How Close Are We to Calling the Red Planet Home?
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AI needs to go first and then we are f&cked. Oh BTW I got the right underwear for the journey.
People often forget that all our water is recycled one way or another and it's the same water we're drinking now that's been around since the beginning of civilization.
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I wonder if they're good for under space suits
Men talk about how their parts get over heated.
Where's the wear for women? Our parts get over heated and let not get started with boob sweat.
How about how bad it gets down there while menstruating.
Men don't understand how great they have it and yet they whine constantly.
I’m an older guy and this is about the 5th time I’ve heard we’re going to do this. Everyone gets hyped than reality hits and it’s forgotten for another decade.
@@Monty22001 That conman makes promises about landing on Mars every other year and has done for decades. Stop being mislead and think for yourself. About the near impossible technical aspects and how long it will take in reality.
@@Monty22001 Musk has a habit of over promising and under delivering. He’s essentially a hype man I doubt he’s serious about Mars
Outer Space doesn't exist.Earth is the only World there is.There are no other Physical Cosmic
Worlds out there and there is no Infinite Cosmic Spatial Vacuum Void.Outer Space has "3 Enormous Problems":Problem 1 - Survivability - Cosmic Space is completely and inherently uninhabitable,
inhospitable and unliveable.This doesn't seem/feel right.If Outer Space truly existed
it should therefore be completely and inherently habitable,hospitable and liveable.If Outer Space was real it would be 100% welcoming of All-potential Beings,Creatures and Life-forms.This means that Outer Space must be "Breathable",because otherwise Everyone and Everything would immediately and perpetually suffocate and no Life-forms would ever emerge or survive in such a lethal Cosmic Universe.Problem 2 - Cosmic Travel - All-vehicles must push "Something" in order to move and go "Somewhere".In Earth's Atmosphere Automobiles push "Air" to move,Airplanes also push "Air" to move and Cruise Ships push "Water" to move,but Outer Space has no Atmosphere.You cannot travel to/in Outer Space,because The Vacuum of Space neutralizes All-pushing power/travel power.This means that Space Travel is impossible,that No One has ever left The Earth,that No One has ever traveled to Space and that every single Space Mission from the beginning to today is a lie.If Outer Space truly existed it would need to have an "Atmosphere" in order for Outer Space Travel to be possible.Problem 3 - Vast Separation - Celestial Space is just far too tremendously vast as a territory.All-Life-forms are separated,because of the "Humongous Distance" between them.This is not convenient.If Outer Space was real it wouldn't be so gargantuan,because it has to be much smaller and more "Tightly-Knit",so that All-potential Life-forms can locate and
discover each other.Outer Space is a lie designed in order to convince The Public that Extraterrestrial Beings exist.The total "Inhospitableness" and "Unfeasibility" of Outer Space proves that Outer Space cannot exist,because Outer Space doesn't exist!
Same!! When SPACE 1999 didn't happen, I gave up!!!
@@cloverfield911 Outer Space doesn't exist.Earth is the only World there is.There are no other Physical Cosmic
Worlds out there and there is no Infinite Cosmic Spatial Vacuum Void.Outer Space has "3 Enormous Problems":Problem 1 - Survivability - Cosmic Space is completely and inherently uninhabitable,
inhospitable and unliveable.This doesn't seem/feel right.If Outer Space truly existed
it should therefore be completely and inherently habitable,hospitable and liveable.If Outer Space was real it would be 100% welcoming of All-potential Beings,Creatures and Life-forms.This means that Outer Space must be "Breathable",because otherwise Everyone and Everything would immediately and perpetually suffocate and no Life-forms would ever emerge or survive in such a lethal Cosmic Universe.Problem 2 - Cosmic Travel - All-vehicles must push "Something" in order to move and go "Somewhere".In Earth's Atmosphere Automobiles push "Air" to move,Airplanes also push "Air" to move and Cruise Ships push "Water" to move,but Outer Space has no Atmosphere.You cannot travel to/in Outer Space,because The Vacuum of Space neutralizes All-pushing power/travel power.This means that Space Travel is impossible,that No One has ever left The Earth,that No One has ever traveled to Space and that every single Space Mission from the beginning to today is a lie.If Outer Space truly existed it would need to have an "Atmosphere" in order for Outer Space Travel to be possible.Problem 3 - Vast Separation - Celestial Space is just far too tremendously vast as a territory.All-Life-forms are separated,because of the "Humongous Distance" between them.This is not convenient.If Outer Space was real it wouldn't be so gargantuan,because it has to be much smaller and more "Tightly-Knit",so that All-potential Life-forms can locate and
discover each other.Outer Space is a lie designed in order to convince The Public that Extraterrestrial Beings exist.The total "Inhospitableness" and "Unfeasibility" of Outer Space proves that Outer Space cannot exist,because Outer Space doesn't exist!
I am 70 and I doubt I will live to see humans go to Mars and return. I do hope to get mankind land again on the moon in the next couple years with my grandchildren. In 1969 I was being raised by my grandparents and got to watch Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin land on the moon. It would be cool to me to have that flipped around this time with my own grand kids. Shalom
I think you will see humans get to Mars and return if you can hold on another 15 years. Maybe less than 10, but that is extremely optimistic.
@@anthonypelchat I am hopeful. My grandfather made it almost to 94. Shalom
@@politicsuncensored5617 I hope the best for you.
you should see men on the moon by 80 yrs old. thats the aretemis projections as of now.
No offence, but you guys are like little kids, believing in something that will never happen. Look up Biosphere 2, they tried to simulate a Martian base here on Earth and it was a colossal failure and it would be even worse on Mars. Not to mention that even getting there would take 6 months and that's when Mars is closest to Earth in orbit around the Sun. Imagine how much food, water and everything else would be required for just one person, let alone 5 or 10, you simply can't cram that much stuff into a spacecraft. Mars and space in general is nothing but a deathtrap.
All I can think of is the opening to The Expanse when you watch the colony on Mars start and then grown over decades into the MCRN.
One step closer to epic space battles without lasers, shields, and people surviving.
That's called a Fantasy. It's never happening.
This is reality not Prime TV. It’s not possible with current technology and why the hell go to a gigantic wasteland to kill humans? Which is what will happen.
All I can think of is Alita : Battle Angel, because she is HOT!!
The dream of Mars, hell of a thing
Mars doesn't have a magnetic field. There is no protection from radiation like cosmic rays. This is a major issue .
That's totally oversold. It's no worse than being in an airplane on Earth. The shelters and suits will be adequate protection.
Pack a hat and some sunscreen.
@@slabrankle9588 No. Its much worse. You do understand how our atmosphere and magnetosphere work, right? If not, its easy to educate yourself on the matter.
@@andromidiusThen there's the whole gravity issue as well.
I still believe out best bet is to go underground, or to remodel a giant cave. A Mars base is a great setup to eventually become a giant gasstation for astroid mining. But I don't think I'll see that happening in my lifetime.
When I was a kid I found an older National Geographic with a ton of stuff about colonizing Mars. The one image from it thats stood out to me all this time was of a kid my age wearing almost normal clothes and a respirator attached to a supplementary oxygen tank as while there were trees that had started growing in the distance, there wasnt enough oxygen to breathe. He was on the edge of a mountain or cliff looking out over the red plain and off in the distance a futuristic city sprouting from the landscape. Its been a dream of mine for that to be real in a sense sonce that day and has fueled many many a day dream
When I was a kid I found a magazine by the train tracks that made me feel the same way. I still think about it years later.
Of course, such a scenario would be fairly late in the terraforming of Mars.
When i was a kid™(around 2003-2005) i was reading in a reputable journal about piloted mars missions in year 2012. Reading and watching pop science stuff for all the time since then, i can definitely say that they speak more than do. It is very annoying that NASA are EXTREME SLOWPOKES. I can get that they probably want all to be perfect delaying stuff over and over again, but first step in anything is not obliged to be perfect, but actually i guess thats not the actual reason. more like they (and government and also people) are just not inetersted enough for it to happen, otherwise we would have first base in 2012. The fact that there is no Soviets to compete - IS NOT AN EXCUSE in these questions.
How many will die trying to get to an uninhabitable planet?
@@chriselyr2484 i found a box of mags like that. my mate dobbed on me and my parrents found out. was a very educational 24 hours
Guy on a mailing list I'm on was at McMurdo for a year...he mentioned that usually he could take or leave strawberries, but down there a chance to eat a fresh one was almost a religious experience. So yeah, viable greenhouses that can handle more than just the bare essentials will definitely be a major concern. Nevermind the aid to life support and the psychological benefits of getting to be somewhere with lots of green life, compared to the barren wastelands outside
Going to Mars sounds like fun... until you realize its a dusty, freezing cold, irradiated desert..
So a normal day visit to california.
@@world_still_spins As least you can breath in California. Or go outside without a pressure suit.
@@andromidiusYou need a pressure suit if you live in San Fran... just to breathe and not smell the dookie.
The length of the journey turns you nuts
Also toxic, let's not forget that the Martian soil is packed full of perchlorates which are harmful to humans.
5:05 sounds like BloodBowl's little brother DungeonBowl.
To my fellow Futurama fans, comparing building something on Antarctica to building something on Mars is like comparing baseball to blurnsball!
The classic sci fi masters proposed a number of solutions to living on Mars. Their stories have suggested using caves as the original habitat. Just need to make them air tight. The caves already provides radiation shielding and thermal mass to moderate the interior temperate (somewhat).
Also send unmanned probes to the parts of Mars with ice to create water and hydrogen (to use as fuel, via solar) so it doesn't have to be brought from earth.
You have some good ideas my friend! Makes sense to me.
Drones probably are the answer to space exploration and mining. Going ourselves is too expensive and dangerous, even if we figure out how to do it. Meanwhile you can send an army of drones controlled remotely (given orders every few days to account for distance, with a simple AI to figure out how to do the task given), do all the hard work without the need for water or food or air, then bring back whatever it is we want/need while we just sit on Earth enjoying the ability to survive with relative ease.
Yea, we need to send probes to the more interesting parts of Mars to sniff out some giant caves. :)
You don't waste energy building massive structures on an empty planet, you just move into the best existing ones.
Caves can be pressurized with local CO2 and then workers can operate there in breathing masks and winter clothes, instead of full space suits.
When deeper caves have proven that they don't leak, they could be upgraded to a breathable air mix and used for living quarters.
@klinestill We have pictures of plenty of caves, we just need the probes to find some horizontal entrances into them.
Geology is geology, Mars isn't that different to Earth in that regard... :)
In fact Mars caves are expected to be much larger than Earths, for obvious reasons...
@klinestill Yes, caves are holes in the ground...
I guess it's just a shame NASA never did some kind of... 'Caves of Mars Project' ;)
1:25 - Chapter 1 - Across the gulf of space
2:05 - Mid roll ads
3:30 - Back to the video
6:30 - Chapter 2 - That remote, forbidding planet
11:05 - Chapter 3 - Robots in disguise
14:35 - Chapter 4 - Heavy metal
17:45 - Chapter 5 - Creatures that swarm & multiply
- Chapter 6 -
4:17 - Audio G*itch
@@godlugner5327 nah that's just BS censorship. woke turds censored Simon saying "do cool science Shit".
One thing is that the Antarctic winter bases have is a secondary (although smaller) essential facilities backup. The Martin crew may be able to fix fractures or minor failures, but a fire could render the primary base un‐liveable. In that case they would need redundancy in most all systems. So when thinking about a Mars base we really need to think BASES to support a single crew. I really don't see this happening with the efforts of a single nation. Even an international effort may not be sufficient for the undertaking.
We'll be lucky if we ever even send a manned mission there.
Colonization is completely out of the question.
@@proto-geek248 I can see manned missions, though I question why we should even bother. It is a huge expense for dubious returns. We also have zero experience with sending crafts to Mars and having them return. We should be doing robotic missions to practice this before we ever send humans.
@@godsfavoriteant9293 totally agree. It's an extremely expensive & dangerous gamble to send people to Mars, but I'd be perfectly happy to see advanced robotic missions.
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Of the designs mentioned, the only one I have an issue with is the windows.
I would place the living quarters in a heavily sheltered location and equip them with a smart wall. Basically, it would be a large display screen capable of being subdivided as required to serve as a computer display for work or gaming, a video screen for watching videos - including personal videos from home, and as a "window" that can show live feeds from around the base, or a custom view from Earth or anywhere else - the ultimate in desktop wallpaper.
The smart wall would afford something that sounds a bit creepy but might be necessary on such a mission: it would allow a computer to analyze the crew's mental state. Not spying and reporting, per se, but tracking trends that might suggest homesickness and snap the crew member out of it by suggesting a favorite movie, or a video game, etc.
Antarctic station life, even ISS station life, will never properly prepare anyone for the isolation they will feel on Mars. The more we can do to support our pioneering astronauts the better they will do.
There are potential ways to have windows without radiation getting in.
Good points. A lot of genius is going to have to go into their design, no doubt about it. Since the journey would be very dangerous, I also think that robots and AI are going to have to pave the way. That would be a very complicated phase in itself, but it would probably prevent a lot of casualties, something nobody wants. Humans will follow later after the bugs are worked out.
I'd envisage something combining several techniques. The thing they didn't mention here is meteorite strikes which don't have the same level of atmosphere to traverse (and may be functionally far more numerous?). Whatever they build it's going to have to be awfully strong and resilient; also having to block various forms of radiation too, this isn't an easy brief.
Exactly. Some say live in the lava tubes. You can do that on Earth, try it out for a year.
Right. Those are things that they are going to have to factor in. Most of the meteors are coming from the infamous Asteroid Belt, Mars beings closer to it than the Earth. Caves have been discussed as alternatives to artificially constructed bases. Probably using several different types of bases would be best. Building materials are going to have to be SUPER STRONG. Thinking farther down the line, it may be time to attack that damn Asteroid Belt and see if they can't carve up some of those bigger, more dangerous asteroids into smaller pieces. The smaller the better. Wouldn't that be something if we could do that! Because sooner or later, one of those buggers is going to hit Mars again and wipe out whatever, or whoever is living and working there. Same for our Earth.
The first hab structures might be caves we drill into the walls of the Valles, or perhaps lava tubes. We don't have to do massive construction before we arrive. We arrive, inhabit some caves or tubes, and begin building.
And then in 100 years humans on mars will want independence from humanity on earth like all sci-fi has predicted
Outer Space doesn't exist.Earth is the only World there is.There are no other Physical Cosmic
Worlds out there and there is no Infinite Cosmic Spatial Vacuum Void.Outer Space has "3 Enormous Problems":Problem 1 - Survivability - Cosmic Space is completely and inherently uninhabitable,
inhospitable and unliveable.This doesn't seem/feel right.If Outer Space truly existed
it should therefore be completely and inherently habitable,hospitable and liveable.If Outer Space was real it would be 100% welcoming of All-potential Beings,Creatures and Life-forms.This means that Outer Space must be "Breathable",because otherwise Everyone and Everything would immediately and perpetually suffocate and no Life-forms would ever emerge or survive in such a lethal Cosmic Universe.Problem 2 - Cosmic Travel - All-vehicles must push "Something" in order to move and go "Somewhere".In Earth's Atmosphere Automobiles push "Air" to move,Airplanes also push "Air" to move and Cruise Ships push "Water" to move,but Outer Space has no Atmosphere.You cannot travel to/in Outer Space,because The Vacuum of Space neutralizes All-pushing power/travel power.This means that Space Travel is impossible,that No One has ever left The Earth,that No One has ever traveled to Space and that every single Space Mission from the beginning to today is a lie.If Outer Space truly existed it would need to have an "Atmosphere" in order for Outer Space Travel to be possible.Problem 3 - Vast Separation - Celestial Space is just far too tremendously vast as a territory.All-Life-forms are separated,because of the "Humongous Distance" between them.This is not convenient.If Outer Space was real it wouldn't be so gargantuan,because it has to be much smaller and more "Tightly-Knit",so that All-potential Life-forms can locate and
discover each other.Outer Space is a lie designed in order to convince The Public that Extraterrestrial Beings exist.The total "Inhospitableness" and "Unfeasibility" of Outer Space proves that Outer Space cannot exist,because Outer Space doesn't exist!
Let them have it.
Let the Scots have their freedom too.
yes
One of the biggest disappointments in my life is I will be too old to go to mars by the time we’re living there.
1000 years old is a bit optomistic.
Go to death valley, it's more charming and less inhospitable.
Outer Space doesn't exist.Earth is the only World there is.There are no other Physical Cosmic
Worlds out there and there is no Infinite Cosmic Spatial Vacuum Void.Outer Space has "3 Enormous Problems":Problem 1 - Survivability - Cosmic Space is completely and inherently uninhabitable,
inhospitable and unliveable.This doesn't seem/feel right.If Outer Space truly existed
it should therefore be completely and inherently habitable,hospitable and liveable.If Outer Space was real it would be 100% welcoming of All-potential Beings,Creatures and Life-forms.This means that Outer Space must be "Breathable",because otherwise Everyone and Everything would immediately and perpetually suffocate and no Life-forms would ever emerge or survive in such a lethal Cosmic Universe.Problem 2 - Cosmic Travel - All-vehicles must push "Something" in order to move and go "Somewhere".In Earth's Atmosphere Automobiles push "Air" to move,Airplanes also push "Air" to move and Cruise Ships push "Water" to move,but Outer Space has no Atmosphere.You cannot travel to/in Outer Space,because The Vacuum of Space neutralizes All-pushing power/travel power.This means that Space Travel is impossible,that No One has ever left The Earth,that No One has ever traveled to Space and that every single Space Mission from the beginning to today is a lie.If Outer Space truly existed it would need to have an "Atmosphere" in order for Outer Space Travel to be possible.Problem 3 - Vast Separation - Celestial Space is just far too tremendously vast as a territory.All-Life-forms are separated,because of the "Humongous Distance" between them.This is not convenient.If Outer Space was real it wouldn't be so gargantuan,because it has to be much smaller and more "Tightly-Knit",so that All-potential Life-forms can locate and
discover each other.Outer Space is a lie designed in order to convince The Public that Extraterrestrial Beings exist.The total "Inhospitableness" and "Unfeasibility" of Outer Space proves that Outer Space cannot exist,because Outer Space doesn't exist!
Mars would involve your body weakening to a third of your strength due to the lack of gravity, constant radiation baths from the sun (yeah cancer!), no food, cant grow it, no water, no breatheable air, and cold as shit. Humans won't live on Mars permanently.
I may not be able to yet u to Mars, but for a mere 100k I'll get u to the Titanic in a plastic submarine........I promise!
Not even a moon base, and were talking about calling the red planet home.
Uploading our consciousness to the space-time continuum is probably more likely. lol
Bravo Mega team! Easily the most interesting episode in months! Nicely presented Simon!
I read of a concept to use lava tubes and seal them with inflatable doors/walls. And pressurize the resulting room. The soil and rock would shield the humans from cosmic radiation and sandstorms.
Inflatable doors?
Probably from Kim Stanley Robinson's Red Mars fiction book. First you have to find a lava tube:)
@@geradkavanagh8240that shouldnt be all that hard Olympus mons is the largest volcano in the solar system I'm sure there will be some around there although they may require some excavation I dont know about the inflatable door thing though I mean maybe as a very temporary solution but definately not long term
If he's still alive when the mission takes place, we should try real hard to make Matt Damon the actual "first guy on Mars".
And when he gets there, the first thing he says when stepping foot on Mars; the first words ever spoken by a human on the red planet... "Matt Damon"
Not the best idea, I don't think that doing 'saving Matt Damon' irl would be that fun
And leave him there alone for the full experience?
Yea, but he'll actually have to deal with the ⅓ gravity this time, which he somehow didn't need to deal with the first time around.
@@proto-geek248 sorry for the vulgar language, but I don't know how else to describe it. I think he was held down because of the overwhelming weight of his huge balls.
When Simon mentions the Czech Republic feels odd, changes all the lore that I had built in my head about this talking Wikipedia. I had always thought you had lived in a small flat, in a remote area of the world. Only to be visited occasionally when someone needs a question answered.
I still believe Simon needs help and is stuck somewhere against his will.
I think he was grown in a lab and programmed in the CR.
Excellent presentation. Thank-you
That moment when you realize you could bake bread domes on Mars. And people could live in them.
To quote futurama 'it's food or shelter, not both'
Sounds like a great idea until someone literally eats all the settlers out of house and home.
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I was thinking along the same lines. Since Mars has all that ultra-violet radiation raining down, might as well put it to good use. In fact, I'll bet it could have a LOT of good uses.
I feel like Simon gets more SciFi nerdy the longer he is on TH-cam
Love your channels and topics, you already had all the points, but now Czech republic. Díky
Getting to mars is like waiting for star citizen and its single player campain to fully release.
If we have the technology to terraform another planet to make it habitable, then we have the technology to fix the problems on earth. Earth is already habitable, Mars isn't and won't be for decades or centuries, so if the reason we're trying to get to Mars is because of the problems we have here, that's just smooth brain. If it's for research or a refueling station for further exploration of our solar system, that at least makes sense.
I mean I'm pretty sure we can make giant underground cities but for surface we don't have the magnetosphere
@@mobo8933Yup, but we can live underground here on earth and save nine months of travel time.
Earth is infested by selfish idiotic humans who cannot stop ruining their home. You can't do anything about them or else people start complaining about "war crimes", so what option do we have than to terraform a new planet? One would hope that a culture that has spent centuries creating a livable biosphere would appreciate the need to keep said biosphere livable.
@battlesheep2552 It'd be the same idiots going to Mars. You aren't going to change basic human behavior by moving to a different planet. If you want the way humans behave to change, your best bet is to keep hoping for the nuclear exchange between U.S. and Russia. The end of humanity is the only thing that will change it for the better.
Outer Space doesn't exist.Earth is the only World there is.There are no other Physical Cosmic
Worlds out there and there is no Infinite Cosmic Spatial Vacuum Void.Outer Space has "3 Enormous Problems":Problem 1 - Survivability - Cosmic Space is completely and inherently uninhabitable,
inhospitable and unliveable.This doesn't seem/feel right.If Outer Space truly existed
it should therefore be completely and inherently habitable,hospitable and liveable.If Outer Space was real it would be 100% welcoming of All-potential Beings,Creatures and Life-forms.This means that Outer Space must be "Breathable",because otherwise Everyone and Everything would immediately and perpetually suffocate and no Life-forms would ever emerge or survive in such a lethal Cosmic Universe.Problem 2 - Cosmic Travel - All-vehicles must push "Something" in order to move and go "Somewhere".In Earth's Atmosphere Automobiles push "Air" to move,Airplanes also push "Air" to move and Cruise Ships push "Water" to move,but Outer Space has no Atmosphere.You cannot travel to/in Outer Space,because The Vacuum of Space neutralizes All-pushing power/travel power.This means that Space Travel is impossible,that No One has ever left The Earth,that No One has ever traveled to Space and that every single Space Mission from the beginning to today is a lie.If Outer Space truly existed it would need to have an "Atmosphere" in order for Outer Space Travel to be possible.Problem 3 - Vast Separation - Celestial Space is just far too tremendously vast as a territory.All-Life-forms are separated,because of the "Humongous Distance" between them.This is not convenient.If Outer Space was real it wouldn't be so gargantuan,because it has to be much smaller and more "Tightly-Knit",so that All-potential Life-forms can locate and
discover each other.Outer Space is a lie designed in order to convince The Public that Extraterrestrial Beings exist.The total "Inhospitableness" and "Unfeasibility" of Outer Space proves that Outer Space cannot exist,because Outer Space doesn't exist!
Gratz on 1 mil subs! :)
Would love to see a similar video about the possibility of building cloud colonies over Venus!
Solar radiation would be a bitch:)
@GeoffTaucer, sure thing and an amusement park in the rings if Saturn and make Pluto Into a waterpark, whoo hoo!!
@@geradkavanagh8240 less so than on Mars, actually, because even for a cloud colony, there would still be enough atmosphere overhead to shield it
Funny thing with the self healing concrete is that the Roman’s used it, so like 2000 years later the Roman Empires influence still exists and is expanding, lol.
Nice overview. Resource management is as big a challenge as getting there
Low gravity, no magnetic field, very abrasive sand. Questionable if there is enough extractable water and oxygen. We struggle to maintain a base in Antarctica. I think it's a dead end.
Correct 👍 conditions on Everest are better than mars and you don't see people rushing to live there
Astroid impacts could be an issue. With little atmosphere to slow incoming objects.
Mars is a dead planet with virtually none of the stuff required to support earth based life and the stuff that does exist there is in very small quantities.... so we'll have to bring most stuff with us and if we have to do that, we might as well stay on the Earth.
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Asteroid mining will be robotic and scientists on Mars will not be colonists. No colonists on Antarctica either because even that is so darn inhospitable that only scientists, engineers, core support staff and a few adventurers live there - temporarily!
The British station is an ideal example of how it should be done
I did enjoy the chapter titles, using lines from The War of the Worlds :)
Why not refit the international space station and land that on Mars? They’re just going to let it slip back into earth orbit and blow up/ sink into the atmosphere and then Atlantic Ocean anyway? But if it was wrecked on mars, it’d be a pretty good source of materials ready to use
"Landing" is more like crashing in most cases, even for things designed to land on other planets. I'd also imagine the debris field it would create would be a pain to deal with and could contaminate scientific research etc. The station is pretty beat up too, lots of biological corrosion inside and micro impacts on the outside.
@@theofficialken1755another happy Landing
Cheaper to build purpose built,
Able to withstand a gravity well
Considering how much math and material goes in to landing a SUV size rover I doubt a refit of the ISS would be simple.
Odds are it would cost substantially more to do that than just build something designed to go to mars. Especially since it’s already in space
If we’re serious about a colony on mars it will have to be underground. The first shelters need the ability to access the ground underneath for excavation. Or we need to investigate lava tubes much more thoroughly and develop the first habitats with the ability to be deployed inside. We would need a system to form a pressure seal within a segment of a lava tube.
Not even underground shelters will allow humans to live on Mars.
That will never ever happen. Not now, and not in 1,000 years from now.
Mars is a death trap, and people will go there and return, just like Antarctica today - no one will ever live there.
One you didn't mention is the Mars Homestead, phase 1, the Hillside Settlement. This is a project of the Mars Foundation. One key technology is bricks. Pack Mars regolith in a brick mold and bake it. Not as strong as concrete, but it is as strong as a brick. Then use ancient Roman building techniques: barrel vaults, groin vaults, etc. pile enough regolith on top that the weight is greater than air pressure inside, so air pressure doesn't blow out the bricks. For mortar, make Portland cement from Mars regolith. To ensure mortar joints don't leak air, spray a polymer sealant on the inside of the brick wall. Doors and windows won't have the weight of regolith (Mars dirt) so will need a short tunnel of something more substantial: steel, aluminum, or fiberglass. Use tempered glass for windows. White sand has already been found by Mars rivers, melt that for glass. Opportunity rover found hematite concretions, ideal iron ore. And a mining company in Sweden developed a technice to process anorthite ore to make aluminum. Similar to how we process bauxite, but reverse the pH. Final electrolysis of aluminum oxide is the same. Mars doesn't have bauxite, because that's created by tropical rainforests. No rainforest, no bauxite. But Mars does have anorthite.
Building this would require sending tools with a rocket as large as a Saturn V. NASA's and SpaceX Starship are that big. Moving Mars Dirt will require a track vehicle as large as a Skid-stear loader such as a Bobcat. These exist, their called mini-track loaders. Mars atmosphere is thin with no oxygen so the vehicles will have to be battery-electric.
www.marsfoundation.org/hillside-settlement
My best friend in highschool and I used to always have this fantasy about living on Mars, like settlers trying to get away from civilization. Now we're grown up and still share a more realistic fascination with space colonization in general, but Mars is always the dominant interest.
Hahahahaha yeah and it will remain a fantasy forever.
loads of robots could definitely make the difference surprisingly quickly after say 100, 200, 300 years, you can easily imagine a successful attempt especially with AI
First we need a moon base for easier launches
While also providing nuclear power for earth. Beam that stuff down, have a few space ports a city or three, and we'd be good to go.
@@PatchyConvert exactly. I'd prefer an orbital space station above earth with a possible sky tower to ferry materials up and down
@spritemon98 Why not a group of orbital rings? Have each one built to transfer energy beamed down from the moon. With orbital landing areas, with tourist and local recreation destinations.
@@PatchyConvert that might screw up the farming on the surface from the ring shadow's
@spritemon98 Not if the bottom has mirrors or even lights that simulate the day cycle.
Excellent video. The Mars Travellers Handbook covers a lot of this and more.
Simon, I always appreciate the endings of your videos!! The hope you give in showing that we can make a positive difference in Earth’s history. I love the music as well. Totally sets a positive tone! Appreciate you and your crew for the many videos amongst countless channels that inform me, give me hope, and show what can be! 👍🏽🏴☠️
I always liked the one way trip idea for Mars. Going there knowing you aren't coming home. Building up the area for the next generations. f
It's a great idea, especially for those staying behind.
If you want that kind of experience, move to Australia 😆
Except it's a very very bad idea.
Sad as it is to say, I doubt I will ever see this happen. If there were ever a drive for volunteers, I would be one of the first to step forward. That said, it seems such a chance will ever manifest. 😢
Step forward and you might not even make it there
@joethompson7897 Never step forward, and you really won't.
Agreed. Even a manned mission would be highly improbable.
@proto-geek248 Doubley so, with our current lack of space based infrastructure. A firm moon base with a space elevator and well developed ship manufacturing. Will be paramount to success.
@@PatchyConvert We'll have ground-based & orbital moon bases manned similarly to ISS, but a space elevator? We'll see about that. Sounds like another science fiction pipe dream.
12:05 “Marsha, Marsha, Marsha!”
One of the said weird scientists here on almost similar scale. I made my bachelor's thesis for NASA about moon bases back in the 2008. One of the most promising techniques for actually producing one was lava-tubes. These are similar volcanic features that are found on Hawaii on Earth, but due to lower gravity on both Moon and Mars they would be much bigger. The key benefits from these versus conventional structures is that super-structure already exists, they're covered by regolith and are extremely stable, having stood there un-collapsed for millions of years. So all you need is the ability to hermetically seal both ends, so airlock in other and just collapse and seal other end. It's super low-cost, well protected from radiation and micro-meteorites and easily sealed into air-tight chambers that can be used as anything. Also since in both Moon and Mars these features are usually many kilometers or even hundreds of kilometers long then scaling it up isn't much an issue either.
So we started as caveman and if we don't kill ourselves first, second parts of our civilization could start as cavemen as well :)
Why does Simon live in the Czech Republic? And why doesn't he know they want to be called Czechia?
I think the first people on Mars are going to use inflatable habitats, and the landers will be much of the storage space. It's going to suck for the people there, but it will be a start, and things can expand from there. Any or all of these options can be tried, with the best ones going on to full production and the worst ones being abandoned.
If there ever are people going there, which is dubious, they’ll be dead in their inflatables
great episode!!!!!!
Cool stuff, thanks for sharing.
Housing is basically caves we build above ground, so why not just build underground? It's better protected from radiation and makes use of the volcanically and tectonically dead planet as a building material.
Is it possible? Yes.
Do you really want to be the one to go there? NO!
Just LARP it by living in a cave in a desert without any internet access and you'll quickly learn why anyone sent to Mars would want a return trip *REAL* quick
Internet on Mars is possible but it will be slower than old dialup.
@@darkstorminc
With Starlink bandwidth won't be an issue. Lag unfortunately will be bad though.
@@andrasbiro3007 Data transmission costs to mars is something like half a million dollars per megabyte. Starlink would have no effect since all those satellites are for the surface of Earth.
@@darkstorminc We measure latency in milliseconds here on Earth, for someone on Mars it is at a MINIMUM 4 minutes, up to 20 minutes - that's ONE way too
@@drg9812
You missed the part where SpaceX will deploy a Starlink network for Mars too. And from there connecting the two is easy, a laser beam can achieve Tbps level bandwiths.
Two major hurdles yet to be overcome: 1. Radiation 2. Lack of gravity. Until they figure out those I don't see a sustained colony happening.
There is gravity and the radiation is not that dangerous
Good one Simon and Morris M. Now I have to rewatch The Martian.
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We couldn’t even live in the desert in the biodome.
Biosphere 2 was an epic failure so to think humans would ever be able to live beyond our planet is nonsense as astronauts would be lucky to make the trip to Mars and return to Earth let alone ever be able to call Mars home.
no it wasn't, a .l,ot of data was created.
Surface dwellings would suffer from temperature shifts which would cost too much energy to solve.
The air inside any sizable surface structure will expand and contract on a daily cycle, on earth it just equalizes with the outside air, on Mars that isn't an option.
Habitats need to be protected from sun, dust, pressure and radiation.
Burying habitats in regolith is a questionable too, it is an excellent insulator, so would require too much energy to maintain at a suitable temperature.
A recent NASA study found that a habitat buried in regolith would overheat dangerously.
Equipment storage was mentioned, and that would be a huge issue.
Dust makes external storage problematic, giant caves pressurized with CO2 is the cheapest solution.
As long as you're doing that, you inflate your habitats in those caves to shield them from radiation, temperature shifts, dust etc etc
Deeper caves could be pressurized with air, once a reliable seal has been established.
Sunlight and views can be piped in with sun-tubes and reflectors.
Surface greenhouses can't be exposed to the Martian sky, the radiation will kill the plants.
Experiments will be needed to see if plants can be grown with reflected sunlight, without exposing them to direct or reflected radiation.
Growing fungi structures is an interesting line of thought, a lot of 'outside the box' thinking like that would be required.
How to build a Mars base is a difficult puzzle to tackle! :)
But I think we could have a safe crewed science base on Mars by the end of the century if we crack on....
Richard Burtons voice echoing in the back of my head, reading the War of the Worlds naratives. Thanks for the nostalgia.
There are some that says humans trying to colonize Mars would be incredibly stupid.
Yep, one right here.
Waste of time, resources and human beings who will inevitably perish on Mars.
Outer Space doesn't exist.Earth is the only World there is.There are no other Physical Cosmic
Worlds out there and there is no Infinite Cosmic Spatial Vacuum Void.Outer Space has "3 Enormous Problems":Problem 1 - Survivability - Cosmic Space is completely and inherently uninhabitable,
inhospitable and unliveable.This doesn't seem/feel right.If Outer Space truly existed
it should therefore be completely and inherently habitable,hospitable and liveable.If Outer Space was real it would be 100% welcoming of All-potential Beings,Creatures and Life-forms.This means that Outer Space must be "Breathable",because otherwise Everyone and Everything would immediately and perpetually suffocate and no Life-forms would ever emerge or survive in such a lethal Cosmic Universe.Problem 2 - Cosmic Travel - All-vehicles must push "Something" in order to move and go "Somewhere".In Earth's Atmosphere Automobiles push "Air" to move,Airplanes also push "Air" to move and Cruise Ships push "Water" to move,but Outer Space has no Atmosphere.You cannot travel to/in Outer Space,because The Vacuum of Space neutralizes All-pushing power/travel power.This means that Space Travel is impossible,that No One has ever left The Earth,that No One has ever traveled to Space and that every single Space Mission from the beginning to today is a lie.If Outer Space truly existed it would need to have an "Atmosphere" in order for Outer Space Travel to be possible.Problem 3 - Vast Separation - Celestial Space is just far too tremendously vast as a territory.All-Life-forms are separated,because of the "Humongous Distance" between them.This is not convenient.If Outer Space was real it wouldn't be so gargantuan,because it has to be much smaller and more "Tightly-Knit",so that All-potential Life-forms can locate and
discover each other.Outer Space is a lie designed in order to convince The Public that Extraterrestrial Beings exist.The total "Inhospitableness" and "Unfeasibility" of Outer Space proves that Outer Space cannot exist,because Outer Space doesn't exist!
@@themog4911we have plenty, no one will miss a thousand or 2. Lokk up how many of the Jamestown and Plymouth colonies died the first year
@@themog4911They'll inevitably perish on Earth.
I'd prefer more sea exploration myself
I think the exploration of space will produce technology that could be adapted to the purpose of ocean exploration. The two will likely come together.
buy a boat or yaght
@@sharonbraselton4302 a yaght? 😆 WTF is a yaght?! 😆😆😆
Best look at this I've ever seen as a book: Packing for Mars
Simon dude
Please please please never stop ♥️
At our current rate of tech development in about 50 years . Musk is actually setting us back .
Yup1 We should be focusing on sending drones first, then maybe once we have somewhere to live we can ship ourselves over there in induced comas, packed into a radiation shielded cargo pod to be revived remotely. We figure that out, we can go to Mars maybe. If we ever want to - which honestly I don't. Earth is enough for me - space can be used for resources and industry, but its so hostile to human life it would be pure punishment to go.
Living on Mars would make even the most inhospitable place on Earth seem like a paradise by comparison.
I find it curious that some scientists seemingly can't wait to pollute Mars with earth organisms before we have a full chance to figure out whether Mars ever had life of its own. And that question is far more important than whether or not humans could ever plant a tiny base there.
Curling rink at McMurdo? Didn't see it.
7:56 So it’s much like your studio then? *sick burn mic drop*
Arnold Schwarzenegger wants to go to Mars.
Does he totally not recall that he's been there before?
*Yes but that time he WON'T BE back !! 😁*
@@mwolkove He just needs to open his miiiiind open his miiind 😮
When we settle Mars: No Irish
Blazing Saddles
😂
No tourist's. They don't offer anything to the Colony
I would love to learn more about the B-36 Bomber, I just read about it and it seems pretty interesting! Worthy of at least a Side Projects video, IMHO
At 5:00 mark. Probably easier to build a base on Mars than the moon as there is some (albeit minuscule) atmosphere there that can be pumped into storage and converted via some well-known chemical processes into Oxygen and water. Let's not forget the need for Nitrogen to dilute the basic air mix below instant flammability. From my reading, it seems Mars is a bit short of Nitrogen. Distance is the main obstacle. Remote controlled and AI driven robotic 'builder' units would need to be placed years ahead of the first human setting foot on mars if we want a truly permanent foothold. Alternative is to have all the supplies required dumped at an exact location and a large crew of humans to construct a base very quickly. Reason for fast construction is because anyone on the surface would want to shield themselves from the solar radiation there.
Surely I can’t be the only man for whom the thought of colonies in the surface of Mars never crossed my mind let alone was never desired?
As long as people can't live on the mount Everest, I think we can't travel to Mars
We could relatively easily. All we would need is efficient transportation. Oh wait 🚁
The biggest problem of Mars isn't Mars itself but the long travel time and also the limited launch windows to reduce this long travel time. Which means you can't help, resupply or do anything fast. You should really prepare a human landing well, with an autonomous base, and huge amounts of food and water placed before.
Instead to the moon, you can travel in a few days, every day, and anytime. You can also do remote work since the lag is very short.
Matt Damon appreciates all the hard work preparing for the journey 😂
A trip to Mars would be a horrible waste of money. Even another trip to the moon would be a waste. No more manned missions to a dead moon or planet. The hard science is actually done by unmanned missions.
It's a better use of money compared to the overblown military budget for the US government
@@spritemon98I think these are more your own ideological preoccupations than anything else.
@@spritemon98 Our military budget could be reduced considerably with better oversight. Project management in military R&D is a sad joke. If the scope of the project is changed multiple times, a fortune has been wasted. Unfortunately that's how the Pentagon and the military industrial complex works.
Read "The Pentagon Wars". The movie is a satire and not that good.
“Waste of money”
Nobody cares about the trivia that is your “hard science”, we’re not trying to put people there to study them. Your way of thinking is asinine and has held us back for 50 years.
Also, I’ll notice when we spend trillions of dollars collectively on mere entertainment, nobody breaks out the “waste of money” spiel. Only when space comes up does some idiot whine about money and costs. You don’t complain when Hollywood spends half a billion dollars on a movie you watch once for two hours and never see again.
Or, we could fix earth 😢
Sanctimonious drivel.
Everyone seems to forget the fact that sulphur is more abundant in Martian regolith. Extract it and use allotropic amorphous form of sulphur as a form of mortar for use in building.
13:19 How much of it is printable, though? Certainly it would just be the shell and the astronauts would have to bring furniture (or more likely, print it when they get there).
I know they’re working on double or triple paned windows that include a layer of transparent solar material. I know at the current stage they’re quite expensive, if producible, but would be a valuable item; however that again is something that would need to be installed and couldn’t be 3D printed.
oowie, another of these videos of yours. lemme take your points apart as always:
- no serious/smart person would start with mars. you start with the moon and make a big space haven there to help with other projects like mars bc it's much easier and safer, while also being more useful more short to medium term
- ok so you name dropped some out there ideas, but the ones you explained were pretty good. starch can easily be transported. imagine a freight ship loaded with flour. done.
- it's not even close to magic, there is hard science behind it and productive experiments are being done as we speak. bacteria are awesome. just make videos on some stems so you learn a bit
Outer Space doesn't exist.Earth is the only World there is.There are no other Physical Cosmic
Worlds out there and there is no Infinite Cosmic Spatial Vacuum Void.Outer Space has "3 Enormous Problems":Problem 1 - Survivability - Cosmic Space is completely and inherently uninhabitable,
inhospitable and unliveable.This doesn't seem/feel right.If Outer Space truly existed
it should therefore be completely and inherently habitable,hospitable and liveable.If Outer Space was real it would be 100% welcoming of All-potential Beings,Creatures and Life-forms.This means that Outer Space must be "Breathable",because otherwise Everyone and Everything would immediately and perpetually suffocate and no Life-forms would ever emerge or survive in such a lethal Cosmic Universe.Problem 2 - Cosmic Travel - All-vehicles must push "Something" in order to move and go "Somewhere".In Earth's Atmosphere Automobiles push "Air" to move,Airplanes also push "Air" to move and Cruise Ships push "Water" to move,but Outer Space has no Atmosphere.You cannot travel to/in Outer Space,because The Vacuum of Space neutralizes All-pushing power/travel power.This means that Space Travel is impossible,that No One has ever left The Earth,that No One has ever traveled to Space and that every single Space Mission from the beginning to today is a lie.If Outer Space truly existed it would need to have an "Atmosphere" in order for Outer Space Travel to be possible.Problem 3 - Vast Separation - Celestial Space is just far too tremendously vast as a territory.All-Life-forms are separated,because of the "Humongous Distance" between them.This is not convenient.If Outer Space was real it wouldn't be so gargantuan,because it has to be much smaller and more "Tightly-Knit",so that All-potential Life-forms can locate and
discover each other.Outer Space is a lie designed in order to convince The Public that Extraterrestrial Beings exist.The total "Inhospitableness" and "Unfeasibility" of Outer Space proves that Outer Space cannot exist,because Outer Space doesn't exist!
We always need more closet space.
You could also extract lactic acid monomers from human muscles and react it into its polymer (PLA) form, thus meaning you wouldn’t have to wait for/ rely on plant growth to acquire additional building materials.
500-1000 years because this nonsense is brought up every decade and then dropped.
You’ve been living under a rock huh
Except now we have companies actually trying to do it. NASA has hardly had any funding since the Apollo so they never really worked on trying. Plus SLS was going so slow but now it does work.
After they go back to the moon I'm sure things will start to go quick.
You clowns replying have no idea what you’re talking about. It would take decades to build anything and the planet, if you haven’t noticed, is deadly. So humans living in Mars like we do Earth will never happen. Not by us.
@@Bruh-wb3qw (so TH-cam hates links) this video explains why it’s a stupid idea “Why Mars Colonization is a Dangerous and Stupid Idea” by Adam Something
@@TheJudge_Carls_Junior_Rep nobody said it isn’t a stupid and dangerous idea, it absolutely is. But that won’t stop humans from trying. 500 years? Try 100-200
12:57 I kinda want one here on Earth just for the novelty.
5:10 "Building them on Mars is like some sort of dystopian version of baseball played with live hand grenades on a pitch made out of acid." In other words... a game of Kricket. (HHG2G)
11:54 - Ingenious idea NASA! 😮
IMO (and what do I know?) we need like a decade of robotic missions before our first crewed mission. That should give us like 5 missions to build up habitats, store resources and establish crops. The first crewed missions will be dangerous as it is and we need to do as much as possible to mitigate those dangers. Having said that though I want to get there ASAP. ; P
Technically, as a McMurdo resident, I would look at the South Pole station and not Mcmurdo for a study on a Mars Base.
16:45 The MOXIE experiment was literally the most important and well known experiment :P The entirety of future habitation hinges on being able to extract oxygen and hydrogen from the environment to manufacture rocket fuel and air/water
Matt Damon built a house from clingfilm mate.
No very. Radiation is a big deal. Surface temp, no healthy sunshine, confined spaces, I doubt we’ll see more than a few people go in my lifetime. And I fear for a team being sent, even if a mars base gets set up, they only need to encounter one moderate catastrophe and then we’ll have lost someone in space.
Greatly illustrated.
I never would have guessed Simon lives in the Czech Republic. I knew I was going to learn things watching this video but that was not something I had dissipated learning lol
Thanks for the video.
Very optimistic and beautiful outro, thanks for posting.
Now that's a sponsor worth hearing about.
Are we going to build the required materials on the other plant I feel like using the materials from there is better then shipping all of it
It is a matter of logistics that aren't yet in place. Firstly, geting objects into orbit, but then having an orbital refueling platform. You will also need orbital constru- tion platform. You will have to have food and oxygen. Ideally, I would believe a luna base would be a good move.
It’s gonna be 100 years before we can do that
First, we have to learn to get along enough to build something