The Mars Sample Return Mission: Bringing Back Rocks from the Red Planet
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It's too late for me. Mine started disappearing at 18. My dad still has most of his… bastard.
who cares about some crummy rocks. they wont sent automated microscopes. why?
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"Far faster than even a bullet. Or retreating russian soldier." 🤣
😊. Like!
They're really going to load up 30 priceless samples into a saucer, aim it down at a random Utah desert, and just let gravity take the wheel. Holy smokes, Batman.
@@tst-ccntcan I have some of what you’re on please mate?… it must be really good stuff!
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@@tst-ccnt 🤦🏼♂️
@tst ccnt ... By having more flying saucers shot at them... just by... other humans? 'Cause if this were indeed the will of the Utah-ans (and not just a matter of convenience), it would sound more like they've come to enjoy it... (and all those tourist dollars do seem to confirm that)
Possession is 9/10ths of the law. Ima get there first, and take possession.
Damn this is more complex than the plot to bring Mark Watney home in The Martian.
Seriously though, this is one seriously complicated project with so many things that could go wrong at every stage. Good luck NASA...I have a feeling they'll need it!
12:00 "Far faster than even a bullet, or a retreating Russian soldier."
This is why I love this channel
I used to mow lawns for a living because of the instant gratification.
I eventually did somethings that qualified me for "higher" positions and more or less lucked my way into personally building the heat shield for the Earth Entry Vehicle.
My work is literally the final step in tens of thounsands of human-years worth of work with a decade+ lead time of gratification....
no pressure, eh? :)
So it's between them and Boston Dynamics for who comes up with the best Sci Fi apocalypse . Maybe the Mars zombie virus eventually overwhelms the robots .... but too late for humanity .... or is there a sequel?
"Not as simple..." That you said that with a straight face, Simon...
Sounds like a KSP test is in order ... Nice =)
I remember a rumor that a semi official note was going around at nasa saying "it works in ksp" is not a valid data point to infer critical mission direction
The samples will be placed in good hands.
The Umbrella Corporation.
All in favor of Simon naming rockets from now on say "aye." Aye, because i want a rocket to be called a "god damn rocket"
Aye
Aye and another called big brain
Simon, the way this mission ends by crashing a space probe into the desert, is uncomfortably reminiscent of the Science Fiction novel (and movie), The Andromeda Strain, by Micheal Crichton. The plot focuses on a secret military satellite (because of course it does) that crashes in the Arizona desert and releases a deadly virus that threatens the extinction of humanity.
I like to point out to any who look at the price tag, this isn't just for shits and giggles. The technology developed in these missions do come back to help us. Computers are the best example, computers had a big help because nasa demanded better ones for calculations which in turn helped the wheels of innovation turn which then came back too use in the form of all our tech today.
Very true. Same for military spending. Thanks for GPS. Funny how all this is paid for by the US, specifically the American taxpayers, but the world will benefit. Yet we're still maligned by people around the world. A little gratitude would be nice once and a while. And cue the negative comments...
The engineers are going to have to design, build and test the most technologically advanced Rube Goldberg machine spanning a distance like no other to return those samples! Awesome!
Faster than a retreating russian soldier hahaha
Would like to compliment the team once again on a GREAT script, with some wonderful moments of humor - and also to say thank you for pointing out the pure folly of acting like we can't spend on NASA and also spend on things like SNAP. The numbers get hard to grasp, but as someone whose life was literally saved by having that kind of help - I appreciate the way you pointed out how things really stack up.
Your skill set as a speaker and story teller just hit 1000 in my book. You and your team are awesome. Your content is amazing. THANK YOU
09:00 - One factor in deciding to not have the fetch rover is that *Curiosity* is still going strong after 10 years on Mars. The similarities between Curiosity and Perseverance mean that this gives NASA confidence that Perseverance can also last at least that long.
Watch the 2017 movie Life. It's a horror sci-fi film about this, and it was super creepy.
That said Im not sure it qualifies as sci-fi.
eh yeah it does, the rate that thing was evolving and growing? it would have quite literally melted itself apart from the amount of heat generated by its cells
"Faster than a retreating Russian soldier" 🤣🤣🤣🤣The rapier wit of Simon!
Previous upload, he took a very subtle crack at Trump.
@@borysnijinski331 It's an improvement from all the Hitler bashing he does and the defeaning silence on the CCP leadership
@@engineeringvision9507 You might want to get your ears checked if you think Simon is silent on the CCP. As for the Hitler bashing? Sorry to tell ya, but there will never be too much Hitler bashing. The entire population of the Earth could bash on him and it still wouldn't be. If you feel like there's too much, that says questionable things about you.
@@griffinmckenzie7203 I got my ears checked and they were judged as "in excellent condition and accurate judges of the truth". Your ears are clearly broken.
@@engineeringvision9507 lmfao. No. Enjoy your delusions, though
Love your videos, what you present and your sense of humor. LOL!
We must also remember that many benefit from the technological advancements NASA makes in creating these kind of rockets etc.
yeah, like nuking each other into oblivion.
@@Youre-so-right It's the other Way around. Without the USA and USSR wanting to compare their Missiles, we might have never reached Space at all. The Mercury and Gemini Programs launched on repurposed Nuclear Missiles, and unmanned Launches did so for much longer. The Soyuz and Proton Rockets are based on Missiles too.
@@Genius_at_Work and... you make it sound like all the wasted money these countries have used going to space is somehow worth while? i beg to differ pal... just a dick waving contest between two little dick countries that overcompensate with weapons lmao
@@Youre-so-right Just think of all the Things relying on Satellites. GPS, Weather Forecasts and Communication, just to name the most prevalent in Daily Life. You may not even be writing silly Comments here without "Billions being wasted in Space".
@@Genius_at_Work i couldnt give a flying fuck if all of them things were smashed beyond repair, i for one wouldnt miss the internet, my phone ringing or not getting a email..
Imho the internet and all forms of modern tech have made us a lazy, self centred species who think were better than we actually are..
If youre happy to waste your money funding this BS, then you do you.. wont matter all that much when the inevitable happens and nuclear armageddon wipes our pathetic species off this planet... hopefully sooner rather than later.
This is pretty fascinating stuff, very well explained!
Not really. Humans will have landed there before they send it back !!
06:55 - That Astronaut dud - "WEEEE" Hahaha 🤣🤣🤣👌 😎🇬🇧
My main question is how they will find the samples dropped on the surface of Mars. They will be laying on the ground for years, potentially through dust storms. I hope they have some sort of transmitter, beeping out their location, and that whatever retrieval system comes for them has a shovel.
It's like NASA has never seen a Sci Fi Horror movie ever.
What a fine idea. Go to Mars,get rocks, return to Earth, unleash interstellar virus on Earth. What could possibly go wrong?
yeah thats a fun thought if you have literally zero idea of how space works
any virus that travels through ghe void would be utterly sterile by the time it arrived on earth
Love the space mission videos Simon 😊😊
Ten Years After ... maybe ... if everything works right. Either NASA already knows or doesn't want to know.
Why not experiment on the rocks in space on the iss?
That would require the returning spacecraft to have enough fuel to slow down and settle into orbit around the Earth. As Simon pointed out in his video about the Mercury spacecraft getting to an inner planet is harder than getting to an outer one. The return spacecraft would most likely have to use Earth and possibly both Mars and Venus in braking manoeuvres in the same way Beppi-Columbo has to use multiple flybys of Earth and Venus to get to Mercury. Doing it this way greatly simplifies things and makes the returning craft much lighter.
@@randalscott7224 Getting back from Mars too Earth needs exactly as much Fuel as getting there in the first Place. Mercury needs so much Fuel because it's so close to the Sun. The closer you are to a Gravity Well, the faster your Orbital Speed becomes. Meaning to say Proximity is important, but whether you travel inwards or outwards is not. Everything else you said is correct though.
Wait, Simon, you're telling me that NASA does NOT work on the same business model as the Underpants Knomes?
South Park reference is legendary 🙌 🤣
All this is somehow easier than sending something to analyze the samples on mars.
Only a fixed amount of experiments and instruments can be loaded onto a lander that, despite all the recent successes still has a high probability of crashing. Also, there may be new ways of analysing the samples not thought of when a laboratory lander is launched. Recently a batch of lunar rocks sealed for fifty years has been opened to be examined by methods unheard of when the Apollo astronauts brought them to Earth.
Still waiting on a video about the F22 Raptor!!
Love these videos, and hearing about incredible missions rarely mentioned elsewhere.
Well, if anyone can do it, I guarantee the Engineering Gods at the Jet Propulsion Labratory in California can do it with their eyes closed. and a case of beer. They are probably the most incredible group of innovators on the face of the planet. JMHO of course. but something they built to last 90 days, lasted fifteen years! I think we got our moneys worth!
The Skunk Works guys ain't too shabby either!
Working on something for years and then waiting for over a decade to see if it works...such tremendous mental stress...and here I am completing projects for the sake of getting them done ASAP and not wanting to follow up on them afterwards, just to move on to the next project...
I used to mow lawns for a living because of the instant gratification.
I eventually did somethings that qualified me for "higher" positions and more or less lucked my way into personally building the heat shield for the Earth Entry Vehicle.
My work is literally the final step in tens of thounsands of human-years worth of work with a decade+ lead time of gratification....
no pressure, eh? :)
retreating russian soldier is a best joke I heard in a long time. great video, thanks!
I thought it was a really unnecessary childish quip, a lame political verbal fart on an otherwise really interesting video... Silly.
So the end plan for bringing samples possibly containing fossils is going to be just letting it hit the ground? We had a rocket crane lower an SUV but super precious samples it's just "hey remember that really fun egg drop thing in elementary."
It would seem cheaper to send the lab to Mars. Oh, hold on, they did that in the 70s on Viking and discovered life them.
12:00 sick BURN 🤣
I'm not the greatest at physics, but dropping something on earth will reach terminal velocity. How is that a test for something coming from space at thousands of miles an hour??????
"Based on a piston system"... instant PTSD flashbacks from "Space Engineers"
this is literally the biggest megaproject. good job mr whistler
The Mars Guy channel is a great source of detailed info on the Perseverance mission which is taking the samples.
@Megaprojects team how about a video on the ITER project? Assuming I haven't missed one you've already done...
A super pathogen?
Come now.
NASA has talked about life from Mars perhaps seeding life on Earth. But since Earth is so rich in life, then maybe the converse has happened. If some large asteroid hit earth in the past and blasted some simple life to Mars, then finding evidence of life on Mars might simply represent some ancient contamination from Earth. Just a thought. Great video, Simon.
one of your best videos Simon!!!!!!
Kieth Richards most probably still be around when they ultimately find out if life exists / existed on Mars.
Great video Simon, thx
“It’s not the girth...” heh. where’s the girth certificate? What was it that Martian guy in “Infinite Warfare said?”
God Damn Rocket Ship sounds like a sweet name for a metal band
Interesting and informative as always 👍
Keep up the excellent work Sir 👏
Fantastic writing on this one. Two thumbs up
12:03 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Simon I did enjoy that Russian soldier comment. Great video
Why drop the sample tubes? It's easier and much more reliable to collect them from 1 place.
I don't get why they don't just have the Iss catch it in space instead of crashing it into the earth.
Because then you'd have to slow it down enough in order to reach Earth Orbit. The Samples come in at Interplanetary Speed, which would cause them to shoot well past Earth and back into Interplanetary Space. Braking means burning Fuel, which adds a lot of Weight. Crashing down in Utah means aiming at the Atmosphere and using Air Drag to slow it down.
I maintain that getting Simon to sell hair-loss treatments is like using Taylor Swift to inform kids of how singing isn’t a lucrative career
Thanks Simon! This is a great video full of great ideas for engineering.
I'm not convinced that NASA and the ESA have everything figured out yet. The ideas are so complex, a sign of bad engineering, and require such small tolerances for the various processes, especially the various difficulties inherent in getting the capsule full of sample containers into the Mars orbiter/Earth transfer vehicle, that I am concerned about a high chance of failure.
The great comment below recommending that the samples be captured in Earth orbit and brought back to a soft landing is an example of another, better, idea that is out there (although I can see that this approach would cost a lot more than just dropping it on Utah).
those rocks will probably be one of the most valuable things you can hold in your hand ever when they finally get here
And hopefully, NASA doesn't give samples away on condition that the samples be returned after a period of time or when the sample isn't needed, as they did with moon samples! A fiasco that goes insane when someone recovers a moon sample and tries to sell it...
The Mars Sampler socials pages (well FB) is amusing, posts are in the first person from the sampler's POV. Cute
If conclusive proof of life is found, the implications for possible answers to the Fermi paradox will be staggering
What if the goddamn rocket doesn't fire? Or doesn't go up, but shoots straight into the ground?
Btw, would you and Jenn want to make a trip to mundelein sometime? They got a weed lounge at a dispensary there. You can rent bongs and shit, make reservations, etc.
And I am a fan of the God damn rocket idea just because that's a news story I would actually watch. Imagine being at the launch pad and hearing "ten minutes to launch of goddamn rocket".
"the mechanism for throwing the goddamn rocket into the sky".
See that? That's science broken down Barney style so even a kid can understand it. We need this in primary schools.
Hello Simon! idk who handles recommendations for this particular channel, but american scientists have recently successfully carried out fusion fuel testing
Excellent video, kudos for addressing the thornier aspects of budgetary discretion, that’s a pretty challenging debate to navigate, but you guys made a complete and contextual case. Alliteration unintended!
The JWST is straightforward, Brain Boy. It receives and records the impacts of photons of a few different wavelengths.
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Supersonic rounds travel at least 1,000 meters per second. So it goes about four times faster, literally. But it certainly isn't that much faster; It's less than half of one order of magnitude. C'mon, dude.
I love how "this program you disagree with on principle is a mere fraction of this other program you also disagree with on principle" is perennially upheld as some sort of sensical argument.
You disagree with SNAP?
The argument is, basically, why are you so bent out of shape about this little bit, when there is a huge amount going other places. It's like being upset there is a rock in your path, when there is a huge wall just beyond it. Sure, you may find the rock irritating, but does it really matter?
@@QBCPerdition Tell you what, how about I come over and drop a 50lb boulder on your car hood, and then keep throwing pebbles at your windshield and then yell at you about how you shouldn't be upset about the pebbles because there's already a giant dent in your hood.
@fisharmor that's exactly how I would feel. The pebbles wouldn't bother me, because the boulder would be a much bigger problem. I don't think most people would be worried about some pebbles hitting their car if a boulder had smashed in the roof.
@@QBCPerdition That's not what I said. Which kind of explains why you are comfortable holding nonsensical positions.
@fisharmor I don't hold non-sensical opinions. 1) I strongly support NASA and scientific endeavors supported by federal funds. 2) You posed a question, and I answered it. Why do people point out that A is a fraction of B? Because people tend to be vocally opposed to A, without batting an eye at B, which IS a nonsensical position. And in your case, if you do indeed speak out against A and B, then good for you, but it still feels like wasting time to rail against the small thing, when you could be railing against the bigger thing. It's like having a compound fracture on your arm, but complaining about the paper cut on your finger. Sure, the paper cut isn't good, but there are much bigger things to be worried about.
This is definitely what I needed after listening to the Moors Murders on Casual Criminalist
The Mars astronaught ptsd is going to be interesting
A True Mega Project...
Having a hard time dealing with this in the context of reality. The theatre of it all is fine, but the planet is too far, too distant. It is one thing to manage to get to the moon, and land on the same, but Mars? Not convinced.
Anything's possible if we have the right people and funding. But in America making sure billionaires get more money is more important, so it won't happen for a while
Landing on Mars has been done. Landing something that can take off again is there next part
Them being able to get to mars and get rocks back to earth is mind blowing.
You have a very small mind then... its just space rock, we live on one.
Only differance is that rocks dead as a dodo, where as ours is still on a timer.
Truly wonderful the mind is. Taxing that from Yoda, but it’s an interesting thing. Imagine if, say in 20 or 30 or even 40 years, we as a society are able to journey to Mars, or Titan, or Europa by way of a hypothetical Lunar base (thanks for the dream ARTEMIS).
Imagine further and wonder what all we could do if we were able to harness the power of stars. That’s probably impossible, but you can never truly say “never”
I like how they're basically Saiyan-Podding the reentry.
That video doesn't show the capsule flying to the return vehicle, but rather the return vehicle matching orbits with the capsule, then presumably thrusting towards it, until it's caught.
I have a question. Buzz Aldrin talked about a space tug that could by gravity travel continuously from earth to mars - ie free travel - would it not be worth building and setting it in motion for continuous sampling mars?
Ok John, here a rope.
'Umm. What am I supposed to do with that?'
You're going to jump out of the spacecraft and grab the samples.
'WHAT!'
What is wrong with these NASA "Scientists"? Why not just email the Martian's and ask them to send us the rocks we collected? Yes, I am trying to be funny!! I find this whole subject mesmerizing and mind boggling!! Great Episode - Thank you 🙂
Try harder. Oof.
I really wish they would take the samples to a lab in space or the moon. I mean it's a dead planet for a reason.
Oooo I like the gulf of space
This is just one of those projects that absolutely must succeed. Finding life on Mars would be amazing! I have to somewhat wonder what teh religious people would say?
Will be funny when those sample tubes turn up empty because the drill bits didnt snap off the sample shaft
We know they did work. Pictures were taken of all of them after drilling and looked as expected.
Wouldn't it make more sense to have the samples retrieved by the ISS and returned to Earth in a controlled manner aboard a cargo capsule?
That didn’t work well in the movie lol
That would need way more Fuel and thus make everything too heavy
Nope.
This possibility was rejected due to safety concerns for the ISS.
Nice sript, russian reference included :) and as always exselent documentary ;)
Wouldn't it be easier and less risky to land a robotic lab on Mars and analyse the samples from there? Get a small rover to deliver them to this lab and you cut out most of the failure points of the mission plus you can continue using the lab for other studies after the initial samples are studied. Imagine chucking the rocket skyward and the engine not igniting, now you have a wrecked lander, a useless rocket and no way of retrieving the samples.
Yes. And it wouldn't need that much of a lab either.
No and they need practice leaving mars!
@@patrickday4206 There are ways of doing that without risking loosing years worth of samples and having to collect them again though.
...I'm very mad that I wasn't told all my previously useless "Gifted program egg drop" competitions were not actually useless.
Have you seen Mark Robers’ egg drop? He was one of the engineers that designed the Perseverance rover
Testing off a tower, just chuck it out the back of a plane at about 30,000 feet, you'll find out then, why piss around, go for the gold, better yet, put it in that rocket sled and really test it.
If the Tower was there already, using that is way cheaper than Airplanes. And once the Capsule reached Terminal Velocity, the Height doesn't matter anyway. Think of Skydivers not exceeding 50-70 m/s, No matter how high they jump off. It's the same with the Capsule, just probably a bit faster as it's more aerodynamic than a freefalling Skydiver.
Rocks also have been thrown into space from the Earth so we might find terrestrial microbes flourished on Mars.
I am in awe of the cleverness and just damn refusal to be beaten by engineers. I wish I'd trained to be one. Oh wait...
Great video.
You want ‘Calvin’? This is how you get ‘Calvin’…
Calvin the super unrealistic "supercell" that would have melted itself from the amount of heat its cells would be generating?
Ahhhhhh yeah!!!!
The next time a mining client complains to me about the cost per metre of drill samples, I will send them a link to this video.
6:55 , me voy a matar weeeeee 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I was not expecting that , it took me 5mi' to recover and keep watching.
And it took me another 5min to recover from the "faster than retreating Russian soldiers" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Simon : It will have to survive smashing into the ground at incredible speed.....designed by lockheed martin...
Me: It'll be fine. Lockheed got this
I feel like capturing the return vessel in orbit and bringing it home in a more controled manner makes more sense. I appreciate that the return vessel will be able to survive the impact but it's going to obliterate the samples undermining all the time money and effort put into getting them home in the first place.
That's an awesome idea! You are right, it makes much more sense. Thanks for sharing it.
Forgive me for speaking out of terms as I am no engineer or rocket scientist. I'm an idiot by comparison. However would it not be wiser, maybe or maybe not easier to have the craft dock with the space station and have the samples return via a crew lander where they have a higher chance of survival?
It would need a lot more Fuel, and thus make everything too heavy
SpaceX will return people from Mars in 2033 one week before NASA returns their sample from Mars.
When you said you had hair loss, I had to look up and said, "oh damn, you're bald". Mind blown 🤯
Simon should sue his sponser "I not only advertised this product but, unfortunately I used it.'