph. The lone exception seems to be Royal Enfield. But I don't see one in every other driveway, not like the CB350 did.
big seller for me was the cast wheels, no more friggin spoke cleaning. 114 engine, handles like a dream, light and low..black is cheapest...I disagree with you..still an awsome bike. I f you want a Lowrider buy a low rider. I had a dyna 103 fxdl , great bike but the 2023 Street bob is better.
Harley has an inferiority complex. After the magazines declared that the 2008 1200 Sportster Roadster was the best bike HD ever made the model was discontinued.
When the 2017 Low Rider received the same accolades, they discontinued it.
I agree but a 2023 seems silly when you could get a slightly used one for cheaper
I love street bobs but I'm not in love with the number 1 graphics or the wheels on them so I'll have to buy used I guess. I love the older ones styling way more than current ones
Yeah the 1 is not my favorite
I’m allergic to bees 🐝 so I wouldn’t ever buy a yellow bike, and yellow yak 🤢🤮
Lolllllll
Mine is redline red. I could have done without the graphics. I liked the gray, but it blends in with the pavement too much for my comfort. Yeah the yellow stinks.
Graphics on the black one makes it look like a jack o lantern.
The red has grown on me after getting one
The 2023 fxbb your basically paying for the annihilator wheels.
The colours of 2023 line-up are in general ugly as I've never seen before. No real news on the market from H-D in 2023, just another rise in price that was just insane before. Really happy I bought my Road King special 2022 in midnight crimson. As you said 2023 yellow is the ugliest colur but the others are not much better. We have seen only a disgusting marketing exercise from H-D in 2023.
colors always subjective. I don't like red. I wouldn't buy yellow, but I know folks who would. I'm a fan of the deadwood green . I'm surprised they don't have a bit more options on color.. I mean we're talking about a tank, and two fenders.. :). When it comes down to it.. I wouldn't buy a yellow one or a red one.. less likely to ever buy a red one :)
they ruined it when they went to that small ass gas tank when they swapped frames
Pastels! Nothing says live to ride more than a pastel colored iron horse.
😂😂😂
My 2005 1200 Roadster is painted Yellow Pearl. I like being visible. It reduces the chance of being flattened.
@@spaceflight1019 you can never have enough visibility, so valid point!
@@KennyQuestShow There's a local shop whose tagline is "Loud Shirts Save Lives". They sell those loud shirts favored by construction and highway workers.
First way they ruined the Street Bob is discontinuing the Dyna. 👎🏼
Any Philly fans around here?